I should have mentioned that there is to be a St Patrick Reunion Festival on Thursday, March17th. If anyone in the area is interested in the details, read the Neighborhood section article in today's paper. Janis

Janis, Rita and all others: Janis, yes it was you amongst several others whom stated it was St. Patrick's church and personally I am convinced that it is indeed. Also, the person whom responded to it in relation to the fence was Jackie Browning also of this list. They were all in response to my original request of back abt. 4/2004. Thanks to all for your expertise, you most definitely have me convinced. Also, as a kind gesture, for those researchers whom are in today's CJ, if they would like to contact me, I would be more than happy to have a copy made of the original and mailed to them at my expense. I personally, do not have the original but rather my Uncle. Regardless, it will not be a problem. Feel free to pass this on to those interested. Thanks again to ALL! Kenny Schmid -B.burg, KY http://schmidgenealogy.homestead.com/Schmid.html "Connecting Great Relatives-1 Person at a time" > All outbound mail is virus scanned for your protection ----- Original Message ----- From: "Janis Fowler" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, March 11, 2005 11:14 PM Subject: Re: [KYJEFFER] Unidentified 1937 church photo you posted > That photo has been questioned sometime ago. It is definitely St. > Patrick's Church. Interestingly, a large article is in our > Courier-Journal today telling about the research done by 3 former > parishioners; Doris Batliner, Joan Batliner and Rose Sandifer King. They > have written a book chronicling its history. The title is: "The Silent > Sentinel: A History of Old St. Patrick Church". The article states that > the church is at 13th & Market. > > The iron part of the fence is no longer there. Someone posted that her > mother helped remove that part of the fence to be turned in during the > war. If that person reads this, maybe she will, again, confirm this fact > for us. > > Janis > > > ==== KYJEFFER Mailing List ==== > Need to know where to look for all the records? Check out this page on > the Jefferson KyGenWeb site: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~kyjeffer/holdings/holdings.html > > ============================== > Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. > New content added every business day. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx > > >

Yea I was getting ready to email that I had the wrong church. It hit me about an hour after I sent the last email. The next time I am going down that way I will try and take pictures of St. Patricks, St. Anthonys and Our Lady's. LaDonna -----Original Message----- From: Janis Fowler [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Friday, March 11, 2005 11:21 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [KYJEFFER] Unidentified 1937 church photo you posted Our Lady's Church is at 35th & Rudd. Janis ==== KYJEFFER Mailing List ==== The Jefferson County, KY History and Genealogy page is part of the KyGenWeb and USGenWeb, and are not-for-profit Projects. Visit us at http://www.rootsweb.com/~kyjeffer/. ============================== Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx

Our Lady's Church is at 35th & Rudd. Janis

That photo has been questioned sometime ago. It is definitely St. Patrick's Church. Interestingly, a large article is in our Courier-Journal today telling about the research done by 3 former parishioners; Doris Batliner, Joan Batliner and Rose Sandifer King. They have written a book chronicling its history. The title is: "The Silent Sentinel: A History of Old St. Patrick Church". The article states that the church is at 13th & Market. The iron part of the fence is no longer there. Someone posted that her mother helped remove that part of the fence to be turned in during the war. If that person reads this, maybe she will, again, confirm this fact for us. Janis

Isn't that St Anthony Church at 23rd and Market?? Dorothy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rita Mackin Fox" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, March 11, 2005 5:39 PM Subject: [KYJEFFER] Unidentified 1937 church photo you posted > I might be wrong, but the photo of the church in the 1937 flood, which is at > http://www.rootsweb.com/~kyjeffer/pictures/kenny/floodof1937.jpg, looks like > the Church of the Assumption on Fifth Street, which was definitely in the > flooded area. > > Can anyone else confirm that? > > Rita Mackin Fox > (my great-great-grandparents Charles Vulfranc Freville and Victoria > Elizabeth Hubert were married there) > > > > ==== KYJEFFER Mailing List ==== > The Jefferson County, KY History and Genealogy page is part of the KyGenWeb and USGenWeb, and are not-for-profit Projects. Visit us at http://www.rootsweb.com/~kyjeffer/. > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > >

I found a postcard showing the Cathedral of the Assumption at http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.oldlouisville.com/postcard s/Louisville/pic/2ndPresby1_small.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.oldlouisville.com /postcards/Louisville/Broadway.htm&h=163&w=100&sz=6&tbnid=hOsG5s8U2T0J:&tbnh =91&tbnw=56&start=4&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dassumption%2Bchurch%2Blouisville%26hl %3Den%26lr%3D%26sa%3DN. (Scroll down to "rest" of Louisville--not Old Louisville--and click on Churches. It's among that grouping.) It's very close, but the windows of the Cathedral are arched, rather than rounded, as in the flood photo. And the roofline is different. Not sure if those could have been changed or not. (I know it underwent a major facelift a few years ago, but I doubt the 1937 photo and the postcard were taken more than a few decades apart.) Couldn't find St. Patrick's or St. Anthony's in a google image search. Rita -----Original Message----- From: wildwind [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Friday, March 11, 2005 5:55 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [KYJEFFER] Unidentified 1937 church photo you posted Rita, Thanks for your and any others input, suppose I need to ride down there to confirm that. I have also been told it could be: a.. St. Patrick's Catholic Church at about 17th and Market St b.. St. Patrick Church at 15th & Market. St. Patrick School was at 16th & Market went many years to both. Anyone close by whom could give their thoughts?? Pic at following rootsweb site: http://www.rootsweb.com/~kyjeffer/pictures/kenny/kennyphotos.html Thanks to ALL!! Kenny http://schmidgenealogy.homestead.com/Schmid.html "Connecting Great Relatives-1 Person at a time" > All outbound mail is virus scanned for your protection ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rita Mackin Fox" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, March 11, 2005 5:39 PM Subject: [KYJEFFER] Unidentified 1937 church photo you posted >I might be wrong, but the photo of the church in the 1937 flood, which is at > http://www.rootsweb.com/~kyjeffer/pictures/kenny/floodof1937.jpg, looks like > the Church of the Assumption on Fifth Street, which was definitely in the > flooded area. > > Can anyone else confirm that? > > Rita Mackin Fox > (my great-great-grandparents Charles Vulfranc Freville and Victoria > Elizabeth Hubert were married there) > > > > ==== KYJEFFER Mailing List ==== > The Jefferson County, KY History and Genealogy page is part of the KyGenWeb and USGenWeb, and are not-for-profit Projects. Visit us at http://www.rootsweb.com/~kyjeffer/. > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > > ==== KYJEFFER Mailing List ==== Need to know where to look for all the records? Check out this page on the Jefferson KyGenWeb site: http://www.rootsweb.com/~kyjeffer/holdings/holdings.html ============================== Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx

Rita, Thanks for your latest and yes I suspect your close!! The pic I am referring to is in my "UNKNOWNS" first pic on page top left. These girls are all ( I am almost certain) Skrobaneks. Daughters of Joseph (Rudolph??) Skrobanek b.1862 d. 1953? and wife Dora (nee Groskurd) Skrobanek b. 1862 d.1927. Dora was sister to my Mary Elizabeth (nee Groskurd) SCHMID. Additionally, the pic to its right "Alma, Helena and Grandma Cortner" are also Groskurd/Cortner/Stoner related. Yes, I recall seeing the Lawler/Lawlor name last night viewing different census- some connection there! We keep going, we might find were related!! Keep me in mind and I'll do the same. Saving email for future reference.. Any of my names ring a bell? Kenny SCHMID B.Burg, KY http://schmidgenealogy.homestead.com/Schmid.html "Connecting Great Relatives-1 Person at a time" > All outbound mail is virus scanned for your protection ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rita Mackin Fox" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, March 11, 2005 5:37 PM Subject: RE: [KYJEFFER] SKROBANEK/1918 >I have a Skrobanek who married one of my Nichters. (I'm not a descendant of > the Skrobaneks, but will share what little I have.) I couldn't find my > Skrobaneks in the photo--except that Helen might have been named for my > Helen Skrobanek Lawlor--but I think I'm a generation too early for these > girls. Here's what I can share: > > Magdalene "Lena" Nichter (b. 24 Jan. 1861 in Louisville) m. John Sarkanter > Skrobanek (b. 16 March 1861, in Teschen, Schesian, Austria) on Thursday, > 17 > May 1888, at 8:30 a.m. at St. Boniface Church in Louisville. (I actually > have an original wedding invitation!) According to the copy of a letter I > have from their late niece, Anna Mae "Sr. Felician" Goebel, he earned a > master's degree in horticulture and was once the florist to the royal > family > of Austria. They were the parents of: > > 1) Rudolph Joseph Skrobanek (the only one that might have children named > Skrobanek). He married Rosa Discha and they moved to ElPaso, Texas, from > Louisville in the 1920s. > > 2) Adelaide Mary Skrobanek (1891-1907) > > 3) Helen Elizabeth Skrobanek (m. Eugene M. Lawler; she died in > Albuquerque, > N.M.) > > 4) Frances E. Skrobanek (remained single; died in Nelson Co., at Nazareth > Village--at least that's where she was last known living) > > 5) Annie Mae (1900-1900). > > Your best bet is to see if Rudolph and Rosa had any children. I don't have > his year of birth, but if he was born in the late 1880s, then he could > have > had daughters that age in 1918. Kentucky didn't keep birth records before > 1911, but Louisville did. I forget who you write to to get them or if > they're indexed anywhere, but I'm sure someone on the list can help. > > I'm afraid I don't know anything more about that line. I think a > descendant > of Helen's still lives in Louisville--Mary Ann Maginnis. > > Other than that, I don't have any information. > > Hope this helps you track down the girls. If it turns out they are > children > of Rudolph Joseph, I'd love a high-resolution scan of the photo to include > with my Nichter genealogy. > > If you get interested in the Nichters, I have photos of Lena and of her > parents, Johann and Elizabetha Bouchard Nichter. (They were from Germany, > but immigrated right after their marriage, so all of their children were > born in Louisville.) > > Good luck in your search! > > Rita Mackin Fox > great-granddaughter of Catherine Elizabeth Nichter Freville (Lena's > sister) > [email protected] > > -----Original Message----- > From: wildwind [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Friday, March 11, 2005 5:03 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: [KYJEFFER] SKROBANEK/1918 > > > Hello Listers, > I am excited to say that after 2 years of searching, I have finally > located > the surname (SKROBANEK) of 5 girls which I have a picture of. I previously > only knew of their FIRST names but due to some intense searching, I > FINALLY > know who they are. Now, surprisingly, I recall seeing the Skrobanek name > recently I think on this list so am hoping to connect with the respective > families. (Thanks Much to Donnie, our list manager for importing my > "UNKNOWN > PICS on the Jeff. Co Rootsweb site) The Skrobanek family was in Jeff. Co, > KY during 1918 and some which I have documented as recent as 1993. SO, If > your a descendant of this family, PLEASE, email me so that I can share the > pic/pics and data I have for my new "connections". Thanks Much- Your all > the > best! > Kenny- born Jeff., CO> In B.burg, KY by marriage!! ;} > http://schmidgenealogy.homestead.com/Schmid.html > "Connecting Great Relatives-1 Person at a time" > > > All outbound mail is virus scanned for your protection > > > > > ==== KYJEFFER Mailing List ==== > http://www.usgenweb.org > Home of the oldest and largest volunteer not-for-profit genealogy > organization on the web. > > ============================== > New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your ancestors > at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. 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Nope, it's not St. Anthony's. It looks like St. Patrick's. St. Patrick's had a fence like the one pictured. dotmil <[email protected]> wrote:Isn't that St Anthony Church at 23rd and Market?? Dorothy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rita Mackin Fox" To: Sent: Friday, March 11, 2005 5:39 PM Subject: [KYJEFFER] Unidentified 1937 church photo you posted > I might be wrong, but the photo of the church in the 1937 flood, which is at > http://www.rootsweb.com/~kyjeffer/pictures/kenny/floodof1937.jpg, looks like > the Church of the Assumption on Fifth Street, which was definitely in the > flooded area. > > Can anyone else confirm that? > > Rita Mackin Fox > (my great-great-grandparents Charles Vulfranc Freville and Victoria > Elizabeth Hubert were married there) > > > > ==== KYJEFFER Mailing List ==== > The Jefferson County, KY History and Genealogy page is part of the KyGenWeb and USGenWeb, and are not-for-profit Projects. Visit us at http://www.rootsweb.com/~kyjeffer/. > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > > ==== KYJEFFER Mailing List ==== The Jefferson County, KY History and Genealogy page is part of the KyGenWeb and USGenWeb, and are not-for-profit Projects. Visit us at http://www.rootsweb.com/~kyjeffer/. ============================== Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx

I believe that is St. Anthonys church on Rudd but I may be wrong/ LaDonna -----Original Message----- From: Rita Mackin Fox [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Friday, March 11, 2005 5:40 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [KYJEFFER] Unidentified 1937 church photo you posted I might be wrong, but the photo of the church in the 1937 flood, which is at http://www.rootsweb.com/~kyjeffer/pictures/kenny/floodof1937.jpg, looks like the Church of the Assumption on Fifth Street, which was definitely in the flooded area. Can anyone else confirm that? Rita Mackin Fox (my great-great-grandparents Charles Vulfranc Freville and Victoria Elizabeth Hubert were married there) ==== KYJEFFER Mailing List ==== The Jefferson County, KY History and Genealogy page is part of the KyGenWeb and USGenWeb, and are not-for-profit Projects. Visit us at http://www.rootsweb.com/~kyjeffer/. ============================== Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx

Sorry. I found more info, after all! Rudolph Joseph Skrobanek was b. 6 Oct. 1889 in St. Matthews, Ky. Moved to El Paso, Texas, in 1920s for health reasons. Adelaide Mary, b. 12 July 1891, d. at age 16 on 10 Oct. 1907. Buried at St. Michael's in Louisville. Helen Elizabeth was b. 10 Feb. 1894 in Rochester, N.Y. (That surprised me, but there were some Nichter connections to Rochester, so perhaps the Skrobaneks lived up there a while, as well. Also see birthplace of next daughter) Helen m. Eugene M. Lawler 6 April 1920. They moved to Albuquerque in 1948. She died in Albuquerque. Frances E. Skrobanek was b. 31 Dec. 1895 in Brocton, N.Y. (That's on Lake Erie, southwest of Buffalo.) She moved to El Paso, Texas, but returned to Kentucky. I remember visiting her in the late 1970s or 1980s at Nazareth Village in Nazareth, Ky. (Nelson Co.) She d. 8 Feb. 1984 and is buried at St. Michael's in Louisville. She never married. Annie Mae Skrobanek was b. 1 Aug. 1900 in Alexandria, Va. (Okay, they moved around a lot!) She d. 2 Aug. 1900 in Alexandria. Buried at St. Michael's Cemetery in Louisville. Mary Ann Maginnis (nickname Micky) is the daughter of Helen and Eugene. Hope this helps! Rita -----Original Message----- From: Rita Mackin Fox [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Friday, March 11, 2005 5:38 PM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: [KYJEFFER] SKROBANEK/1918 I have a Skrobanek who married one of my Nichters. (I'm not a descendant of the Skrobaneks, but will share what little I have.) I couldn't find my Skrobaneks in the photo--except that Helen might have been named for my Helen Skrobanek Lawlor--but I think I'm a generation too early for these girls. Here's what I can share: Magdalene "Lena" Nichter (b. 24 Jan. 1861 in Louisville) m. John Sarkanter Skrobanek (b. 16 March 1861, in Teschen, Schesian, Austria) on Thursday, 17 May 1888, at 8:30 a.m. at St. Boniface Church in Louisville. (I actually have an original wedding invitation!) According to the copy of a letter I have from their late niece, Anna Mae "Sr. Felician" Goebel, he earned a master's degree in horticulture and was once the florist to the royal family of Austria. They were the parents of: 1) Rudolph Joseph Skrobanek (the only one that might have children named Skrobanek). He married Rosa Discha and they moved to ElPaso, Texas, from Louisville in the 1920s. 2) Adelaide Mary Skrobanek (1891-1907) 3) Helen Elizabeth Skrobanek (m. Eugene M. Lawler; she died in Albuquerque, N.M.) 4) Frances E. Skrobanek (remained single; died in Nelson Co., at Nazareth Village--at least that's where she was last known living) 5) Annie Mae (1900-1900). Your best bet is to see if Rudolph and Rosa had any children. I don't have his year of birth, but if he was born in the late 1880s, then he could have had daughters that age in 1918. Kentucky didn't keep birth records before 1911, but Louisville did. I forget who you write to to get them or if they're indexed anywhere, but I'm sure someone on the list can help. I'm afraid I don't know anything more about that line. I think a descendant of Helen's still lives in Louisville--Mary Ann Maginnis. Other than that, I don't have any information. Hope this helps you track down the girls. If it turns out they are children of Rudolph Joseph, I'd love a high-resolution scan of the photo to include with my Nichter genealogy. If you get interested in the Nichters, I have photos of Lena and of her parents, Johann and Elizabetha Bouchard Nichter. (They were from Germany, but immigrated right after their marriage, so all of their children were born in Louisville.) Good luck in your search! Rita Mackin Fox great-granddaughter of Catherine Elizabeth Nichter Freville (Lena's sister) [email protected] -----Original Message----- From: wildwind [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Friday, March 11, 2005 5:03 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [KYJEFFER] SKROBANEK/1918 Hello Listers, I am excited to say that after 2 years of searching, I have finally located the surname (SKROBANEK) of 5 girls which I have a picture of. I previously only knew of their FIRST names but due to some intense searching, I FINALLY know who they are. Now, surprisingly, I recall seeing the Skrobanek name recently I think on this list so am hoping to connect with the respective families. (Thanks Much to Donnie, our list manager for importing my "UNKNOWN PICS on the Jeff. Co Rootsweb site) The Skrobanek family was in Jeff. Co, KY during 1918 and some which I have documented as recent as 1993. SO, If your a descendant of this family, PLEASE, email me so that I can share the pic/pics and data I have for my new "connections". Thanks Much- Your all the best! Kenny- born Jeff., CO> In B.burg, KY by marriage!! ;} http://schmidgenealogy.homestead.com/Schmid.html "Connecting Great Relatives-1 Person at a time" > All outbound mail is virus scanned for your protection ==== KYJEFFER Mailing List ==== http://www.usgenweb.org Home of the oldest and largest volunteer not-for-profit genealogy organization on the web. ============================== New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your ancestors at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. Learn more: http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&ta rgetid=5429 ==== KYJEFFER Mailing List ==== Submit your information to the Metro Louisville-Jefferson County, Kentucky History and Genealogy Project. See http://www.rootsweb.com/~kyjeffer/ for information on how to submit. ============================== Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx

Rita, Thanks for your and any others input, suppose I need to ride down there to confirm that. I have also been told it could be: a.. St. Patrick's Catholic Church at about 17th and Market St b.. St. Patrick Church at 15th & Market. St. Patrick School was at 16th & Market went many years to both. Anyone close by whom could give their thoughts?? Pic at following rootsweb site: http://www.rootsweb.com/~kyjeffer/pictures/kenny/kennyphotos.html Thanks to ALL!! Kenny http://schmidgenealogy.homestead.com/Schmid.html "Connecting Great Relatives-1 Person at a time" > All outbound mail is virus scanned for your protection ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rita Mackin Fox" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, March 11, 2005 5:39 PM Subject: [KYJEFFER] Unidentified 1937 church photo you posted >I might be wrong, but the photo of the church in the 1937 flood, which is at > http://www.rootsweb.com/~kyjeffer/pictures/kenny/floodof1937.jpg, looks like > the Church of the Assumption on Fifth Street, which was definitely in the > flooded area. > > Can anyone else confirm that? > > Rita Mackin Fox > (my great-great-grandparents Charles Vulfranc Freville and Victoria > Elizabeth Hubert were married there) > > > > ==== KYJEFFER Mailing List ==== > The Jefferson County, KY History and Genealogy page is part of the KyGenWeb and USGenWeb, and are not-for-profit Projects. Visit us at http://www.rootsweb.com/~kyjeffer/. > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > >

I might be wrong, but the photo of the church in the 1937 flood, which is at http://www.rootsweb.com/~kyjeffer/pictures/kenny/floodof1937.jpg, looks like the Church of the Assumption on Fifth Street, which was definitely in the flooded area. Can anyone else confirm that? Rita Mackin Fox (my great-great-grandparents Charles Vulfranc Freville and Victoria Elizabeth Hubert were married there)

I have a Skrobanek who married one of my Nichters. (I'm not a descendant of the Skrobaneks, but will share what little I have.) I couldn't find my Skrobaneks in the photo--except that Helen might have been named for my Helen Skrobanek Lawlor--but I think I'm a generation too early for these girls. Here's what I can share: Magdalene "Lena" Nichter (b. 24 Jan. 1861 in Louisville) m. John Sarkanter Skrobanek (b. 16 March 1861, in Teschen, Schesian, Austria) on Thursday, 17 May 1888, at 8:30 a.m. at St. Boniface Church in Louisville. (I actually have an original wedding invitation!) According to the copy of a letter I have from their late niece, Anna Mae "Sr. Felician" Goebel, he earned a master's degree in horticulture and was once the florist to the royal family of Austria. They were the parents of: 1) Rudolph Joseph Skrobanek (the only one that might have children named Skrobanek). He married Rosa Discha and they moved to ElPaso, Texas, from Louisville in the 1920s. 2) Adelaide Mary Skrobanek (1891-1907) 3) Helen Elizabeth Skrobanek (m. Eugene M. Lawler; she died in Albuquerque, N.M.) 4) Frances E. Skrobanek (remained single; died in Nelson Co., at Nazareth Village--at least that's where she was last known living) 5) Annie Mae (1900-1900). Your best bet is to see if Rudolph and Rosa had any children. I don't have his year of birth, but if he was born in the late 1880s, then he could have had daughters that age in 1918. Kentucky didn't keep birth records before 1911, but Louisville did. I forget who you write to to get them or if they're indexed anywhere, but I'm sure someone on the list can help. I'm afraid I don't know anything more about that line. I think a descendant of Helen's still lives in Louisville--Mary Ann Maginnis. Other than that, I don't have any information. Hope this helps you track down the girls. If it turns out they are children of Rudolph Joseph, I'd love a high-resolution scan of the photo to include with my Nichter genealogy. If you get interested in the Nichters, I have photos of Lena and of her parents, Johann and Elizabetha Bouchard Nichter. (They were from Germany, but immigrated right after their marriage, so all of their children were born in Louisville.) Good luck in your search! Rita Mackin Fox great-granddaughter of Catherine Elizabeth Nichter Freville (Lena's sister) [email protected] -----Original Message----- From: wildwind [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Friday, March 11, 2005 5:03 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [KYJEFFER] SKROBANEK/1918 Hello Listers, I am excited to say that after 2 years of searching, I have finally located the surname (SKROBANEK) of 5 girls which I have a picture of. I previously only knew of their FIRST names but due to some intense searching, I FINALLY know who they are. Now, surprisingly, I recall seeing the Skrobanek name recently I think on this list so am hoping to connect with the respective families. (Thanks Much to Donnie, our list manager for importing my "UNKNOWN PICS on the Jeff. Co Rootsweb site) The Skrobanek family was in Jeff. Co, KY during 1918 and some which I have documented as recent as 1993. SO, If your a descendant of this family, PLEASE, email me so that I can share the pic/pics and data I have for my new "connections". Thanks Much- Your all the best! Kenny- born Jeff., CO> In B.burg, KY by marriage!! ;} http://schmidgenealogy.homestead.com/Schmid.html "Connecting Great Relatives-1 Person at a time" > All outbound mail is virus scanned for your protection ==== KYJEFFER Mailing List ==== http://www.usgenweb.org Home of the oldest and largest volunteer not-for-profit genealogy organization on the web. ============================== New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your ancestors at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. Learn more: http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&ta rgetid=5429

Hello Listers, I am excited to say that after 2 years of searching, I have finally located the surname (SKROBANEK) of 5 girls which I have a picture of. I previously only knew of their FIRST names but due to some intense searching, I FINALLY know who they are. Now, surprisingly, I recall seeing the Skrobanek name recently I think on this list so am hoping to connect with the respective families. (Thanks Much to Donnie, our list manager for importing my "UNKNOWN PICS on the Jeff. Co Rootsweb site) The Skrobanek family was in Jeff. Co, KY during 1918 and some which I have documented as recent as 1993. SO, If your a descendant of this family, PLEASE, email me so that I can share the pic/pics and data I have for my new "connections". Thanks Much- Your all the best! Kenny- born Jeff., CO> In B.burg, KY by marriage!! ;} http://schmidgenealogy.homestead.com/Schmid.html "Connecting Great Relatives-1 Person at a time" > All outbound mail is virus scanned for your protection

If you go to the Fayette County Genweb site, there is a Lexington Cemetary Site that you can search for people. Jeff Jeppson

Cave Hill does have an online burial database? It just so happens though, this morning the database is not working. I've already called to inform them there is a problem. Debbie ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, March 11, 2005 10:50 AM Subject: [KYJEFFER] CAVE HILL Cem. Lou. , KY > In response to Inquiry's about Cave Hill Cem. in Louisville, KY, it is now > common knowledge that TWO of the largest Cemeteries in Commonwealth of KY do not > have an Internet search site for persons buried. These are not cash poor > operating cemeteries but have neglected participation in databases for the Public > to search. > > These are: CAVE HILL Cemetery - Louisville, KY and "The Lexington Cemetery" > at 833 Main St., in Lexington, KY. The Veterans Administration does maintain a > web site for an area designated US National Cemetery. > > Cave Hill and The Lexington Cemetery are both historic and two of the most > beautiful burial grounds in all of Kentucky, yet do not maintain databases for > the Public to access by Internet. > > Some of the best known web sites on KY burials that persons should maintain > on their home computers are listed below. There are others, where individuals > care enough to maintain such data. > > In submitting the following I do not own or maintain any of these web sites. > Hopefully one day "Cave Hill" and "The Lexington Cemetery" will join the > Internet. > I do have relatives in both cemeteries and the Leslie County cemeteries below: > > JOHN in CA > > FAVORITES LOCATIONS for searches: > > > > http://www.dagonbytes.com/graveyards/listings/statepage/kentucky/kentucky.htm > > > http://vitals.rootsweb.com/ky/death/search.cgi > > > http://ukcc.uky.edu/~vitalrec/ > > > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/KY-DAR-L/ > > > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~jhail/pulaski_cemeteries.html > > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/ussearch.htm > > > http://www.usgennet.org/usa/ky/county/lee/LeeCoCem/begcec.html > > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~kyleslie/Lewis_Chappell.html > > > http://rpennington.topcities.com/Cemeteries/leslie_county_cemeteries.html > > > http://www.kygenweb.net/ > > > http://www.interment.net/data/us/ky/knox/barbourville/ > > > http://www.wwiimemorial.com/ > > > > > > > ==== KYJEFFER Mailing List ==== > Submit your information to the Metro Louisville-Jefferson County KY History and Genealogy project. See http://www.rootsweb.com/~kyjeffer/ for information on how to submit. > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > >

In response to Inquiry's about Cave Hill Cem. in Louisville, KY, it is now common knowledge that TWO of the largest Cemeteries in Commonwealth of KY do not have an Internet search site for persons buried. These are not cash poor operating cemeteries but have neglected participation in databases for the Public to search. These are: CAVE HILL Cemetery - Louisville, KY and "The Lexington Cemetery" at 833 Main St., in Lexington, KY. The Veterans Administration does maintain a web site for an area designated US National Cemetery. Cave Hill and The Lexington Cemetery are both historic and two of the most beautiful burial grounds in all of Kentucky, yet do not maintain databases for the Public to access by Internet. Some of the best known web sites on KY burials that persons should maintain on their home computers are listed below. There are others, where individuals care enough to maintain such data. In submitting the following I do not own or maintain any of these web sites. Hopefully one day "Cave Hill" and "The Lexington Cemetery" will join the Internet. I do have relatives in both cemeteries and the Leslie County cemeteries below: JOHN in CA > FAVORITES LOCATIONS for searches: > http://www.dagonbytes.com/graveyards/listings/statepage/kentucky/kentucky.htm > http://vitals.rootsweb.com/ky/death/search.cgi > http://ukcc.uky.edu/~vitalrec/ > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/KY-DAR-L/ > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~jhail/pulaski_cemeteries.html > http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/ussearch.htm > http://www.usgennet.org/usa/ky/county/lee/LeeCoCem/begcec.html > http://www.rootsweb.com/~kyleslie/Lewis_Chappell.html > http://rpennington.topcities.com/Cemeteries/leslie_county_cemeteries.html > http://www.kygenweb.net/ > http://www.interment.net/data/us/ky/knox/barbourville/ > http://www.wwiimemorial.com/ > >

Call the Cemetery 502-584-8363. They have it all on computer. Post it on the web site( section, number, and name). I'll get a picture for you. Al

Margaret and list- Not quite sure what happened with the last link- I'll try one more time: ftp://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/ky/jefferson/cemeteries/cavehill.txt Best of luck, Kenny http://schmidgenealogy.homestead.com/Schmid.html "Connecting Great Relatives-1 Person at a time" > All outbound mail is virus scanned for your protection ----- Original Message ----- From: "Margaret Stutzenberger" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, March 11, 2005 7:01 AM Subject: [KYJEFFER] Cave Hill Cemetery > Does anyone know the web address for a complete listing of burials in Cave > Hill Cemetery? Some time ago, I came across a list that contained burials > of those with names beginning with "S", but have been unable to locate it > again. I find partial listings, but none of them includes all listings. > I have tried the database of burials located at the cavehillcemetery.com, > but have been unsuccesful in locating the graves of those I am looking > for. > Thanks, > Margaret Stutzenberger > > > --------------------------------- > Do you Yahoo!? > Make Yahoo! your home page > > > ==== KYJEFFER Mailing List ==== > Submit your information to the Metro Louisville-Jefferson County, Kentucky > History and Genealogy Project. See http://www.rootsweb.com/~kyjeffer/ for > information on how to submit. > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > > >