Hi Debbie, I subscribed to the One World Tree at Ancestry.com yesterday. Looked at the entries and was very disappointed that these were the same listings, for the most part, of Ancestry World Tree. I called them back three hours later and canceled the subscription. You can basically get the same thing from Rootsweb.com for FREE. Roberta

Does anyone know, that subscribes to Ancestry.com, what the difference is, if any, between the OneWorldTree and Ancestry World Tree? Is it just duplication? Thanks, Debbie

Richard: Yes, we did have a German newspaper but most of the deaths listed were death notices and not Obits. I will be back to the library over the weekend. Send me what you are looking for and I will see what I can find for you. Wayne Walker in Louisville -----Original Message----- From: "Richard M. Pope" <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Date: Mon, 13 Dec 2004 19:43:18 -0500 Subject: [KYJEFFER] c.1900 Louisville Newspapers > I was wondering if there is a run of newspapers for Louisville besides > the > Courier-Journal for the late 19th and early 20th centuries? I am > especially interested in German families so perhaps there might even be > a > German paper. I have thoroughly checked the Courier-Journal for this > time > period and don't find much in the way of death notices. > > If there are some does anyhow have information that could help me > locate > these old newspapers? > > Thanks for any help. > > Richard Pope > Torrington, CT > > > > ==== KYJEFFER Mailing List ==== > Submit your information to the Metro Louisville-Jefferson County, > Kentucky History and Genealogy Project. See > http://www.rootsweb.com/~kyjeffer/ for information on how to submit. > > ============================== > New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your > ancestors at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. > Learn more: > http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=145 > 99&targetid=5429 > >

Mary Frances Gilpin Lane http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~charlotteamiller/mary_frances_gilpin_lane_obit.htm John Alford Lane, Sr. http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~charlotteamiller/john_alford_lane_sr_obit.htm Emma Evelyn Gilpin Lane http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~charlotteamiller/emma_evelyn_gilpin_lane_obit.htm Hallie Marple Lane http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~charlotteamiller/hallie_marie_marple_lane_obit.htm Diane L. Wilson Lane http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~charlotteamiller/diane_l_wilson_lane_obit.htm Charlotte Miller http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~charlotteamiller/index.html http://www.geocities.com/charlotte7274/index.html http://www.geocities.com/c81371/ http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FamilyandMore

I was wondering if there is a run of newspapers for Louisville besides the Courier-Journal for the late 19th and early 20th centuries? I am especially interested in German families so perhaps there might even be a German paper. I have thoroughly checked the Courier-Journal for this time period and don't find much in the way of death notices. If there are some does anyhow have information that could help me locate these old newspapers? Thanks for any help. Richard Pope Torrington, CT

The University of Louisville has a collection of the "Louisville Anzeiger" newspaper, which was printed in German. You might want to check with them. Louisville Anzeiger Collection : Louisville Anzeiger Date/Extent : 1849-1938; 173 reels microfilm, 1.25 linear ft. Description : Louisville Anzeiger, published from 1849 to 1938, was a German language newspaper providing news to and documenting the activities of the city's large community of people of German heritage. In addition to the microfilm, which provides access to issues no longer extant, the collection includes several commemorative editions of the Anzeiger published at various points in its history. Repository : University Archives <http://www.louisville.edu/library/uarc/> Hope this helps. Pat Settle Ludington, Michigan "Richard M. Pope" <[email protected]> wrote: I was wondering if there is a run of newspapers for Louisville besides the Courier-Journal for the late 19th and early 20th centuries? I am especially interested in German families so perhaps there might even be a German paper. I have thoroughly checked the Courier-Journal for this time period and don't find much in the way of death notices. If there are some does anyhow have information that could help me locate these old newspapers? Thanks for any help. Richard Pope Torrington, CT ==== KYJEFFER Mailing List ==== Submit your information to the Metro Louisville-Jefferson County, Kentucky History and Genealogy Project. See http://www.rootsweb.com/~kyjeffer/ for information on how to submit. ============================== New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your ancestors at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. Learn more: http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&targetid=5429

There are a lot of websites with Kentucky Death Records. Go to www.google.com and search for "Kentucky Death Records" and you will find many, many sites, including Rootsweb. Marilyn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, December 11, 2004 6:25 AM Subject: [KYJEFFER] Death Records > Anyone have easy access to content of death records? I'm fairly new at > this an not sure what is available without going directly to Microfilm > at the library. I submitted an online request to the Lousville > Library, but since I live out of town they wanted to charge me $10 per > lookup - I have about 10 of them. (I have the volume and file numbers) > > Thanks > Bob > > > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > All your favorites on one personal page - Try My Yahoo! > http://my.yahoo.com > > > ==== KYJEFFER Mailing List ==== > The Jefferson County, Kentucky History and Genealogy page is proud to be a > part of the KyGenWeb and the USGenWeb Projects, both of which are > not-for-profit endeavors. Visit us at http://www.rootsweb.com/~kyjeffer/ . > > ============================== > View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find > marriage announcements and more. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx > > >

Anyone have easy access to content of death records? I'm fairly new at this an not sure what is available without going directly to Microfilm at the library. I submitted an online request to the Lousville Library, but since I live out of town they wanted to charge me $10 per lookup - I have about 10 of them. (I have the volume and file numbers) Thanks Bob __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? All your favorites on one personal page � Try My Yahoo! http://my.yahoo.com

Looking for possibly 2 marriage records on the same guy. Jacob Staab married Katie ? about 1892 in Jefferson Co. His other marriage would of been prior to that. Thanks to anyone that may help! Debbie

Thanks Donnie! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Donald L. Murphy" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, December 10, 2004 3:25 PM Subject: [KYJEFFER] Intelligence Bill without amendment > Hey Debbie, > In my humble opinion, I think it simply best to contact the Senators in > Washington the old fashioned way directly by letter or phone call. I > understand most of them don't acknowledge much of their email. It's good > that they at least know how you feel on this matter, as well as any other > legislation brought before them. > > Online petitions really don't hold much weight. If you notice all those > that come through your email regularly, most don't even show where the > completed list of names should be sent. These type petitions are also > incumbent upon people forwarding and someone actually taking responsibility > of seeing it finally gets to the intended parties. These type of petitions > are totally discounted anyway since somebody has to actually verify all the > names listed before such petitions can be certified. > > I'll repeat here that I'm not trying to take the list off-topic, but just > wanted to give everyone a head's up on what is occurring that may affect > your genealogy research. Thanks, > > Donnie > > > ==== KYJEFFER Mailing List ==== > Submit your information to the Metro Louisville-Jefferson County KY History and Genealogy project. See http://www.rootsweb.com/~kyjeffer/ for information on how to submit. > > ============================== > Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. > Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx > >

Hey Debbie, In my humble opinion, I think it simply best to contact the Senators in Washington the old fashioned way directly by letter or phone call. I understand most of them don't acknowledge much of their email. It's good that they at least know how you feel on this matter, as well as any other legislation brought before them. Online petitions really don't hold much weight. If you notice all those that come through your email regularly, most don't even show where the completed list of names should be sent. These type petitions are also incumbent upon people forwarding and someone actually taking responsibility of seeing it finally gets to the intended parties. These type of petitions are totally discounted anyway since somebody has to actually verify all the names listed before such petitions can be certified. I'll repeat here that I'm not trying to take the list off-topic, but just wanted to give everyone a head's up on what is occurring that may affect your genealogy research. Thanks, Donnie

Why can't we start an online petition??? Debbie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Donald L. Murphy" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, December 10, 2004 2:59 PM Subject: [KYJEFFER] FW: Intelligence Bill without amendment > > > -----Original Message----- > From: W David Samuelsen [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Friday, December 10, 2004 10:58 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Intel Bill without amendment > > > Received yesterday afternoon from him > > ---Begin Message--- > > Senate Bill 2845 has passed the Senate WITHOUT our suggested wording. One of > the > provisions that did pass reads as follows: "ISSUANCE TO FAMILY MEMBERS- Not > later than one year after the date of the enactment of this Act, the > Secretary, > in consultation with the Secretary of Health and Human Services and the > States, > shall establish minimum standards for issuance of a birth certificate to > specific family members, their authorized representatives, and others who > demonstrate that the certificate is needed for the protection of the > requestor's > personal or property rights." > > Assuming we were not successful at getting our language in the bill, it > looks > like our next shot is to get our language in the minimum standards, making > it > clear that the States are free to issue non-certified copies to the public. > > You are free to forward this to other interested parties as you see fit. > > David E. Rencher > Chair, Record Preservation and Access Committee > Federation of Genealogical Societies and the National Genelaogical Society > > > > > > ==== KYJEFFER Mailing List ==== > Submit your information to the Metro Louisville-Jefferson County KY History and Genealogy project. See http://www.rootsweb.com/~kyjeffer/ for information on how to submit. > > ============================== > View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find > marriage announcements and more. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx > >

-----Original Message----- From: W David Samuelsen [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Friday, December 10, 2004 10:58 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Intel Bill without amendment Received yesterday afternoon from him ---Begin Message--- Senate Bill 2845 has passed the Senate WITHOUT our suggested wording. One of the provisions that did pass reads as follows: "ISSUANCE TO FAMILY MEMBERS- Not later than one year after the date of the enactment of this Act, the Secretary, in consultation with the Secretary of Health and Human Services and the States, shall establish minimum standards for issuance of a birth certificate to specific family members, their authorized representatives, and others who demonstrate that the certificate is needed for the protection of the requestor's personal or property rights." Assuming we were not successful at getting our language in the bill, it looks like our next shot is to get our language in the minimum standards, making it clear that the States are free to issue non-certified copies to the public. You are free to forward this to other interested parties as you see fit. David E. Rencher Chair, Record Preservation and Access Committee Federation of Genealogical Societies and the National Genelaogical Society

NOLD, John George (signed in german) Bond William NOLD Zeller Mary lawful age proven by Wm. NOLD licence and bond 4/26/1845 Married 4/28/1845 by Charles BLAND That all there is, doesn't tell if William is a brother an uncle, a father. -- Teddy List Mom for the Grayson Co Ky List, Brady, Vertrees, Ford, Fulkerson,and Commonwealth http://www.kygenweb.net/pd-res/deford.html -------------- Original message -------------- > I'm trying to find a John G. Nold who married Mary Zeller or Zoller on > 4/27/1845 in Jefferson County. I can find nothing at all on him other > than that. Thought the marriage records may have some info. > > > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Dress up your holiday email, Hollywood style. Learn more. > http://celebrity.mail.yahoo.com > > > ==== KYJEFFER Mailing List ==== > Search the Jefferson List Archives: > http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl?list=KYJEFFER > > or the Jefferson threaded archives: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/KYJEFFER > > ============================== > Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. > Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx >

At the WorldConnect Project there's a submission regarding George Nold who married Mary Zeller. No dates offered for them, but two children are listed: Mary Jane, b 11 May 1851, and John Mary, b 11 Jan 1853, both allegedly born in Indiana. The 1860 Jefferson Co KY census shows three Nold children in St. Joseph's Orphanage, Louisville, Ward 2: George 13, Frank 12 and Mary 10, all listed as born in KY. In looking for John Nold, if you've found what appear to be conflicting records regarding one John Nold, see "Important Naming Note" at http://homepage.interaccess.com/~nealu/shlines.htm . ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, December 09, 2004 12:31 PM Subject: [KYJEFFER] Anyone With Access to 1845 Marriage Records > I'm trying to find a John G. Nold who married Mary Zeller or Zoller on > 4/27/1845 in Jefferson County. I can find nothing at all on him other > than that. Thought the marriage records may have some info. > -----Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, December 09, 2004 1:35 PM Subject: Re: [KYJEFFER] Anyone With Access to 1845 Marriage Records > NOLD, John George (signed in german) Bond William NOLD > Zeller Mary lawful age proven by Wm. NOLD licence and bond 4/26/1845 > Married 4/28/1845 by Charles BLAND > > That all there is, doesn't tell if William is a brother an uncle, a > father. > > -- > Teddy > List Mom for the Grayson Co Ky > List, Brady, Vertrees, Ford, > Fulkerson,and Commonwealth > http://www.kygenweb.net/pd-res/deford.html >

I'm trying to find a John G. Nold who married Mary Zeller or Zoller on 4/27/1845 in Jefferson County. I can find nothing at all on him other than that. Thought the marriage records may have some info. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Dress up your holiday email, Hollywood style. Learn more. http://celebrity.mail.yahoo.com

This is not being posted to put anyone in a panic or to incite any political debate. I did think, however, it is important for genealogists to be aware of what was being considered in Washington. From Rootsweb Review today - ------ New Bill Will Close Records to Genealogists ------ HR10, which was mentioned in the 13 October issue of RootsWeb Review, has passed out of the U.S. House of Representatives and is now part of S.2845. The amendments suggested by David Rencher in his letter to the bill's sponsor, Congressman J. Dennis Hastert, were NOT incorporated into this legislation. Thus, the terms of HR10 will now be considered by the Senate, as part of S.2845. If S.2845 becomes law, as now written, family historians will face some real challenges in attempts to obtain birth records, even on long-deceased individuals. Specifically, what genealogists need to do is suggest to their lawmakers the addition of Sec. 3061(b)(1)(A)(iii) that would read: "who is alive on the date that access to their birth certificate is requested." This addition would clarify that the legislation (soon to be law) applies ONLY to birth certificates of CURRENTLY LIVING PERSONS. If you do not know your U.S. Senator's e-mail address, you can find it at http://www.senate.gov/. This bill can be found online at http://thomas.loc.gov/. Put in S.2845 (in the bill number window) and then select item No. 3; and go to Subtitle B--Identity Management Security; Chapter 2--Improved Security for Birth Certificates.

I don't know anything about this, but just happened upon it on Ebay. In case anybody is connected. 1872 ANTIQUE FAMILY BIBLE Lee + England Family Kentucky Item number: 6938503456 ~Debbie

I have a whole AVON BOX full of the books for the KY Historical society. It is called KENTUCKY ANCESTORS, and they are different colors, some white, some beige, some light blue, some bright blue. Here is what I have only one KY Heritage 1996-1997 this is a junior edition, and tells all kind of history These books have an index at the end of each yr.the #4 one. I know I have more, but don't have access to them at this time. Summer 2002 #4 Autumn 2002 Vol 38 #1 Spring 2001 Vo 36 #3Summer Vol36 #4 Autumn/Winter 2001 Vol 37 # 1 and 2 Summer/Autumn/# 1Winter 2000 Vol 36 #2 Summer/1999 Vol 34 #4 Autum 1999 Volume 35 #1 Spring 1998 Vol 33 #3/Summer 1998 Vol 33 #4 Autumn 1998 Vol 34 #1 1994-1995 #2 #1 Vol 30 #4 Summer/Spring 1996 Vol 31 #3 #4 Winter Vol 32 #2 Spring 1997 Vol 32 #3 #4 Autumn 1997 Vol 33 #1 Winter #2 Autumn 1996 Vol 32# 1 Volume 31 1995-1996 #2 Vol 31 1994-1995 #1 1194-1995 Vol 30 #3 Vol 29 1993-1994 #1#2 #3 #4` Autumn 1992Vol 28 #2 #3 #4 -- Teddy List Mom for the Grayson Co Ky List, Brady, Vertrees, Ford, Fulkerson,and Commonwealth http://www.kygenweb.net/pd-res/deford.html

Re: Home for Friendless Women Another site http://64.233.167.104/search?q=cache:R2Z4SV-MIjMJ:www.soulofamerica.com/cityfldr/louisville3.html+ky+Home+for+Friendless+Women&hl=en Perhaps a search on the name of this family/name: Susan Speed " Farmington Historic Home Listed on the National Register of Historic Places; completed ~1816 for John and Lucy Speed, wealthy hemp plantation owners; built from a plan by Thomas Jefferson, the house and furnishings are representative of the period between 1815 and 1840; the garden is based on early 19th-century plans of Kentucky gardens, a stone barn and springhouse have been restored on the eighteen-acre property, and in 1992 a summer kitchen was reconstructed; Farmington's most famous guest was Abraham Lincoln, who visited the Speed family in 1841; the Visitors' Center, dedicated in 1993, houses staff offices as well as an educational center, and the Carriage House is used for special events; Farmington was typical of its time in farm management and slave life; Every part of the enterprise was made profitable by the labor of slaves who were also frequently hired out to neighboring plantations; births and deaths, purchases, slaves and occasional runaways contributed to the ebb and flow of the slave! population. The house and land bustled with the activity of slaves and their children, the Speed family, and their frequent business and social visitors; one slave, named Morocco, was so trusted by John Speed that he traveled as a business courier; at John Speed's death in 1840, fifty-seven slaves were listed as inventory; earlier, daughter SUSAN, who later established The Home for Friendless Women, received five slaves; although this was common practice, it contributed to the break-up of slave families; another daughter, Peachy, who took over the management of the plantation in 1845, received slaves upon her marriage to Austin L. Peay in 1832; some Speed family members freed their slaves; according to court documents in 1845, Lucy G. Speed, John's widow, and their daughter Lucy F. Breckinridge emancipated three slaves - Rose, Sally and her son Harrod; other family members, such as sons J. Smith, Joshua, Phillip and daughters Mary and Eliza freed their slaves between 1863 ! and 1865; Peachy Speed Peay, whose husband Austin had died during the 1849 cholera epidemic, sold Farmington in 1865; Tue-Sat 10a-4:30p, Sun 1:30p-4:30p; 3033 Bardstown Road near Wadsworth Ave; 502-452-9920; http://www.historichomes.org/fmframe.htm _______________________________________________ No banners. No pop-ups. No kidding. Make My Way your home on the Web - http://www.myway.com