Dottie, I'd like to have the book. Middletown Inn???? Is that the Wetherby House that is now the City Hall? What time will he be there Friday? Cheers, Laura

In a message dated 9/6/2006 6:32:05 PM Pacific Daylight Time, NankieBee@aol.com writes: > . Fun memories. Nancy Brinly > For sure! This has been such a fun read. Hope someone is putting it all together. What a wonderful bunch of memories. Isn't this what we call "putting some flesh on those old bones." Paulina....

Hi Bill and other listers. I lived in San Francisco before & during WWII, but came to my grandparents here (3405 Garland) one summer via the train with my Mother, sister, and baby brother. It took us 5 days because of the troop trains receiving track preference. I remember the Donaldson wagon, milk delivered into the box, A small door on the back porch where the ice man used to put ice directly into the "ice box", the smell of hops from the Breweries we passed going on the bus from 34th & Broadway to Stewarts on 4th, going to the poultry house to get chicken and watching the chickens run around minus their heads, being steamed, etc. I also remember my grandaddy coming home with a bucket of beer, and his taking us to Fountain Ferry. That summer each of us children got chicken pox one after the other and there was a big QUARENTINE sign in the window to keep out visitors and us in the house. ....and a FYI, Mr. Bisig delivered milk to most of the people on my block and others throughout the Highlands up until the late 70's. He would just walk in and put the milk away for you. Fun memories. Nancy Brinly

The 39th annual Middletown Milestone Festival is this weekend Sept 8 and 9th. This is a family friendly event and they expect up to 65,000 people. There will be more than 150 booths, with bands a grand parade and The Family Dog Show. Sam Tucker will be at the Middletown Inn Friday September 8th and after the Parade Sat. 9 to sell and sign his book "Pictorial Middletown Historical Buildings and Institutions". It looked like a really nice book with many pictures of early houses, stores and other early buildings, many of which were built of logs. This Festival should be a fun event if you are in the area. Dottie

And speaking of breweries, I got a very close look and smell because during the war my father was a storekeeper-gauger for the Feds and was supposed to watch over the alcohol producing operations to make sure Uncle Sam got his just rewards. I saw lots of distilleries also. Then they made my dad an inspector (revenuer) for the Feds and my close look at the drunk works stopped. Tom the bewildered Walker McCulloch wrote: > Mercy, I had forgotten all those smells. Every place had its own unique smell -- the beer breweries on Broadway, the distilleries (mainly I remember Park and Tilford on 34th), the coal smell from the K & I yards, the tobacco smell from Lucky Strike, P. Lorillard, Brown & Williamson, et al., manure from the Donaldson horse or the rag man's horse, the smell of white oak barrels from the Chickasaw plant. Best thing I remember is that many housewives along Portland Av. baked their own pies, and that was maybe the best smell of them all. > > And we got one of those quarantine signs one summer, measles?, mumps? some disease no one even thinks about now. I remember the Poloi epidemic in the summer of maybe 1947 or 48 when we had to stay in our house a lot. None of the neighborhood kids could play together because one of the End boys up the street caught Polio. there was a snowball stand on 37th st. (just behind Portland Cemetery). Dad would walk us down Pflanz to 37th and he would go in and get the snowballs because my brother and I couldn't go in. I don't know if all those precautions really worked or not, but we never caught Polio. > > Walker K. McCulloch >

Our Watkins Man was Mr. Heller. I remember the menthol liquid for your handkerchief and the maple syrup flavoring that you could use to make pancake syrup. We lived on River Park Drive. Our house had a half basement and the coal man came once a year to fill it for winter. The over flow was put in our one car garage, since we had no car. We had to haul the coal to the house when the coal bin was empty using an old kid's wagon. Did you, ever have the milk to freeze in the milk box and push the top off and the cream out of the bottle? Lots of interesting things in the old days. Bill

Ok I can't resist this. Anyone remember the Whiz restaurant at Frankfort Ave and Clifton?? Mid 60's? For a short time there was an ice cream shop across Frankfort Ave from there. What was the name of that shop? Dorothy Boletused@aol.com wrote: In a message dated 9/6/2006 6:56:56 PM Pacific Daylight Time, bn_0801@yahoo.com writes: > . I find that it's very, > very interesting! An unusual opportunity! > Yes it is! My husband's ancestors are from the Louisville area and I feel like I have just had a very nice visit into what their lives were like. Our family histories are so much more than birth dates, death dates, etc. Thank you all for sharing. Paulina ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KYJEFFER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Plehn's is still there and my one big indulgence! I love their apricot Danish. Dottie -----Original Message----- From: kyjeffer-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:kyjeffer-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Thomas S. Fiske Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2006 7:38 PM To: kyjeffer@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [KYJEFFER] Bread, Milk and Fruit Dear Listers, On Sunday afternoons when there was gasoline, we would take a drive in an old car. The thing leaked exhaust gases in the back and my parents smoked cigarettes, so the back seat wasn't so pleasant with my two older brothers crowding me out. Mercifully our trips were short, and even more mercifully, we would return through the St. Matthews-Crescent Hill area where there was a Plenz Bakery (not sure of the spelling). They made a German rye bread that was wonderful and we would also get a hunk of Swiss cheese that was out of the world. We would take this food home and listen to Jack Benny and Fred Allen on the radio as we would eat our freshly purchased bakery goods. Tom John Bishop wrote: > You can still Charles Chips at Cracker Barrel Restaurants.....canister of chips costs $10.00, 3 years ago...probably costs more now. Nancy > ----- Original Message ----- > From: pierre<mailto:pierre@bbtel.com> > To: KYJEFFER@rootsweb.com<mailto:KYJEFFER@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2006 9:36 PM > Subject: [KYJEFFER] Bread, Milk and Fruit > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KYJEFFER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Mercy, I had forgotten all those smells. Every place had its own unique smell -- the beer breweries on Broadway, the distilleries (mainly I remember Park and Tilford on 34th), the coal smell from the K & I yards, the tobacco smell from Lucky Strike, P. Lorillard, Brown & Williamson, et al., manure from the Donaldson horse or the rag man's horse, the smell of white oak barrels from the Chickasaw plant. Best thing I remember is that many housewives along Portland Av. baked their own pies, and that was maybe the best smell of them all. And we got one of those quarantine signs one summer, measles?, mumps? some disease no one even thinks about now. I remember the Poloi epidemic in the summer of maybe 1947 or 48 when we had to stay in our house a lot. None of the neighborhood kids could play together because one of the End boys up the street caught Polio. there was a snowball stand on 37th st. (just behind Portland Cemetery). Dad would walk us down Pflanz to 37th and he would go in and get the snowballs because my brother and I couldn't go in. I don't know if all those precautions really worked or not, but we never caught Polio. Walker K. McCulloch NankieBee@aol.com wrote: Hi Bill and other listers. I lived in San Francisco before & during WWII, but came to my grandparents here (3405 Garland) one summer via the train with my Mother, sister, and baby brother. It took us 5 days because of the troop trains receiving track preference. I remember the Donaldson wagon, milk delivered into the box, A small door on the back porch where the ice man used to put ice directly into the "ice box", the smell of hops from the Breweries we passed going on the bus from 34th & Broadway to Stewarts on 4th, going to the poultry house to get chicken and watching the chickens run around minus their heads, being steamed, etc. I also remember my grandaddy coming home with a bucket of beer, and his taking us to Fountain Ferry. That summer each of us children got chicken pox one after the other and there was a big QUARENTINE sign in the window to keep out visitors and us in the house. ....and a FYI, Mr. Bisig delivered milk to most of the people on my block and others throughout the Highlands up until the late 70's. He would just walk in and put the milk away for you. Fun memories. Nancy Brinly ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KYJEFFER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Get on board. You're invited to try the new Yahoo! Mail.

>From a younger guy (hey I like how that sounds!) I am fascinated by this chain. A bit of history shared by those who were there! I was thinking the same thing as Paulina - "Hope someone is putting it all together" I'll volunteer to be the scribe, put all the comments together, and send it out to the list. Keep them coming if you'd like...I hope that all of you who have participated DO NOT think this is boring the rest of us who didn't experience. I find that it's very, very interesting! An unusual opportunity! Bob --- Boletused@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 9/6/2006 6:32:05 PM Pacific Daylight Time, > NankieBee@aol.com writes: > > > . Fun memories. Nancy Brinly > > > > For sure! This has been such a fun read. Hope someone is putting it > all > together. What a wonderful bunch of memories. Isn't this what we > call "putting > some flesh on those old bones." > Paulina.... > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > KYJEFFER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

You can still Charles Chips at Cracker Barrel Restaurants.....canister of chips costs $10.00, 3 years ago...probably costs more now. Nancy ----- Original Message ----- From: pierre<mailto:pierre@bbtel.com> To: KYJEFFER@rootsweb.com<mailto:KYJEFFER@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2006 9:36 PM Subject: [KYJEFFER] Bread, Milk and Fruit I have enjoyed reading the emails bringing back so many memories from my childhood. I lived near Portland Ave. and 22nd Street until I was in the 1st grade. We then moved to the Southend of Louis- ville. We had a man that came around selling Charles Chips in a tin cannister. They were always so fresh and delicious. We also had an ice cream vendor whose vehicle was round-shaped and spun around. I wondered how he could steer it straight! Also, Mr. Softee and Mr. Frosty came through with wonderful ice cream selections. Priscilla ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KYJEFFER-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:KYJEFFER-request@rootsweb.com> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I loved looking through these old photos! thank you so much for sharing this website info. U of L has a great collection of pictures from the past at their photography archives page: http://library.louisville.edu/ekstrom/special/pa_info.html Go into the on-line database and I think the collection that has the most is the Potter collection. I especially like the pictures of Bardstown Road since I was raised in the Highlands. Jennefer

Dear Bill, Yes, once or twice the milk did freeze. But Louisville seldom had cold weather between 1932 and 1957 that I recall. My yardstick is the three years I lived near Schenectady, NY when I was working for GE. Louisville was Edenic in comparison. I was on the corporate staff of GE from 1968-1971. A person had to sign on to the staff for a period three years. My family and I were there three years and ten minutes. Tom the bewildered PlowmanKy@aol.com wrote: > Our Watkins Man was Mr. Heller. I remember the menthol liquid for your > handkerchief and the maple syrup flavoring that you could use to make pancake > syrup. > > We lived on River Park Drive. Our house had a half basement and the coal > man came once a year to fill it for winter. The over flow was put in our one > car garage, since we had no car. We had to haul the coal to the house when the > coal bin was empty using an old kid's wagon. > > Did you, ever have the milk to freeze in the milk box and push the top off > and the cream out of the bottle? Lots of interesting things in the old days. > > Bill > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KYJEFFER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >

Oh, yes! I forgot the wonderful strudels (streussels?) and other sweet foods they had. They were really great. Bad for the arteries, but good for the stomach. Tom the bewildered Dottie Brentlinger wrote: > Plehn's is still there and my one big indulgence! I love their apricot > Danish. Dottie > > -----Original Message----- > From: kyjeffer-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:kyjeffer-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Thomas S. Fiske > Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2006 7:38 PM > To: kyjeffer@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [KYJEFFER] Bread, Milk and Fruit > > Dear Listers, >

Dear Listers, Earlier today this email bounced three times, so I am sending it again. It refers to Young Glenn V's email which is below mine. Dear Listers, Glenn is right, of course, about Cherokee Dairy, Oscar Ewing and the others. I also remember that his family lived on the same street that my family did. And what's more, the houses got nicer looking as they went from our direction to his. We were renting, though, and no one in the better areas would rent to a family with three mean little boys because the police were just not up to the challenge. And yes, we did have a coal furnace. Deliveries were made through a hole in a window of the basement, wheeled in by a wheel barrow to the back yards from an alley. Some poor guy had to do a lot of back-breaking work all day to get that coal into the houses. I used to go out and talk to the men who did the work and I sympathized with them. Maybe that is why I spent years as an industrial engineering and management where I did not allow people's jobs to overload them. And why I live on a corner lot, in Southern California, so I do not have to look at the better houses. Tom the Bewildered Though not as aged as some of the rest of you, (Tom the Bewildered), I remember 2 dairies that delivered in the Louisville area: Cherokee Dairy, previously known as Cherokee Sanitary Milk Co. and also Oscar Ewing Dairy that was located on Bardstown Road near Taylorsville Road. I believe Cherokee was the last old milk company that delivered, and after they stopped it was just Ehrlers. I know Cherokee delivered until the early 1970's. Oscar Ewing delivered up until the late 1960's. The person that mentioned the round "merry go round" ice cream man, which was a thing of the 60's+++ there was an article in the last few years about a guy who is rebuilding one of those old things. Believe the article was in the Courier Journal in the last 2 years or so. If I remember correctly the guy bought the thing from a junk yard. I remember the Donaldson man and also the Linker Bread man. How about the coal deliveries? I had a great uncle that lived near Budeke Coal Company off Swan Street. I remember the coal trucks running in and out delivering coal. (It's still there by the way) Glenn

Dear Listers, On Sunday afternoons when there was gasoline, we would take a drive in an old car. The thing leaked exhaust gases in the back and my parents smoked cigarettes, so the back seat wasn't so pleasant with my two older brothers crowding me out. Mercifully our trips were short, and even more mercifully, we would return through the St. Matthews-Crescent Hill area where there was a Plenz Bakery (not sure of the spelling). They made a German rye bread that was wonderful and we would also get a hunk of Swiss cheese that was out of the world. We would take this food home and listen to Jack Benny and Fred Allen on the radio as we would eat our freshly purchased bakery goods. Tom John Bishop wrote: > You can still Charles Chips at Cracker Barrel Restaurants.....canister of chips costs $10.00, 3 years ago...probably costs more now. Nancy > ----- Original Message ----- > From: pierre<mailto:pierre@bbtel.com> > To: KYJEFFER@rootsweb.com<mailto:KYJEFFER@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2006 9:36 PM > Subject: [KYJEFFER] Bread, Milk and Fruit >

U of L has a great collection of pictures from the past at their photography archives page: http://library.louisville.edu/ekstrom/special/pa_info.html Go into the on-line database and I think the collection that has the most is the Potter collection. I especially like the pictures of Bardstown Road since I was raised in the Highlands. Jennefer -----Original Message----- From: kyjeffer-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:kyjeffer-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of Mplamkin@aol.com Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2006 3:30 PM To: kyjeffer@rootsweb.com Subject: [KYJEFFER] Bread, Milk and Fruit I had forgotten about the Fuller brush peddlar, but now that you mention it, I know we bought our brooms and mops from him. Now I recall that another peddlar during those times was a representative of the Watkins Co., from whom my mother bought vanilla extract and lemon extract which she used in baking. I remember that he had to show us lots of items and tried to talk Mom into trying them, but since our finances were tight, she stuck to her guns and just kept saying, "No thanks!", until he finally packed up his big black case of merchandise and gave up. I was one of those who got polio, I was only 15 months old at the time and don't remember it. No lasting effects, I was one of the lucky ones. I, too, remember the Donaldson man in Jeffersontown in the early 1950's, but no one has mentioned the Fuller Brush man who came thru every couple of months. We had milk delivery after I was married in the early 1960's. Dottie ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KYJEFFER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.12.0/439 - Release Date: 9/6/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.12.0/439 - Release Date: 9/6/2006

I had forgotten about the Fuller brush peddlar, but now that you mention it, I know we bought our brooms and mops from him. Now I recall that another peddlar during those times was a representative of the Watkins Co., from whom my mother bought vanilla extract and lemon extract which she used in baking. I remember that he had to show us lots of items and tried to talk Mom into trying them, but since our finances were tight, she stuck to her guns and just kept saying, "No thanks!", until he finally packed up his big black case of merchandise and gave up. I was one of those who got polio, I was only 15 months old at the time and don't remember it. No lasting effects, I was one of the lucky ones. I, too, remember the Donaldson man in Jeffersontown in the early 1950's, but no one has mentioned the Fuller Brush man who came thru every couple of months. We had milk delivery after I was married in the early 1960's. Dottie

Though not as aged as some of the rest of you, (Tom the Bewildered), I remember 2 dairies that delivered in the Louisville area: Cherokee Dairy, previously known as Cherokee Sanitary Milk Co. and also Oscar Ewing Dairy that was located on Bardstown Road near Taylorsville Road. I believe Cherokee was the last old milk company that delivered, and after they stopped it was just Ehrlers. I know Cherokee delivered until the early 1970's. Oscar Ewing delivered up until the late 1960's. The person that mentioned the round "merry go round" ice cream man, which was a thing of the 60's+++ there was an article in the last few years about a guy who is rebuilding one of those old things. Believe the article was in the Courier Journal in the last 2 years or so. If I remember correctly the guy bought the thing from a junk yard. I remember the Donaldson man and also the Linker Bread man. How about the coal deliveries? I had a great uncle that lived near Budeke Coal Company off Swan Street. I remember the coal trucks running in and out delivering coal. (It's still there by the way) Glenn

I was one of those who got polio, I was only 15 months old at the time and don't remember it. No lasting effects, I was one of the lucky ones. I, too, remember the Donaldson man in Jeffersontown in the early 1950's, but no one has mentioned the Fuller Brush man who came thru every couple of months. We had milk delivery after I was married in the early 1960's. Dottie Subject: [KYJEFFER] Bread, Milk and Fruit Oh my, I can just smell those scrumptious huge glazed donuts, still warm, in huge trays in the Donaldson wagon, as it came through the government housing project at 12th and Hill. We moved there when I was 5 after my father got a job at duPont, making neoprene rubber for the war. The housing project was built for government workers and was new and clean at that time. I had lots of little friends