In a message dated 1/10/2005 6:53:35 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [email protected] writes: The only William that shows up on a census is in 1900, and is Single, and a boarder. The 1880 census is online at LDS.org, and you can find all Gilmore Surnames listed for the whole country -- Thanks again for your help. I have just found a W.D. Gilmore on the 1850 census Jefferson co., M 432, Roll 207, page 267. I feel this is the family of Sarah but she wasn't born until Dec 11, 1950. Her death cert states mother-Mary Fox and father-Wm Gilmore. This W.D. 1850 has wife Mary and one of his children's middle lame is Fox. I think this is ours but find nothing in the 1860 census. I'm dead in the water now. Barbara