Millie, Thank you for the information. I believe the Arnold were raise Catholic, but I know that was after the divorce. Sincerely, Patty Reilly

Thanks, Pat, for clarifying that I had the wrong URL for Louisville, KY obits. I am sorry about the confusion. Diane Shaw St. Louis _________________________________________________ Subject: Re: [KYJEFFER] How to get Louisville church records/Obit database Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2002 15:17:16 -0400 From: "Patrick" <patrick@migrations.org> To: KYJEFFER-L@rootsweb.com I just tried the link. It works, but won't likely be of any use to anybody on this list... unless they are searching for people in Louisville, Stark County, OH. Patrick ----- Original Message ----- From: <Mmissa888@aol.com> To: <KYJEFFER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, July 12, 2002 2:50 PM Subject: Re: [KYJEFFER] How to get Louisville church records/Obit database

I want to thank everyone who responded to my query. Pat and Alan, thanks and I did check out A PLACE IN TIME, a wonderful book for anyone interested in Jefferson Co. neighborhoods. Great photos, including one of the building that aroused my curiosity. I hope to learn more eventually. Thanks to Alex for the info about Tioga Falls. Alex, re: your comment that it is interesting that Pond Settlement was identifiable as late as the 1860's. At that time, Louisville was not a very long city, going north to south. I believe it was the 1870's or early 1880's when what is now called, Old Louisville, became a suburb of Louisville. Today, the city is much larger, even before the pending merger of city and county. I may be wrong here, but I think that in the 1860's, the city may have ended at Broadway. So 10 or 12 miles southward, where the Pond Creek area is, was very rural. What is now termed South Louisville, had a number of small farms even in the 1940's. Some families still had "Out Houses" and got their water from a spigot out on the side of the street. There'd be spigots on the road, perhaps one to a block or some distance apart. The street that I lived on, Euclid, was not paved until the middle or late 1950's. To keep the dust down, the city would send trucks to put a layer of hot tar on the street a couple times a year. Our house did have running water and indoor plumbing, though. I can't imagine how rural the Pond Settlement area might have been. Again, thanks to everyone. Barb T

I have the marriage books called Early Jefferson Co. Marriages July 1781- July 1849 it's from McDowell Publishing Co. and was compiled from the Filson club. << Also, Teddy had a marriage book she used to find the marriage. Maybe Teddy can post what the book was and how to get access to it. >> List Mom for the Grayson Co. KY, Fulkerson, Vertrees, and the Ford List

This has been forwarded from somebody not on the list. Please respond directly to them. Patrick Hays http://home.ix.netcom.com/~gsdownr/usgw/jefferson1.html http://www.migrations.org ----- Original Message ----- From: "User Carpb" <carpb@powercom.net> To: <patrick@migrations.org> Sent: Sunday, July 14, 2002 2:56 PM Subject: Parkhursts in Louisville Hi: I'm trying to locate a death records for William David Parkhurst aka David Parkhurst and Elizabeth nee Lyon Parkhurst aka Eliza Parkhurst. They were residing in Bedford, Trimble Co., KY in October 1875 possibly in the residence of their son-in-law John D. Pope but moved back to Louisville before December 1880 because I've had some indication that Louisville is where Eliza died. They were well-known and respected in the Louisville area. I don't know if David died in Bedford or Louisville but my thinking is that his death happened before Eliza's. I live close to the WI State Archives but they don't have Louisville newspapers around 1840. I found an article in the 29 Oct. 1875 edition of the Courier Journal stating that David Parkhurst returned there after disappearing from Louisville about 35 years before that. The article stated that his disappearance created widespread interest as he was well known and respected in the Louisville community and throughout the state. I'm hoping to locate death records as well as obituaries for these two people in the Louisville and or area papers and archives. Can you help me out or point me in the direction of someone who could do lookups. Thank you, Peg Carpenter

Dear Loretta, You may want to send your request for a search of the Louisville Death Register to: Jefferson County Historic Preservation and Archives 6th Floor, Urban Government Building 810 Barrett Avenue Louisville, Kentucky 40204 The county archives has these on microfilm and can check the index for your Schnetz relatives. The staff will bill you for the copies of any entries found. Send a self-addressed stamped envelope for a speedier reply. Be as specific as possible with names and dates or date range. Do not ask for all of a particular surname. The names are really not arranged alphabetically, rather all surnames of a given letter are listed together. One has to read ALL the "S"s written in the hard to decipher old handwriting to locate the needed entry, then find the page on another roll of film. Some of the index pages are very poor and some entries nearly illegible. One problem with someone doing a search at the Filson: even individuals who pay a $50 annual fee must pay $5 to use the library. While the Louisville Free Public Library does not charge a membership fee, the main library building is located downtown and there is no free parking. Good news!! The Genealogical Society of Utah (LDS) has undertaken an indexing project of the microfilmed Louisville/Jefferson County death registers. The volunteerss are not transcribing each record, just entering data for an index. The index would have name and date of death. My understanding is that once completed, the index would be available on-line through their free website at www.familysearch.org or on a CD. The indexing has just started, so it may be a year or more before the project is completed. Deborah ----- Original Message ----- From: "Loretta Mikolyski" <lmikolyski@hotmail.com> To: <KYJEFFER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, July 13, 2002 10:05 PM Subject: [KYJEFFER] death certificate look-up from library > > > Hi List. > I'm wondering if there's some kind soul who either is a member of the Filson > Club or lives near the Louisville free public library who is willing and > able to search in the Louisville death register. My grgrandmother had two > children between 1884 and 1900 who died before 1900. A Mr. Pen Bogert from > the Filson Club was able to locate a death of a child named Robert Schnetz > from the Cave Hill Cemetery records that was taken from the city death > register. He told me that this city death register is indexed alphabetically > from 1866-1910. Also Mr. Bogert felt that the free public library would have > this register on microfilm. So if someone was able to do this search, I'd be > glad to compensate for copies made of records found and postage. One problem > with these records is that they don't list parents' names, only address of > deceased person. Thank you very much for your help. > Gratefully, Loretta Lee > > _________________________________________________________________ > Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com > > > ==== KYJEFFER Mailing List ==== > http://www.migrations.org > If your information isn't in our database, submit it today! > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

Hi Deborah, Thank you for explaining the difficulties about my request and the offering of a different solution. I'll try the address you gave me. I appreciate your input. This list has some very helpful researchers on it, and I'm thankful to be doing research here among them. Regards, Loretta Lee Dear Loretta, You may want to send your request for a search of the Louisville Death Register to: Jefferson County Historic Preservation and Archives 6th Floor, Urban Government Building 810 Barrett Avenue Louisville, Kentucky 40204 The county archives has these on microfilm and can check the index for your Schnetz relatives. The staff will bill you for the copies of any entries found. Send a self-addressed stamped envelope for a speedier reply. Be as specific as possible with names and dates or date range. Do not ask for all of a particular surname. The names are really not arranged alphabetically, rather all surnames of a given letter are listed together. One has to read ALL the "S"s written in the hard to decipher old handwriting to locate the needed entry, then find the page on another roll of film. Some of the index pages are very poor and some entries nearly illegible. One problem with someone doing a search at the Filson: even individuals who pay a $50 annual fee must pay $5 to use the library. While the Louisville Free Public Library does not charge a membership fee, the main library building is located downtown and there is no free parking. Good news!! The Genealogical Society of Utah (LDS) has undertaken an indexing project of the microfilmed Louisville/Jefferson County death registers. The volunteerss are not transcribing each record, just entering data for an index. The index would have name and date of death. My understanding is that once completed, the index would be available on-line through their free website at www.familysearch.org or on a CD. The indexing has just started, so it may be a year or more before the project is completed. Deborah ----- Original Message ----- From: "Loretta Mikolyski" <lmikolyski@hotmail.com> To: <KYJEFFER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, July 13, 2002 10:05 PM Subject: [KYJEFFER] death certificate look-up from library > > >Hi List. >I'm wondering if there's some kind soul who either is a member of the Filson >Club or lives near the Louisville free public library who is willing and >able to search in the Louisville death register. My grgrandmother had two >children between 1884 and 1900 who died before 1900. A Mr. Pen Bogert from >the Filson Club was able to locate a death of a child named Robert Schnetz >from the Cave Hill Cemetery records that was taken from the city death >register. He told me that this city death register is indexed alphabetically >from 1866-1910. Also Mr. Bogert felt that the free public library would have >this register on microfilm. So if someone was able to do this search, I'd be >glad to compensate for copies made of records found and postage. One problem >with these records is that they don't list parents' names, only address of >deceased person. Thank you very much for your help. >Gratefully, Loretta Lee _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com

Will of Mary (Smock) Clark Written 2/5/1840 Recorded 3/2/1840 Jefferson Co., KY Will Book 3 page 203 Mentions: Husband: Jesse Clark Brother: Mathias Smock Sons: William, Mathias Clark Daughter: Mary Kirlin, wife of Daniel Kirlin Executor: Mathias Smock Witnesses Henry Williams, Christopher Slake

The will of Benjamin SHAKLEFORD Written 4/10/1838 Recorded 12/5/1838 Jefferson Co. KY Will Book 3 page 166 Mentions: Wife: Nancy Shakleford Brothers: Richard, Roderick, George Shakleford Sisters: Elizabeth Clark, Frances Clark Witnesses: Elizabeth and Jesse Pendergrass (Elizabeth Pendergrass is Elizabeth Moore, daughter of James Francis Moore by his first marriage.)

Patty, Do you know the religion of the family? You might try the Kentucky Baptist Home for Children or the St Joseph's Orphan's Home. Millie --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.372 / Virus Database: 207 - Release Date: 6/20/02

Is there someone on this list who would be willing to look for an obit for a non- computer friend of mine who wants to find out about her deceased dad? On the SSDI the dad's brother's last residence was Louisville: Charles N. INABINET d.Dec 21, 2000 Thank you- Nancy Nancy Hart Servin Oakland, CA Originally from Red Hook, NY (upstate, not Brooklyn)

Sorry that I neglected important information on my inquiry. Charles Byerly was born in Kentucky 1854. Died 1923. He was a Blacksmith by trade. He was married to Florence Matthews. She was born in Indiana. Her Father was John W.Matthews/mother Elizabeth Kinsella b. Ireland. Mary (Mae) my greatgrandmother was born Jul.29.1891 Louisville. She died in Illinois 1976 in Chicago the widow Edwin Garfield Lohr also born in Kentucky. Thanks. Patty Reilly

Thanks to all for reading this. I am looking for info on my Louisville ancestors. So far I am having a hard time trying to obtain birth records as the birth years are just a few off of the state archives. When I log onto google I notice that the BYERLY name appears to show up constantly from auto shops to attorneys. Charles Byerly has German heritage. I found him on the 1920 census City of Louisville. At this time my ggrandmother Elizabeth Mary Byerly was already divorced from Lawrence Paul Arnold and living back at home. Her 2 children are not listed with her. One is my grandfather William Arnold who said he was in an orphanage for a while. Mary was 29 at this time. I can't find the children in the ARNOLD family. Does anyone know of any local orphanages?? Mary or Mae as we knew her was one of 10 children. The 1920 census shows they lived at 2100 n. Burmett?? Again, thanks for any help. Sincerely, Patty Reilly

Here's the website for A Place in Time: http://www.courier-journal.com/reweb/community/placetime/placetime.html Sincerely, Pat ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alan Murray" <SSG-Murray@webtv.net> To: <KYJEFFER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, July 13, 2002 9:04 PM Subject: [KYJEFFER] Stage Stop on Dixie > Barb, > > The Building on Dixie you are referring to indeed was a stage stop at > one time. According to the book "A Place in Time" (The story of > Louisville's neighborhoods) It was call Nine Mile House and at one time > had a toll gate there. There was an article published by the courier > Journal many years ago about the house but I can't seem to find a copy > of it. To the best of my memory they mentioned an approximate year they > thought that it had been built but could not verify it.

Barb, The Building on Dixie you are referring to indeed was a stage stop at one time. According to the book "A Place in Time" (The story of Louisville's neighborhoods) It was call Nine Mile House and at one time had a toll gate there. There was an article published by the courier Journal many years ago about the house but I can't seem to find a copy of it. To the best of my memory they mentioned an approximate year they thought that it had been built but could not verify it. ~Alan

Hello all: I am new to this list so need some "direction" - I would like to know where I could find an obituary for a Blanche Liveringhouse who died August 5, 1969 in Jefferson, Kentucky. Is there a site online I could go to - I would like to find out who her husband was and where she is buried. Thank you for any suggestions - Ahlive

Hi List. I'm wondering if there's some kind soul who either is a member of the Filson Club or lives near the Louisville free public library who is willing and able to search in the Louisville death register. My grgrandmother had two children between 1884 and 1900 who died before 1900. A Mr. Pen Bogert from the Filson Club was able to locate a death of a child named Robert Schnetz from the Cave Hill Cemetery records that was taken from the city death register. He told me that this city death register is indexed alphabetically from 1866-1910. Also Mr. Bogert felt that the free public library would have this register on microfilm. So if someone was able to do this search, I'd be glad to compensate for copies made of records found and postage. One problem with these records is that they don't list parents' names, only address of deceased person. Thank you very much for your help. Gratefully, Loretta Lee _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com

I am researching the Litsey family but cannot place the Granville Litsey or Mary Jane Jones. Do you have any other information so I might make a connection? Jim Johnson Smyrna, TN

Does anyone have the actual 1910 census index? I've tried using the one on ancestry and the family I'm looking for is nowhere to be found. I've located them in the 1900 and 1920. Thanks! Debbie

Thanks to ALL who answered my newspaper question. Its truly appreciated! Debbie ----- Original Message ----- From: <SUEM600@aol.com> To: <KYJEFFER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, July 13, 2002 11:36 AM Subject: [KYJEFFER] Paper, please copy > Debbie > > Papers copy obits to other papers because a family member thinks there > is someone in that city who would be interested to learn of the death. An > elderly person may have been active in a church or social organization for > years in one town and then have to go live with an adult child or in a > nursing home in another town. When that person dies, the papers may copy the > newspapers in the where the person first lived because there are friends and > acquaintances there who will be interested to learn of the death. It doesn't > necessarily mean there is still family living in that town. Sometimes papers > will copy a town where the person grew up but has not been there for years. > It really depends upon what the family member requests and how sharp the obit > editor is. > > Su > > > ==== KYJEFFER Mailing List ==== > The Jefferson County, KY History and Genealogy page is part of USGenWeb, ALHN and AHGP which are not-for-profit Projects. Visit us at http://home.ix.netcom.com/~gsdownr/usgw/jefferson1.html. > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >