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Thanks so much Julie.....thats what I "thought" also! Debbie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Julie Barnard" <juliecbarnard@yahoo.com> To: <KYJEFFER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2002 1:34 AM Subject: Re: [KYJEFFER] 1910 census help > > Debbie, > I'm virtually positive the relationship listed for Lisana Jordan is "mother-in-law" > Julie > > > > When I searched for ancestors, I found friends! > > > --------------------------------- > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Autos - Get free new car price quotes > > > ==== KYJEFFER Mailing List ==== > The Jefferson County, KY History and Genealogy page is part of USGenWeb, AHGP and ALHN which are not-for-profit Projects. Visit us at http://home.ix.netcom.com/~gsdownr/usgw/jefferson1.html. > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

Thanks Julie! Its the 1910 IL census, Wabash Co., City of Mt. Carmel (part of Ward 2) ED# 177 ACTUAL page number is 103, ancestry page number is 25. The head of the households last name is DeMuth, Reno F. The last person listed, Lisana Jordan, can you read her relationship? I truly appreciate it!! Debbie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Julie Barnard" <juliecbarnard@yahoo.com> To: <KYJEFFER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2002 1:22 AM Subject: Re: [KYJEFFER] 1910 census help > > I have access on ancestry.com I'll try. > Julie > > Debbie wrote:Does anyone have access to the 1910 census that can verify a relationship to the head of a household for me? I really think my eyes must be going! > Thanks much! > Debbie > > > ==== KYJEFFER Mailing List ==== > http://www.usgenweb.org > Home of the oldest and largest volunteer not-for-profit genealogy organization on the web. > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > When I searched for ancestors, I found friends! > > > --------------------------------- > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Autos - Get free new car price quotes > > > ==== KYJEFFER Mailing List ==== > The Jefferson County, KY History and Genealogy page is part of USGenWeb, AHGP and ALHN which are not-for-profit Projects. Visit us at http://home.ix.netcom.com/~gsdownr/usgw/jefferson1.html. > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

Does anyone have access to the 1910 census that can verify a relationship to the head of a household for me? I really think my eyes must be going! Thanks much! Debbie

Linda, I'm sorry I don't have any answers for you concerning the Shelby Co. marriage record. The court records I was referring to are Circuit Court Case files, i.e. lawsuits. The volunteer crew from the GSU have been coming to Frankfort and working with the staff at the Kentucky State Archives where many of these old law suits are housed in the vaults. The county courts don't send anything to Utah. I do not know the folks who are doing the court case file indexing ... they are a professionally trained group working with the State Archives. According to Scweitzer's "Kentucky Genealogical Research" guide, Shelby County's marriage records begin in 1792 and are available to the present. If the marriage record wasn't found, either it was missed in the marriage register's index or it is not in the county. You may be correct that the marriage took place in another county. You might try a search in Bullitt, Spencer, Jefferson, or even Clark Co., Indiana. As far as the indenture records are concerned . . . they may be with the governor's papers, which may be housed in the state archives in Frankfort. Or some reference to your ancestor's indenture might be found in the Fayette county "court order" records. These are microfilmed and available at the state archives and at LDS. You might want to contact someone at the Kentucky State Archives. http://www.kdla.state.ky.us/ Best of luck to you, Deborah ----- Original Message ----- From: "Linda Antal" <cantal@cinci.rr.com> To: <KYJEFFER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 6:27 PM Subject: Re: [KYJEFFER] Louisville death records "Would this also include marriages?" I have a family Bible where it states my ancestors, Francis Marion Farris & Nettie Ree Hardman, were married in Shelby County, KY 6 JAN 1895, by Rev. Thorpe...and witnessed by W. D. McMary. . . . . .But, since you said the Volunteers of the Genealogical Society of Utah began processing & indexing > .......this tells me that perhaps these records may have been sent to Utah > years ago, and they are indexing them there. . . . . . I am > thinking that perhaps their marriage record could actually be located out in Utah....providing Shelby County, KY sent it to them years ago. However, I have already tried LINEAGES.....which is out in Utah.....and they have people who actually go to the vaults to retrieve information. They also said they could not locate a marriage record for my ancestors. Now, here's > my concern: Did your group just recently get the Shelby County, KY records > indexed? If so.....perhaps I have a chance to locate my ancestors records. > Another thing I feel "might" of happened. I am wondering if maybe my > ancestors were married in a town that borders Shelby County....but is > actually in another county.....and they mistakenly wrote down Shelby County, > KY in their family Bible. It really makes it difficult when I don't know > who to contact next......because I am on disability & can not afford to keep > paying for searches to be done....unless I know the records are there. I > was so certain it would be found in Shelby County....I even have a copy of > the Bible entry. > > ** But something else also intrigues me. Since they are indexing Circuit > Court Case Files.....I am now in the hopes that maybe they might have some > information on an Indenture Servitude that took place between 1813-1820. My > other ancestor, Frederick Lincks, came from Germany & was an Indentured > Servant to the former Governor James Garrard of Lexington...which is in > Fayette County. I am wondering if any records would be there about the > Indenture & also his release from duty. I am sure it has a proper > name....only I don't know it. He worked for both the Governor & his son > Daniel Garrard. > > What do I need to do? > > Thank You! > > Linda Farris Antal - cantal@cinci.rr.com > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "DEBORAH CAMPISANO" <DJCAMPI@worldnet.att.net> > To: <KYJEFFER-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 1:01 PM > Subject: Re: [KYJEFFER] Louisville death records > > > > Sue, > > I'm a member of the Louisville Genealogical Society. A friend with whom I > > correspond frequently is also a member. She is one of the volunteers who > is > > working on the indexing of the records. The project just got underway. > > I did read an interesting article in the latest quarterly of the Kentucky > > Genealogical Society, "Bluegrass Roots". Volunteers from the Genealogical > > Society of Utah began a processing and indexing project of Kentucky's > > Circuit Court Case files. Not only did they index some of them by > > plaintiff/defendant, but microfilmed the actual case files for several > > counties: Madison, Lincoln, Bourbon and Mason. While indexes to the case > > files were available on microfilm, one had to access the actual case files > > at the state archives. The old brittle papers would fall apart in your > > hands! To have the case files available on microfilm is a great boon to > > genealogists and historians everywhere as we will be able to rent the film > > via LDS Family History Libraries and not have to travel to the state > > archives. Libraries and societies will be able to purchase the film and > > make available to their patrons. The project has been underway since 1998 > > and will continue. Some of the earliests records for Woodford and Fayette > > were indexed. > > The article went on to say that work is progessing on records for Boone, > > Christian, and Perry counies. No mention of Jefferson, yet. An > electronic > > database provides an index for the case files for the counties mentioned > > above, plus Anderson, Breathitt, Butler, Henry, Leslie, Lyon, Magoffin, > and > > Shelby counties. > > The index database may one day be available on the KDLA website. > > I'll keep you posted on the Death Register indexing project, but it will > be > > a long time before it is available, I'm sure. > > Deborah > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: <SUEM600@aol.com> > > To: <KYJEFFER-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 12:04 AM > > Subject: [KYJEFFER] Louisville death records > > > > > > > Deborah > > > > > > Thanks for letting us know about the LDS indexing project. I hope > > you > > > will let us know when it is completed. I well remember using the death > > record > > > and found it difficult because it was organized into different "books" > . > > > How do you find out what the LDS is working on ? I'd like to know about > > their > > > upcoming projects. I am hopeful that they will put other census years > in > > a > > > searchable CD like the 1880 census which is wonderful. > > > > > > Sue > > > > > > > > > ==== KYJEFFER Mailing List ==== > > > Submit your information to the Jefferson Co., KY History and Genelaogy > > project. See http://home.ix.netcom.com/~gsdownr/usgw/jefferson1.html for > > information on how to submit. > > > > > > ============================== > > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > records, > > go to: > > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== KYJEFFER Mailing List ==== > > Submit your information to the Jefferson Co., KY History and Genealogy > project. See http://home.ix.netcom.com/~gsdownr/usgw/jefferson1.html for > information on how to submit. > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > ==== KYJEFFER Mailing List ==== > http://www.migrations.org > If your information isn't in our database, submit it today! > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

Still can't find more specific information on the property transfer's- But: This is tantalizing, so I'll post it and keep looking around. It would appear that the McCorkle's were working both sides of the fence- King George III AND The New Republic <GGG>. The McCorkle's: The McCorkle name originated in Scotland, but the name has made many changes over the centuries. In the ninth Century A.D., the Scottish King, Kenneth the Great went to Ireland to assist Alpin, King of the Scots against the Picts. When Kenneth defeated the Picts and the Vikings, he did so with the help of a Danish Prince named Torquil (A.D. 34). Kenneth rewarded Torquil with a land grant near Oban, on Loch Awe, for accomplishing his hazardous mission. Torquil was a descendant of the Thorgisl, mentioned in the Viking Thorgisl Saga about 700 A.D. Torquil's father was named Thorquil (or Thorgesius in Latin) and his grandfather was Thorkill, son of Thurkill, son of Thurkell, son of Thorgisl. Torquil had a son named Mac Torquil, which in Gaelic, means son of Torquil. The land which Torquil received was in what is now County Argyle, Scotland, and the name Mac Torquil is still used in some locations in the Highlands. Over the centuries, in Ireland and Scotland, the name gradually changed from Mac Torquil-dale to Mac Korkill-dale to McCorkindale, then to McCorquindall, McCorkundell, McCorquendill, McCorkell and finally to McCorkle. There are many variations of the name, and by the 17th Century, Alexander McCorquodale or McCorkle, lived with his wife Elizabeth in Argyll, Scotland and had at least two sons, James and William, both of whom emigrated to America through Philadelphia about 1729-1730. James settled near the forks of the Brandywine River and William settled in Virginia Valley. The oldest son, James McCorkle, married Jane Steele about 1720 and had several children before she died about 1729, and James later married Jane Alexander and had several more children, including John and Alexander. The family lived in Augusta, Virginia. Jane Alexander was the daughter of Joseph Alexander and Abigail McKnitt. John McCorkle was born about 1738, probably in Pennsylvania, and married Elizabeth Ruth in 1765 in Augusta, Virginia. Their oldest son, Joseph, was born in February, 1770 in Augusta, Virginia, and he married Hannah Scott in January, 1792 in Bourbon County, Kentucky, where the family had moved. Joseph and Hannah had a son named James McCorkle in 1799, and he grew up in Kentucky and married Ann Young in Fleming County, Kentucky in 1824. Ann was the daughter of James Young and Agnes Nancy Smith. James and Ann had at least seven children, including a daughter named Jane Brown McCorkle, and by the 1850's the family had moved to Rush County, Indiana. While there, Jane married a young farm hand named G. Washington Eagy on Valentines Day, 1855. Their daughter, Mary Jane, was born in November of that year, but complications from the birth caused the death of Jane shortly afte, in Washington County, Iowa, where the family had moved. See Also: < http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Park/2512/PetitionSigners.htm > Mounted Militia? The Preston's ( 'Preston Park' ) Colonel William Preston: < http://www.flash.net/~johnsonl/p7_1_5.htm > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eric & Karen Abston Steed" <kas65@cvip.fresno.com> To: <KYJEFFER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 9:43 PM Subject: [KYJEFFER] The Bellarmine Campus on Newburg Road ..... > The royal land grant from King George III to James McCorkle ......

Debbie, And she listed as "W" under marital status -- for "widow" which would make sense. Julie When I searched for ancestors, I found friends! --------------------------------- Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Autos - Get free new car price quotes

Debbie, I'm virtually positive the relationship listed for Lisana Jordan is "mother-in-law" Julie When I searched for ancestors, I found friends! --------------------------------- Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Autos - Get free new car price quotes

I have access on ancestry.com I'll try. Julie Debbie wrote:Does anyone have access to the 1910 census that can verify a relationship to the head of a household for me? I really think my eyes must be going! Thanks much! Debbie ==== KYJEFFER Mailing List ==== http://www.usgenweb.org Home of the oldest and largest volunteer not-for-profit genealogy organization on the web. ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 When I searched for ancestors, I found friends! --------------------------------- Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Autos - Get free new car price quotes

In the midst of some research bearing on Beargrass Creek, I discovered this: " The Bellarmine campus of today stands on property that was a part of a royal land grant from King George III to James McCorkle for his service in the French and Indian War. When the American Republic was born, the land was retitled by Thomas Jefferson, Governor of Virginia, of which Kentucky was then a part. During the antebellum period, this land was a plantation owned by the Griffin family, who, impoverished by the Civil War, sold the estate to Bishop William George McCloskey for a seminary, Preston Park, which opened in 1871 and lasted, with interruptions, until 1909. During the Civil War, the Griffin estate house served as a military hospital. Old Preston Park also served at times as orphanages staffed by the Sisters of Charity of Nazareth: St. Vincent's for girls (1892-1901) and St. Thomas for boys (1910-1938). " See also < http://www.bardstowntourism.com/tours/religion.htm > 1785 et al .......... Does anyone recall the name of the Convent directly across from Bellarmines Golf Course? Eric '5th Generation Louisvillian'

Deborah, This has nothing to do with death records...but I am wondering about something else. You wrote: "Volunteers from the Genealogical Society of Utah began a processing and indexing project of Kentucky's Circuit Court Case files. Not only did they index some of them by plaintiff/defendant, but microfilmed the actual case files for several counties:" "Would this also include marriages?" I have a family Bible where it states my ancestors, Francis Marion Farris & Nettie Ree Hardman, were married in Shelby County, KY 6 JAN 1895, by Rev. Thorpe...and witnessed by W. D. McMary. I sent to Shelby County, KY because I would like to have a copy of the actual records & application....paid their fee for a search to be done.....only to be told that no record of my ancestor's marriage was found in Shelby County. I am wondering if maybe the folks in Shelby County may have it misfiled or could have lost it somehow. But, since you said the Volunteers of the Genealogical Society of Utah began processing & indexing .......this tells me that perhaps these records may have been sent to Utah years ago, and they are indexing them there. This gives me new hope! I am thinking that perhaps their marriage record could actually be located out in Utah....providing Shelby County, KY sent it to them years ago. However, I have already tried LINEAGES.....which is out in Utah.....and they have people who actually go to the vaults to retrieve information. They also said they could not locate a marriage record for my ancestors. Now, here's my concern: Did your group just recently get the Shelby County, KY records indexed? If so.....perhaps I have a chance to locate my ancestors records. Another thing I feel "might" of happened. I am wondering if maybe my ancestors were married in a town that borders Shelby County....but is actually in another county.....and they mistakenly wrote down Shelby County, KY in their family Bible. It really makes it difficult when I don't know who to contact next......because I am on disability & can not afford to keep paying for searches to be done....unless I know the records are there. I was so certain it would be found in Shelby County....I even have a copy of the Bible entry. ** But something else also intrigues me. Since they are indexing Circuit Court Case Files.....I am now in the hopes that maybe they might have some information on an Indenture Servitude that took place between 1813-1820. My other ancestor, Frederick Lincks, came from Germany & was an Indentured Servant to the former Governor James Garrard of Lexington...which is in Fayette County. I am wondering if any records would be there about the Indenture & also his release from duty. I am sure it has a proper name....only I don't know it. He worked for both the Governor & his son Daniel Garrard. What do I need to do? Thank You! Linda Farris Antal - cantal@cinci.rr.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "DEBORAH CAMPISANO" <DJCAMPI@worldnet.att.net> To: <KYJEFFER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 1:01 PM Subject: Re: [KYJEFFER] Louisville death records > Sue, > I'm a member of the Louisville Genealogical Society. A friend with whom I > correspond frequently is also a member. She is one of the volunteers who is > working on the indexing of the records. The project just got underway. > I did read an interesting article in the latest quarterly of the Kentucky > Genealogical Society, "Bluegrass Roots". Volunteers from the Genealogical > Society of Utah began a processing and indexing project of Kentucky's > Circuit Court Case files. Not only did they index some of them by > plaintiff/defendant, but microfilmed the actual case files for several > counties: Madison, Lincoln, Bourbon and Mason. While indexes to the case > files were available on microfilm, one had to access the actual case files > at the state archives. The old brittle papers would fall apart in your > hands! To have the case files available on microfilm is a great boon to > genealogists and historians everywhere as we will be able to rent the film > via LDS Family History Libraries and not have to travel to the state > archives. Libraries and societies will be able to purchase the film and > make available to their patrons. The project has been underway since 1998 > and will continue. Some of the earliests records for Woodford and Fayette > were indexed. > The article went on to say that work is progessing on records for Boone, > Christian, and Perry counies. No mention of Jefferson, yet. An electronic > database provides an index for the case files for the counties mentioned > above, plus Anderson, Breathitt, Butler, Henry, Leslie, Lyon, Magoffin, and > Shelby counties. > The index database may one day be available on the KDLA website. > I'll keep you posted on the Death Register indexing project, but it will be > a long time before it is available, I'm sure. > Deborah > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <SUEM600@aol.com> > To: <KYJEFFER-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 12:04 AM > Subject: [KYJEFFER] Louisville death records > > > > Deborah > > > > Thanks for letting us know about the LDS indexing project. I hope > you > > will let us know when it is completed. I well remember using the death > record > > and found it difficult because it was organized into different "books" . > > How do you find out what the LDS is working on ? I'd like to know about > their > > upcoming projects. I am hopeful that they will put other census years in > a > > searchable CD like the 1880 census which is wonderful. > > > > Sue > > > > > > ==== KYJEFFER Mailing List ==== > > Submit your information to the Jefferson Co., KY History and Genelaogy > project. See http://home.ix.netcom.com/~gsdownr/usgw/jefferson1.html for > information on how to submit. > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > ==== KYJEFFER Mailing List ==== > Submit your information to the Jefferson Co., KY History and Genealogy project. See http://home.ix.netcom.com/~gsdownr/usgw/jefferson1.html for information on how to submit. > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

It only goes to July, so it is not in my book. SORRY Teddy List Mom for the Grayson Co. KY, Fulkerson, Vertrees, and the Ford List

Hello Could I please have a lookup for a Jefferson County marriage about 1849 between John Gibbons and Margaret Walsh ? Thanks. Sue

Sue, I'm a member of the Louisville Genealogical Society. A friend with whom I correspond frequently is also a member. She is one of the volunteers who is working on the indexing of the records. The project just got underway. I did read an interesting article in the latest quarterly of the Kentucky Genealogical Society, "Bluegrass Roots". Volunteers from the Genealogical Society of Utah began a processing and indexing project of Kentucky's Circuit Court Case files. Not only did they index some of them by plaintiff/defendant, but microfilmed the actual case files for several counties: Madison, Lincoln, Bourbon and Mason. While indexes to the case files were available on microfilm, one had to access the actual case files at the state archives. The old brittle papers would fall apart in your hands! To have the case files available on microfilm is a great boon to genealogists and historians everywhere as we will be able to rent the film via LDS Family History Libraries and not have to travel to the state archives. Libraries and societies will be able to purchase the film and make available to their patrons. The project has been underway since 1998 and will continue. Some of the earliests records for Woodford and Fayette were indexed. The article went on to say that work is progessing on records for Boone, Christian, and Perry counies. No mention of Jefferson, yet. An electronic database provides an index for the case files for the counties mentioned above, plus Anderson, Breathitt, Butler, Henry, Leslie, Lyon, Magoffin, and Shelby counties. The index database may one day be available on the KDLA website. I'll keep you posted on the Death Register indexing project, but it will be a long time before it is available, I'm sure. Deborah ----- Original Message ----- From: <SUEM600@aol.com> To: <KYJEFFER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 12:04 AM Subject: [KYJEFFER] Louisville death records > Deborah > > Thanks for letting us know about the LDS indexing project. I hope you > will let us know when it is completed. I well remember using the death record > and found it difficult because it was organized into different "books" . > How do you find out what the LDS is working on ? I'd like to know about their > upcoming projects. I am hopeful that they will put other census years in a > searchable CD like the 1880 census which is wonderful. > > Sue > > > ==== KYJEFFER Mailing List ==== > Submit your information to the Jefferson Co., KY History and Genelaogy project. See http://home.ix.netcom.com/~gsdownr/usgw/jefferson1.html for information on how to submit. > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

Kathy, Thanks for the response. As far as I can go back as yet, Byerly & Bierly, Bierlay, is what I am finding. Florence Matthews Byerly wife of Charles Byerly, was born in Indiana though. Their 10 children all born in Louisville. Since I haven't found their marriage record in Jefferson County, I am assuming they were married in Indiana. Sincerely, Patty P>S> Something I have learned finding my dads grandfathers roots in Germany back to 1505, is that once they get to America, their names are transcribed by strangers..many end up keeping this newly formed surname.

It was about 1874 that my ggf, Adam Sebastian, a Bavarian immigrant, had a farm on Bardstown Road near where Baxter Ave. intersects. Actually, he had a grocery there and he stocked it from his farm behind his residence/grocery. Tom of Louisville ----- Original Message ----- From: <keenebj@juno.com> To: <KYJEFFER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, July 14, 2002 6:42 PM Subject: [KYJEFFER] Thanks re: Pond Creek Settlement in SW Jefferson Co.KY > I want to thank everyone who responded to my query. Pat and Alan, > thanks and I did check out A PLACE IN TIME, a wonderful book for anyone > interested in Jefferson Co. neighborhoods. Great photos, including one > of the building that aroused my curiosity. I hope to learn more > eventually. Thanks to Alex for the info about Tioga Falls. > Alex, re: your comment that it is interesting that Pond Settlement was > identifiable as late as the 1860's. At that time, Louisville was not a > very long city, going north to south. I believe it was the 1870's or > early 1880's when > what is now called, Old Louisville, became a suburb of Louisville. > Today, the city is much larger, even before the pending merger of city > and county. I may be wrong here, but I think that in the 1860's, the > city may have ended at Broadway. So 10 or 12 miles southward, where the > Pond Creek area is, was very rural. What is now termed South Louisville, > had a number of small farms even in the 1940's. Some families still had > "Out Houses" and got their water from a spigot out on the side of the > street. There'd be spigots on the road, perhaps one to a block or some > distance apart. The street that I lived on, Euclid, was not paved until > the middle or late 1950's. To keep the dust down, the city would send > trucks to put a layer of hot tar on the street a couple times a year. > Our house did have running water and indoor plumbing, though. I can't > imagine how rural the Pond Settlement area might have been. > > Again, thanks to everyone. > Barb T > > > ==== KYJEFFER Mailing List ==== > http://www.usgenweb.org > Home of the oldest and largest volunteer not-for-profit genealogy organization on the web. > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

You need to give us something other than a name, how about a birthdate, or color. I have Litsey from Grayson Co. KY, but he died, and the mother married a Middelton, and that was my Grandmother Nancy Elizabeth (Middelton) Bruner << I am researching the Litsey family but cannot place the Granville Litsey or Mary Jane Jones. Do you have any other information so I might make a connection? Jim Johnson Smyrna, TN >> List Mom for the Grayson Co. KY, Fulkerson, Vertrees, and the Ford List

Hi Patty, just curious, has your Byerly ever been spelled Byarley? My Grandfather was Henderson Byarley of Linton, Indiana. There is a site somewhere on the net that lists his heritage back to Germany, I think, but it may be my Grandmother's line....I haven't been to it for quite a while and tried to find it again when I saw your post. Just wondered if we might be related. :) Kathy ----- Original Message ----- From: Theoldbird56@aol.com Sent: Saturday, July 13, 2002 11:36 PM To: KYJEFFER-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [KYJEFFER] Re:Byerly/Arnold Surnames Sorry that I neglected important information on my inquiry. Charles Byerly was born in Kentucky 1854. Died 1923. He was a Blacksmith by trade. He was married to Florence Matthews. She was born in Indiana. Her Father was John W.Matthews/mother Elizabeth Kinsella b. Ireland. Mary (Mae) my greatgrandmother was born Jul.29.1891 Louisville. She died in Illinois 1976 in Chicago the widow Edwin Garfield Lohr also born in Kentucky. Thanks. Patty Reilly ==== KYJEFFER Mailing List ==== http://www.migrations.org If your information isn't in our database, submit it today! ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com

Deborah Thanks for letting us know about the LDS indexing project. I hope you will let us know when it is completed. I well remember using the death record and found it difficult because it was organized into different "books" . How do you find out what the LDS is working on ? I'd like to know about their upcoming projects. I am hopeful that they will put other census years in a searchable CD like the 1880 census which is wonderful. Sue

At the corner of Summit Avenue ( Dahlia Drive ) and Eastern Parkway Under and behind what is now the Medical Arts Building was what we all just called 'The Farm' running all the way down the hill past Hawthorne Hill and past Bates Court to Castlewood Dell and beyond, almost to Ellison Avenue ........ For that matter, Beargrass Creek was heavily wooded from there almost all the way to and through the Cherokee Park System with several old Plantations and a Track ( Horses ) or two over near Belamine College and the Convent nearby ( Sorry- Can't remember the name of that Convent at the moment, but at least three generations of kid's in that area of the Highlands explored those woods over the years- Mine perhaps being the last of them .......... The Caldwell* House on Bates Court was a stop on the underground railroad during the Civil War .......At that time the next house 'down' was the only one one Castlewood Dell with a little spring and stream running into Beargrass Creek ......... *I don't think the Caldwells owned that house originally, but then they also bought ( and sold ) Conrad Castle ( 2 Saint James Court ) from my Great-Grandfather Theophile Conrad's Estate when he passed in 1905. Eric '5th Generation Louisvillian' ----- Original Message ----- From: <keenebj@juno.com> To: <KYJEFFER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, July 14, 2002 6:42 PM Subject: [KYJEFFER]Pond Creek Settlement > What is now termed South Louisville, > had a number of small farms .......