Hi List, question, Is anyone out there willing and/or able to do a birth cert. lookup? If so, please email me and I will give particulars. Thanks a bunch. Melissa Murray West Palm Beach, FL

Many thanks to all her answered back with information. I will followup on it. Much appreciated. Marilyn ----- Original Message ----- From: Marilyn Follo <mfollo@jps.net> To: <KYJEFFER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2002 9:53 AM Subject: [KYJEFFER] re 1880 lookup > I live out of state and would appreciate an 1880 look up on my greatgrgrandparents. > > Henry Bittle(sometimes spelled Bettle or Bittel) born bout 1850-1860, Married Elizabeth Mikuowec (or Mukowec) Jefferson County. > Not sure if they were married by 1880 or 1881 > > Also do you see the name Mukuowec or Mikuowec in Jefferson County as father of Elizabeth Bittle. Know her ;mothers's maiden name was Elizabeth Delehonty or Delehont. > > Many thanks for any one who can help. Marilyn > > > ==== KYJEFFER Mailing List ==== > http://www.alhn.org and http://www.ahgp.org > Go here for additional American History resources. > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

Thank you! Susan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Patrick" <patrick@migrations.org> To: <KYJEFFER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, September 13, 2002 6:23 PM Subject: [KYJEFFER] Jefferson Co. updates > I have done some minor updates and additions to the Jefferson Co. page > recently. Since so many people seem to miss that Louisville is part of > Jefferson county (not sure how!), I have renemed it the "Louisville and > Jefferson County History and Genealogy Page". There have been links added > to the 1873 and 1917 maps of Louisville as well as the Jefferson County > general highway map from 1999. And also some other map links to cool stuff. > I just finished transcribing a newspaper article about Bloody Monday (August > 6, 1855, election riots). You think Florida is bad (well, Florida is > bad...), then read this! And best of all, I am testing a couple of search > engines on the site to see which does a better job, so there is both a > Picosearch and a Freefind on there right now (might add Atomz too if I have > time to work on it). I'll cut it back to 1 at a later date. Please keep in > mind that building the search engines up may take a couple of days. > > Patrick > > > ==== KYJEFFER Mailing List ==== > http://www.migrations.org/migentry.php3 > If your information isn't in our database, submit it NOW! > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

I live out of state and would appreciate an 1880 look up on my greatgrgrandparents. Henry Bittle(sometimes spelled Bettle or Bittel) born bout 1850-1860, Married Elizabeth Mikuowec (or Mukowec) Jefferson County. Not sure if they were married by 1880 or 1881 Also do you see the name Mukuowec or Mikuowec in Jefferson County as father of Elizabeth Bittle. Know her ;mothers's maiden name was Elizabeth Delehonty or Delehont. Many thanks for any one who can help. Marilyn

I am helping someone in Germany locate relatives that immigrated to Louisville in the 1850's, and eventually settled in Jeffersontown. Does anyone recognize the following family from the 1880 Census? It is possible that Catherine Walker may have been a HUMMEL. Census Place: Distirct 91, Jeffersontown, Jefferson, Kentucky Source: FHL Film 1254421 National Archives Film T9-0421 Page 91A Relation Sex Marr Race Age Birthplace Catharine WALKER Self F W W 49 WIRTENBERG Fa: WIRT Mo: WIRT Michael S. WALKER Son M S W 26 IN Occ: Works On Farm Fa: WIRT Mo: WIRT Charles H. WALKER Son M S W 17 KY Occ: Works On Farm Fa: WIRT Mo: WIRT William M. WALKER Son M S W 14 KY Occ: Works On Farm Fa: WIRT Mo: WIRT Edward D. WALKER Son M S W 12 KY Fa: WIRT Mo: WIRT Jacob W. S. WALKER Son M M W 25 KY Occ: Farm Laborer Fa: WIRT Mo: WIRT Annie M. WALKER DauL F M W 22 OH Occ: Helps In House Fa: IRE Mo: IRE Catharine J. WALKER Dau F S W 11M KY Fa: KY Mo: OH

Teddy: Thanks for the information. I thought the bond was probably when they got the license, but I didn't know the bondsman was the one who paid for it. Was it common for someone other than the couple to pay for the license? I write all my dates "day month year" in my genealogy work. I have found a number of errors in people's work where they reversed the day and month so I always like to be sure. 1859 Louisville Directory has on page 192 Richy, Jean B fancy good self employed; and again on page 276 under Fancy Goods, Toys 427 Market Street This is what I find in the 1860 census J B Richy 60 M Fancy Store France Pauline Richy 49 F France Charles Richy 20 M KY Amidde 14 M KY Adele Buler 28 F Saleswoman France I have not found them in the 1870 Census, but the name may be wrong. In 1850 they lived in District 3, in 1860 in Ward 5, by 1890 the address was 2424 Portland Ave which was in the 12th Ward in 1900. It takes a long time to go through the entire census for Louisville on Ancestry.com. Perhaps he could be found in the 1870 Louisville City Directory, but I do not currently have access to that book. Family information say JB Richy died in 1875. May well have been living with one of the children. Possibly with the daughter Louise, but I do not know who she married. She was living at home in 1850 but not in 1860. Is there a place to check marriage records between 1850 and 1860? I had the 1880 Census information. The listing for Amegie A. Richy is Amedee Augusta son of JB Richy. The nephew John B listed is JB's grandson, son of Charles Nicholas Richy who died in 1869 when John B was 6 yrs. old. Thanks again, Mary Fran Tdeford6@cs.com wrote: > A bond is when they get the license, and the person who is the > bondsman is the one who paid the $ it took to get married, the > 2/3/1848 is 3 Feb 1848, when they are written in the records in that > way I just don't fix them like I did this time for you. I have the > 1870 Ky census Index, and the 1880 all of the States census. they are > not in the 1880 KY census, but you ned to find them in the 1860 and > 1870 census to make sure they are still in KY. this is all I cam find. > > Name: Richey, John Year: 1870 > County: FULTON CO. State: KY > Page: 257 Location: HICKMAN CITY > > Name: Richey, John S. Year: 1870 > County: BARREN CO. State: KY > Page: 682 Location: ROCKY HILL PCT. > > > Teddy > > >> > Richie, John Bond G. Tranchant >> > Labro, pauline Lawful age proven by G. Tranchant >> > bond was 2/3/1848, no marriage date >> Census Place: Louisville, Jefferson, Kentucky >> Source: FHL Film 1254424 National Archives Film T9-0424 Page >> 292A >> Relation Sex Marr Race Age Birthplace >> Amegie A. RICHY Self M M W 34 KY Express Clerk Fa: FRANCE Mo: FRANCE >> >> Carrie RICHY Wife F M W 33 IND Keeping House Fa: KY Mo: PENN >> Charles W. RICHY Son M S W 13 KY At School Fa: KY Mo: IND >> Amegie L. RICHY Son M S W 10 KY At School Fa: KY Mo: IND >> Pauline E. RICHY Dau F S W 8 KY At School Fa: KY Mo: IND >> John B. RICHY Nephew M S W 17 KY Photographer Fa: KY Mo: GERMANY > > > > > List Mom for the Grayson Co. KY, Fulkerson, Vertrees, and the Ford > List

Pat Settle wrote: > Charlotte, > > You've heard of the Masons? They're a fraternal organization that is worldwide. Here's what "The Louisville Encyclopedia" says about the Masonic Home: > > "On November 23, 1866, a group of Free and Accepted Masons (F&AM) met at the Masonic Temple in Louisville to discuss the idea of providing a widows' and orphans' home and an informary. The charter for the incorporation of the Masonic Widows' and Orphans' Home was granted by the Kentucky legislature in January 1867. The cornerstone for the home was laid in 1869, and the first resident was admited in April 1871. The original home was erected on Second St. at the corner of "A" St. (Gaulbert Ave.) and "B" St. (Bloom Ave.). The home primarily provided care for orphans of Kentucky FREEMASONS but also was home to many elderly Masonic widows." > > The Masonic Home is now on Frankfort Ave. in St. Matthews (a city within Louisville). I visited there a few years ago and met a distant cousin who was a resident of the home. He was 98 years old at the time, and had been there for many years. > > Good luck in your search. > Pat > "Clark, Charlotte A (RBI-US)" wrote:thanx so much Pat!!! i can't believe u found her. i guess the boys had "run > away" by then. they wound up in Calif, as did Hazel eventually. i am in > touch with Margaret's direct line and i'm copying her with this info. (hi > carla. what do u think? > this sure sounds like "our" Hazel.) > don't know what masonic widows means? sorry to be so "green" but would this > be a religious facility? i think Maggie Clark Salyers was Baptist. > again, thanx so very, very much for your help and info! > charlotte > > --------------------------------- > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! News - Today's headlines > > ==== KYJEFFER Mailing List ==== > http://www.alhn.org and http://www.ahgp.org > Go here for additional American History resources. > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > My husband and I along with a 3 piece combo entertain 2 or 3 times a year at one of the resident homes on the property. Our group's name is "The Kraft Music Hall with Bing Crosby and Friends". The people love hearing a live performance of the songs they are familiar with. A few have been known to do a little dancing in the aisles. Janis

Janis, That sounds like my kinda music. It's a great thing you and your group are doing. Keep up the good work! Pat Settle Janis Fowler wrote: > My husband and I along with a 3 piece combo entertain 2 or 3 times a year at one of the resident homes on the property. Our group's name is "The Kraft Music Hall with Bing Crosby and Friends". The people love hearing a live performance of the songs they are familiar with. A few have been known to do a little dancing in the aisles. Janis --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! News - Today's headlines

thanx pat... i will add this to my archives... and thanx for the enlightenment!!! i have learned more on the lists that i ever thot of... God bless, charlotte -----Original Message----- From: Pat Settle [mailto:psettle@yahoo.com] Sent: Sunday, September 15, 2002 5:59 PM To: KYJEFFER-L@rootsweb.com Subject: RE: [KYJEFFER] Jefferson County, Louisville Orphanages Charlotte, You've heard of the Masons? They're a fraternal organization that is worldwide. Here's what "The Louisville Encyclopedia" says about the Masonic Home: "On November 23, 1866, a group of Free and Accepted Masons (F&AM) met at the Masonic Temple in Louisville to discuss the idea of providing a widows' and orphans' home and an informary. The charter for the incorporation of the Masonic Widows' and Orphans' Home was granted by the Kentucky legislature in January 1867. The cornerstone for the home was laid in 1869, and the first resident was admited in April 1871. The original home was erected on Second St. at the corner of "A" St. (Gaulbert Ave.) and "B" St. (Bloom Ave.). The home primarily provided care for orphans of Kentucky FREEMASONS but also was home to many elderly Masonic widows." The Masonic Home is now on Frankfort Ave. in St. Matthews (a city within Louisville). I visited there a few years ago and met a distant cousin who was a resident of the home. He was 98 years old at the time, and had been there for many years. Good luck in your search. Pat "Clark, Charlotte A (RBI-US)" wrote:thanx so much Pat!!! i can't believe u found her. i guess the boys had "run away" by then. they wound up in Calif, as did Hazel eventually. i am in touch with Margaret's direct line and i'm copying her with this info. (hi carla. what do u think? this sure sounds like "our" Hazel.) don't know what masonic widows means? sorry to be so "green" but would this be a religious facility? i think Maggie Clark Salyers was Baptist. again, thanx so very, very much for your help and info! charlotte --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! News - Today's headlines ==== KYJEFFER Mailing List ==== http://www.alhn.org and http://www.ahgp.org Go here for additional American History resources. ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

Charlotte, You've heard of the Masons? They're a fraternal organization that is worldwide. Here's what "The Louisville Encyclopedia" says about the Masonic Home: "On November 23, 1866, a group of Free and Accepted Masons (F&AM) met at the Masonic Temple in Louisville to discuss the idea of providing a widows' and orphans' home and an informary. The charter for the incorporation of the Masonic Widows' and Orphans' Home was granted by the Kentucky legislature in January 1867. The cornerstone for the home was laid in 1869, and the first resident was admited in April 1871. The original home was erected on Second St. at the corner of "A" St. (Gaulbert Ave.) and "B" St. (Bloom Ave.). The home primarily provided care for orphans of Kentucky FREEMASONS but also was home to many elderly Masonic widows." The Masonic Home is now on Frankfort Ave. in St. Matthews (a city within Louisville). I visited there a few years ago and met a distant cousin who was a resident of the home. He was 98 years old at the time, and had been there for many years. Good luck in your search. Pat "Clark, Charlotte A (RBI-US)" wrote:thanx so much Pat!!! i can't believe u found her. i guess the boys had "run away" by then. they wound up in Calif, as did Hazel eventually. i am in touch with Margaret's direct line and i'm copying her with this info. (hi carla. what do u think? this sure sounds like "our" Hazel.) don't know what masonic widows means? sorry to be so "green" but would this be a religious facility? i think Maggie Clark Salyers was Baptist. again, thanx so very, very much for your help and info! charlotte --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! News - Today's headlines

thanx so much Pat!!! i can't believe u found her. i guess the boys had "run away" by then. they wound up in Calif, as did Hazel eventually. i am in touch with Margaret's direct line and i'm copying her with this info. (hi carla. what do u think? this sure sounds like "our" Hazel.) don't know what masonic widows means? sorry to be so "green" but would this be a religious facility? i think Maggie Clark Salyers was Baptist. again, thanx so very, very much for your help and info! charlotte -----Original Message----- From: Pat Settle [mailto:psettle@yahoo.com] Sent: Sunday, September 15, 2002 3:34 PM To: KYJEFFER-L@rootsweb.com Subject: RE: [KYJEFFER] Jefferson County, Louisville Orphanages Charlotte, I found a Hazel SALYERS, Female, White, age 8, b. KY, parents b. U.S. living at the Masonic Widows and Orphans Home on S. Second Street, in the 1910 Louisville Census. Enumeration District 124, Precinct 39, Visit 219. There were several pages of inmates of the Home, but Hazel was the only SALYERS I found. Hope she's one of yours. Pat Settle "Clark, Charlotte A (RBI-US)" wrote:i am interested any info re: orphanages in KY. we're trying to find where my Salyers cousins were placed after 1907. charlotte clark --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! News - Today's headlines ==== KYJEFFER Mailing List ==== The Jefferson County, KY History and Genealogy page is part of USGenWeb, AHGP and ALHN which are not-for-profit Projects. Visit us at http://home.ix.netcom.com/~gsdownr/usgw/jefferson1.html. ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

hi teddy and list, just dug this out of my archives...here's what i have for the Salyers children. Logan and Margaret Clark SALYERS children: Egbert Salyers born April 1893, Roy Salyers born Aug. 1894 and Hazel Salyers was listed in 1910 miracode census as an "inmate" under the supervision of a Thomas Adams (supervisor). Hazel was 8 years old at the time, born ca. 1902. There are a total of 219 children under Adams & his wife, none of which were born to him. this was in listed in Louisville, KY, Jefferson Co. and, "we" thot that they were all placed in orphanage after 1902. (that is the death date i have for my GAunt, Margaret Clark Salyers.) but then, i found a 1907 news clip from Laurel Co. that had Hazel Salyers mentioned with her "parents" as visiting the Mart Hicks family. Margaret's death is deff 1902, so i don't know if Logan remarried after she died and this reference is for Hazel's step-mother or if Maragret's death was 1907 or what! (it's all so confusing!!!)

Charlotte, I found a Hazel SALYERS, Female, White, age 8, b. KY, parents b. U.S. living at the Masonic Widows and Orphans Home on S. Second Street, in the 1910 Louisville Census. Enumeration District 124, Precinct 39, Visit 219. There were several pages of inmates of the Home, but Hazel was the only SALYERS I found. Hope she's one of yours. Pat Settle "Clark, Charlotte A (RBI-US)" wrote:i am interested any info re: orphanages in KY. we're trying to find where my Salyers cousins were placed after 1907. charlotte clark --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! News - Today's headlines

P.S. Roy Egbert Salyers & Hazel Salyers... both born in Laurel and/o Rockcastle cos. KY... i have their birthdates in another file. were children listed by surnames/age/name/parents names ? thanx so much teddy. charlotte clark -----Original Message----- From: Teddy Ronan [mailto:tronan@sccoast.net] Sent: Sunday, September 15, 2002 4:58 AM To: KYJEFFER-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [KYJEFFER] Jefferson County, Louisville Orpanages Someone on this list was looking for names of Orpanages in Louisville. May I also mention 'The Industrial School of Reform'. This was not a 'bad' boys school, but more of an orpanage. My dad was placed there after his father died and mother became ill. There was no one to care for him and he spent several years there. I have a little information on the school itself if anyone is interested. I also have one single page of names of children there in 1913. ==== KYJEFFER Mailing List ==== The Jefferson County, KY History and Genealogy page is part of USGenWeb, AHGP and ALHN which are not-for-profit Projects. Visit us at http://home.ix.netcom.com/~gsdownr/usgw/jefferson1.html. ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

thanx so much teddy. i am interested any info re: orphanages in KY. we're trying to find where my Salyers cousins were placed after 1907. charlotte clark -----Original Message----- From: Teddy Ronan [mailto:tronan@sccoast.net] Sent: Sunday, September 15, 2002 4:58 AM To: KYJEFFER-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [KYJEFFER] Jefferson County, Louisville Orpanages Someone on this list was looking for names of Orpanages in Louisville. May I also mention 'The Industrial School of Reform'. This was not a 'bad' boys school, but more of an orpanage. My dad was placed there after his father died and mother became ill. There was no one to care for him and he spent several years there. I have a little information on the school itself if anyone is interested. I also have one single page of names of children there in 1913. ==== KYJEFFER Mailing List ==== The Jefferson County, KY History and Genealogy page is part of USGenWeb, AHGP and ALHN which are not-for-profit Projects. Visit us at http://home.ix.netcom.com/~gsdownr/usgw/jefferson1.html. ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

Someone on this list was looking for names of Orpanages in Louisville. May I also mention 'The Industrial School of Reform'. This was not a 'bad' boys school, but more of an orpanage. My dad was placed there after his father died and mother became ill. There was no one to care for him and he spent several years there. I have a little information on the school itself if anyone is interested. I also have one single page of names of children there in 1913.

The following items were posted in "Missing Links" from Rootsweb this morning. Thought someone on this list might be interested: o I have two obituaries that are not of my ancestors and would like to see them in the hands of their descendants. -- Gertrude E. MILLER, born circa 1890, Jefferson County, Kentucky and died in April 1976 at Tacoma, Washington. Survivors: son Peter C. MILLER of Tacoma, and two sisters, Mrs. Mabelle COULTER of Santa Barbara, California, and Virginia VANCE of Jeffersontown, Kentucky. -- Mrs. Augusta MILLER, born 1855 Germany, died February 1936 at Tacoma, Wahington. Survivors: husband Fred MILLER, sons William MILLER, Carl MILLER, Ernest MILLER, and six daughters, Ida FINCH, Minnie RENSCHLER, Emily IRISH, Anna HEALD, Gussie MC FARLANE, and Bertha POLEN. Jeannette Miller Wynne cyber.nana@verizon.net o My mother has a family Bible that she rescued. We have no interest in this Bible except to return it to a member of the family from which it originated, seeking only cost of postage to mail. It is in somewhat tattered but readable condition. Face page includes a poem signed by A. A. WHITMORE, Louisville, Kentucky, dated 9 September 1879. Dates listed are between 1839 and 1899. Dates for the following are listed: Marriages: Leanna WATKINS m. R. C. RANSOM; Addie Line WATKINS m. D. COOK; Nancy E. SMITH m. W. P. WATKINS Births: Mary A. STRIDAR; Leanna WATKINS; Addia Line WATKINS; Mary WATKINS; William P. WATKINS; George W. WATKINS; Dallas H. WATKINS; Thomas WATKINS; B. Wayman WATKINS; Wilbert Byron WATKINS; Harrold G. RANSOM; Pearl Lenna COOK Deaths: Thomas WATKINS; Wilbert Byron WATKINS; Dallas H. WATKINS; Mrs. Leah STRIDAR (mother). I have copies of the pages; my mother has the original and I will coordinate with her. L. Niesen hilltop@ak.net --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! News - Today's headlines

> Subject: [KYJEFFER] Re: [KYJEFFER Riche- Labro 1781-1849 > Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2002 11:16:19 EDT > From: Tdeford6@cs.com > To: KYJEFFER-L@rootsweb.com > > Richie, John Bond G. Tranchant > Labro, pauline Lawful age proven by G. Tranchant > bond was 2/3/1848, no marriage date > I thought this information was going to be very helpful and I am sure it will be, but for now it is very confusing. What exactly is a bond? Is the date Feb 3 or Mar 2, 1848? Now for the real confusing part. All the children of J B Richy and Pauline Labro were born prior to 1848. It is of course possible she was a second wife. 1850 Census shows the following J B Richy 52 M France Pauline 40 F France Louisa 14 F Deleware Charles 10 M Kentucky Amedee 4 M Kentucky Adale Bonville 21 F France 1840 Census shows John B Richey with 1 male under 5 (Charles) 1 male 40 to 50 (JB) 1 female under 5 (Louisa) 2 female 20 to 30 (Pauline and someone else like the Adale Bonville?) Amedee Augusta Richy's death certificate in 1912 lists his mother as Pauline Labro. Does anyone have any ideas on how to proceed in sorting this out? Thanks in advance, Mary Fran

For those on list who live in the Louisville area or will be visiting soon, the Louisville Genealogical Society is sponsoring a Family History Fair and Seminar on Saturday, 21 September, at Westport Road Baptist Church Family Life Center (Westport Road & Hurstbourne Prkway). Doors open at 8:30. Nationally known speaker, Patricia Hatcher, will present three lectures for intermediate and advanced researchers. 9 free classes for beginners will also be offered: Census, court records, cemetery, internet genealogy, Irish/Scots-Irish research, etc. are some of the topics. Admission is $5.00. Representatives from local libraries, historical societies and archives will have information tables in the vendor area. Vendors, such as Ye Old Genealogy Shoppe, McDowell Publications (sell lots of Jefferson County books!) will be there with books, CDs, maps, charts, etc. For more details on the the Fair, go to the LGS web site: www.rootsweb.com/~kylgs Click on Seminar. Hope to see some of you there! Come for a while or stay all day. You do not have to pre-register. Deborah

What is the URL for the Jefferson County/Louisville Board?