Alan........... How did you do that? I've been looking for him for years!!!!!!! I'm sure thats him but I cant understand why his daughters, my aunts, denied they knew where he was buried. I noticed back in 1958 when his wife was buried at Cave Hill there was and unmarked plot next to her's. I was in Louis. at Cave Hill in June 2000 and noticed it was still unmarked and began to wonder them if it could possible be him...... Thank you so very much. I'm going to call the cemetery right now and see if they can give me any more info. I have the plot location of my grandmothers grave and I bet thats him right next to her. I really cant thank you enough. I just discovered the Jeff. mailing list and I must say I'm really impressed with it. I have the 1880 Census on disc and if I can look up anything for you I'll be glad to. Did I mention Peter died in Cin. Ohio on 25 Feb,1912 and his body was removed to Lou according to his D.C but his family and mine never talked about him and certainly never said he was at Cave Hill..... Another mystery. I just called the cemetery and they gave me the location of his grave. He's not in the same section with my grandmother after all....but he's there!!!! Sorry to babble on so but this is so wonderful....... I live in Va and probably wont have the opportunity to visit Lou. in the future. thanks again, Jane t On Fri, 27 Sep 2002 12:31:23 -0400 (EDT) SSG-Murray@webtv.net (Alan Murray) writes: > There is a Peter Wernz who was buried in Cave Hill Cemetery on 28 > February 1912. > > ~Alan > > > ==== KYJEFFER Mailing List ==== > Submit your information to the Jefferson Co., KY History and > Genealogy project. See > http://home.ix.netcom.com/~gsdownr/usgw/jefferson1.html for > information on how to submit. > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/.

There is a Peter Wernz who was buried in Cave Hill Cemetery on 28 February 1912. ~Alan

Have they cleaned the cemetery up any ?? I am surprised that J-town has such a great looking town and yet they haven't seen that the old cemetery isn't well taken care of. I have ancesters buried there and have visited it numerous times when I've been in Ky. Lucy ----- Original Message ----- From: <CatMom1@aol.com> To: <KYJEFFER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2002 10:02 PM Subject: [KYJEFFER] Hoke Burials > I was in J-town today looking at the old cemetery that surrounds the building > where the Thoroughbred Chorus rehearses. Just about the whole back row is > HOKEs. From what I understand, the graves on the left of the building are > Lutheran, and those on the right are Presbyterian. The location is on > Watterson Trail, just before you get to the J-town Library. > > Regards, > Alex > > > ==== KYJEFFER Mailing List ==== > Submit your information to the Jefferson Co., KY History and Genelaogy project. See http://home.ix.netcom.com/~gsdownr/usgw/jefferson1.html for information on how to submit. > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

On Thu, 26 Sep 2002 09:57:09 -0400 Jane C Connor <smallchangec@juno.com> writes: > Hi Alex, I am searching for my elusive Lutheran Grandfather,Peter > Wernz, > and at this point am leaving no stone unturned. Could you send me > more > info about this cemetery so I can, perhaps, find out if he might be > buried there. He lived in Louisville. Thanks, Jane > On Wed, 25 Sep 2002 23:02:53 EDT CatMom1@aol.com writes: > > I was in J-town today looking at the old cemetery that surrounds > the > > building > > where the Thoroughbred Chorus rehearses. Just about the whole > back > > row is > > HOKEs. From what I understand, the graves on the left of the > > building are > > Lutheran, and those on the right are Presbyterian. The location > is > > on > > Watterson Trail, just before you get to the J-town Library. > > > > Regards, > > Alex > > > > > > ==== KYJEFFER Mailing List ==== > > Submit your information to the Jefferson Co., KY History and > > Genelaogy project. See > > http://home.ix.netcom.com/~gsdownr/usgw/jefferson1.html for > > information on how to submit. > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > > records, go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________ > GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! > Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! > Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: > http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/. > > > ==== KYJEFFER Mailing List ==== > Submit your information to the Jefferson Co., KY History and > Genealogy project. See > http://home.ix.netcom.com/~gsdownr/usgw/jefferson1.html for > information on how to submit. > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > records, go to: > 7 > > > ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/.

Hi Alex, I am searching for my elusive Lutheran Grandfather,Peter Wernz, and at this point am leaving no stone unturned. Could you send me more info about this cemetery so I can, perhaps, find out if he might be buried there. He lived in Louisville. Thanks, Jane On Wed, 25 Sep 2002 23:02:53 EDT CatMom1@aol.com writes: > I was in J-town today looking at the old cemetery that surrounds the > building > where the Thoroughbred Chorus rehearses. Just about the whole back > row is > HOKEs. From what I understand, the graves on the left of the > building are > Lutheran, and those on the right are Presbyterian. The location is > on > Watterson Trail, just before you get to the J-town Library. > > Regards, > Alex > > > ==== KYJEFFER Mailing List ==== > Submit your information to the Jefferson Co., KY History and > Genelaogy project. See > http://home.ix.netcom.com/~gsdownr/usgw/jefferson1.html for > information on how to submit. > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/.

I was in J-town today looking at the old cemetery that surrounds the building where the Thoroughbred Chorus rehearses. Just about the whole back row is HOKEs. From what I understand, the graves on the left of the building are Lutheran, and those on the right are Presbyterian. The location is on Watterson Trail, just before you get to the J-town Library. Regards, Alex

Hi Debbie, be aware that the combination of Gustav August was quite common in Germany. Kind regards Ruediger Kemmler Munich, Germany ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Please check out my emigration website: http://home.nexgo.de/r.kemmler -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: Deb [mailto:BigDeb28@bellsouth.net] Gesendet am: Dienstag, 24. September 2002 03:50 An: KYJEFFER-L@rootsweb.com Betreff: Re: [KYJEFFER] 1900 CENSUS There is no Gustave. There is an August with children, widowed, who is a stone mason. Debbie ----- Original Message ----- From: <JKing2345@aol.com> To: <KYJEFFER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, September 23, 2002 9:29 PM Subject: [KYJEFFER] 1900 CENSUS > I would appreciate a look up in 1900 census. > Gustave Winkler - Germany > Wife Bettie Winkler > Children > Jim > > > ==== KYJEFFER Mailing List ==== > http://www.migrations.org/migentry.php3 > If your information isn't in our database, submit it NOW! > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > ==== KYJEFFER Mailing List ==== Submit your information to the Jefferson Co., KY History and Genealogy project. See http://home.ix.netcom.com/~gsdownr/usgw/jefferson1.html for information on how to submit. ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

Hi, your ancestors obviously came from Germany. Unfortunately is Prussia larger state and without any city you will have problem to find them. Darmstadt can be the city of Darmstadt, close to Frankfurt or the former state Hessen-Darmstadt. Kind regards Ruediger Kemmler Munich, Germany ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Please check out my emigration website: http://home.nexgo.de/r.kemmler -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: Kybrenda@aol.com [mailto:Kybrenda@aol.com] Gesendet am: Dienstag, 24. September 2002 01:58 An: KYJEFFER-L@rootsweb.com Betreff: [KYJEFFER] WILT Looking for additional information on any of these person in this household on the 1880 Jefferson County Census. Census Place: Louisville, Jefferson, Kentucky Source: FHL Film 1254421 National Archives Film T9-0421 Page 257A Relation Sex Marr Race Age Birthplace William WILT Self M M W 38 PRUSSIA Occ: Laborer Fa: PRUSSIA Mo: PRUSSIA Christena WILT Other F M W 42 DARMSTADT Occ: Keeping House Fa: DARMSTADT Mo: DARMSTADT August WILT Other M S W 12 DARMSTADT Fa: DARMSTADT Mo: DARMSTADT Yono WILT Other F S W 11 DARMSTADT Fa: DARMSTADT Mo: DARMSTADT Lewis WILT Other M S W 7 KY Fa: PRUSSIA Mo: DARMSTADT ==== KYJEFFER Mailing List ==== http://www.migrations.org/migentry.php3 If your information isn't in our database, submit it NOW! ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

In a message dated 9/25/2002 3:36:29 PM Eastern Daylight Time, GVogedes@aol.com writes: > number of Wilt's in Warsaw, Indiana during the 1870-1930 time period. > Several had married daughters living in Louisville, Ky. This might be an > angle for you. Best of luck. Glenn > Thanks I'll check this out, do you know if there are GEPHARTS there, My August WILT m. Mary Elizabeth GEPHART b. IN Thanks Brenda

Filson Club has naturalization records for Louisville and Jefferson Co. Most of these are found in Louisville Police Court records as that's where many naturalizations occurred. Apparently, naturalization wasn't a big issue until the late 1860's. Several of my German relatives that arrived in the late 1840's didn't apply for naturalization until late 1860's. Glenn

I found a number of Wilt's in Warsaw, Indiana during the 1870-1930 time period. Several had married daughters living in Louisville, Ky. This might be an angle for you. Best of luck. Glenn

Boletused@aol.com wrote: > I think I read about Two Mile House in some old papers. If I remember right > it was a point between Shepherdsville and Louisville. But not sure if it was > from Shepherdsville or from Louisville. Aren't I a big help. :) But maybe > that will be a clue to get you further. > Paulina > > ==== KYJEFFER Mailing List ==== > Submit your information to the Jefferson Co., KY History and Genelaogy project. See http://home.ix.netcom.com/~gsdownr/usgw/jefferson1.html for information on how to submit. > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 Paulina, According to The Encyclopedia of Louisville......Buechel may have formerly been known as Two-Mile Town for its location in Two-Mile Precinct, so named due to its northern edge's distance from Louisville. It says that Buechel is a suburb in southeast Louisville, roughly bounded by Bashford Manor Ln. and Hikes Ln. to the north, Breckenridge Ln. to the east, Buechel Bank Rd. to the south, and Newburg Rd. to the west. Janis

The Filson Club has many for Louisville, Jefferson County. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alan Murray" <SSG-Murray@webtv.net> To: <KYJEFFER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2002 6:25 PM Subject: [KYJEFFER] Naturalization Records > Diane, > > At the Jefferson County Archives they have an index of the > naturalization records. This is only an index and gives the date they > became naturalized. My understanding is that the actual records are in > different places. Some may be lost. There are some in Frankfort at the > State Library and archives. The early records are included in the > Common Law court minutes, I researched 1820 and came across half a > dozen. David (not sure of his last name) at the Jefferson County > Archives is the one who told me where to find them. If you give them a > call or e-mail maybe they might be able to help you. If you do find > where they are, there are two things to look for. First the individual > would come into court and give his intent to become a citizen. Secondly > he would later (may a year or more later) come into court to give his > oath of allegiance. Between the two times in court they seem to always > tell the country they are from and sometimes the city, county or > providence. Also note that the two times they come into court is not > always the same court. An example of this is Christopher Jacob Williams > who declared his intentions at a Court in Philadelphia, PA but gave his > oath in Louisville. > > ~Alan > > > ==== KYJEFFER Mailing List ==== > http://www.usgenweb.org > Home of the oldest and largest volunteer not-for-profit genealogy organization on the web. > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

Diane, At the Jefferson County Archives they have an index of the naturalization records. This is only an index and gives the date they became naturalized. My understanding is that the actual records are in different places. Some may be lost. There are some in Frankfort at the State Library and archives. The early records are included in the Common Law court minutes, I researched 1820 and came across half a dozen. David (not sure of his last name) at the Jefferson County Archives is the one who told me where to find them. If you give them a call or e-mail maybe they might be able to help you. If you do find where they are, there are two things to look for. First the individual would come into court and give his intent to become a citizen. Secondly he would later (may a year or more later) come into court to give his oath of allegiance. Between the two times in court they seem to always tell the country they are from and sometimes the city, county or providence. Also note that the two times they come into court is not always the same court. An example of this is Christopher Jacob Williams who declared his intentions at a Court in Philadelphia, PA but gave his oath in Louisville. ~Alan

hello everyone! this list is fab, too! thanx for this website addy... it was very interesting. i have printed it out and will add to my "scrapbook." i loved reading this! however, i think i have a question about a street name... FYI: i was born in lebanon jct & i attended 7th grade at St. Benedict's Catholic School (1951). i spent my summer vacations at my Wm. H. Thomas grandparents home on "Elm Street," the same street that St. B's church & school are on. so i am questioning this street name on the LJ page, "EBB AND FLOW OF ITS FORTUNES HAVE BEEN LINKED TO A TURN OF THE TRACKS, THE TIDE OF A RIVER," by Bobbie Harville © The Courier-Journal Harville wrote: "...St. Benedict School on Poplar Street, the first parochial school in Bullitt County, opened in 1948 with about 60 students..." since the school was 2 doors from my grandparents home, i am questioning whether "Elm Street" was renamed from "Poplar Street" or vice-versa. does anyone on the list know? is anyone on the list from lj? i remember when st. b's school was being built. we used to "explore" the construction and we couldn't wait until the school would be finished. it was beautiful. the nuns were great! with so few students, we received a great deal of help etc... i have many fond memories. it's so sad to know that it has been or is being closed. of all the small towns in the world, lj was the best! charlotte clark

1900 Census KY Jeff co. 2nd Ward pg 277 June 11, 1900 Winkler August Head W M Sept 1849 50 Wd b. GER fb. GER mb. GER immigrated 1871 # of yrs in US 29 naturalized stone mason August Jr son W M Aug 1875 24 S b. KY Laborer ? Kate dau W F Oct 1877 22 S b. KY Laborer ? Carrie dau W F Feb 1880 20 S b. KY Charles son W M Oct 1882 17 S b. KY Laborer farm Sadie dau W F Sept 1887 12 S b. KY at school Rose dau W F May 1890 10 S b. KY at school Lily dau W F Nov 1894 5 S b. KY Raymond g-son W M Jan 1900 5 mos. b. KY **NOTE: On the census Rose's name looks like Ross? Also, all the children state their mother was born in Germany except for the grandson Raymond both parents were born in KY. ----- Original Message ----- From: <JKing2345@aol.com> To: <KYJEFFER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, September 23, 2002 10:02 PM Subject: [KYJEFFER] {KYJEFFER}1900 CENSUS > Deb, > August (Gustave) Winkler, with children,widowed is the person I am looking > for. > Thanks > Jim > > > ==== KYJEFFER Mailing List ==== > Submit your information to the Jefferson Co., KY History and Genealogy project. See http://home.ix.netcom.com/~gsdownr/usgw/jefferson1.html for information on how to submit. > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

Does anyone have the 1870 Jefferson County Census??? Could someone check to see if there are any WILT's listed in Louisville then? I'm trying to determine if the Christina and William WILT were married and the 1880 census just had them listed wrong....Trying to determine if they are the parents of August WILT. Thanks Brenda

In a message dated 9/23/2002 8:56:29 PM Eastern Daylight Time, BigDeb28@bellsouth.net writes: > > In the 1900 Census, Lewis Wilt is living in the household of Louis Huber. > Wilt Louis Boarder W M Nov 1872 27 S b. KY fb. GER mb. GER > Day Laborer > > No other Wilt names you had listed come up for KY. > Debbie Thanks Debbie, Could yo check the 1900 Census for August Wild sometime the name changed to WILD, he was married to Mary Elizabeth GEPHARDT b. IN d/o John GEPHARDT. Thanks Brenda

In a message dated 9/23/2002 8:56:29 PM Eastern Daylight Time, BigDeb28@bellsouth.net writes: > > In the 1900 Census, Lewis Wilt is living in the household of Louis Huber. > Wilt Louis Boarder W M Nov 1872 27 S b. KY fb. GER mb. GER > Day Laborer > > No other Wilt names you had listed come up for KY. > Debbie Thanks D

Julie Barnard wrote: > I can't relate Two Mile Precinct directly to the census, but this description might help you to do so. This is from the Courier-Journal series on historic neighborhoods in Louisville: http://www.courier-journal.com/reweb/community/placetime/midcounty-buechel.html > > Julie > > When I searched for ancestors, I found friends! > > --------------------------------- > Do you Yahoo!? > New DSL Internet Access from SBC & Yahoo! > > ==== KYJEFFER Mailing List ==== > http://www.alhn.org and http://www.ahgp.org > Go here for additional American History resources. > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 In a map book that I found and copied at the Main Library it gives a Population count from the U. S. Census of 1870 for each Precinct. It also gives the Post Office for each Precinct in Jefferson County and Oldham County. The Post Office for Two-Mile House was Newburgh (later Newburg). There were 1,932 natives and 408 foreigners. Just thought it was interesting to have an idea of the number of people living in a particular area. Janis