Thank you all so much for all the info. You've so thoughtful to help. Marge Karen Clanin wrote: > i have a lot of luck finding stuff doing searches at www.google.com, be > sure to put the name in quote marks, like "John Smith" and then ad other > info such as the county, state, year etc. if you don't get many returns > then start taking things out one at a time and re-do the search. > > i realize the below may not be KY but did find this with a google search > for "Ida Setzer" , it brought 4 returns, one that was no longer > available but unless you read German i don't think of value anyway! > > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~thstiger/RECORDS3.htm > 368. Claude JAYNE, son of Corey and Myrtle (ARNTS) Jayne, age 24y, res. > Meshoppen, and Miss Esther REMALY, dau. of Ervin and Ida (SETZER) > Remaly, age 18, res. Bethlehem, were married on 3 DEC 1926 in Meshoppen, > PA. (V.18, P.105, L.#4537) > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nccatawb/family/setzer.txt > this is descendants of jacob setzer and might be of interest and there > is an ida there b 1878 > > http://www.shelbystar.com/obits2001/_disc4/00000059.htm > in the obit of Floyd Byers who died Wednesday, Sept. 26, 2001 it > contains the following: > He is survived by a daughter and a son-in-law, Camilla Byers and Arthur > Young; a son, Jack Byers of Cherryville; a brother, Hood Byers, 100, of > Washington, D.C.; a sister, John Ida Setzer Thoms of Kings Mountain; > nine grandchildren, Jacqueline Byers McDaniel, Terry Cunningham, Floyd > Gene Bridges, Pattie Porter, Dennis, Regina Young Petteway, Madeline > Young Howell, Jacqueline Denise Smith, Lillian Young Friday and Adrienne > Young George; 15 great-grandchildren; and seven great-great grandchildren. > > karen in CA > > > ==== KYJEFFER Mailing List ==== > Submit your information to the Jefferson Co., KY History and Genealogy > project. See http://home.ix.netcom.com/~gsdownr/usgw/jefferson1.html > for information on how to submit. > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

Hello, Best thing would be to first go to the Indiana Genweb site: http://www.ingenweb.org/ingen_county.htm The counties have excellent information and links. This one will take you to a searchable database in the Indiana State Library, marriages to 1850: http://www.statelib.lib.in.us/www/indiana/genealogy/mirr.html If you have a subscription to Ancestry.com, or you know someone who does, they have a couple of Indiana marriage databases. Sincerely, Pat ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kathy McClane" <mrsmac_94@hotmail.com> To: <KYJEFFER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, June 21, 2002 9:03 PM Subject: Re: [KYJEFFER] marriage look up > Thanks Pat, > Any suggestions on where I would go to search? Is there anything online I could check? > > Kathy >

my ggrandfather, Samuel Duffield Bowman has been a brick wall for me. i happened to find the below which surely has to be him as his father, Farro/Faro/Farrow Bowman was a cooper with (I'm told) a boat on the Ohio River. Samuel Duffield Bowman was born 1856 in Pope Co IL but they have been found invarious places along the river: Carroll Co KY, Trimble Co KY and 'sposidly Samuel married in Switzerland Co IN around 1885 to Amelia "Minnie" Bosaw but no marriage record has yet been found. this Louisville directory is only the 2nd time i have found his man -- previous was at age 4 in the 1860 census for Pope Co IL. if anyone can shed any light in this direction i would be most appreciative. he had siblings James T Bowman b 1850, Hugh MacCollie Bowman b 1857 (also called "Collie"), twins Edward and Edwin b 1860 and Martha b 1864. Collie has been found in a couple census but the others remain illusive also. i did find a Martha Bowman in the 1890 Louisville directory listed as laundress which since finding Samuel Duffield Bowman there in 1886 i tend to think it is his sister. Louisville, Kentucky Directories, 1886 Surname: Bowman Given Name: Duffield MI: Occupation: cooper Address: 2826 Montgomery thanks very much karen bowman clanin in CA

i have a lot of luck finding stuff doing searches at www.google.com, be sure to put the name in quote marks, like "John Smith" and then ad other info such as the county, state, year etc. if you don't get many returns then start taking things out one at a time and re-do the search. i realize the below may not be KY but did find this with a google search for "Ida Setzer" , it brought 4 returns, one that was no longer available but unless you read German i don't think of value anyway! http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~thstiger/RECORDS3.htm 368. Claude JAYNE, son of Corey and Myrtle (ARNTS) Jayne, age 24y, res. Meshoppen, and Miss Esther REMALY, dau. of Ervin and Ida (SETZER) Remaly, age 18, res. Bethlehem, were married on 3 DEC 1926 in Meshoppen, PA. (V.18, P.105, L.#4537) http://www.rootsweb.com/~nccatawb/family/setzer.txt this is descendants of jacob setzer and might be of interest and there is an ida there b 1878 http://www.shelbystar.com/obits2001/_disc4/00000059.htm in the obit of Floyd Byers who died Wednesday, Sept. 26, 2001 it contains the following: He is survived by a daughter and a son-in-law, Camilla Byers and Arthur Young; a son, Jack Byers of Cherryville; a brother, Hood Byers, 100, of Washington, D.C.; a sister, John Ida Setzer Thoms of Kings Mountain; nine grandchildren, Jacqueline Byers McDaniel, Terry Cunningham, Floyd Gene Bridges, Pattie Porter, Dennis, Regina Young Petteway, Madeline Young Howell, Jacqueline Denise Smith, Lillian Young Friday and Adrienne Young George; 15 great-grandchildren; and seven great-great grandchildren. karen in CA

Diane, What counties of Kentucky are covered on the CD? My understanding is that most of the Jefferson Co. marriages are NOT included. Therefore, if we can't find an entry, that doesn't mean the marriage isn't on file in the court house. Maybe you or others on the list can tell me if this is true or not. Deborah ----- Original Message ----- From: "Diane" <lilirish@gtw.net> To: <KYJEFFER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, June 22, 2002 2:34 PM Subject: [KYJEFFER] No Wat/Watson or Ellen Lynch found on marriage disk > This CD is from Ancestry and is called KY Vital Records - Marriages 1780 to 1920. > No Wat/Watson or Ellen Lynch found on the disk - Sorry. > > Diane Shaw > St. Louis, MO > > > > > ==== KYJEFFER Mailing List ==== > Submit your information to the Jefferson Co., KY History and Genealogy project. See http://home.ix.netcom.com/~gsdownr/usgw/jefferson1.html for information on how to submit. > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

Thanks. I just now signed up for Clark Co. See what I can find. Marge Debbie wrote: > Marge....it will more than likely be Clark county, Indiana. > Debbie > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "John Schulke" <schulkejw@mpinet.net> > To: <KYJEFFER-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, June 22, 2002 2:31 PM > Subject: [KYJEFFER] Which county in IN to go get married from Louisville? > > > >>Anyone have a clue as to where one would go to be married if they lived in >>Louisville. I know the Hill family lived there but we find no marriages. >> > Someone > >>suggests they might 'go over the line'? Thanks Marge >> >> >> >>==== KYJEFFER Mailing List ==== >>http://www.alhn.org and http://www.ahgp.org >>Go here for additional American History resources. >> >>============================== >>To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, >> > go to: > >>http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >> >> > > > > ==== KYJEFFER Mailing List ==== > http://www.usgenweb.org > Home of the oldest and largest volunteer not-for-profit genealogy organization on the web. > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > >

Marge....it will more than likely be Clark county, Indiana. Debbie ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Schulke" <schulkejw@mpinet.net> To: <KYJEFFER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, June 22, 2002 2:31 PM Subject: [KYJEFFER] Which county in IN to go get married from Louisville? > Anyone have a clue as to where one would go to be married if they lived in > Louisville. I know the Hill family lived there but we find no marriages. Someone > suggests they might 'go over the line'? Thanks Marge > > > > ==== KYJEFFER Mailing List ==== > http://www.alhn.org and http://www.ahgp.org > Go here for additional American History resources. > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Thank you, Jackie

Anyone have a clue as to where one would go to be married if they lived in Louisville. I know the Hill family lived there but we find no marriages. Someone suggests they might 'go over the line'? Thanks Marge

This CD is from Ancestry and is called KY Vital Records - Marriages 1780 to 1920. No Wat/Watson or Ellen Lynch found on the disk - Sorry. Diane Shaw St. Louis, MO

Rick, Thanks for all the information! I think I'm going to try church records first. Problem is, I looking for 2 people related, with the same first and last name, born 2 yrs apart!! I have a complicated mess! Thanks again, Debbie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rick Waggener" <sequoia@pacbell.net> To: <KYJEFFER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, June 22, 2002 11:21 AM Subject: Re: [KYJEFFER] 1840 census > Debbie- > There is some information in the 1840 census. It's just a little more than > the 1830 census, but even more information than the earlier ones. All white > males and females in the household are counted in age groups that are > basically every 10 years. If there are slaves in the household they are > counted by gender and somewhat broader age categories. There are some very > general categories for occupations and numbers in the household involved in > them. > > I have found that if you know something about the people in the family, you > can sometimes take a pretty good guess about who is who. This does give you > some information. It will give you a general location for the household, > which can be helpful also. As in other census records, there is some > variation in how different enumerators filled in the sheets, and there can > be errors. I believe some of the errors came from the person in the > household who gave the information to the enumerator. > > If you want to give me a name and location, I would be happy to see what I > can find. The good thing is there are far few census pages in 1840, and > earlier and the records are pretty easy to transcribe. > > The first census that listed the name of everyone in the household was 1850. > I have seen a lot of these however, where just the initials of the names are > listed. Ancestry.com has this census also, and also with an index. These > records are very compelling. If you are very lucky, you can document where a > person was and who they were living with, for every 10 years of their lives > (at least up until 1930). > > Rick Waggener > sequoia@pacbell.net > > > > ==== KYJEFFER Mailing List ==== > Submit your information to the Jefferson Co., KY History and Genealogy project. See http://home.ix.netcom.com/~gsdownr/usgw/jefferson1.html for information on how to submit. > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

Debbie- There is some information in the 1840 census. It's just a little more than the 1830 census, but even more information than the earlier ones. All white males and females in the household are counted in age groups that are basically every 10 years. If there are slaves in the household they are counted by gender and somewhat broader age categories. There are some very general categories for occupations and numbers in the household involved in them. I have found that if you know something about the people in the family, you can sometimes take a pretty good guess about who is who. This does give you some information. It will give you a general location for the household, which can be helpful also. As in other census records, there is some variation in how different enumerators filled in the sheets, and there can be errors. I believe some of the errors came from the person in the household who gave the information to the enumerator. If you want to give me a name and location, I would be happy to see what I can find. The good thing is there are far few census pages in 1840, and earlier and the records are pretty easy to transcribe. The first census that listed the name of everyone in the household was 1850. I have seen a lot of these however, where just the initials of the names are listed. Ancestry.com has this census also, and also with an index. These records are very compelling. If you are very lucky, you can document where a person was and who they were living with, for every 10 years of their lives (at least up until 1930). Rick Waggener sequoia@pacbell.net

I just found that out unfortunately Rick. It sure does make things much harder! Thank you for your offer. I guess I'll have to come up with some other idea? Debbie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rick Waggener" <sequoia@pacbell.net> To: <KYJEFFER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, June 22, 2002 1:58 AM Subject: Re: [KYJEFFER] 1840 census > I have access to the 1840 census on-line at ancestry.com. I would be happy > to do any kind of lookup. The 1840 census was not all that helpful. The only > name given is the head of the household. > > Rick Waggener > Walnut Creek, California > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Debbie" <bigdeb28@bellsouth.net> > To: <KYJEFFER-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, June 21, 2002 8:31 PM > Subject: [KYJEFFER] 1840 census > > > > Does anyone have the 1840 census? I have the name and location from the > index, but need a actual look. > > Thanks, > > Debbie > > > > > > ==== KYJEFFER Mailing List ==== > > http://www.usgenweb.org > > Home of the oldest and largest volunteer not-for-profit genealogy > organization on the web. > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > ==== KYJEFFER Mailing List ==== > Submit your information to the Jefferson Co., KY History and Genealogy project. See http://home.ix.netcom.com/~gsdownr/usgw/jefferson1.html for information on how to submit. > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

Does anyone have the 1840 census? I have the name and location from the index, but need a actual look. Thanks, Debbie

I have access to the 1840 census on-line at ancestry.com. I would be happy to do any kind of lookup. The 1840 census was not all that helpful. The only name given is the head of the household. Rick Waggener Walnut Creek, California ----- Original Message ----- From: "Debbie" <bigdeb28@bellsouth.net> To: <KYJEFFER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, June 21, 2002 8:31 PM Subject: [KYJEFFER] 1840 census > Does anyone have the 1840 census? I have the name and location from the index, but need a actual look. > Thanks, > Debbie > > > ==== KYJEFFER Mailing List ==== > http://www.usgenweb.org > Home of the oldest and largest volunteer not-for-profit genealogy organization on the web. > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Hi, Try searching in Indiana. Many couples from Kentucky went over the river to marry. Most because they didn't need parents' approval and there was no waiting period. That's where I found a number of my husband's family marriages. Sincerely, Pat ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kathy McClane" <mrsmac_94@hotmail.com> To: <KYJEFFER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, June 21, 2002 8:39 PM Subject: Re: [KYJEFFER] marriage look up > Here's a question for all you experienced researchers. What's the best way to find marriage information on ancestors? All I have is who was married to who with maiden names, but no dates, no counties. I can only assume they would be in KY since the whole family seemed to stay in the Louisville area from the mid 1800's through the mid 1900's. > > Any help would be appreciated. > > Thanks, > Kathy >

Thanks Pat, Any suggestions on where I would go to search? Is there anything online I could check? Kathy ----- Original Message ----- From: SilverWolf Sent: Friday, June 21, 2002 7:59 PM To: KYJEFFER-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [KYJEFFER] marriage look up Hi, Try searching in Indiana. Many couples from Kentucky went over the river to marry. Most because they didn't need parents' approval and there was no waiting period. That's where I found a number of my husband's family marriages. Sincerely, Pat ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kathy McClane" <mrsmac_94@hotmail.com> To: <KYJEFFER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, June 21, 2002 8:39 PM Subject: Re: [KYJEFFER] marriage look up > Here's a question for all you experienced researchers. What's the best way to find marriage information on ancestors? All I have is who was married to who with maiden names, but no dates, no counties. I can only assume they would be in KY since the whole family seemed to stay in the Louisville area from the mid 1800's through the mid 1900's. > > Any help would be appreciated. > > Thanks, > Kathy > ==== KYJEFFER Mailing List ==== The Jefferson County, KY History and Genealogy page is part of USGenWeb, AHGP and ALHN which are not-for-profit Projects. Visit us at http://home.ix.netcom.com/~gsdownr/usgw/jefferson1.html. ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com

Here's a question for all you experienced researchers. What's the best way to find marriage information on ancestors? All I have is who was married to who with maiden names, but no dates, no counties. I can only assume they would be in KY since the whole family seemed to stay in the Louisville area from the mid 1800's through the mid 1900's. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks, Kathy ----- Original Message ----- From: Robert E. Lynch Sent: Friday, June 21, 2002 12:34 PM To: KYJEFFER-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [KYJEFFER] marriage look up Diane, Could you look on your CD and find a marriage for Wat or Watson Lynch and Ellen Lynch? It would be after 1900. Thanks, Jackie in Jeff City, MO. ==== KYJEFFER Mailing List ==== Submit your information to the Jefferson Co., KY History and Genealogy project. See http://home.ix.netcom.com/~gsdownr/usgw/jefferson1.html for information on how to submit. ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com

Jackie, I am looking for descendants of a Robert E. Lentsch, born 1864; died 1928 in Louisville, KY, was your Lynch family name ever spelled Lentsch? Elisabeth W. Salyer elws@mounet.com

Right names but I don't think the Bettie and Samuel are the right ones. The marriages are too early for their ages. You can have some of FL rain. We are anxious to see the sunshine again. Diane wrote: > I have the Kentucky Vital Records CD - Marriages 1780-1920. I looked up > Bettie Hill: > Bettie Hill married T.M. Peyton on 9-02-1870 in Hopk County, KY > Emma/Emily Hill/John Schoch - nothing found > William Bateman: nothing found > Jennie Hill: nothing found > Samuel Hill married Mariel Beeny in 9-1-1859, Hopk County, KY > Ida Setzer: nothing found > Mollie/Mary Hill: nothing found. > _______________________________ > For Susan: > Dawson Hill: nothing found > _____________________ > > Diane Shaw > in Hot, Humid, St. Louis, MO > Send rain!!! > > > > >>Would some one who has marriage records look up these names for me? >>I would appreciate it. They lived in Louisville, Jefferson Co., KY. >> >>I need the following marriages: >> >>Emma/Emily Hill m John Julius Schoch abt 1890? >>Bettie Hill m Wm C Bateman >>Jennie Hill m ? Clark >>Samuel Hill m Ida M Setzer >>Mollie/Mary?) Hill m ? Floyd bef 1914 >> >>Thanks for the help. Marge >> >>______________________________ >> >> >> > > > > ==== KYJEFFER Mailing List ==== > The Jefferson County, KY History and Genealogy page is part of USGenWeb, AHGP and ALHN which are not-for-profit Projects. Visit us at http://home.ix.netcom.com/~gsdownr/usgw/jefferson1.html. > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > >