Your email enlightened me regarding the changes to names. My paternal grandparents are German and I am having a difficult time finding where they entered the U.S. or where they came from in Germany. Now I have another lead to following. Thank you. Sherrie ----- Original Message ----- From: Judy Landauer <geniegal@g14.myrf.net> Date: Wednesday, August 23, 2006 22:27 Subject: [KYJEFFER] Gerabronn, Germany & Landauers To: KYJEFFER-L@rootsweb.com > Sherrie, > > That's OK. I thought it might help to have another pair of eyes. > > The database with Madel is my own from Rootsweb. I would > be REALLY > surprised (and thrilled) if it that family tree belonged to > someone > else! ; ) > > The small town of Gerabronn in Germany is the ancestral home of > my > husband's family. Most of them came over between 1853 and > 1858 when > there was a huge long drought in Wurtemburg and thousands fled > to > other parts of the world. So far I have found one cousin > who is > descended from Madel's sister, Jeanette, and one family that > connects > with the SOLOMON/SALOMON family who was also from Gerabronn > that > married into the Landauers. > > They were all Jewish, which can play hobb with their first > names. > For instance: Madel's father was named Hayum Landauer, but he > went by > the German first name of Heinrich when he did business in > Germany (he > was a Realtor). When he came to America, he changed it to > Hirum, so > it wouldn't sound so outlandish, but according to > Jeanette's > descendant his name was Henry, which is the English form > of > Heinrich . Likewise his wife, Baier Jandorff, used Becky, > or > Rebecca. When Jews changed their first names in America at > this > time, they generally kept the first initial the same, but > changed the > rest, so Madel could become Marx or Max. If someone didn't > know what > his original first name was, but knew him as "Mark" or "Marcus", > then > he could have been buried under a different first name. > The last > name stayed the same. > > So you can see why tracing Jewish families can be very challenging! > > Thank you for listening to my ramblings~ Good luck with > your own > research! > > Judy L. > > On Aug 22, 2006, at 9:46 PM, <sherrie.childers@insightbb.com> > wrote: > > Judy, > > > > I couldn't find Madel Landauer or Caroline Strauss in Cave > Hill > > Cemetery's database. I looked in the 1840 census > nationwide but > > couldn't find him. I went online to Ancestry.com and > someone has > > placed him in a family tree. They gave his birth year as > 1832 in > > Gerahronn, Wurttenberg, Germany, and date of death as > 1859. They > > listed his parents as Hiram Hayum Landauer and Rebecca Baier > Jandorf.> > > Sorry I couldn't find more information. > > > > Sherrie > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Judy Landauer <geniegal@g14.myrf.net> > > Date: Tuesday, August 22, 2006 18:37 > > Subject: Re: [KYJEFFER] CAVE HILL CEMETERY > > To: KYJEFFER-L@rootsweb.com > > > >> Penny, > >> > >> Thank you for your offer! IF your copy has an index, > >> and it > >> wouldn't be too much trouble, could you look up the following?: > >> > >> I would be looking for anyone with the surname LANDAUER, but one > >> in > >> particular is Madel Landauer, who was supposed to have died > >> in > >> Louisville in 1859. Does Cave Hill have a Jewish > >> section? He was > >> Jewish so he might be there. > >> > >> One other name would be Madel's sister, Caroline, who married a > >> Mr. > >> STRAUSS. I don't know his first name. Caroline was > >> born in 1834 in > >> Germany, and, according to family legends, she was supposed to > >> be in > >> Louisville in the 1860's. > >> > >> I know this information is pretty sketchy, but my > >> Louisville > >> Landauers are hard to find. > >> > >> Thank you very much, > >> > >> Judy Landauer > >> > >> > >> On Aug 22, 2006, at 3:33 PM, rpprum@comcast.net wrote: > >> > >>> I ACQUIRED A COPY OF THE CAVE HILL CEMETERY BOOK BY SAMUEL > >> W. > >>> THOMAS TODAY. LET ME KNOW IF I CAN LOOK UP > >> ANYTHING FOR ANYONE. > >>> PENNY > >>> > >>> > >>> ==== KYJEFFER Mailing List ==== > >>> Need to know where to find all the records? Check out > >> the holdings > >>> page on the Metro KyGenWeb site: > >> http://www.rootsweb.com/~kyjeffer/ > >>> holdings/holdings.html > >>> > >>> ============================== > >>> Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for > >>> ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: > >>> http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx > >>> > >>> > >> > >> Judy Landauer > >> geniegal@g14.myrf.net > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> ==== KYJEFFER Mailing List ==== > >> The Jefferson County, Kentucky History and Genealogy page is > >> proud to be a part of the KyGenWeb and the USGenWeb Projects, > >> both of which are not-for-profit endeavors. Visit us at > >> http://www.rootsweb.com/~kyjeffer/ for the latest updates. > >> > >> ============================== > >> View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your > >> ancestors, find > >> marriage announcements and more. Learn more: > >> http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx > >> > > > > > > ==== KYJEFFER Mailing List ==== > > Search the Jefferson List Archives: > > http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl?list=KYJEFFER > > > > or the Jefferson threaded archives: > > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/KYJEFFER > > > > ============================== > > View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your > ancestors, find > > marriage announcements and more. Learn more: > > http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx > > > > > > Judy Landauer > geniegal@g14.myrf.net > > > > > ==== KYJEFFER Mailing List ==== > Need to know where to find all the records? Check out the > holdings page on the Metro KyGenWeb site: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~kyjeffer/holdings/holdings.html > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family > and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx >

Have you checked the spelling: LINDAUER? (Lind-dow-er) Know a family here that spell it that way. Dorothy

Dottie, My last name is pronounced: "Land-ow-er". Three syllables. I have wondered about names like Landherr and such but whenever I have looked a little closer at them they don't seem to fit. There's a Landwehr that is Norwegian, I think.... Misspellings I have found are: Launder, Lanndes, Landour, Landar, and Lanndauer. While I have never found the spelling of SANDAUER, I wonder about that sometimes as the "L" can look like an "S", too. Louisville had a very large Jewish population in the mid-1800's and that is why I think my people went there. Some went to live there and others to visit. My husband's great grandfather, Carl Theodore Landauer, was born there in 1865, and married there in 1895, but the family lived in Canton, IL. They only went there, theoretically, to have any religious rituals done at birth, or to get married. I think his was an arranged marriage. I can just see Carl's dad, Moses, writing to his sister, Caroline; "Can you find a nice girl for Carl? When you do, we'll come down and they can get married and we'll bring her back to Canton to live." which is what happened. Carl married Henrietta NEWBURGER 19 Jun 1895 in Louisville and are found back in Canton by the 1900 census. Judy L. On Aug 22, 2006, at 5:55 PM, Dottie Brentlinger wrote: > Judy, how do you pronounce your last name? Do you say lawnhair? > Have you > considered a spelling change? Like Landherr of which there are some in > Jeffersontown. I don't know anything about the family but some of the > Germans who died in Jeffersontown took their loved ones to Cave > Hill for > burial. Dottie > > Judy Landauer geniegal@g14.myrf.net

Thanks, Teddy, I wasn't aware there was such a site. How neat. Sherrie ----- Original Message ----- From: tdeford45@comcast.net Date: Wednesday, August 23, 2006 15:20 Subject: Re: [KYJEFFER] Picture request from Cave Hill Cemetery To: KYJEFFER-L@rootsweb.com > http://www.raogk.org/kentucky.htm > This is a site that people volunteer to do this kind of thing. > > -- > Teddy > List Mom for the Grayson Co Ky > List, Brady, Vertrees, Ford, > Fulkerson,and Commonwealth > http://www.kygenweb.net/pd-res/deford.html > > -------------- Original message -------------- > From: "D Zumparelli" <skilfulaxe@myway.com> > > > > > May I please request a kind soul to take a pix at Cave Hill > Cemetery for me? I > > am looking for a pix of the gravestone of Cave Hill National > Cemetery Section C > > Site 3038. Andrew J Brown - 4 Mar 1865. Thank you. > skilfulaxe@myway.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > > No banners. No pop-ups. No kidding. > > Make My Way your home on the Web - http://www.myway.com > > > > > > > > ==== KYJEFFER Mailing List ==== > > Search the Jefferson List Archives: > > http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/cgi- > bin/listsearch.pl?list=KYJEFFER > > > > or the Jefferson threaded archives: > > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/KYJEFFER > > > > ============================== > > View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your > ancestors, find > > marriage announcements and more. Learn more: > > http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx > > > > > ==== KYJEFFER Mailing List ==== > Submit your information to the Metro Louisville-Jefferson County > KY History and Genealogy project. See > http://www.rootsweb.com/~kyjeffer/ for information on how to submit. > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added > in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn > more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx >

Sherrie, That's OK. I thought it might help to have another pair of eyes. The database with Madel is my own from Rootsweb. I would be REALLY surprised (and thrilled) if it that family tree belonged to someone else! ; ) The small town of Gerabronn in Germany is the ancestral home of my husband's family. Most of them came over between 1853 and 1858 when there was a huge long drought in Wurtemburg and thousands fled to other parts of the world. So far I have found one cousin who is descended from Madel's sister, Jeanette, and one family that connects with the SOLOMON/SALOMON family who was also from Gerabronn that married into the Landauers. They were all Jewish, which can play hobb with their first names. For instance: Madel's father was named Hayum Landauer, but he went by the German first name of Heinrich when he did business in Germany (he was a Realtor). When he came to America, he changed it to Hirum, so it wouldn't sound so outlandish, but according to Jeanette's descendant his name was Henry, which is the English form of Heinrich . Likewise his wife, Baier Jandorff, used Becky, or Rebecca. When Jews changed their first names in America at this time, they generally kept the first initial the same, but changed the rest, so Madel could become Marx or Max. If someone didn't know what his original first name was, but knew him as "Mark" or "Marcus", then he could have been buried under a different first name. The last name stayed the same. So you can see why tracing Jewish families can be very challenging! Thank you for listening to my ramblings~ Good luck with your own research! Judy L. On Aug 22, 2006, at 9:46 PM, <sherrie.childers@insightbb.com> wrote: > Judy, > > I couldn't find Madel Landauer or Caroline Strauss in Cave Hill > Cemetery's database. I looked in the 1840 census nationwide but > couldn't find him. I went online to Ancestry.com and someone has > placed him in a family tree. They gave his birth year as 1832 in > Gerahronn, Wurttenberg, Germany, and date of death as 1859. They > listed his parents as Hiram Hayum Landauer and Rebecca Baier Jandorf. > > Sorry I couldn't find more information. > > Sherrie > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Judy Landauer <geniegal@g14.myrf.net> > Date: Tuesday, August 22, 2006 18:37 > Subject: Re: [KYJEFFER] CAVE HILL CEMETERY > To: KYJEFFER-L@rootsweb.com > >> Penny, >> >> Thank you for your offer! IF your copy has an index, >> and it >> wouldn't be too much trouble, could you look up the following?: >> >> I would be looking for anyone with the surname LANDAUER, but one >> in >> particular is Madel Landauer, who was supposed to have died >> in >> Louisville in 1859. Does Cave Hill have a Jewish >> section? He was >> Jewish so he might be there. >> >> One other name would be Madel's sister, Caroline, who married a >> Mr. >> STRAUSS. I don't know his first name. Caroline was >> born in 1834 in >> Germany, and, according to family legends, she was supposed to >> be in >> Louisville in the 1860's. >> >> I know this information is pretty sketchy, but my >> Louisville >> Landauers are hard to find. >> >> Thank you very much, >> >> Judy Landauer >> >> >> On Aug 22, 2006, at 3:33 PM, rpprum@comcast.net wrote: >> >>> I ACQUIRED A COPY OF THE CAVE HILL CEMETERY BOOK BY SAMUEL >> W. >>> THOMAS TODAY. LET ME KNOW IF I CAN LOOK UP >> ANYTHING FOR ANYONE. >>> PENNY >>> >>> >>> ==== KYJEFFER Mailing List ==== >>> Need to know where to find all the records? Check out >> the holdings >>> page on the Metro KyGenWeb site: >> http://www.rootsweb.com/~kyjeffer/ >>> holdings/holdings.html >>> >>> ============================== >>> Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for >>> ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: >>> http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx >>> >>> >> >> Judy Landauer >> geniegal@g14.myrf.net >> >> >> >> >> ==== KYJEFFER Mailing List ==== >> The Jefferson County, Kentucky History and Genealogy page is >> proud to be a part of the KyGenWeb and the USGenWeb Projects, >> both of which are not-for-profit endeavors. Visit us at >> http://www.rootsweb.com/~kyjeffer/ for the latest updates. >> >> ============================== >> View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your >> ancestors, find >> marriage announcements and more. Learn more: >> http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx >> > > > ==== KYJEFFER Mailing List ==== > Search the Jefferson List Archives: > http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl?list=KYJEFFER > > or the Jefferson threaded archives: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/KYJEFFER > > ============================== > View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find > marriage announcements and more. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx > > Judy Landauer geniegal@g14.myrf.net

The link below goes to a really interesting article on a cemetery located on among the midway. I never ever knew it existed. I was just there this weekend and never noticed it. Oldham Family Cemetery -- Samuel Oldham, 31 Oct. 1749 -- 31 Jan. 1823 This is just a tidbit from the article that includes surnames: "The back of the marker contains the names of many of those buried in the cemetery, as many as 22 by some accounts. In addition to the Oldhams, they include relations by the names Herr, Mercer, Powers, Taylor and Thomas, many of whom helped settle the Louisville area." _http://www.courier-journal.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060823/COLUMNISTS 04/608230515&SearchID=73254667933495_ (http://www.courier-journal.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060823/COLUMNISTS04/608230515&SearchID=73254667933495)

http://www.raogk.org/kentucky.htm This is a site that people volunteer to do this kind of thing. -- Teddy List Mom for the Grayson Co Ky List, Brady, Vertrees, Ford, Fulkerson,and Commonwealth http://www.kygenweb.net/pd-res/deford.html -------------- Original message -------------- From: "D Zumparelli" <skilfulaxe@myway.com> > > May I please request a kind soul to take a pix at Cave Hill Cemetery for me? I > am looking for a pix of the gravestone of Cave Hill National Cemetery Section C > Site 3038. Andrew J Brown - 4 Mar 1865. Thank you. skilfulaxe@myway.com > > _______________________________________________ > No banners. No pop-ups. No kidding. > Make My Way your home on the Web - http://www.myway.com > > > > ==== KYJEFFER Mailing List ==== > Search the Jefferson List Archives: > http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl?list=KYJEFFER > > or the Jefferson threaded archives: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/KYJEFFER > > ============================== > View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find > marriage announcements and more. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx >

Dear Listers, That cemetery may include the ancestors of my cousin Eli Oldham Jackson from that part of Kentucky. Tom, formerly of Louisville IttyBitty120@aol.com wrote: > The link below goes to a really interesting article on a cemetery located on > among the midway. I never ever knew it existed. I was just there this weekend > and never noticed it. > > Oldham Family Cemetery -- Samuel Oldham, 31 Oct. 1749 -- 31 Jan. 1823 > > This is just a tidbit from the article that includes surnames: > > "The back of the marker contains the names of many of those buried in the > cemetery, as many as 22 by some accounts. In addition to the Oldhams, they > include relations by the names Herr, Mercer, Powers, Taylor and Thomas, many of > whom helped settle the Louisville area." > > _http://www.courier-journal.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060823/COLUMNISTS > 04/608230515&SearchID=73254667933495_ > (http://www.courier-journal.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060823/COLUMNISTS04/608230515&SearchID=73254667933495) >

Will someone please be kind enough to take a pix of a gravestone for me at Cave Hill Cemetery? Thank you. skilfulaxe@myway.com Brown, Andrew J - Section C Lot Number 6 Range 100 Grave 3038 _______________________________________________ No banners. No pop-ups. No kidding. Make My Way your home on the Web - http://www.myway.com

May I please request a kind soul to take a pix at Cave Hill Cemetery for me? I am looking for a pix of the gravestone of Cave Hill National Cemetery Section C Site 3038. Andrew J Brown - 4 Mar 1865. Thank you. skilfulaxe@myway.com _______________________________________________ No banners. No pop-ups. No kidding. Make My Way your home on the Web - http://www.myway.com

Judy, I couldn't find Madel Landauer or Caroline Strauss in Cave Hill Cemetery's database. I looked in the 1840 census nationwide but couldn't find him. I went online to Ancestry.com and someone has placed him in a family tree. They gave his birth year as 1832 in Gerahronn, Wurttenberg, Germany, and date of death as 1859. They listed his parents as Hiram Hayum Landauer and Rebecca Baier Jandorf. Sorry I couldn't find more information. Sherrie ----- Original Message ----- From: Judy Landauer <geniegal@g14.myrf.net> Date: Tuesday, August 22, 2006 18:37 Subject: Re: [KYJEFFER] CAVE HILL CEMETERY To: KYJEFFER-L@rootsweb.com > Penny, > > Thank you for your offer! IF your copy has an index, > and it > wouldn't be too much trouble, could you look up the following?: > > I would be looking for anyone with the surname LANDAUER, but one > in > particular is Madel Landauer, who was supposed to have died > in > Louisville in 1859. Does Cave Hill have a Jewish > section? He was > Jewish so he might be there. > > One other name would be Madel's sister, Caroline, who married a > Mr. > STRAUSS. I don't know his first name. Caroline was > born in 1834 in > Germany, and, according to family legends, she was supposed to > be in > Louisville in the 1860's. > > I know this information is pretty sketchy, but my > Louisville > Landauers are hard to find. > > Thank you very much, > > Judy Landauer > > > On Aug 22, 2006, at 3:33 PM, rpprum@comcast.net wrote: > > > I ACQUIRED A COPY OF THE CAVE HILL CEMETERY BOOK BY SAMUEL > W. > > THOMAS TODAY. LET ME KNOW IF I CAN LOOK UP > ANYTHING FOR ANYONE. > > PENNY > > > > > > ==== KYJEFFER Mailing List ==== > > Need to know where to find all the records? Check out > the holdings > > page on the Metro KyGenWeb site: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~kyjeffer/ > > holdings/holdings.html > > > > ============================== > > Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for > > ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: > > http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx > > > > > > Judy Landauer > geniegal@g14.myrf.net > > > > > ==== KYJEFFER Mailing List ==== > The Jefferson County, Kentucky History and Genealogy page is > proud to be a part of the KyGenWeb and the USGenWeb Projects, > both of which are not-for-profit endeavors. Visit us at > http://www.rootsweb.com/~kyjeffer/ for the latest updates. > > ============================== > View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your > ancestors, find > marriage announcements and more. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx >

Cave Hill has it's entire database on-line. _www.cavehillcemetery.com_ (http://www.cavehillcemetery.com)

I ACQUIRED A COPY OF THE CAVE HILL CEMETERY BOOK BY SAMUEL W. THOMAS TODAY. LET ME KNOW IF I CAN LOOK UP ANYTHING FOR ANYONE. PENNY

Judy, how do you pronounce your last name? Do you say lawnhair? Have you considered a spelling change? Like Landherr of which there are some in Jeffersontown. I don't know anything about the family but some of the Germans who died in Jeffersontown took their loved ones to Cave Hill for burial. Dottie -----Original Message----- From: Judy Landauer [mailto:geniegal@g14.myrf.net] Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2006 6:36 PM To: KYJEFFER-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [KYJEFFER] CAVE HILL CEMETERY Penny, Thank you for your offer! IF your copy has an index, and it wouldn't be too much trouble, could you look up the following?: I would be looking for anyone with the surname LANDAUER, but one in particular is Madel Landauer, who was supposed to have died in Louisville in 1859. Does Cave Hill have a Jewish section? He was Jewish so he might be there. One other name would be Madel's sister, Caroline, who married a Mr. STRAUSS. I don't know his first name. Caroline was born in 1834 in Germany, and, according to family legends, she was supposed to be in Louisville in the 1860's. I know this information is pretty sketchy, but my Louisville Landauers are hard to find. Thank you very much, Judy Landauer On Aug 22, 2006, at 3:33 PM, rpprum@comcast.net wrote: > I ACQUIRED A COPY OF THE CAVE HILL CEMETERY BOOK BY SAMUEL W. > THOMAS TODAY. LET ME KNOW IF I CAN LOOK UP ANYTHING FOR ANYONE. > PENNY > > > ==== KYJEFFER Mailing List ==== > Need to know where to find all the records? Check out the holdings > page on the Metro KyGenWeb site: http://www.rootsweb.com/~kyjeffer/ > holdings/holdings.html > > ============================== > Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for > ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx > > Judy Landauer geniegal@g14.myrf.net ==== KYJEFFER Mailing List ==== The Jefferson County, Kentucky History and Genealogy page is proud to be a part of the KyGenWeb and the USGenWeb Projects, both of which are not-for-profit endeavors. Visit us at http://www.rootsweb.com/~kyjeffer/ for the latest updates. ============================== View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find marriage announcements and more. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx

Penny, Thank you for your offer! IF your copy has an index, and it wouldn't be too much trouble, could you look up the following?: I would be looking for anyone with the surname LANDAUER, but one in particular is Madel Landauer, who was supposed to have died in Louisville in 1859. Does Cave Hill have a Jewish section? He was Jewish so he might be there. One other name would be Madel's sister, Caroline, who married a Mr. STRAUSS. I don't know his first name. Caroline was born in 1834 in Germany, and, according to family legends, she was supposed to be in Louisville in the 1860's. I know this information is pretty sketchy, but my Louisville Landauers are hard to find. Thank you very much, Judy Landauer On Aug 22, 2006, at 3:33 PM, rpprum@comcast.net wrote: > I ACQUIRED A COPY OF THE CAVE HILL CEMETERY BOOK BY SAMUEL W. > THOMAS TODAY. LET ME KNOW IF I CAN LOOK UP ANYTHING FOR ANYONE. > PENNY > > > ==== KYJEFFER Mailing List ==== > Need to know where to find all the records? Check out the holdings > page on the Metro KyGenWeb site: http://www.rootsweb.com/~kyjeffer/ > holdings/holdings.html > > ============================== > Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for > ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx > > Judy Landauer geniegal@g14.myrf.net

Dori, This is the family of the John Bell that I'm searching for. He was the son of John & Mary (Patterson) Bell of Chester Co., Pennsylvania but as an adult he lived in Albemarle Co., Virginia where he served in the Rev. War. He brought his family to Kentucky in 1802. Some sources list 3 marriages for him 1. Anne Tunstall 2. Anna Lilly 3. Mary Henderson. I have found no trace of this second marriage. He did marry Mary Henderson. She was the widow of William Henderson. Her maiden name was Beard. I think that John Bell and his wife Mary may have been buried in the old cemetery in West Louisville. Many of those graves were moved when the cemetery was turned into a park. I may have found them buried in Eastern Cemetery. That cemetery is another bad story but there is a listing for a John Bell there and he once had a headstone. It no longer exists. I have searched several times. Someone told me that my John Bell was actually buried at Long Run Cemetery but I haven't found a gravestone for him there. Thanks for your help. Sharon 1 John Patterson Bell b: Abt. 1747 in Chester Co., Pennsylvania d: March 10, 1831 in Louisville, Jefferson Co., Kentucky . +Ann Temple Tunstall b: 1745 in King & Queen Co., Virginia d: 1799 ... 2 Lucy R. Bell b: in King & Queen Co., Virginia ....... +Henry R. Tunstall m: December 22, 1816 in Louisville, Jefferson Co., Kentucky d: January 24, 1872 ... 2 Sarah T. (Sally) Bell b: in Virginia d: Aft. 1834 in of Stanford, Lincoln Co., Kentucky ....... +Marbell Camden d: Bef. 1831 in of Stanford, Lincoln Co., Kentucky ... 2 Joseph Montgomery Bell b: in Virginia d: September 30, 1856 in St. Louis, Missouri ....... +Elizabeth C. Essex ... *2nd Wife of Joseph Montgomery Bell: ....... +Jane H. Davies m: April 02, 1832 ... 2 Cuthbert T. Bell b: in Virginia d: Bef. March 06, 1832 in Louisville, Jefferson Co., Kentucky ... 2 John Tunstall Bell b: Abt. 1776 in King & Queen Co., Virginia d: Aft. 1834 in Pike Co., Missouri ....... +Griselle (Gracey) Luckey m: August 18, 1800 d: in of Pike Co., Missouri ... 2 Mary Patterson (Molly) (Polly) Bell b: August 27, 1777 in King & Queen Co., Virginia d: September 02, 1836 in Floyd Co., Indiana ....... +Reuben Boulware/ Bowlis m: December 11, 1794 in Albemarle Co., Virginia d: Bef. 1799 in Virginia ... *2nd Husband of Mary Patterson (Molly) (Polly) Bell: ....... +John M. Meriwether b: June 09, 1774 in Louisa Co, Virginia m: August 27, 1799 in Virginia d: January 11, 1854 in Floyd Co., Indiana ... 2 Ann Hill (Nancy) Bell b: November 26, 1784 in Albemarle Co., Virginia d: March 24, 1867 in Danville, Boyle Co., Kentucky ....... +Thomas Hunton b: July 14, 1777 in Albemarle Co., Kentucky m: December 02, 1802 in Louisville, Jefferson Co., Kentucky d: July 27, 1824 in Stanford, Lincoln Co., Kentucky ... 2 Patterson Bell b: 1785 in Virginia d: June 12, 1825 in Louisville, Jefferson Co., Kentucky ....... +Betsy Bridges b: December 03, 1791 m: August 24, 1809 in Louisville, Jefferson Co., Kentucky d: June 11, 1837 in Louisville, Jefferson Co., Kentucky ... 2 Liston T. Bell b: 1790 in Virginia d: 1853 in of Pike Co., Missouri ... 2 Temple Elliott Bell b: 1799 d: 1865 in of St. Louis, Missouri ....... +Mary Byron Hayes b: 1810 m: December 01, 1828 in Lincoln Co., Missouri d: 1844 ... *2nd Wife of Temple Elliott Bell: ....... +Nancy Saphorna Davidson b: 1816 m: Aft. 1844 d: 1849 *2nd Wife of John Patterson Bell: . +Mary Beard b: June 23, 1764 in New Hope, Augusta Co., Virginia m: October 30, 1805 in Lincoln Co., Kentucky d: October 1831 in Louisville, Jefferson Co., Kentucky ----- Original Message ----- From: "Doris Bruns" <dbruns2@tfb.com> To: <KYJEFFER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, August 21, 2006 4:22 PM Subject: Re: [KYJEFFER] Long Run Cemetery > Sharon, > > Which John Bell was that? There is at least one in Cave Hill. > > Dori > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Sharon Pike" <spike00@earthlink.net> > I made a trip to the Long Run Cemetery today. I > was hoping to find the grave of John Bell but I couldn't > find him. John Bell's son, Patterson Bell, married Betsy > Bridges, daughter of Benjamin Bridges who is buried > in the Long Run Cemetery and once owned the land. > Does anyone know the name of Benjamin Bridges wife? > Her gravestone is illegible. I have her name in my records > as Susan but I don't know more than that.

Thanks Alan!

Consort means they were married in those days. -- Teddy List Mom for the Grayson Co Ky List, Brady, Vertrees, Ford, Fulkerson,and Commonwealth http://www.kygenweb.net/pd-res/deford.html -------------- Original message -------------- From: SSG-Murray@webtv.net (Alan Murray) > Sharon, > > The tombstone reads as follows... > > Susanah Consort of Benjamin Bridges Born Dect 30th 1767 Died Sept 9th > 1833 > > > She was the consort of Benjamin Bridges Sr. > > ~Alan > > > ==== KYJEFFER Mailing List ==== > http://www.alhn.org and http://www.ahgp.org > Go here for additional American History resources. > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx >

Middletown museum is across from Kroger's Eastgate on the south side of Shelbyville Rd. Cheers, Laura

The Middletown Museum is located on Shelbyville Rd. in the old city hall. Seems they open about noon on Wednesday and 1:00 PM on Sunday. Bill