Well, arn't you something special!!! I sincerely thank you for sending me the obit. You really are something special!!! Pat On Tue, 12 Apr 2005 15:13:33 +0000 [email protected] writes: > WILLOUGHBY. Lively > BURGESS > age 88 yrs, Wed Jan 15, 1971 Louisville Medcenter, 422 E Jefferson. > Former address Fleming Rd.. Survived by his wife Mrs. Eliza H. Smith > Willoughby, daughter Mrs. Dean D (Mary Beth) Mergenthaler West Palm > Beach FL, sons Paul B of Fanwood NJ and Eilot Willioughby, and I > think it says 4 grandchildren. Funeral 2:00p.m. Fri. at the > Highlands Funeral home 3331 Taylorsville Rd Center parking area from > Dutchmans Lane interment Resthaven Cem. > > -- > Teddy > List Mom for the Grayson Co Ky > List, Brady, Vertrees, Ford, > Fulkerson,and Commonwealth > http://www.kygenweb.net/pd-res/deford.html > > > ==== KYJEFFER Mailing List ==== > The Jefferson County, Kentucky History and Genealogy page is proud > to be a part of the KyGenWeb and the USGenWeb Projects, both of > which are not-for-profit endeavors. Visit us at > http://www.rootsweb.com/~kyjeffer/ . > > ============================== > New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your > ancestors at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. > Learn more: > http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599 &targetid=5429 > > >

The Louisville Anzeiger... the German newspaper. This man was German and the local English language newspapers were very inferior in their coverage of Germans. Patrick Hays http://www.migrations.org ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2005 3:45 PM Subject: Re: [KYJEFFER] Obit Lookup - Georg Nold - 1891 > Which of all of the newspapers in Louisville at the time am I most > likely to find it? (i.e. the "mainstream" newspaper at that time) > > --- [email protected] wrote: >> Sorry, just gave the one that tells what microfilm is avaiable, but >> if you go to the kygenweb site it will give you any information you >> need to research >> http://www.kygenweb.net/ >> >> -- >> Teddy >> List Mom for the Grayson Co Ky >> List, Brady, Vertrees, Ford, >> Fulkerson,and Commonwealth >> http://www.kygenweb.net/pd-res/deford.html >> >> -------------- Original message -------------- >> >> > that's to early for me to get them, but here is the link for >> newspaper film, >> > http://www.kygenweb.net/ukfilm/jefferson.txt >> > >> > -- >> > Teddy >> > List Mom for the Grayson Co Ky >> > List, Brady, Vertrees, Ford, >> > Fulkerson,and Commonwealth >> > http://www.kygenweb.net/pd-res/deford.html >> > >> > -------------- Original message -------------- >> > >> > > I've posted this before but have had no luck with responses back >> so >> > > thought I'd try again. I'm looking for an obit for Georg Nold who >> died >> > > on 12/16/1891. Can anyone help? >> > > >> > > Thanks >> > > Bob >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > __________________________________ >> > > Do you Yahoo!? >> > > Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! >> > > http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ >> > > >> > > >> > > ==== KYJEFFER Mailing List ==== >> > > The Jefferson County, Kentucky History and Genealogy page is >> proud to be a >> > part >> > > of the KyGenWeb and the USGenWeb Projects, both of which are >> not-for-profit >> > > endeavors. Visit us at http://www.rootsweb.com/~kyjeffer/ . >> > > >> > > ============================== >> > > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added >> in the >> > > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn >> more: >> > > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx >> > > >> > >> > >> > ==== KYJEFFER Mailing List ==== >> > Submit your information to the Metro Louisville-Jefferson County KY >> History and >> > Genealogy project. See http://www.rootsweb.com/~kyjeffer/ for >> information on >> > how to submit. >> > >> > ============================== >> > Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. >> > New content added every business day. Learn more: >> > http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx >> > >> >> >> ==== KYJEFFER Mailing List ==== >> Submit your information to the Metro Louisville-Jefferson County, >> Kentucky History and Genealogy Project. See >> http://www.rootsweb.com/~kyjeffer/ for information on how to submit. >> >> ============================== >> Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and >> the >> areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. >> Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx >> >> > > > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! > http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ > > ______________________________

We as administrators can monitor the List, but then you will not get the post until we are home to make sure nothing happens, this is just not a good way for us to do the List, we just need to do as Don did, that is the way I handle my List TOO! -- Teddy List Mom for the Grayson Co Ky List, Brady, Vertrees, Ford, Fulkerson,and Commonwealth http://www.kygenweb.net/pd-res/deford.html -------------- Original message -------------- > Donnie...you're the best! Impossible to stop this kind of nonsense, but you > come close. James O'Bryan fromcold,damp and windy Albion, California > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Donald L. Murphy" > To: > Sent: Friday, April 08, 2005 1:45 PM > Subject: RE: [KYJEFFER] List administrator > > > > > > > > Dave and list members, > > > > Yes, there is an administrator for the list and I most certainly did > notice > > the inappropriate post yesterday. The person who sent it had just gotten > a > > warning letter a few days ago for posting something then which did not > > belong on any genealogy forum. Since this person failed to heed that > > warning by posting a second time, his email has been banned from this list > > with no further questions needing to be asked. I will always give > everyone > > at least one warning before removing them from the list, as it is possible > > that postings could easily be sent inadvertently. However, this is not a > > three-strikes-and-you're-out kind of list. You need only get a second and > > you're done. Regretfully, this list has one less member today than it did > > yesterday, but life is still good! Hope you guys are all doing well. > > > > Here's wishing you all the very best in your research... > > > > Donnie > > > > Donald Murphy > > List Administrator > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: David Rafferty [mailto:[email protected]] > > Sent: Friday, April 08, 2005 12:35 PM > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: [KYJEFFER] Re: KYJEFFER-D Digest V05 #84 > > > > > > Why is this sort of hokum on this genealogy list! so-called diatribe is a > > well known hoax that can be found on several hoax websites. Full of > > half-truths, if that. Is the list mom monitoring this stuff.? Dave > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: > > To: > > Sent: Friday, April 08, 2005 10:18 AM > > Subject: KYJEFFER-D Digest V05 #84 > > > > > > > > ==== KYJEFFER Mailing List ==== > > Search the Jefferson List Archives: > > http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl?list=KYJEFFER > > > > or the Jefferson threaded archives: > > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/KYJEFFER > > > > ============================== > > Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. > > New content added every business day. Learn more: > > http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx > > > > > > > > > > ==== KYJEFFER Mailing List ==== > > Search the Jefferson List Archives: > > http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl?list=KYJEFFER > > > > or the Jefferson threaded archives: > > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/KYJEFFER > > > > ============================== > > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > > > > > > ==== KYJEFFER Mailing List ==== > Need to know where to look for all the records? Check out this page on the > Jefferson KyGenWeb site: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~kyjeffer/holdings/holdings.html > > ============================== > View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find > marriage announcements and more. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx >

I found another picture of a man called George Ruth who worked at Reynolds Metal Plant 10, there are three of them if He is kin I'll send them to you, it is on the Message board, there is a lot of good stuff on those message boards. this is the only picture that had the names on it. -- Teddy List Mom for the Grayson Co Ky List, Brady, Vertrees, Ford, Fulkerson,and Commonwealth http://www.kygenweb.net/pd-res/deford.html

Dora have you checked the cemetery section on the Jefferson Co. Ky Gen Web page? Cave Hill has a whole data base availabe at their homepage. http://www.rootsweb.com/~kyjeffer/cems/cemeteries.html I have checked my FTM Cd Family Archives Marriage Index KY 1851-1900 and I found none of your names there. So no marriages that I know of in Ky. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dora Albrecht" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, April 08, 2005 2:40 PM Subject: [KYJEFFER] Baughs in Jefferson County >I am looking for more Baugh deaths and places of burial. > > A Daniel Baugh, born abt 1827, in KY is listed with his grandson, Charles > Baugh, in the 1900 Jefferson County census. I know that Daniel Baugh had > previously lived in Scott County, IN. In the 1880 Scott County census, > there is a housekeeper, Elizabeth Richardson, in Daniel Baugh's household. > In the 1900 Jefferson County census, Elizabeth Richardson is with the > Charles Baugh household. She then also disappears from census. > If anyone on the list could help with location of graves for Daniel BAugh > and Elizabeth Richardson, as well as dates of death, please let me know. > > Any help is appreciated. > Dora Savae Albrecht > > > ==== KYJEFFER Mailing List ==== > Submit your information to the Metro Louisville-Jefferson County KY > History and Genealogy project. See http://www.rootsweb.com/~kyjeffer/ for > information on how to submit. > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx >

Dave and list members, Yes, there is an administrator for the list and I most certainly did notice the inappropriate post yesterday. The person who sent it had just gotten a warning letter a few days ago for posting something then which did not belong on any genealogy forum. Since this person failed to heed that warning by posting a second time, his email has been banned from this list with no further questions needing to be asked. I will always give everyone at least one warning before removing them from the list, as it is possible that postings could easily be sent inadvertently. However, this is not a three-strikes-and-you're-out kind of list. You need only get a second and you're done. Regretfully, this list has one less member today than it did yesterday, but life is still good! Hope you guys are all doing well. Here's wishing you all the very best in your research... Donnie Donald Murphy List Administrator -----Original Message----- From: David Rafferty [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Friday, April 08, 2005 12:35 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [KYJEFFER] Re: KYJEFFER-D Digest V05 #84 Why is this sort of hokum on this genealogy list! so-called diatribe is a well known hoax that can be found on several hoax websites. Full of half-truths, if that. Is the list mom monitoring this stuff.? Dave ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, April 08, 2005 10:18 AM Subject: KYJEFFER-D Digest V05 #84 ==== KYJEFFER Mailing List ==== Search the Jefferson List Archives: http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl?list=KYJEFFER or the Jefferson threaded archives: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/KYJEFFER ============================== Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. New content added every business day. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx

Donnie...you're the best! Impossible to stop this kind of nonsense, but you come close. James O'Bryan fromcold,damp and windy Albion, California ----- Original Message ----- From: "Donald L. Murphy" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, April 08, 2005 1:45 PM Subject: RE: [KYJEFFER] List administrator > > > Dave and list members, > > Yes, there is an administrator for the list and I most certainly did notice > the inappropriate post yesterday. The person who sent it had just gotten a > warning letter a few days ago for posting something then which did not > belong on any genealogy forum. Since this person failed to heed that > warning by posting a second time, his email has been banned from this list > with no further questions needing to be asked. I will always give everyone > at least one warning before removing them from the list, as it is possible > that postings could easily be sent inadvertently. However, this is not a > three-strikes-and-you're-out kind of list. You need only get a second and > you're done. Regretfully, this list has one less member today than it did > yesterday, but life is still good! Hope you guys are all doing well. > > Here's wishing you all the very best in your research... > > Donnie > > Donald Murphy > List Administrator > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: David Rafferty [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Friday, April 08, 2005 12:35 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: [KYJEFFER] Re: KYJEFFER-D Digest V05 #84 > > > Why is this sort of hokum on this genealogy list! so-called diatribe is a > well known hoax that can be found on several hoax websites. Full of > half-truths, if that. Is the list mom monitoring this stuff.? Dave > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Friday, April 08, 2005 10:18 AM > Subject: KYJEFFER-D Digest V05 #84 > > > > ==== KYJEFFER Mailing List ==== > Search the Jefferson List Archives: > http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl?list=KYJEFFER > > or the Jefferson threaded archives: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/KYJEFFER > > ============================== > Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. > New content added every business day. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx > > > > > ==== KYJEFFER Mailing List ==== > Search the Jefferson List Archives: > http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl?list=KYJEFFER > > or the Jefferson threaded archives: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/KYJEFFER > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx >

It's on CD's we own 355 Passenger and Immigration Lists - Germans to America 1850 - 1874 Dave Will Cheska Lester Dave -- Teddy List Mom for the Grayson Co Ky List, Brady, Vertrees, Ford, Fulkerson,and Commonwealth http://www.kygenweb.net/pd-res/deford.html -------------- Original message -------------- > Hello list, > > Does anyone have the FTM CD "Germans's to America 1850-1874" #355. I > would like to check on Dominique, Lucas, Ignatus, and Antone > Steinauer/Steinhauer. They all immigrated to the US around 1855-1860 from > Switzerland. Dominique Steinauer is my Great -Great-Grand.. > > Thanks JoAnn > > > ==== KYJEFFER Mailing List ==== > The Jefferson County, KY History and Genealogy page is part of the KyGenWeb and > USGenWeb, and are not-for-profit Projects. Visit us at > http://www.rootsweb.com/~kyjeffer/. > > ============================== > New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your ancestors at > the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. Learn more: > http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&target > id=5429 >

I am looking for more Baugh deaths and places of burial. A Daniel Baugh, born abt 1827, in KY is listed with his grandson, Charles Baugh, in the 1900 Jefferson County census. I know that Daniel Baugh had previously lived in Scott County, IN. In the 1880 Scott County census, there is a housekeeper, Elizabeth Richardson, in Daniel Baugh's household. In the 1900 Jefferson County census, Elizabeth Richardson is with the Charles Baugh household. She then also disappears from census. If anyone on the list could help with location of graves for Daniel BAugh and Elizabeth Richardson, as well as dates of death, please let me know. Any help is appreciated. Dora Savae Albrecht

Why is this sort of hokum on this genealogy list! so-called diatribe is a well known hoax that can be found on several hoax websites. Full of half-truths, if that. Is the list mom monitoring this stuff.? Dave ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, April 08, 2005 10:18 AM Subject: KYJEFFER-D Digest V05 #84

Steinauer, Antoine Age: 25 Gender: Male Country: Switzerland Final Destination: New York Manifest ID Number: 00007515 Ship's Name: Janius Port of Embarkation: Havre Date of Arrival: Oct 28, 1852 Captain's Name: Erskin Purpose for Travel: Staying in the USA Mode of Travel: Cabin Steinauer, Dominic Age: 39 Gender: Male Occupation: Farmer Country: Germany Last Residence: Orth Final Destination: United States Manifest ID Number: 00010217 Ship's Name: Bremen Port of Embarkation: Bremen Date of Arrival: Mar 1, 1864 Captain's Name: C. Meyer Purpose for Travel: Staying in the USA Mode of Travel: Steerage Steinauer, Ignacius Age: 32 Gender: Male Occupation: Farmer Country: Saxony Weimar Eisenach Final Destination: United States Ship's Name: Robert Port of Debarkation: New York Port of Embarkation: Havre Date of Arrival: May 11, 1854 Steinauer, Johann Age: 50 Gender: Male Occupation: Farmer Country: Saxony Weimar Eisenach Final Destination: United States Ship's Name: Robert Port of Debarkation: New York Port of Embarkation: Havre Date of Arrival: May 11, 1854 ***SAME SHIP AND DATE AS IGNATIUS Steinauer, Lucas Age: 28 Gender: Male Country: Switzerland Final Destination: United States Manifest ID Number: 00006765 Port of Embarkation: Havre Purpose for Travel: Staying in the USA Mode of Travel: Steerage Steinauer, Madelaine Age: 23 Gender: Female Occupation: Farmer Country: Saxony Weimar Eisenach Final Destination: United States Ship's Name: Robert Port of Debarkation: New York Port of Embarkation: Havre Date of Arrival: May 11, 1854 ***SAME SHIP AND DATE AS IGNATIUS AND JOHANN Steinauer, Meinrad Age: 3 Gender: Male Occupation: Child Country: Saxony Weimar Eisenach Final Destination: United States Ship's Name: Robert Port of Debarkation: New York Port of Embarkation: Havre Date of Arrival: May 11, 1854 ***SAME SHIP AND DATE ----- Original Message ----- From: "JoAnn" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, April 08, 2005 1:59 AM Subject: [KYJEFFER] Question > Hello list, > > Does anyone have the FTM CD "Germans's to America 1850-1874" #355. I > would like to check on Dominique, Lucas, Ignatus, and Antone > Steinauer/Steinhauer. They all immigrated to the US around 1855-1860 from > Switzerland. Dominique Steinauer is my Great -Great-Grand.. > > Thanks JoAnn > > > ==== KYJEFFER Mailing List ==== > The Jefferson County, KY History and Genealogy page is part of the KyGenWeb and USGenWeb, and are not-for-profit Projects. Visit us at http://www.rootsweb.com/~kyjeffer/. > > ============================== > New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your ancestors at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. Learn more: http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&targetid=5429 > >

I believe the last email sent by the individual below is in violation of the rules of this list. It has nothing to do with Jefferson, KY or Genealogy. Jeanette ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kirl Wright" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 5:41 PM Subject: [KYJEFFER] Must Be Passed On Again And Again

In a message dated 4/8/2005 2:00:13 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [email protected] writes: Hello list, Does anyone have the FTM CD "Germans's to America 1850-1874" #355. I would like to check on Dominique, Lucas, Ignatus, and Antone Steinauer/Steinhauer. They all immigrated to the US around 1855-1860 from Switzerland. Dominique Steinauer is my Great -Great-Grand.. Thanks JoAnn Hello I don't know these particular Steinhauer's but in Casey Co Ky where I grew up there was a family by that name. There was Augustus ,Otto,and other names that escape me now. that is such an unusual name it is just possible they are related. Learn from the mistakes of others. You can't make them all yourself. Mona

Hello list, Does anyone have the FTM CD "Germans's to America 1850-1874" #355. I would like to check on Dominique, Lucas, Ignatus, and Antone Steinauer/Steinhauer. They all immigrated to the US around 1855-1860 from Switzerland. Dominique Steinauer is my Great -Great-Grand.. Thanks JoAnn

Subject: MUST BE PASSED ON AGAIN AND AGAIN Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2005 16:20:19 +0000 This is a true story and the author, Rick Mathes, is a well known leader in prison ministry. Allah or Jesus This is a must read - it's short but very informative! The Muslim religion in the fastest growing religion per capita in the United States, especially in the minority races!!! Allah or Jesus? by Rick Mathes Last month I attended my annual training session that's required for maintaining my state prison security clearance. During the training session there was a presentation by three speakers representing the Roman Catholic, Protestant and Muslim faiths, who explained each of their belief systems I was particularly interested in what the Islamic Imam had to say. The Imam gave a great presentation of the basics of Islam, complete with a video. After the presentations, time was provided for questions and answers. When it was my turn, I directed my question to the Imam and asked: "Please, correct me if I'm wrong, but I understand that most Imams and clerics of Islam have declared a holy jihad [Holy war] against the infidels of the world. And, that by killing an infidel, which is a command to all Muslims, they are assured of a place in heaven. If that's the case, can you give me the definition of an infidel?" There was no disagreement with my statements and, without hesitation, he replied, "Non-believers!" I responded, "So , let me make sure I have this straight. All followers of Allah have been commanded to kill everyone who is not of your faith so they can go to Heaven. Is that correct?" The __expression on his face changed from one of authority and command to that of a little boy who had just gotten caught with his hand in the cookie jar. He sheepishly replied, "Yes." I then stated, "Well, sir, I have a real problem trying to imagine Pope John Paul commanding all Catholics to kill those of your faith or Dr.Stanley ordering Protestants to do the same in order to go to Heaven!" The Imam was speechless. I continued, "I also have problem with being your friend when you and your brother clerics are telling your followers to kill me. Let me ask you a question. Would you rather have your Allah who tells you to kill me in order to go to Heaven or my Jesus who tells me to love you because I am going to Heaven and He wants you to be with me?" You could have heard a pin drop as the Imam hung his head in shame. Needless to say, the organizers and/or promoters of the 'Diversification' training seminar were not happy with Rick's way of dealing with the Islamic Imam and exposing the truth about the Muslim's beliefs. I think everyone in the US should be required to read this. Sadly this will never make main stream media or be widely publicized. PLEASE PASS THIS ON TO ALL YOUR CONTACTS, IT MUST NOT STOP, THOUSANDS ARE TURNING TO THIS MUSLIM RELIGION AND WILL GO FROM THERE TO HELL AND WILL CARRY THOUSANDS WITH THEM... PASS IT ON.

Everyone is invited to the Ancestral Trails Historical Society's Third Annual Genealogy & History Book Fair & Sale on Saturday, May 14th, from 9:00 a.m. to 4:00 p.m. EDT at the Pritchard Community Center in Elizabethtown, KY. This year's event includes over 50 tables & 5,500 sq. ft. of societies, authors and vendors representing the history of towns, churches, individuals and events from all around the Kentucky area. There is no admission charge and no charge for two free presentations. Carolyn Wimp will have a new book available: "Hardin County Newspaper Abstracts 1908". There will be plenty of free parking and lunch will be available on site. E-mail [email protected] for more information on the book fair and vendors, including a map to the Pritchard Community Center. Ancestral Trails Historical Society is a regional genealogical and historical society with a national membership. It was formed in 1975 to gather, process and preserve genealogical and historical information relative to Breckenridge, Bullitt, Edmonson, Grayson, Hardin, Hart, Jefferson, LaRue, Meade and Nelson Counties in Kentucky and Harrison County in Indiana. The Ancestral Trails Research Library is located in the Hardin County History Museum at the corner of Dixie Hwy (US 31W) and Mulberry St. (US 62) in downtown Elizabethtown, KY. Hours are from 10:00 a.m. until 2:00 p.m. Wednesday through Saturday. Admission is free.

Looking for Information/Connections to Washington Temple MILLER b:1815 Jefferson Cty, KY He lived in Alton, ILL from 1835-1880, then Chicago until death in 1887. I am assuming his middle name is a family name. I have seen some MILLER and TEMPLE families living in Jefferson County in early census, but don't know of any actual connections. Pete Hanson

Louisville Division of Fire does have yearbooks from the era you are looking for. You need to contact Louisville Division of Fire to find the location of this information. Glenn

JoAnn, The death record you cited is probably all that you'll find as far as a certificate is concerned. It is actually a mortuary record kept by the city of Louisville. For some years in the 1850s, a record of births was required by law to be kept on the county level. The law (called the Sutton Law) was unpopular and met with much resistance. Compliance was sporadic. There are literally thousands of births never recorded. The births cover the years 1852, few for 1853, and 1854-1859. The microfilmed originals are available in many area libraries and via rental from the Family History Library in Salt Lake City. Betty Darnell has extracted those Jefferson County births recorded during this period from microfilm. They were published over several years in issues of the Louisville Genealogical Society's "Lines and By-Lines" quarterly. Back issues can be ordered from the society. Betty Darnell also published these records in two volumes ($25.00 each plus $4 S&H). The birth records give name, sex, race, date of birth, place (city, county or area of county) of birth, father/owner, and mother's maiden name. Volume 1 contains 1852-1855. Volume 2 contains records for 1856-1859. The volumes can be ordered from Betty at 171 Anna Lee Drive, Taylorsville, KY 40071. Births, 1855, pg. 15, Louisville: 24 February 1855, Margaret GEMERT, female, white, Father: Hy GEMERT; Mother: Maria STAIB. Births, 1856, pg. 9, Eastern District: March 11, 1856, Peter STAAB, male, white, Louisville, F: Jno. STAAB; mother: Joan STEINTRAUR (not sure of spelling of mother's maiden name). Births, 1857, pg. 6, Eastern District: 22 December 1857, John GIPPERISH, male, white, Louisville, Father: John GIPPERISH; Mother: Cath. STAIB Births, 1857, pg. 8 Eastern District: 2 March 1857, Joseph STAIB, male white, Louisville, Father: John STAIB; Mother: Mary NIERMAN Above records extracted from microfilm, interpreted, and compiled by Betty Darnell and published in "Lines-and-By-Lines" by the Louisville Genealogical Society. Hope this helps, Deborah ----- Original Message ----- From: "JoAnn" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, April 01, 2005 11:14 PM Subject: [KYJEFFER] Death record for Peter Staab* Need birth record > Hello, this is the death record for My Great Grand father born in > Louisville Market between Clay and Shelby. He was a horse collar maker. > His father was a mattress maker- used horse hair back then. I would love > to have his birth certificate. Can any one help? > Death Record; Peter Staab white male married 31 yrs old consumption Dr. > (can no read) buried 8/51885 resides 629 Jackson St. Michaels undertakes > Sch????. Is this a full death record for back then? It does not ask > father and mother. If he was 31 at death then he was born between > 1854-1855. I need his mother. He had a brother born in 1853/1854 named > Andreas (Andrew) Staab. > Thank You JoAnn > > > ==== KYJEFFER Mailing List ==== > Need to know where to look for all the records? Check out this page on > the Jefferson KyGenWeb site: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~kyjeffer/holdings/holdings.html > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx >

The Jefferson mailing list just received an email that was off-topic regarding genealogy. I just wanted to send a reminder to everyone here that such postings are inappropriate for our discussions. This has not been a problem with this list of members and I'm very grateful for that. My main intent with even writing is that if you choose to forward the said email to others, please remove the prepend (KYJEFFER) at the start of the subject line. Everyone has a right to their opinions and comments on such topics, but I don't want others to think such topics originate from this list. Thanks for your understanding. Donnie List Administrator ==== KYJEFFER Mailing List ==== Submit your information to the Metro Louisville-Jefferson County KY History and Genealogy project. See http://www.rootsweb.com/~kyjeffer/ for information on how to submit. ============================== Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx