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    1. [KYJESSAM] Re: BRUSTER/BREWSTER
    2. hi Nat, Brewsters and Dunns are in my tree. Contact me at [email protected]

    07/01/2001 02:46:32
    1. [KYJESSAM] Re: Dunn
    2. Hi Marty, contact me at [email protected] Roslyn

    07/01/2001 02:41:04
    1. Re: [KYJESSAM] Jessamine Co.
    2. Jo Kester
    3. Hello Clyde I have been reading books by Allen Eckert, first about Blue Jacket and now about Tecumseh and your narrative was like reading the pages over again. His books are very gory but brings those time periods in TN, KY, OH & IN alive. It amazes me the distances the White Man and Indians traveled in those days. Thank you for sharing. Jo Morning All, We had a good meeting of the Jessamine County Historical Society last evening. I did a short presentation on the founding of Nicholasville. I would like to share my notes with you. I had maps, pictures, and plats that went along with this, that made it a wee bit more interesting. Nicholasville One could actually say, Nicholasville had its beginning in the summer of 1776. These were hard times for the early settlers in Kentucky. The year following would be called "The year of War, or the Bloody Year." The Indians were so troublesome that the settlers were confined to the forts, they could not tend their gardens, nor even could they hunt for food. But, the desire to own land, was a greater urge then their safety, and often even the welfare and safety of their own families. It was in the summer of 1776 the a small party left the safety of Fort Harrod, crossed the Kentucky River, and entered what is now Jessamine County. In the party was Jacob Sodowski (Sandusky) his brother Anthony, and two fellows by the name of Higgins. They set up camp on the east fork of Jessamine Creek, just a little south of where the town now stands. While out scouting the country side, Sodowski heard sound coming from the nearby woods and went to investigate. He was soon to discovered they were not alone in the wilderness. Leonard Helm and another party had been surveying, just north of them and were camped at a big spring were the town of Nicholasville is now located. Leonard Helm would be first to lay claim to the town site of Nicholasville. His claim would be made for him by his good friend, and commanding officer General George Rogers Clark. When the Commissioners opened their land office at Fort Logan in October 1779, Gen. Clark entered a 1400 acre claim for Helm under a Settlement and Preemption Rights. Leonard Helm was a very unique carature. He was a small man in statue, but had the courage of a lion. When the war broke out with Great Britain, Helm was consider much to old to go to war. But, he not only went to war, but became General Clark's top officer and right arm. Gen. Clark wrote in his diary about him, "Helm was a rugged fun-loving, rather old man, with a keen mind and great common sense, absolutely trusty and wonderfully fearless." Unfortunately Leonard Helm would never see the town of Nicholasville, nor would he profit from any of his land holdings in Jessamine County. He would die by the hands of the Indians in 1781. On General George Rogers Clark's Illinois campaign, they captured the fort at Vincennes. Capt. Leonard Helm was left in charge of the garrison with just a hand full of men under his command. On December 17, 1778, the British officer Henry Hamilton returned, with a force of 500 solders and Indians to retake Vincennes. Capt. Helm learning of the approach, of Hamilton's Army, hurriedly got a message off to Gen. Clark. He writes " My determination is to defend the garrison, though I have but 21 men but what has left me." He goes on to say, "You must think how I feel; not four men that I can really depend on, but am determined to act brave." And act brave Helm did. He rolled a little canon up to the fort gate, and refused to lower his flag and surrender the fort. Hamiltion was so impressed with the courage of Capt. Helm that he refused to fire on the fort. He chose instead to parlay for the surrender of the fort, as if Helm had been in charge of a great force many time the size. I would like to note here, that Frederick Zimmerman, the first county surveyor of Jessamine County, severed under Capt. Leonard Helm in the Illinois Campaign. It is likely that he was one of the 21 men that was with Helm at Vincennes. Achilles Helm the only son of Leonard Helm, make an exempt to recover his father's land in Jessamine County. But, was mostly unsuccessful in doing so. Helm's land had been lay off in three tracks of 500 acres in each. On November 10, 1784, Achilles lay claim to all three tracks, only to discover, others had filed claim to the same land, and some had filed much earlier then Achilles. Achilles did manage to secure a part of upper track. This was just a little north of the town and took in what is called the Orchard today. This track he sold to Fisher Rice. The remaining 250 acres of this track, had been claimed by Anthony Sandusky, and the heirs of Nathaniel Evans. This property was sold to Benjamin Blackford. The lower two 500 acre tracks became the property of Nathaniel Evans. He had filed claim to these two tracks on December 10, 1782, two year before Achilles Helm. At the death of Nathaniel Evans this property fell to his heirs, and into the hands of some of the most interesting people in early history of this state. We will begin with the lower track, the one just south of town in that is now called Edgewood. This was given to daughter Mary Evans. She was the wife of John Welch, Revolutionary Soldier. John Welch is buried on the back loop of Shannon Park. This cemetery has just been recently cleaned by the Jessamine County Historical and Genealogical Society. Part of this track was inherited by Nathaniel Evans daughter Hannah Evans. She was the wife of Capt. John "Wild Cat" McKinney. If you will recall, John McKinney was the first school teacher in Lexington. It was there that McKinney had his famous bout with a bobcat. John and Hannah moved from Bourbon County to Jessamine County, in about 1790, and settled south of Nicholasville at what we now call the Vineyard. They owned the property where the old Butler's Tavern stands today. It was here that their daughter Catherine was born, October 25, 1802. She would become the wife of George I. Brown. John Mckinney was born in South Carolina in 1756. He first came to Kentucky in 1780, and settled first at McConnell's Station. Back in Augusta County, VA., where he had migrated from, he had known and was well aquatinted with the Presbyterian minister Abram Rankin. McKinney had been in the Battle of Point Pleasant in 1774, and had been severely wounded, leaving him partially disabled. John McKinney became the first school teacher in Lexington in 1783. His little one room school house set just outside and to the east of the fort. A small plaque in the in the courthouse yard near Cheapside, marks the site today. It was here that John McKinney's name would be forever made famous. Not for his wounds he received in battle, or for fighting the Indians, but for his fight with a bobcat. The story of John McKinney and his fight with a bobcat was told and retold many time by the early settlers in Lexington. It was sometime altered by the story teller, but all agreed on certain facts. Early one morning John McKinney was in the schoolhouse alone, working at his desk when he looked up, and there in the doorway, stood the biggest bobcat he had ever laid eyes on. John looked at the big cat, and the cat glared back at John, both with dismay. John not knowing quite what to do hurled his ruler at the cats head. This was a bad mistake, the cat leaped on John, locking his teeth and claws into his rib cage, and the fight was on. John embraced the cat with his good arm. The other arm was nearly made useless from wounds he had received at the battle of Point Pleasant. John with all might hurled his body, and the cat's back into the edge of a nearby table. The cat screamed out with pain, and dug it's claws deeper into John chest, causing him to do the same. Two women standing near the fort heard the ungodly sound coming from the little schoolhouse, and ran to investigate. One of the woman peeked around the edge of the door, John saw her, and recognizing her to be a women he knew to be in bad health. and not wanting to alarm her, spoke as calmly as he could, given his situation and said; Don't be alarmed Madam; I have caught myself a wild cat, could you get some person to assist me in killing it? Help came, the cat was killed, and John after a bit recovered form his ordeal. For many years afterwards, when John was asked about his fight with the cat. Would reply, I had rather fight two Indians, then one bobcat. John McKinney and Hannah would later moved the Woodford County, were they both lived to be very old people. John died August 16, 1837 at the age of 82, and was buried in the Versailles Cemetery. Hannah died December 16, 1845, and was buried by the side of her husband. She was 85 years old when she died. George I. Brown, husband of Catherine McKinney, was born in was in North Carolina, December 11, 1784, and settled in Jessamine County in 1811. He build a log cabin on main street in Nicholasville, and here he operated a dry good store for several years. He later bought a large track of land south of town where he raised and manufactured hemp. This endeavor soon made Mr. Brown one of the richest men in the county. He build a fine home he called "Edgewood" that still stands today. He would represent Jessamine County in the State Legislature from 1829 to 1834, and another term in 1850. George I. Brown died March 14, 1859 and was buried in the Maple Grove Cemetery. His wife Catherine, the daughter of John "Wild Cat" McKinney, died October 2, 1867 and was buried near him. Jessamine County was at one time considered the capital of the world when is came to the growing and manufacturing of hemp. All this early success in the county can be traced back and credited back to George I. Brown. I also find it interesting that George I. Brown's first wife was Sarah Perry. She was born in Orange County, Va., September 30, 1789, and was a daughter of Lewis Perry. Her brother John Perry was the father of Oliver Perry, who own and lived in the house recently remodeled by the county, in the Camp Nelson project. The center track, which contained the old part of Nicholasville was left to daughter Rebecca Evans. She was the wife of William McConnell. This is the same William McConnell that was one of the founders of Lexington, and that McConnell's Station and McConnell's Spring receives their names. In August of 1799, William and wife Rebecca McConnell sold part of track that would contain the town of Nicholasville to Thomas Caldwell and Chesley Gates. A few day later Caldwell and Gates would turn part of the land over to the city fathers to establish the town of Nicholasville. Note: William McConnell had a brother Andrew, who was killed in the Battle of Blue Licks. This Andrew McConnell was the father of Sarah January, wife of Ephraim January. There was some discussion about establishing the town 2 miles south of Nicholasville at the present site of the Vineyard. Jonas Davenport, John McKinney and Jesse Stovall all living in the area were pressing very hard to have the county seat placed there. They had a good argument, the crossing there was probably much more used then the one farther to the north. It was here that the Boone's Station Road, Frankfort through Versailles Road, and Hickman Road all merged. On April 22, 1799 court was held in the home of Jonas Davenport to discuss the matter. It was at this time that the following court order was entered into the Order Book. "Ordered that the seat of justice for Jessamine County be permanently fixed on the lands of Thomas Caldwell and Chesley Gates on the Hickman Road." Not all were pleased with the decision. Three days later, on April 25, 1799, Jesse Stovall gave notice in the Kentucky Gazette, that he was going to ask the August section of the Jessamine County Court give him the permission to establish a new town on his land. On August 26, 1799, court was held at John Gate's Tavern, which was being used as a temporary courthouse. Gate's Tavern was located across the street from the present courthouse, on the southwest corner. The court up held it's rescent descision, and placed into law, that the town be established on the land of Caldwell and Gates. You would have thought the decision on where to locate the town, would have ended with the, passing of this law, but it didn't. Frederick Zimmerman and Fisher Rice wanted the town located to the north, on Rice's land. Samuel Woodson the County Clerk wanted the town on his land a little farther to the south, on his land. Thomas Caldwell, Chesley Gates and John Metcalf wanted the town to remain on it's chosen site. A heated debate would be carried on for several more years, before the latter finely won out. Across the street from Gate's Tavern, and on a lot to the south side of Hemphell's set Hightower and Payne's Tavern. It was here on a Wednesday afternoon, July 6, 1819 the President of the United States, James Monroe set down to dine, with the local dignitaries. At the end of his meal, he arose with a glass in hand, and said; "The Town of Nicholasville, may prosperity and happiness attend it's inhabitants." Clyde N. Bunch 2001 ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! 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    06/29/2001 09:37:00
    1. [KYJESSAM] Walters family
    2. I am looking for relatives/ancestors of Katherine Irene Walters, daughter of William and Betty Walters. She married Tom Beaumont. She was born in 1897. She is my father-in-law's mother and am doing research on his side of the family. Any help you could give will be appreciated. Barb

    06/29/2001 05:27:42
    1. [KYJESSAM] Jessamine Co.
    2. Morning All, We had a good meeting of the Jessamine County Historical Society last evening. I did a short presentation on the founding of Nicholasville. I would like to share my notes with you. I had maps, pictures, and plats that went along with this, that made it a wee bit more interesting. Nicholasville One could actually say, Nicholasville had its beginning in the summer of 1776. These were hard times for the early settlers in Kentucky. The year following would be called "The year of War, or the Bloody Year." The Indians were so troublesome that the settlers were confined to the forts, they could not tend their gardens, nor even could they hunt for food. But, the desire to own land, was a greater urge then their safety, and often even the welfare and safety of their own families. It was in the summer of 1776 the a small party left the safety of Fort Harrod, crossed the Kentucky River, and entered what is now Jessamine County. In the party was Jacob Sodowski (Sandusky) his brother Anthony, and two fellows by the name of Higgins. They set up camp on the east fork of Jessamine Creek, just a little south of where the town now stands. While out scouting the country side, Sodowski heard sound coming from the nearby woods and went to investigate. He was soon to discovered they were not alone in the wilderness. Leonard Helm and another party had been surveying, just north of them and were camped at a big spring were the town of Nicholasville is now located. Leonard Helm would be first to lay claim to the town site of Nicholasville. His claim would be made for him by his good friend, and commanding officer General George Rogers Clark. When the Commissioners opened their land office at Fort Logan in October 1779, Gen. Clark entered a 1400 acre claim for Helm under a Settlement and Preemption Rights. Leonard Helm was a very unique carature. He was a small man in statue, but had the courage of a lion. When the war broke out with Great Britain, Helm was consider much to old to go to war. But, he not only went to war, but became General Clark's top officer and right arm. Gen. Clark wrote in his diary about him, "Helm was a rugged fun-loving, rather old man, with a keen mind and great common sense, absolutely trusty and wonderfully fearless." Unfortunately Leonard Helm would never see the town of Nicholasville, nor would he profit from any of his land holdings in Jessamine County. He would die by the hands of the Indians in 1781. On General George Rogers Clark's Illinois campaign, they captured the fort at Vincennes. Capt. Leonard Helm was left in charge of the garrison with just a hand full of men under his command. On December 17, 1778, the British officer Henry Hamilton returned, with a force of 500 solders and Indians to retake Vincennes. Capt. Helm learning of the approach, of Hamilton's Army, hurriedly got a message off to Gen. Clark. He writes " My determination is to defend the garrison, though I have but 21 men but what has left me." He goes on to say, "You must think how I feel; not four men that I can really depend on, but am determined to act brave." And act brave Helm did. He rolled a little canon up to the fort gate, and refused to lower his flag and surrender the fort. Hamiltion was so impressed with the courage of Capt. Helm that he refused to fire on the fort. He chose instead to parlay for the surrender of the fort, as if Helm had been in charge of a great force many time the size. I would like to note here, that Frederick Zimmerman, the first county surveyor of Jessamine County, severed under Capt. Leonard Helm in the Illinois Campaign. It is likely that he was one of the 21 men that was with Helm at Vincennes. Achilles Helm the only son of Leonard Helm, make an exempt to recover his father's land in Jessamine County. But, was mostly unsuccessful in doing so. Helm's land had been lay off in three tracks of 500 acres in each. On November 10, 1784, Achilles lay claim to all three tracks, only to discover, others had filed claim to the same land, and some had filed much earlier then Achilles. Achilles did manage to secure a part of upper track. This was just a little north of the town and took in what is called the Orchard today. This track he sold to Fisher Rice. The remaining 250 acres of this track, had been claimed by Anthony Sandusky, and the heirs of Nathaniel Evans. This property was sold to Benjamin Blackford. The lower two 500 acre tracks became the property of Nathaniel Evans. He had filed claim to these two tracks on December 10, 1782, two year before Achilles Helm. At the death of Nathaniel Evans this property fell to his heirs, and into the hands of some of the most interesting people in early history of this state. We will begin with the lower track, the one just south of town in that is now called Edgewood. This was given to daughter Mary Evans. She was the wife of John Welch, Revolutionary Soldier. John Welch is buried on the back loop of Shannon Park. This cemetery has just been recently cleaned by the Jessamine County Historical and Genealogical Society. Part of this track was inherited by Nathaniel Evans daughter Hannah Evans. She was the wife of Capt. John "Wild Cat" McKinney. If you will recall, John McKinney was the first school teacher in Lexington. It was there that McKinney had his famous bout with a bobcat. John and Hannah moved from Bourbon County to Jessamine County, in about 1790, and settled south of Nicholasville at what we now call the Vineyard. They owned the property where the old Butler's Tavern stands today. It was here that their daughter Catherine was born, October 25, 1802. She would become the wife of George I. Brown. John Mckinney was born in South Carolina in 1756. He first came to Kentucky in 1780, and settled first at McConnell's Station. Back in Augusta County, VA., where he had migrated from, he had known and was well aquatinted with the Presbyterian minister Abram Rankin. McKinney had been in the Battle of Point Pleasant in 1774, and had been severely wounded, leaving him partially disabled. John McKinney became the first school teacher in Lexington in 1783. His little one room school house set just outside and to the east of the fort. A small plaque in the in the courthouse yard near Cheapside, marks the site today. It was here that John McKinney's name would be forever made famous. Not for his wounds he received in battle, or for fighting the Indians, but for his fight with a bobcat. The story of John McKinney and his fight with a bobcat was told and retold many time by the early settlers in Lexington. It was sometime altered by the story teller, but all agreed on certain facts. Early one morning John McKinney was in the schoolhouse alone, working at his desk when he looked up, and there in the doorway, stood the biggest bobcat he had ever laid eyes on. John looked at the big cat, and the cat glared back at John, both with dismay. John not knowing quite what to do hurled his ruler at the cats head. This was a bad mistake, the cat leaped on John, locking his teeth and claws into his rib cage, and the fight was on. John embraced the cat with his good arm. The other arm was nearly made useless from wounds he had received at the battle of Point Pleasant. John with all might hurled his body, and the cat's back into the edge of a nearby table. The cat screamed out with pain, and dug it's claws deeper into John chest, causing him to do the same. Two women standing near the fort heard the ungodly sound coming from the little schoolhouse, and ran to investigate. One of the woman peeked around the edge of the door, John saw her, and recognizing her to be a women he knew to be in bad health. and not wanting to alarm her, spoke as calmly as he could, given his situation and said; Don't be alarmed Madam; I have caught myself a wild cat, could you get some person to assist me in killing it? Help came, the cat was killed, and John after a bit recovered form his ordeal. For many years afterwards, when John was asked about his fight with the cat. Would reply, I had rather fight two Indians, then one bobcat. John McKinney and Hannah would later moved the Woodford County, were they both lived to be very old people. John died August 16, 1837 at the age of 82, and was buried in the Versailles Cemetery. Hannah died December 16, 1845, and was buried by the side of her husband. She was 85 years old when she died. George I. Brown, husband of Catherine McKinney, was born in was in North Carolina, December 11, 1784, and settled in Jessamine County in 1811. He build a log cabin on main street in Nicholasville, and here he operated a dry good store for several years. He later bought a large track of land south of town where he raised and manufactured hemp. This endeavor soon made Mr. Brown one of the richest men in the county. He build a fine home he called "Edgewood" that still stands today. He would represent Jessamine County in the State Legislature from 1829 to 1834, and another term in 1850. George I. Brown died March 14, 1859 and was buried in the Maple Grove Cemetery. His wife Catherine, the daughter of John "Wild Cat" McKinney, died October 2, 1867 and was buried near him. Jessamine County was at one time considered the capital of the world when is came to the growing and manufacturing of hemp. All this early success in the county can be traced back and credited back to George I. Brown. I also find it interesting that George I. Brown's first wife was Sarah Perry. She was born in Orange County, Va., September 30, 1789, and was a daughter of Lewis Perry. Her brother John Perry was the father of Oliver Perry, who own and lived in the house recently remodeled by the county, in the Camp Nelson project. The center track, which contained the old part of Nicholasville was left to daughter Rebecca Evans. She was the wife of William McConnell. This is the same William McConnell that was one of the founders of Lexington, and that McConnell's Station and McConnell's Spring receives their names. In August of 1799, William and wife Rebecca McConnell sold part of track that would contain the town of Nicholasville to Thomas Caldwell and Chesley Gates. A few day later Caldwell and Gates would turn part of the land over to the city fathers to establish the town of Nicholasville. Note: William McConnell had a brother Andrew, who was killed in the Battle of Blue Licks. This Andrew McConnell was the father of Sarah January, wife of Ephraim January. There was some discussion about establishing the town 2 miles south of Nicholasville at the present site of the Vineyard. Jonas Davenport, John McKinney and Jesse Stovall all living in the area were pressing very hard to have the county seat placed there. They had a good argument, the crossing there was probably much more used then the one farther to the north. It was here that the Boone's Station Road, Frankfort through Versailles Road, and Hickman Road all merged. On April 22, 1799 court was held in the home of Jonas Davenport to discuss the matter. It was at this time that the following court order was entered into the Order Book. "Ordered that the seat of justice for Jessamine County be permanently fixed on the lands of Thomas Caldwell and Chesley Gates on the Hickman Road." Not all were pleased with the decision. Three days later, on April 25, 1799, Jesse Stovall gave notice in the Kentucky Gazette, that he was going to ask the August section of the Jessamine County Court give him the permission to establish a new town on his land. On August 26, 1799, court was held at John Gate's Tavern, which was being used as a temporary courthouse. Gate's Tavern was located across the street from the present courthouse, on the southwest corner. The court up held it's rescent descision, and placed into law, that the town be established on the land of Caldwell and Gates. You would have thought the decision on where to locate the town, would have ended with the, passing of this law, but it didn't. Frederick Zimmerman and Fisher Rice wanted the town located to the north, on Rice's land. Samuel Woodson the County Clerk wanted the town on his land a little farther to the south, on his land. Thomas Caldwell, Chesley Gates and John Metcalf wanted the town to remain on it's chosen site. A heated debate would be carried on for several more years, before the latter finely won out. Across the street from Gate's Tavern, and on a lot to the south side of Hemphell's set Hightower and Payne's Tavern. It was here on a Wednesday afternoon, July 6, 1819 the President of the United States, James Monroe set down to dine, with the local dignitaries. At the end of his meal, he arose with a glass in hand, and said; "The Town of Nicholasville, may prosperity and happiness attend it's inhabitants." Clyde N. Bunch 2001 ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.

    06/29/2001 12:43:02
    1. [KYJESSAM] ALLEN HULETT
    2. I am still trying to find the parents of my gggrandfather ALLEN or ALLAN HULETT.He was suposedly born in JESSAMINE COUNTY KY in 1820.That's what it said in the family Bible anyway.Thank you,can you help?Linda

    06/28/2001 01:04:19
    1. Re: [KYJESSAM] Re: WILL DO CEMETARY LOOKUPS
    2. Dear List Members, Is there someone who will do a cemetery lookup ? I would much appreciate any Renfro you can find. Sincerely, Nancy Morris Brown

    06/28/2001 08:29:55
    1. [KYJESSAM] Fw: [BD-ADM] Fwd: Message board Solutions & More
    2. Jim Houpe
    3. New user friendly board system in the works please hold your queries and obits deeds etc. till this new system is in place Thanks, Jim ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Dye" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, June 25, 2001 7:51 PM Subject: [BD-ADM] Fwd: Message board Solutions & More > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: <[email protected]> > > To: <[email protected]> > > Sent: Monday, June 25, 2001 3:57 PM > > Subject: [USGENWEB-ALL-L] Message board Solutions & More > > > > > This may be copied and placed anywhere and is free for all to view including > > > but not limited to web pages, newspapers, mail lists, snail mail, and any > > > form of print distribution. > > > > > > A group of former GenConnect message board administrators, and USGenWeb > > > county coordinators are getting together to offer a new service. 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    06/28/2001 07:40:08
    1. [KYJESSAM] Re: ANY INFO GROVER CLEVELAND LUNSFORD
    2. HI ROSLYN, MY GRANDMOTHER'S NAME WAS CORNELIA LUNSFORD AND ONE OF HER BROTHERS' NAMES IS GROVER CLEVELAND LUNSFORD AND ONE WAS NAMED NELSON LUNSFORD. HER PARENTS WERE GEORGE AND RUTH (BARNS) LUNSFORD. I AM NOT SURE OF THE REST OF THE FAMILY'S NAMES BECAUSE I BELIEVE THERE WERE TEN KIDS. I WOULD APPRECIATE ANY HELP IF YOU CAN WITH THIS. I AM A BEGINNER AT THIS, SO PLEASE BEAR WITH ME. THANK YOU KARLA SANGES [email protected]

    06/27/2001 03:17:18
    1. [KYJESSAM] BURTON, HOUSE, COBB, FAIN, STINNETT families.
    2. Nancy Perry
    3. I just want to state I do not like this format. I always enjoyed reading all the recent Jess. Co. Posts. I hope we can always remember to include the family name in the subject line. I am searching for info on the BURTON, HOUSE, COBB, FAIN, STINNETT families. Nancy House Perry __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/

    06/27/2001 08:38:14
    1. [KYJESSAM] BURTON, HOUSE, COBB, FAIN, STINNETT families.
    2. Nancy Perry
    3. I just want to state I do not like this format. I always enjoyed reading all the recent Jess. Co. Posts. I hope we can always remember to include the family name in the subject line. I am searching for info on the BURTON, HOUSE, COBB, FAIN, STINNETT families. Nancy House Perry ===== Visit Perry Research http://www.geocities.com/perryresearch1/PerryResearch.html __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/

    06/27/2001 08:37:23
    1. [KYJESSAM] Re: Kines of Jessamine County
    2. I have just become aware of the connection of the Kines family to the Beaumonts of Jessamine County. Cassie Jane Kines married Solomon Fitzgerald who had a daughter Elizabeth who married Thomas Beaumont who is the earliest Beaumont I have a record for. Would like to fill out Cassie's family tree and I do have a bit of information on her parents, brothers and sisters. Barb Shaw

    06/26/2001 07:30:55
  1. 06/24/2001 02:23:27
    1. [KYJESSAM] Carpenter + Walker
    2. Ellen Almira Carpenter (b: abt 1809 in TN) marr James Walker bef 1838 (TN? KY?). She died aft 1860. James was b: abt 1797 in KY, and died bef 1860 in Scotland County, Missouri. Please respond to: [email protected] to exchange info.

    06/24/2001 06:51:36
    1. [KYJESSAM] Re: WILL DO CEMETARY LOOKUPS
    2. Is your research onlly in Kentucky. My ggf was from Ohio. Have minimal info. b: abt 1843 near Amesville, Athens Co., Ohio wife: Adaline M. Fulton, one son was Harry Chockley, other children unknown Any info would be appreciated Thank You [email protected] Linda Bundy

    06/24/2001 06:45:27
    1. [KYJESSAM] New message board system
    2. Jim Houpe
    3. I don't know how many of you know it but sometime ago Ancestry.com bought out rootsweb. Rootsweb supplies webspace for alot of the state and county websites they also house the kyjessam mail list along with the genconnect message boards. As you know we had several message boards Queries,bible records,bios,deeds,pensions,obits,and wills. The genconnect boards basically does not exist now they have been replaced by ancestry. The boards have been merged into one board. I was taking care of all the boards excepts the obits which Sheila Ramos was taking care of. When the merged the boards the person that was taking care of thr queries board appointed administrator which fell to me. I had to create an account to access these boards I do not knoe if you will have to create an account with ancestry in order to view and post to the new message alot of people on the state and national mailing list are very unhappy with what has happened the fear is that the researchers will become unhappy and frustrated with this new system. I hpe you do not have any problems with the new message system just thought you should know I have not made the changes on the website yet click on the queries graphic it will either take you to the message board or to a page to register for an account. Thanks, Jim

    06/23/2001 02:09:03
    1. [KYJESSAM] Early Presbyterians in Jessamine
    2. Alice Hills
    3. Few researchers know that the part of the Rev. John Dabney Shane papers that were not bought by Lyman Draper for the Wisconsin Historical Society went to the Presbyterian Historical Society in Philadelphia. These have been microfilmed and can be ordered through the LDS Family History Centers or found at the Allen County Library. The 28th reel--498641--contains in Vol 5 the papers of the Rev. James Crawford who was minister of the Walnut Hill Church in Fayette County 1787-1797. There are lists of members in his Jessamine congregation (1788-1794). The entire index is published as "The Shane Manuscript Collection: A Genealogical Guide to the Kentucky and Ohio Papers", by William K. Hall, Frontier Press, 1990. Alice Hills Lexington

    06/22/2001 04:22:28
    1. [KYJESSAM] early churches
    2. Jean Brandt
    3. I believe I have traced one of my ancestors to Jessamine Co. ca. 1810 & perhaps before. Now I'm wondering if he belonged to a church & if there are any records. Does anyone know if any churches existed in Jessamine Co. ca. 1810 & before, & if so, where the records might be located? I would appreciate any information. Thanks. Jean

    06/22/2001 01:51:38
    1. [KYJESSAM] Dr. George Edward Muir - Lexington, KY 1900-1920
    2. Melinda Pickering
    3. -----Original Message----- From: Melinda Pickering Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2001 7:25 AM To: 'Christine' Subject: RE: [KYFAYETT] City Directories 1900-1920 Good Morning Christine, Thank you so much for looking all these up. Unfortunately, my g-grandfather isn't in the list. He may have been listed as just Dr. Edward Muir, dropping the George. I'm beginning to think that they didn't actually live in Lexington, but rather outside, maybe toward Paris where he grew up or in the NE Jessamine County where his parents were married. But, I do believe that his practice was in Fayette County. Do you have access to Jessamine or Bourbon County directories as well? Thanks again, Melinda -----Original Message----- From: Christine [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2001 4:27 PM To: Melinda Pickering Subject: Re: [KYFAYETT] City Directories 1900-1920 Hi Melinda I have mixed results for you. I looked through Lexington city directories for 1902-03, 1904-05, 1911, 1914, 1916, 1919, and 1923. I did not find a George Edward Muir, but there was a George W Muir who was a fire chief & an inspector for the fire department. I copied out the names of all the Muirs in all the years I mentioned, and here they are: 1902-03 George W (Mary W) chief fire dept 300 (145) S. Limestone (I *think* the streets may have been renumbered, hence the two addresses, but that is ONLY my guess) G Wallace Henry (Emma L) Kerby (wid Elifius S) Sallie W (wid Thomas B) Stewart (also a firefigher) Wilgus 1904-05 Emma (wid Henry) George W (Mary E) 135 E Maxwell K Wallace (boards at 135 E Maxwell) John W Kirby (wid Eliphalet) Sallie W (wid Thomsa [sic] B) Wallace (boards at 135 E Maxwell) 1911 George W (Mary C) capt Woodland House Co No 5 135 E Maxwell John (Nellie) J Harry J Vol (Kate L) Kirby (wid E S) Sena M Steuart R (Margaret R) Wallace (Sunshine L) Wm W (Frances P) 1914 George W (Mary C) Kirby (wid Eliphlate) Steuart R (Margaret) Wallace (Sunshine L) Wm W (Frances P) 1916 George W (Mary E) M Kirby (wid Eliphlate) Stuart R (Margaret) Wallace (Sunshine L) (Wallace has his address in bold face in several years, he was an attorney) Wm W (Frances P) 1919 George W (Mary E) city fire insp Stuart Wallace Wm W 1923 George W (Mary) Sallie Pryor (wid John) S R William W That's all I noted down. I hope this helps some--and please let me know if you need more details. Do you think this George is the same George? Thanks and good luck, Christine in Lexington Melinda Pickering wrote: > > Is there someone who has access to the City Directory for Lexington > 1900-1920? I need the address for Dr. George Edward Muir, my > great-grandfather. I have a co-worker traveling there next week and would > like him to take a picture of the house if it is still standing. Your help > is greatly appreciated. > > Thank you ever so much, > > Melinda > > ==== KYFAYETT Mailing List ==== > Remember, just because you found it online doesn't > mean it's accurate! Check and recheck the details! > > ============================== > Create a FREE family website at MyFamily.com! > http://www.myfamily.com/banner.asp?ID=RWLIST2

    06/20/2001 08:55:01
    1. [KYJESSAM] Census & County Formation Maps
    2. These are really good sites for Census avalibility maps http://www.segenealogy.com/sgo03.htm http://www.segenealogy.com/sgo03_ky.htm http://www.segenealogy.com/kentucky/ky_censusmap.htm And County Formation Maps http://www.segenealogy.com/kentucky/ky_map.htm Brent

    06/18/2001 05:00:03