i have a lot of luck finding stuff doing searches at www.google.com, be sure to put the name in quote marks, like "John Smith" and then ad other info such as the county, state, year etc. if you don't get many returns then start taking things out one at a time and re-do the search. i realize the below may not be KY but did find this with a google search for "Ida Setzer" , it brought 4 returns, one that was no longer available but unless you read German i don't think of value anyway! http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~thstiger/RECORDS3.htm 368. Claude JAYNE, son of Corey and Myrtle (ARNTS) Jayne, age 24y, res. Meshoppen, and Miss Esther REMALY, dau. of Ervin and Ida (SETZER) Remaly, age 18, res. Bethlehem, were married on 3 DEC 1926 in Meshoppen, PA. (V.18, P.105, L.#4537) http://www.rootsweb.com/~nccatawb/family/setzer.txt this is descendants of jacob setzer and might be of interest and there is an ida there b 1878 http://www.shelbystar.com/obits2001/_disc4/00000059.htm in the obit of Floyd Byers who died Wednesday, Sept. 26, 2001 it contains the following: He is survived by a daughter and a son-in-law, Camilla Byers and Arthur Young; a son, Jack Byers of Cherryville; a brother, Hood Byers, 100, of Washington, D.C.; a sister, John Ida Setzer Thoms of Kings Mountain; nine grandchildren, Jacqueline Byers McDaniel, Terry Cunningham, Floyd Gene Bridges, Pattie Porter, Dennis, Regina Young Petteway, Madeline Young Howell, Jacqueline Denise Smith, Lillian Young Friday and Adrienne Young George; 15 great-grandchildren; and seven great-great grandchildren. karen in CA