Thanks Debbie and Teddy for responding back. Yes that is the correct family. Also in the 1850 Census is George Sr.'s brother William (b. 1/1/1803 d. 4/23/1864). I am trying to go one generation up looking for George and William's parents in Germany. I knew Catherine died in 1857 shortly after remarrying her second husband in 1854. We always assumed that George had died, thus the reason the three ended up in an orphanage and the reason why Catherine remarried. However, I just found info stating George died in 12/16/1891 (b. 1801). (but no sign of him in Census records after 1850 ) With this newly found actual death date, I though I'd renew my attempt to find the parents if I could now locate an obituary or death certificate for him. --- Debbie <[email protected]> wrote: > Bob, > In the 1850 census, I find your George NOLD with wife Catherine and > three > children, George, Frank and Mary. In 1860, all three children are in > St. > Joseph's Orpanage. Did both parents die prior to 1860? You listed > one of > the NOLD brothers died in 1864? > Debbie > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Bob" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2005 1:29 PM > Subject: Re: [KYJEFFER] Info On Deaths Before 1911 > > > > Thanks for offering Teddy but the surnames won't help (It's NOLD by > the > > way). They both came to the US in the 1840's without their parents > - > > mom and dad remained in Germany. (no sign of them in LDS' > familysearch > > either). Someone else suggested that church records may have some > > info. I know the date and place for one of them - George Nold m. > > Katherine Weadman 11/24/1845 at St. Paul's Evang. I hadn't thought > > about church records but have absolutely no idea how to even go > about > > that. Can anyone guide me? (I live in Florida but could probably > > recruit a family member). > > > > Thanks > > Bob > > > > --- [email protected] wrote: > > > > > What is the Surname's you are looking for? I can look for them in > the > > > census records if the names is not too common. > > > > > > Jefferson Co does have microfilm that has the births marriages > and > > > deaths for 1852, 1854-1859 then 1900-1906 then 1908 and 1909 it > then > > > says available Births from 1898 to 1910. Has someone made a book > for > > > this? this microfilm is sold at the KY Archives in Frankfort. The > > > last I heard it was $18.00 for the microfilm. You just have to be > > > close to a microfilm reader. > > > > > > -- > > > Teddy > > > List Mom for the Grayson Co Ky > > > List, Brady, Vertrees, Ford, > > > Fulkerson,and Commonwealth > > > http://www.kygenweb.net/pd-res/deford.html > > > > > > -------------- Original message -------------- > > > > > > > I'm searching for the parents names of two brothers that > immigrated > > > to > > > > Louisville. I have the brothers' death dates (one in 1864 and > one > > > in > > > > 1891) and thought if I found an obit or death cert for one of > these > > > > > > > guys I may be able to find their parents. From what I've > learned, > > > the > > > > process for death certs is pretty easy for deaths from 1911-on, > but > > > > > > > what about prior to that. Are they even available? I've seen > some > > > > folk advertising their services to look up up obits, but is it > > > likely > > > > they would find them if that old? It would probably be hit or > miss > > > if > > > > the info I need is even in the obit. Educate me! (I'm a newbie) > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > Bob > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________ > > > > Do you Yahoo!? > > > > Yahoo! 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Where was the actual death date obtained? Do you know what cemetery he is buried in? Debbie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2005 2:20 PM Subject: Re: [KYJEFFER] Info On Deaths Before 1911 > Thanks Debbie and Teddy for responding back. Yes that is the correct > family. Also in the 1850 Census is George Sr.'s brother William (b. > 1/1/1803 d. 4/23/1864). I am trying to go one generation up looking > for George and William's parents in Germany. I knew Catherine died in > 1857 shortly after remarrying her second husband in 1854. We always > assumed that George had died, thus the reason the three ended up in an > orphanage and the reason why Catherine remarried. However, I just > found info stating George died in 12/16/1891 (b. 1801). (but no sign > of him in Census records after 1850 ) With this newly found actual > death date, I though I'd renew my attempt to find the parents if I > could now locate an obituary or death certificate for him. > > --- Debbie <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Bob, > > In the 1850 census, I find your George NOLD with wife Catherine and > > three > > children, George, Frank and Mary. In 1860, all three children are in > > St. > > Joseph's Orpanage. Did both parents die prior to 1860? You listed > > one of > > the NOLD brothers died in 1864? > > Debbie > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Bob" <[email protected]> > > To: <[email protected]> > > Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2005 1:29 PM > > Subject: Re: [KYJEFFER] Info On Deaths Before 1911 > > > > > > > Thanks for offering Teddy but the surnames won't help (It's NOLD by > > the > > > way). They both came to the US in the 1840's without their parents > > - > > > mom and dad remained in Germany. (no sign of them in LDS' > > familysearch > > > either). Someone else suggested that church records may have some > > > info. I know the date and place for one of them - George Nold m. > > > Katherine Weadman 11/24/1845 at St. Paul's Evang. I hadn't thought > > > about church records but have absolutely no idea how to even go > > about > > > that. Can anyone guide me? (I live in Florida but could probably > > > recruit a family member). > > > > > > Thanks > > > Bob > > > > > > --- [email protected] wrote: > > > > > > > What is the Surname's you are looking for? I can look for them in > > the > > > > census records if the names is not too common. > > > > > > > > Jefferson Co does have microfilm that has the births marriages > > and > > > > deaths for 1852, 1854-1859 then 1900-1906 then 1908 and 1909 it > > then > > > > says available Births from 1898 to 1910. Has someone made a book > > for > > > > this? this microfilm is sold at the KY Archives in Frankfort. The > > > > last I heard it was $18.00 for the microfilm. You just have to be > > > > close to a microfilm reader. > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Teddy > > > > List Mom for the Grayson Co Ky > > > > List, Brady, Vertrees, Ford, > > > > Fulkerson,and Commonwealth > > > > http://www.kygenweb.net/pd-res/deford.html > > > > > > > > -------------- Original message -------------- > > > > > > > > > I'm searching for the parents names of two brothers that > > immigrated > > > > to > > > > > Louisville. I have the brothers' death dates (one in 1864 and > > one > > > > in > > > > > 1891) and thought if I found an obit or death cert for one of > > these > > > > > > > > > guys I may be able to find their parents. From what I've > > learned, > > > > the > > > > > process for death certs is pretty easy for deaths from 1911-on, > > but > > > > > > > > > what about prior to that. Are they even available? I've seen > > some > > > > > folk advertising their services to look up up obits, but is it > > > > likely > > > > > they would find them if that old? It would probably be hit or > > miss > > > > if > > > > > the info I need is even in the obit. Educate me! (I'm a newbie) > > > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > Bob > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________ > > > > > Do you Yahoo!? > > > > > Yahoo! Mail - Find what you need with new enhanced search. > > > > > http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== KYJEFFER Mailing List ==== > > > > > Search the Jefferson List Archives: > > > > > > > > > > > http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl?list=KYJEFFER > > > > > > > > > > or the Jefferson threaded archives: > > > > > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/KYJEFFER > > > > > > > > > > ============================== > > > > > View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your > > ancestors, > > > > find > > > > > marriage announcements and more. Learn more: > > > > > http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== KYJEFFER Mailing List ==== > > > > Submit your information to the Metro Louisville-Jefferson County > > KY > > > > History and Genealogy project. See > > > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~kyjeffer/ for information on how to > > submit. > > > > > > > > ============================== > > > > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added > > in > > > > the > > > > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. 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hi guys i found some info on these 2 george died before 1854,katherine died on 8-4-1857 in New Albany,clark co. Ind. he an katherine had 3 kids catherine josephine md . a barrett john george died unk katherine md on 6-12-1854 in Louisville,ky. to Johannes mattern, b-3-17-1827 in bohl,pfalz,bavaria they had 3 issue katherine died in new albany, ind. in 1857, she was thrown from there wagon when the horse ran unexpectly, killing her an unborn child. this is from j.b. [email protected] ged com on rootsweb -world connect- good luck bill n lois from florida >From: Bob <[email protected]> >Reply-To: [email protected] >To: [email protected] >Subject: Re: [KYJEFFER] Info On Deaths Before 1911 >Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2005 11:20:46 -0800 (PST) > >Thanks Debbie and Teddy for responding back. Yes that is the correct >family. Also in the 1850 Census is George Sr.'s brother William (b. >1/1/1803 d. 4/23/1864). I am trying to go one generation up looking >for George and William's parents in Germany. I knew Catherine died in >1857 shortly after remarrying her second husband in 1854. We always >assumed that George had died, thus the reason the three ended up in an >orphanage and the reason why Catherine remarried. However, I just >found info stating George died in 12/16/1891 (b. 1801). (but no sign >of him in Census records after 1850 ) With this newly found actual >death date, I though I'd renew my attempt to find the parents if I >could now locate an obituary or death certificate for him. > >--- Debbie <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Bob, > > In the 1850 census, I find your George NOLD with wife Catherine and > > three > > children, George, Frank and Mary. In 1860, all three children are in > > St. > > Joseph's Orpanage. Did both parents die prior to 1860? You listed > > one of > > the NOLD brothers died in 1864? > > Debbie > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Bob" <[email protected]> > > To: <[email protected]> > > Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2005 1:29 PM > > Subject: Re: [KYJEFFER] Info On Deaths Before 1911 > > > > > > > Thanks for offering Teddy but the surnames won't help (It's NOLD by > > the > > > way). They both came to the US in the 1840's without their parents > > - > > > mom and dad remained in Germany. (no sign of them in LDS' > > familysearch > > > either). Someone else suggested that church records may have some > > > info. I know the date and place for one of them - George Nold m. > > > Katherine Weadman 11/24/1845 at St. Paul's Evang. I hadn't thought > > > about church records but have absolutely no idea how to even go > > about > > > that. Can anyone guide me? (I live in Florida but could probably > > > recruit a family member). > > > > > > Thanks > > > Bob > > > > > > --- [email protected] wrote: > > > > > > > What is the Surname's you are looking for? I can look for them in > > the > > > > census records if the names is not too common. > > > > > > > > Jefferson Co does have microfilm that has the births marriages > > and > > > > deaths for 1852, 1854-1859 then 1900-1906 then 1908 and 1909 it > > then > > > > says available Births from 1898 to 1910. Has someone made a book > > for > > > > this? this microfilm is sold at the KY Archives in Frankfort. The > > > > last I heard it was $18.00 for the microfilm. You just have to be > > > > close to a microfilm reader. > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Teddy > > > > List Mom for the Grayson Co Ky > > > > List, Brady, Vertrees, Ford, > > > > Fulkerson,and Commonwealth > > > > http://www.kygenweb.net/pd-res/deford.html > > > > > > > > -------------- Original message -------------- > > > > > > > > > I'm searching for the parents names of two brothers that > > immigrated > > > > to > > > > > Louisville. I have the brothers' death dates (one in 1864 and > > one > > > > in > > > > > 1891) and thought if I found an obit or death cert for one of > > these > > > > > > > > > guys I may be able to find their parents. From what I've > > learned, > > > > the > > > > > process for death certs is pretty easy for deaths from 1911-on, > > but > > > > > > > > > what about prior to that. Are they even available? I've seen > > some > > > > > folk advertising their services to look up up obits, but is it > > > > likely > > > > > they would find them if that old? It would probably be hit or > > miss > > > > if > > > > > the info I need is even in the obit. Educate me! (I'm a newbie) > > > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > Bob > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________ > > > > > Do you Yahoo!? > > > > > Yahoo! Mail - Find what you need with new enhanced search. > > > > > http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== KYJEFFER Mailing List ==== > > > > > Search the Jefferson List Archives: > > > > > > > > > > > http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl?list=KYJEFFER > > > > > > > > > > or the Jefferson threaded archives: > > > > > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/KYJEFFER > > > > > > > > > > ============================== > > > > > View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your > > ancestors, > > > > find > > > > > marriage announcements and more. Learn more: > > > > > http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== KYJEFFER Mailing List ==== > > > > Submit your information to the Metro Louisville-Jefferson County > > KY > > > > History and Genealogy project. See > > > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~kyjeffer/ for information on how to > > submit. > > > > > > > > ============================== > > > > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added > > in > > > > the > > > > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn > > more: > > > > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________ > > > Do you Yahoo!? > > > All your favorites on one personal page - Try My Yahoo! > > > http://my.yahoo.com > > > > > > > > > ==== KYJEFFER Mailing List ==== > > > The Jefferson County, KY History and Genealogy page is part of the > > KyGenWeb and USGenWeb, and are not-for-profit Projects. 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