Your email enlightened me regarding the changes to names. My paternal grandparents are German and I am having a difficult time finding where they entered the U.S. or where they came from in Germany. Now I have another lead to following. Thank you. Sherrie ----- Original Message ----- From: Judy Landauer <geniegal@g14.myrf.net> Date: Wednesday, August 23, 2006 22:27 Subject: [KYJEFFER] Gerabronn, Germany & Landauers To: KYJEFFER-L@rootsweb.com > Sherrie, > > That's OK. I thought it might help to have another pair of eyes. > > The database with Madel is my own from Rootsweb. I would > be REALLY > surprised (and thrilled) if it that family tree belonged to > someone > else! ; ) > > The small town of Gerabronn in Germany is the ancestral home of > my > husband's family. Most of them came over between 1853 and > 1858 when > there was a huge long drought in Wurtemburg and thousands fled > to > other parts of the world. So far I have found one cousin > who is > descended from Madel's sister, Jeanette, and one family that > connects > with the SOLOMON/SALOMON family who was also from Gerabronn > that > married into the Landauers. > > They were all Jewish, which can play hobb with their first > names. > For instance: Madel's father was named Hayum Landauer, but he > went by > the German first name of Heinrich when he did business in > Germany (he > was a Realtor). When he came to America, he changed it to > Hirum, so > it wouldn't sound so outlandish, but according to > Jeanette's > descendant his name was Henry, which is the English form > of > Heinrich . Likewise his wife, Baier Jandorff, used Becky, > or > Rebecca. When Jews changed their first names in America at > this > time, they generally kept the first initial the same, but > changed the > rest, so Madel could become Marx or Max. If someone didn't > know what > his original first name was, but knew him as "Mark" or "Marcus", > then > he could have been buried under a different first name. > The last > name stayed the same. > > So you can see why tracing Jewish families can be very challenging! > > Thank you for listening to my ramblings~ Good luck with > your own > research! > > Judy L. > > On Aug 22, 2006, at 9:46 PM, <sherrie.childers@insightbb.com> > wrote: > > Judy, > > > > I couldn't find Madel Landauer or Caroline Strauss in Cave > Hill > > Cemetery's database. I looked in the 1840 census > nationwide but > > couldn't find him. I went online to Ancestry.com and > someone has > > placed him in a family tree. They gave his birth year as > 1832 in > > Gerahronn, Wurttenberg, Germany, and date of death as > 1859. They > > listed his parents as Hiram Hayum Landauer and Rebecca Baier > Jandorf.> > > Sorry I couldn't find more information. > > > > Sherrie > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Judy Landauer <geniegal@g14.myrf.net> > > Date: Tuesday, August 22, 2006 18:37 > > Subject: Re: [KYJEFFER] CAVE HILL CEMETERY > > To: KYJEFFER-L@rootsweb.com > > > >> Penny, > >> > >> Thank you for your offer! IF your copy has an index, > >> and it > >> wouldn't be too much trouble, could you look up the following?: > >> > >> I would be looking for anyone with the surname LANDAUER, but one > >> in > >> particular is Madel Landauer, who was supposed to have died > >> in > >> Louisville in 1859. Does Cave Hill have a Jewish > >> section? He was > >> Jewish so he might be there. > >> > >> One other name would be Madel's sister, Caroline, who married a > >> Mr. > >> STRAUSS. I don't know his first name. Caroline was > >> born in 1834 in > >> Germany, and, according to family legends, she was supposed to > >> be in > >> Louisville in the 1860's. > >> > >> I know this information is pretty sketchy, but my > >> Louisville > >> Landauers are hard to find. > >> > >> Thank you very much, > >> > >> Judy Landauer > >> > >> > >> On Aug 22, 2006, at 3:33 PM, rpprum@comcast.net wrote: > >> > >>> I ACQUIRED A COPY OF THE CAVE HILL CEMETERY BOOK BY SAMUEL > >> W. > >>> THOMAS TODAY. LET ME KNOW IF I CAN LOOK UP > >> ANYTHING FOR ANYONE. > >>> PENNY > >>> > >>> > >>> ==== KYJEFFER Mailing List ==== > >>> Need to know where to find all the records? Check out > >> the holdings > >>> page on the Metro KyGenWeb site: > >> http://www.rootsweb.com/~kyjeffer/ > >>> holdings/holdings.html > >>> > >>> ============================== > >>> Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for > >>> ancestors, but entire generations. 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