My Irish relatives were not Catholic...One of the families from the Williams side who came to Louisville was the Anderson family. Have you checked the records for the County on the internet? Stay away from paying sites, unless you have Ancestry.com already. There are a number of websites for different areas of Ireland. It may take a while, but find the Parish your family was in. Sometimes the Parishes crossed civil lines...Some of Armagh goes into Antrim, etc. I found the Protestant records for Tyholland/Tyhallan which were quite old on the internet years ago. Think of all the combinations you can to do searches...Look for photos and it may lead you to a clue, look for churches and it may give you cemeteries. These are from a search for Park but there is enough general information that you can get for free on this that you shouldn't have to hire someone. http://www.ireland.progenealogists.com/archives.htm http://www.proni.gov.uk/freeholders/intro.asp http://www.proni.gov.uk/freeholders/intro.asp http://www.ireland.progenealogists.com/heritagecenters.htm http://www.ireland.progenealogists.com/visitireland.htm http://www.ireland.progenealogists.com/ I have another link somewhere in my information that covers a great many counties in Ireland. Remember, too, that your family may have originally been Scotch, English or Welsh. Also check all the Irish Message Boards and Mailing Lists. Pat Morano Check: http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/frameset_search.asp ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rita Mackin Fox" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2005 10:58 PM Subject: RE: [KYJEFFER] Irish ancestors > I, too, have Irish ancestors. Most of mine settled in > Marion-Nelson-Washington counties, but several migrated on to Louisville, > particularly MACKIN and JOYCE families. > > The Mackins attended St. Cecilia's (Mackin Gym was named for Fr. William > P. > Mackin, b. in Ireland late 1840s, president of St. Joseph's College for > four > years; died while pastor of St. Cecilia's in 1893). He was the youngest > brother of my 2nd great-grandfather, Michael C. Mackin. > > And the Joyces attended St. Louis Bertrand. My third-great-grandmother, > Bridget Costello Mackin, went to live with her daughter, Adelia Mackin > Joyce, in her later years and also went there. > > My Mackins hailed from the vicinity of Kilmaine, in the southern part of > Co. > Mayo. Thomas Joyce, who married Adelia, may have been from Mayo or Co. > Galway. Bridget Costello Mackin was from the area of Tuam, eastern Co. > Galway. Tuam and Kilmaine are only about 20 miles apart. > > I encourage you to look at the Irish Catholic publications of the time in > Louisville. (I forget the newspaper's name, but the microfilm is at the > Louisville Free Public Library at 4th and York in the Kentucky Room.) I > found out the locations of my Mackin-Costello roots in an 1890 obituary > that > was published for Bridget. Her son, Fr. Mackin, was a Louisville pastor at > that time, which is probably why she had such a detailed obituary. (I'm > guessing he wrote it for her.) > > I recently invested $100 in a records search in the Heritage Center in > South > Co. Mayo, but didn't get much info, even knowing the town the Mackins came > from. Most is speculation because there just weren't any church or civil > records from before 1851 or so and mine seemed to have migrated about > 1850. > Still, they tried their best and guessed at where the Mackins might have > lived based on new Mackins coming on the voter and property-owner rolls > about the time mine left. (To vote, people had to own at least 10 acres of > land, I think they said. Until my relatives left, they suppose these other > men did not have enough property to meet that minimum.) > > I'm going to visit the area (and Ireland) for the first time this year, > which is very exciting. Not sure what this approximate 200-acre plot--on a > part of which my Mackins may have lived--is nowadays, but I've seen photos > of Kilmaine and it's very picturesque and colorful. > > I hope some of this might provide clues, but there was such a mass exodus > from Ireland during the Great Famine and they came from every nook and > cranny, so it might mean nothing at all. > > I will say that it took me 20 years to find the above-mentioned obituary, > so > never give up! > > Good luck! > > Rita Mackin Fox > [email protected] > > -----Original Message----- > From: Debbie [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2005 10:16 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: [KYJEFFER] Irish ancestors > > > I recently got wrapped up in my Irish ancestors again. I had hit so many > brick walls, I put them aside for awhile. Last week I happened upon some > more info, and its prompted me to jump in on that line again. Maybe, its > because St. Patrick's Day is on its way :-) > > Does anyone know if there is any type of Irish organization locally? I'm > in > the process of trying to gather some information from the churches. My > Irish ancestors left no clue as to where in Ireland they hailed from. > Anyone with any suggestions, who've worked locally on their Irish line > would > be helpful! > Thanks, > Debbie > Researching: FLYNN, McGOVERN, COPPINGER > > > ==== KYJEFFER Mailing List ==== > Search the Jefferson List Archives: > http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl?list=KYJEFFER > > or the Jefferson threaded archives: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/KYJEFFER > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx >

THANK YOU Pat! ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2005 4:11 AM Subject: Re: [KYJEFFER] Irish ancestors > My Irish relatives were not Catholic...One of the families from the Williams > side who came to Louisville was the Anderson family. Have you checked the > records for the County on the internet? Stay away from paying sites, unless > you have Ancestry.com already. There are a number of websites for different > areas of Ireland. It may take a while, but find the Parish your family was > in. Sometimes the Parishes crossed civil lines...Some of Armagh goes into > Antrim, etc. I found the Protestant records for Tyholland/Tyhallan which > were quite old on the internet years ago. Think of all the combinations you > can to do searches...Look for photos and it may lead you to a clue, look for > churches and it may give you cemeteries. > > These are from a search for Park but there is enough general information > that you can get for free on this that you shouldn't have to hire someone. > > http://www.ireland.progenealogists.com/archives.htm > > http://www.proni.gov.uk/freeholders/intro.asp > > http://www.proni.gov.uk/freeholders/intro.asp > > http://www.ireland.progenealogists.com/heritagecenters.htm > > http://www.ireland.progenealogists.com/visitireland.htm > > http://www.ireland.progenealogists.com/ > > > > I have another link somewhere in my information that covers a great many > counties in Ireland. Remember, too, that your family may have originally > been Scotch, English or Welsh. Also check all the Irish Message Boards and > Mailing Lists. Pat Morano > > Check: > > http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/frameset_search.asp > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Rita Mackin Fox" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2005 10:58 PM > Subject: RE: [KYJEFFER] Irish ancestors > > > > I, too, have Irish ancestors. Most of mine settled in > > Marion-Nelson-Washington counties, but several migrated on to Louisville, > > particularly MACKIN and JOYCE families. > > > > The Mackins attended St. Cecilia's (Mackin Gym was named for Fr. William > > P. > > Mackin, b. in Ireland late 1840s, president of St. Joseph's College for > > four > > years; died while pastor of St. Cecilia's in 1893). He was the youngest > > brother of my 2nd great-grandfather, Michael C. Mackin. > > > > And the Joyces attended St. Louis Bertrand. My third-great-grandmother, > > Bridget Costello Mackin, went to live with her daughter, Adelia Mackin > > Joyce, in her later years and also went there. > > > > My Mackins hailed from the vicinity of Kilmaine, in the southern part of > > Co. > > Mayo. Thomas Joyce, who married Adelia, may have been from Mayo or Co. > > Galway. Bridget Costello Mackin was from the area of Tuam, eastern Co. > > Galway. Tuam and Kilmaine are only about 20 miles apart. > > > > I encourage you to look at the Irish Catholic publications of the time in > > Louisville. (I forget the newspaper's name, but the microfilm is at the > > Louisville Free Public Library at 4th and York in the Kentucky Room.) I > > found out the locations of my Mackin-Costello roots in an 1890 obituary > > that > > was published for Bridget. Her son, Fr. Mackin, was a Louisville pastor at > > that time, which is probably why she had such a detailed obituary. (I'm > > guessing he wrote it for her.) > > > > I recently invested $100 in a records search in the Heritage Center in > > South > > Co. Mayo, but didn't get much info, even knowing the town the Mackins came > > from. Most is speculation because there just weren't any church or civil > > records from before 1851 or so and mine seemed to have migrated about > > 1850. > > Still, they tried their best and guessed at where the Mackins might have > > lived based on new Mackins coming on the voter and property-owner rolls > > about the time mine left. (To vote, people had to own at least 10 acres of > > land, I think they said. Until my relatives left, they suppose these other > > men did not have enough property to meet that minimum.) > > > > I'm going to visit the area (and Ireland) for the first time this year, > > which is very exciting. Not sure what this approximate 200-acre plot--on a > > part of which my Mackins may have lived--is nowadays, but I've seen photos > > of Kilmaine and it's very picturesque and colorful. > > > > I hope some of this might provide clues, but there was such a mass exodus > > from Ireland during the Great Famine and they came from every nook and > > cranny, so it might mean nothing at all. > > > > I will say that it took me 20 years to find the above-mentioned obituary, > > so > > never give up! > > > > Good luck! > > > > Rita Mackin Fox > > [email protected] > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Debbie [mailto:[email protected]] > > Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2005 10:16 PM > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: [KYJEFFER] Irish ancestors > > > > > > I recently got wrapped up in my Irish ancestors again. I had hit so many > > brick walls, I put them aside for awhile. Last week I happened upon some > > more info, and its prompted me to jump in on that line again. Maybe, its > > because St. Patrick's Day is on its way :-) > > > > Does anyone know if there is any type of Irish organization locally? I'm > > in > > the process of trying to gather some information from the churches. My > > Irish ancestors left no clue as to where in Ireland they hailed from. > > Anyone with any suggestions, who've worked locally on their Irish line > > would > > be helpful! > > Thanks, > > Debbie > > Researching: FLYNN, McGOVERN, COPPINGER > > > > > > ==== KYJEFFER Mailing List ==== > > Search the Jefferson List Archives: > > http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl?list=KYJEFFER > > > > or the Jefferson threaded archives: > > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/KYJEFFER > > > > ============================== > > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. 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