In a message dated 2/21/2005 7:21:04 P.M. Central Standard Time, [email protected] writes: I was raised in Louisville around Atwood, Wainwright, Lilly, Bradley & Eastern Parkway. The easiest landmark which is not there anymore was St. Joseph Infirmary. This neighborhood was also known as "RAG HILL" because so many of its residents were extremely poor. Also around this area was Swiss Park, where I looked to go as a kid. Even though I have moved to another place, I still drive around the old neighborhood just to bring back memories. Wow, just reading this brought back memories. My youngest daughter was born at St. Joseph's infirmary. I went to Manual with kids who lived on the streets you mentioned. I lived closer to Manual so they tore down my old neighborhood during Urban Renewal progress to make UL more parking spaces. Can you imagine tearing down those old beautiful homes in those tree lined courts to make parking spaces? Pam