Tom...You struck a memory cord. I remember a street vendor who walked through the streets of Portland in the early summer evenings. He carried a large basket and his call was a long drawn out "Charlotte Russe". What a delicacy.. A paper cup with a lady finger cake covered with custard. Jimmy O'Bryan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Thomas S. Fiske" <evytom@adelphia.net> To: <kyjeffer@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2006 10:38 AM Subject: Re: [KYJEFFER] Bread, Milk and Fruit > Dear Listers, > > Nancy has brought up interesting memories. I failed to mention the > horse-drawn ice trucks of the 1930's, from which I would swipe a small > chunk of ice on a hot day. Since each delivery method was slow, the > delivery man covered only a few neighborhoods. Therefore, there had to > have been many small vendors throughout Louisville and Jefferson County. > > What I now understand about those vendors and their deliveries is that > they brought a rhythm and a social atmosphere to the day and to the week > that we do not have now (except mail deliveries and garbage trucks). > For instance, a small boy was used to hearing the clip-clop of a horse > at four o'clock on a warm afternoon as a wagon came by with fruit. He > knew not to wander off because dinner would be ready in an hour or two. > Housewives somehow knew to be ready to go out in the street and to fill > their family's needs. Few families had two cars; the husband used the > one they had. Mothers, not wanting to walk long distances with > grocery bags in their arms, made sure they turned off "Lorenzo Jones" or > whatever soap opera was available on the radio so they would not miss > the wagon. Neighbors talked to each other as they gathered around the > cart or truck. > > There were other vendors and other vehicles, and they all punctuated the > day or the week with brief interruptions they made. When a vendor was > sick and unable to make his deliveries, nearly the whole neighborhood > knew it. They were disrupted by the missed beat in the rhythm of their > everyday lives. > > Tom, formerly of Louisville > > > > > > > > > > John Bishop wrote: > > Does anyone remember the "Donaldson Man" or "Donelson Man?" Did they deliver baked goods to homes or local groceries? If so, what years? Were there any dairies in the 40's and 50's besides Erhler's, Haywoods and Plainview? Last, the man who sold strawberries and other fruits and vegs from his cart during the summer have a horse-drawn cart or was it a large flat wagon he pushed? Thanks, Nancy > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KYJEFFER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Dear Listers, Nancy has brought up interesting memories. I failed to mention the horse-drawn ice trucks of the 1930's, from which I would swipe a small chunk of ice on a hot day. Since each delivery method was slow, the delivery man covered only a few neighborhoods. Therefore, there had to have been many small vendors throughout Louisville and Jefferson County. What I now understand about those vendors and their deliveries is that they brought a rhythm and a social atmosphere to the day and to the week that we do not have now (except mail deliveries and garbage trucks). For instance, a small boy was used to hearing the clip-clop of a horse at four o'clock on a warm afternoon as a wagon came by with fruit. He knew not to wander off because dinner would be ready in an hour or two. Housewives somehow knew to be ready to go out in the street and to fill their family's needs. Few families had two cars; the husband used the one they had. Mothers, not wanting to walk long distances with grocery bags in their arms, made sure they turned off "Lorenzo Jones" or whatever soap opera was available on the radio so they would not miss the wagon. Neighbors talked to each other as they gathered around the cart or truck. There were other vendors and other vehicles, and they all punctuated the day or the week with brief interruptions they made. When a vendor was sick and unable to make his deliveries, nearly the whole neighborhood knew it. They were disrupted by the missed beat in the rhythm of their everyday lives. Tom, formerly of Louisville John Bishop wrote: > Does anyone remember the "Donaldson Man" or "Donelson Man?" Did they deliver baked goods to homes or local groceries? If so, what years? Were there any dairies in the 40's and 50's besides Erhler's, Haywoods and Plainview? Last, the man who sold strawberries and other fruits and vegs from his cart during the summer have a horse-drawn cart or was it a large flat wagon he pushed? Thanks, Nancy > >

<This morning's walk down memory lane brought back my memories of "jumping the truck" I lived at 25th &Duncan and every weekday I was picked up by a driver who delivered packages for a company like UPS. I think it was called Delivery Department. I helped deliver packages all over the west end. I did the delivery while the driver did the paperwork sitting in the truck. He gave me an old cap that said Delivery Department and he paid me a few bucks per day once a week on Fridays. One Friday, he didn't show up and he owed me for at least two weeks work. This was 1936 and that money was important. After a week, I called my Uncle Bill O'Bryan, who was a city detective in Louisville, told him my story and he made a call on Mr. Delivery Department. The result: I got double the money that petty crook owed me. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Walker McCulloch" <wkmcculloch@yahoo.com> To: <kyjeffer@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2006 9:05 AM Subject: Re: [KYJEFFER] Bread, Milk and Fruit > Do I ever remember Donaldson's Bakery! I lived on N.35th St. from 1944 to 1950. the Donaldson delivery truck was a horse drawn van and the driver was Mr. Forcht(?). He had never learned to drive a motorized vehicle, so was the last delivery man for Donaldson to use a horse. Finally about 1948 or so Donaldson forced him to learn to drive and when he was licensed he was put in a truck. He was a terrible driver and it wasn't long after that finally retired. I think the horse was named Babe. The neighborhood kids loved that old horse and couldn't wait for it to arrive in the neighborhood. Mr. Forcht was a nice old fellow, and very patient with the kids. About 1954 we had moved to 32nd and Portland, just down the street from aDonaldson delivery man (Mr. Bowman). He hired me during Thanksgiving, Christmas, and Easter holidays to help him with his deliveries on his double route days. Called it "Jumping the Truck". I made 50 cents an hour plus he bought lunch. worked > 12+ hours a day. It was a good experience and a load of fun. By 1956 I was working at Doerhoefer's Pharmacy at 34th and Market maiking deliveries on a bicycle at night through the West End. Never had a problem. Don't know that I would want to do that now. > > I also remeber the vegetable vendors and the ice delivery truck. > > Walker K. McCulloch > Jeffersonville, IN > > ford45@comcast.net wrote: > Yes, I remember the Donaldson Man that sold the backery stuff, in my housing addition, at the old barricks ( Bowman Field) and the vegtable truck, I remember it being an old black truck, with the scale to measure hang down from the above frame. He even took a knife and pulled ther shucks down so you could see the corn was a good ear ( they don't do that anymore.) I lived there from 1945 to 1961, then we move to CA. > > -- > Teddy > List Mom for the Grayson Co Ky > List, Brady, Vertrees, Ford, > Fulkerson,and Commonwealth > http://www.kygenweb.net/pd-res/deford.html > > -------------- Original message -------------- > From: "John Bishop" > > > Does anyone remember the "Donaldson Man" or "Donelson Man?" Did they deliver > > baked goods to homes or local groceries? If so, what years? Were there any > > dairies in the 40's and 50's besides Erhler's, Haywoods and Plainview? Last, > > the man who sold strawberries and other fruits and vegs from his cart during the > > summer have a horse-drawn cart or was it a large flat wagon he pushed? Thanks, > > Nancy > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > KYJEFFER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > > the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KYJEFFER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > --------------------------------- > Do you Yahoo!? > Get on board. You're invited to try the new Yahoo! Mail. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KYJEFFER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Does anyone remember the "Donaldson Man" or "Donelson Man?" Did they deliver baked goods to homes or local groceries? If so, what years? Were there any dairies in the 40's and 50's besides Erhler's, Haywoods and Plainview? Last, the man who sold strawberries and other fruits and vegs from his cart during the summer have a horse-drawn cart or was it a large flat wagon he pushed? Thanks, Nancy

Dear Nancy, From my early life in the Highlands (through 1950) I fondly recall the Donelson man, Plainview Dairy, and a small Italian man who first had a horse drawn wagon during WWII, then a small flatbed truck. He sold vegetables and fruit, and his name was Tony. But I do not know the spelling of name of the Donalson Man. I am currently writing a small book about civilians and their contributions during WWII years and you have just helped me. Thank you. Tom, formerly of Louisville John Bishop wrote: > Does anyone remember the "Donaldson Man" or "Donelson Man?" Did they deliver baked goods to homes or local groceries? If so, what years? Were there any dairies in the 40's and 50's besides Erhler's, Haywoods and Plainview? Last, the man who sold strawberries and other fruits and vegs from his cart during the summer have a horse-drawn cart or was it a large flat wagon he pushed? Thanks, Nancy > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KYJEFFER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >

Do I ever remember Donaldson's Bakery! I lived on N.35th St. from 1944 to 1950. the Donaldson delivery truck was a horse drawn van and the driver was Mr. Forcht(?). He had never learned to drive a motorized vehicle, so was the last delivery man for Donaldson to use a horse. Finally about 1948 or so Donaldson forced him to learn to drive and when he was licensed he was put in a truck. He was a terrible driver and it wasn't long after that finally retired. I think the horse was named Babe. The neighborhood kids loved that old horse and couldn't wait for it to arrive in the neighborhood. Mr. Forcht was a nice old fellow, and very patient with the kids. About 1954 we had moved to 32nd and Portland, just down the street from aDonaldson delivery man (Mr. Bowman). He hired me during Thanksgiving, Christmas, and Easter holidays to help him with his deliveries on his double route days. Called it "Jumping the Truck". I made 50 cents an hour plus he bought lunch. worked 12+ hours a day. It was a good experience and a load of fun. By 1956 I was working at Doerhoefer's Pharmacy at 34th and Market maiking deliveries on a bicycle at night through the West End. Never had a problem. Don't know that I would want to do that now. I also remeber the vegetable vendors and the ice delivery truck. Walker K. McCulloch Jeffersonville, IN ford45@comcast.net wrote: Yes, I remember the Donaldson Man that sold the backery stuff, in my housing addition, at the old barricks ( Bowman Field) and the vegtable truck, I remember it being an old black truck, with the scale to measure hang down from the above frame. He even took a knife and pulled ther shucks down so you could see the corn was a good ear ( they don't do that anymore.) I lived there from 1945 to 1961, then we move to CA. -- Teddy List Mom for the Grayson Co Ky List, Brady, Vertrees, Ford, Fulkerson,and Commonwealth http://www.kygenweb.net/pd-res/deford.html -------------- Original message -------------- From: "John Bishop" > Does anyone remember the "Donaldson Man" or "Donelson Man?" Did they deliver > baked goods to homes or local groceries? If so, what years? Were there any > dairies in the 40's and 50's besides Erhler's, Haywoods and Plainview? Last, > the man who sold strawberries and other fruits and vegs from his cart during the > summer have a horse-drawn cart or was it a large flat wagon he pushed? Thanks, > Nancy > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > KYJEFFER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KYJEFFER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Get on board. You're invited to try the new Yahoo! Mail.

Thanks Deborah, You're right on the money! Catsmaw from Lexington is to be thanked also for her great sleuthing early this morning. She sent the same to me this morning, along with 3-4 other emails of followups. It appears this IS the Eugene L. Ruiz in question. It appears the military was his life. Maw was also able to find that a brother still exists, living in Florida, being 80 years old, recorded earlier this year. I called Mr. Davis, the veteran who made the query, and he said it was one of the best leads he has ever gotten. He said he would attempt to contact this gentleman and let me know if it is was a direct match. The brother was named William L. Ruiz. Let's hope the brother is still with us. Thanks to all those of you for taking the time to look. Originally, I was skeptical to place such a request to the list, since it is not specifically genealogically related, but genealogy is about families. Who else is better suited to find someone? Mr. Davis has not gotten back with me yet, but I feel good about highlighting his request, because I feel like we have a direct hit! Likewise, Mr. Davis is timid about placing these type requests to the Rootsweb mailing lists, so he has asked me to tell everyone about the Joint POW/MIA Accounting Command (JPAC) website. If any of you ever feel the need to play detective, feel free to go here to assist in this fine endeavor. There are still other families needing to be found. http://www.jpac.pacom.mil/ Donnie U.S. World War II Army Enlistment Records, 1938-1946 Record about Eugene L Ruiz Name: Eugene L Ruiz Birth Year: 1923 Race: White, citizen Nativity State or Country: California State: California County or City: Santa Barbara Enlistment Date: 22 Oct 1941 Enlistment State: California Enlistment City: Los Angeles Branch: Air Corps Branch Code: Air Corps Grade: Private Grade Code: Private Component: Regular Army (including Officers, Nurses, Warrant Officers, and Enlisted Men) Source: Civil Life Education: 3 years of high school Marital Status: Single, without dependents Height: 69 Weight: 155 -----Original Message----- From: kyjeffer-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:kyjeffer-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of Deborah Campisano Sent: Monday, September 04, 2006 6:31 PM To: KYJEFFER-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [KYJEFFER] Eugene Louis Ruiz I could find only two by the name Eugene Ruiz in the 1930 Federal Census on Ancestry, both born in and residing in California. The following was found for a Eugene L. Ruiz, age 6. Perhaps he came to Kentucky before joining the service. Dan A. Ruiz, Head Auto Mechanic, age 32 Julia R. Ruiz, wife, age 29 Geraldine E. Ruiz, dau., age 9 Eugene L. Ruiz, son, age 6 William L. Ruiz, son, age 3 Louise M. Purio, sister-in-law, age 20 Dan was an auto mechanic. All were born in California as were their parents. Source Citation: Ancestry.com. Year: 1930; Census Place: Santa Barbara, Santa Barbara, California; Roll: 214; Page: 2B; Enumeration District: 8; Image: 100.0. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KYJEFFER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I could find only two by the name Eugene Ruiz in the 1930 Federal Census on Ancestry, both born in and residing in California. The following was found for a Eugene L. Ruiz, age 6. Perhaps he came to Kentucky before joining the service. Dan A. Ruiz, Head Auto Mechanic, age 32 Julia R. Ruiz, wife, age 29 Geraldine E. Ruiz, dau., age 9 Eugene L. Ruiz, son, age 6 William L. Ruiz, son, age 3 Louise M. Purio, sister-in-law, age 20 Dan was an auto mechanic. All were born in California as were their parents. Source Citation: Ancestry.com. Year: 1930; Census Place: Santa Barbara, Santa Barbara, California; Roll: 214; Page: 2B; Enumeration District: 8; Image: 100.0.

Subject: Petition on reduction in hours for National Archives In late July, the National Archives announced they were planning to cut back the hours of the Washington DC area facilities of the archives. This would eliminate all evening and Saturday hours and greatly harm the ability of the average genealogist to access the records. For full details, see http://www.archives.gov/press/press-releases/2006/nr06-125.html While the Archivist of the United States was at the FGS conference he reported that they had received very little feedback from the country's genealogists asking for reconsideration. He was also presented with a request from the chair of the FGS Records Preservation Committee to consider some alternatives and a petition was started to allow genealogists to express their disagreement with the changes and to endorse alternatives that will allow the evening and Saturday hours to continue. You can see more details about that in Dick Eastman's weekly newsletter at: http://blog.eogn.com/eastmans_online_genealogy/2006/09/quick_please_jo.html The petition can be signed at: http://www.petitiononline.com/FGS2006 I would encourage each of you, as board members of The USGenWeb Project to use your influence to publicize this information throughout the project. Note that the deadline for receiving comments on the proposed changes by the archives is September 9, so there isn't much time. And I suspect that if they succeed in reducing the Washington hours, the regional archives will be soon to follow. I appreciate all that each of you do in support of the project membership and all genealogists with US ancestry. I believe that a little effort in support of this effort by FGS will pay off long term in enhancing our ability to deliver free information to our clients - genealogists everywhere. Mike St. Clair ==== USGENWEB-DISCUSS Mailing List ==== HELP WITH DESIGN AND MAINTENANCE OF YOUR USGENWEB WEB SITE http://www.usgenweb.org/volunteers/design.shtml ============================== Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx

I noted that my last message re graves found at Find A Grave came through rather garbled. Just go to _www.findagrave.com_ (http://www.findagrave.com) and click on find a cemetery on the right. Then just type in the name: Long Run and select Kentucky. They will give you next the number of graves recorded (5), and then click on see all graves. There are pictures, perhaps bio data, etc. Good luck. I have been wonderfully surprised at the ancestors I have found. Nancy Brinly

In a message dated 9/4/2006 3:56:32 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, donn1em@bellsouth.net writes: Anyone know the distinction between the Old Pennsylvania Run Presbyterian Cemetery and the Pennsylvania Run Baptist, now known as Smyrna Baptist Church, on the same road? I thought that Smyrna was the old Penn Run church, When the relatives took us to see the old graves that is where they took us. Paulina

I just check with one of my favorite sites, _www.findagrave.com_ (http://www.findagrave.com) , and came up with the following listings: Hope it is helpful to some: _Buckner, Henry Sullivan_ (http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GScid=1714593&GRid=10418947&) b. Apr. 24, 1820 d. Oct. 30, 1830 _Long Run Cemetery_ (http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=cr&GScid=1714593&CRid=1714593&pt=Long%20Run%20Cemeter y&) Jefferson County Kentucky, USA _Lincoln, Capt Abraham_ (http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GScid=1714593&GRid=6939478&) b. unknown d. Sep. 16, 1781 _Long Run Cemetery_ (http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=cr&GScid=1714593&CRid=1714593&pt=Long%20Run%20Cemetery&) Jefferson County Kentucky, USA _Sturgeon, Jane Gilbert_ (http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GScid=1714593&GRid=9456063&) b. 1780 d. 1866 _Long Run Cemetery_ (http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=cr&GScid=1714593&CRid=1714593&pt=Long%20Run%20Cemetery&) Jefferson County Kentucky, USA _Sturgeon, Robert_ (http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GScid=1714593&GRid=9456070&) b. Jan. 29, 1774 d. 1837 _Long Run Cemetery_ (http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=cr&GScid=1714593&CRid=1714593&pt=Long%20Run%20Cemetery&) Jefferson County Kentucky, USA _Sturgeon, Simpson_ (http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GScid=1714593&GRid=9456075&) b. Jul. 18, 1772 d. Mar. 30, 1822 _Long Run Cemetery_ (http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=cr&GScid=1714593&CRid=1714593&pt=Long%20Run%20Cemeter y&) Jefferson County Kentucky, USA

Barbara, Just out of curiosity, who are the ancestors you have not found on the cemetery listings? ~Alan

We are looking for Johannes Branner/Brunner, (my gggg grandfather) probably buried before 1823, at Jeffersontown Lurtheran cemetery. We are not certain if there are any Fulmers buried in Louisville area but we know that Frederick and Henry Fulmer lived there before marriages in the 1820s so it is possible. Johannes Bruner was listed in the 1810 census living next door with Martin Reisinger in Jefferson County. Martin Reisinger signed the marriage bond for Frederick and Mary Branner Fulmer marriage in 1823 in Jefferson County stating the father was deceased. We think Martin Reisinger's wife, Barbara was a sister to both Mary and Sarah Branner that married Frederick and Henry Fulmer. Both Frederick and Henry Fulmer bought farms in Washington County, Indiana and are buried there with the Branner/Brunner wives. The interchange of spellings makes research difficult but the Branner spelling is continued in future generations. Our research stops in Louisville prior to 1820s. Thanks for asking as we appreciate any help. Barbara ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alan Murray" <SSG-Murray@webtv.net> To: <kyjeffer@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, September 04, 2006 9:10 AM Subject: [KYJEFFER] Cemetery Listings > Barbara, > > Just out of curiosity, who are the ancestors you have not found on the > cemetery listings? > > ~Alan > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > KYJEFFER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Donnie, please contact me off-list for information on Long Run. Dottie dottieb@iglou.com -----Original Message----- From: kyjeffer-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:kyjeffer-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Donald L. Murphy Sent: Monday, September 04, 2006 6:50 AM To: KYJEFFER; kybullitt@yahoogroups.com Subject: [KYJEFFER] Cane Run, Long Run, Penn Run Thanks to Brenda Stillwell, I was able to add many photos to begin a database of those buried at the Old Pennsylvania Run Cemetery. Anyone have any history on one of our older burial grounds? Anyone know the distinction between the Old Pennsylvania Run Presbyterian Cemetery and the Pennsylvania Run Baptist, now known as Smyrna Baptist Church, on the same road? I'm guessing the two sit across the road from each other, and that is why I now see Pennsylvania Run Memorial Park on the map? Just thought I'd ask, before I assume too much. Has there ever been any connection whatsoever to the old German Reformed Presbyterian Cemetery at NE corner of Shelby and Main streets in Jeffersontown? I know. I know. I'm always full of questions. Sharon, I also managed to begin a listing for the Long Run Baptist Church Cemetery. You have any more to add? Does anyone else? Hallie Martinson gave me permission to use her photos on the Jefferson KyGenWeb site, so I started the small listing with those. I have not run across even a partial listing of burials anywhere else for Long Run, except for the photos Hallie has taken. This is another one of our county's earlier cemeteries which tells us a lot about our history. Last week, I also managed to get the Cane Run Methodist and Presbyterian listings online, thanks to the wonderful Marguerite Miller, President of the Louisville Genealogical Society. She submitted works compiled by Lois Knapp and Betty Darnell. http://www.rootsweb.com/~kyjeffer/cems/Penn%20Run/pennrunindex.html Pennsylvania Run Memorial Park http://www.rootsweb.com/~kyjeffer/cems/longrunbaptistchurchcemetery.html Long Run Cemetery http://www.rootsweb.com/~kyjeffer/cems/canerunmethodistchurchcemetery.ht ml Cane Run Methodist http://www.rootsweb.com/~kyjeffer/cems/canerunpresbyteriancemetery.html Cane Run Presbyterian As always, if you have names, data or photos of anyone buried in any Jefferson County cemetery, I'll gladly place them online for posterity. Holler my way anytime at all, Donnie ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KYJEFFER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Even though I have not beeen fortunate to discover my Jefferson County, Ky. ancestors on these new cemetery listings, I deeply appreciate and thank each and every person that takes their time and energy to record these listings. It is a wonderful service for many of us unable to travel. I will continue to search as more come on line. Thank you. Barbara ----- Original Message ----- From: "Donald L. Murphy" <donn1em@bellsouth.net> To: "KYJEFFER" <KYJEFFER-L@rootsweb.com>; <kybullitt@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Monday, September 04, 2006 5:49 AM Subject: [KYJEFFER] Cane Run, Long Run, Penn Run > Thanks to Brenda Stillwell, I was able to add many photos to begin a > database of those buried at the Old Pennsylvania Run Cemetery. Anyone > have > any history on one of our older burial grounds? Anyone know the > distinction between the Old Pennsylvania Run Presbyterian Cemetery and the > Pennsylvania Run Baptist, now known as Smyrna Baptist Church, on the same > road? I'm guessing the two sit across the road from each other, and that > is why I now see Pennsylvania Run Memorial Park on the map? Just thought > I'd ask, before I assume too much. Has there ever been any connection > whatsoever to the old German Reformed Presbyterian Cemetery at NE corner > of > Shelby and Main streets in Jeffersontown? I know. I know. I'm always > full of questions. > > Sharon, I also managed to begin a listing for the Long Run Baptist Church > Cemetery. You have any more to add? Does anyone else? Hallie Martinson > gave me permission to use her photos on the Jefferson KyGenWeb site, so I > started the small listing with those. I have not run across even a > partial > listing of burials anywhere else for Long Run, except for the photos > Hallie > has taken. This is another one of our county's earlier cemeteries which > tells us a lot about our history. > > Last week, I also managed to get the Cane Run Methodist and Presbyterian > listings online, thanks to the wonderful Marguerite Miller, President of > the > Louisville Genealogical Society. She submitted works compiled by Lois > Knapp and Betty Darnell. > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~kyjeffer/cems/Penn%20Run/pennrunindex.html > Pennsylvania Run Memorial Park > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~kyjeffer/cems/longrunbaptistchurchcemetery.html > Long Run Cemetery > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~kyjeffer/cems/canerunmethodistchurchcemetery.html > Cane Run Methodist > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~kyjeffer/cems/canerunpresbyteriancemetery.html > Cane Run Presbyterian > > As always, if you have names, data or photos of anyone buried in any > Jefferson County cemetery, I'll gladly place them online for posterity. > Holler my way anytime at all, > > Donnie > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > KYJEFFER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I ran across this on the message board and thought I'd share it here. Like Mr. Davis, I believe this to be a very noble cause also. Anyone have any recollections of the Ruiz name while researching? Anyone have easy access to the city directory for the few years prior to 1951? "I am searching for the family of a soldier who was killed in the Korea War. When he entered service he gave Jefferson County KY, Louisville as his home of record. Soldier: Eugene Louis Ruiz Born: June 28, 1923, Caucasian Date of loss: KIA July 2, 1951, His remains were never recovered. When the Korean War ended the enemy never returned or accounted for over 8,000 of our servicemen. They died in their hands. That was over 50 years ago. Since that time DNA has been perfected and also they are recovering remains in North Korea. Our government is obligated to return those remains to the proper family. DNA samples have been obtained from most of the families of these missing soldiers. For various reasons some families have not been located. There are 35 families in Kentucky that have not been located. There is one family from *** County that has not been located. When the remains are recovered and identified they will be returned to the family for proper burial. I am just an old (76 years) Combat Veteran out of the Korean War and thankful that I did return. I consider this a very noble cause and I hope that you can help in some way to find this family. For more information on the project you may go to http://www.jpac.pacom.mil/. My part in the program is to match up the lost families with the proper agency. I will be grateful for any assistance in locating this family." Harold Davis 40th Infantry Division Korea ’52-‘53 910-791-2333

Thanks to Brenda Stillwell, I was able to add many photos to begin a database of those buried at the Old Pennsylvania Run Cemetery. Anyone have any history on one of our older burial grounds? Anyone know the distinction between the Old Pennsylvania Run Presbyterian Cemetery and the Pennsylvania Run Baptist, now known as Smyrna Baptist Church, on the same road? I'm guessing the two sit across the road from each other, and that is why I now see Pennsylvania Run Memorial Park on the map? Just thought I'd ask, before I assume too much. Has there ever been any connection whatsoever to the old German Reformed Presbyterian Cemetery at NE corner of Shelby and Main streets in Jeffersontown? I know. I know. I'm always full of questions. Sharon, I also managed to begin a listing for the Long Run Baptist Church Cemetery. You have any more to add? Does anyone else? Hallie Martinson gave me permission to use her photos on the Jefferson KyGenWeb site, so I started the small listing with those. I have not run across even a partial listing of burials anywhere else for Long Run, except for the photos Hallie has taken. This is another one of our county's earlier cemeteries which tells us a lot about our history. Last week, I also managed to get the Cane Run Methodist and Presbyterian listings online, thanks to the wonderful Marguerite Miller, President of the Louisville Genealogical Society. She submitted works compiled by Lois Knapp and Betty Darnell. http://www.rootsweb.com/~kyjeffer/cems/Penn%20Run/pennrunindex.html Pennsylvania Run Memorial Park http://www.rootsweb.com/~kyjeffer/cems/longrunbaptistchurchcemetery.html Long Run Cemetery http://www.rootsweb.com/~kyjeffer/cems/canerunmethodistchurchcemetery.html Cane Run Methodist http://www.rootsweb.com/~kyjeffer/cems/canerunpresbyteriancemetery.html Cane Run Presbyterian As always, if you have names, data or photos of anyone buried in any Jefferson County cemetery, I'll gladly place them online for posterity. Holler my way anytime at all, Donnie

Thank you so much for sharing this. Most interesting!!! Martha A great article in today’s Washington Post By Lisa Rein Washington Post Staff Writer Sunday, September 3, 2006; Page A01 JAMESTOWN -- They were known as the "20 and odd," the first African slaves to set foot in North America at the English colony settled in 1607. For nearly 400 years, historians believed they were transported to Virginia from the West Indies on a Dutch warship. Little else was known of the Africans, who left no trace. Now, new scholarship and transatlantic detective work have solved the puzzle of who they were and where their forced journey across the Atlantic Ocean began. The slaves were herded onto a Portuguese slave ship in Angola, in Southwest Africa. The ship was seized by British pirates on the high seas -- not brought to Virginia after a period of time in the Caribbean. The slaves represented one ethnic group, not many, as historians first believed…. <http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/09/02/AR200609020 1097.html> http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/09/02/AR2006090201 097.html

A great article in today’s Washington Post By Lisa Rein Washington Post Staff Writer Sunday, September 3, 2006; Page A01 JAMESTOWN -- They were known as the "20 and odd," the first African slaves to set foot in North America at the English colony settled in 1607. For nearly 400 years, historians believed they were transported to Virginia from the West Indies on a Dutch warship. Little else was known of the Africans, who left no trace. Now, new scholarship and transatlantic detective work have solved the puzzle of who they were and where their forced journey across the Atlantic Ocean began. The slaves were herded onto a Portuguese slave ship in Angola, in Southwest Africa. The ship was seized by British pirates on the high seas -- not brought to Virginia after a period of time in the Caribbean. The slaves represented one ethnic group, not many, as historians first believed…. <http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/09/02/AR200609020 1097.html> http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/09/02/AR2006090201 097.html