There was also one in Dukedom, Ky/Tn............my great granddaddy was a member, Allen McCLAIN.........pj ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Utterback" <billco@arn.net> To: <KYJacksonPurchase-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, December 02, 2005 6:45 PM Subject: [KYJP] Masonic Lodges in the JP Region - Part 1 > My friends - > > In today's post, I am listing the Masonic lodges which were established in > the JP region in the middle 19th century, with their lodge numbers. In a > second posting shortly, I will give a short background on each lodge and > then follow that with a third posting showing the membership in these > lodges in the 1860 -1880 time frame. > > The lodges are as follows: > > Benton Lodge # 205 > Birmingham Lodge # 290 > Baltimore Lodge # 361 > Cynthiana Lodge # 18 > Cynthiana[sic] Lodge # 77 > Dublin Lodge # 237 > Columbus Lodge # 173 > Clinton Lodge # 131 > Feliciana Lodge #172 > Hickman Lodge # 120 > Wadesboro Lodge # 105 (this lodge moved to Murray after Murray became > county seat) > Murray Lodge # 105 > Mayfield Lodge 146 > Mayfield[sic] Lodge # 302 > Moscow Lodge # 200 > Massac [McCracken Co.] Lodge # 360 > New Concord Lodge # 188 > North Ballard Lodge # 332 > Paducah Lodge # 127 > Pleasant Grove Lodge # 318 > Shiloh[Temple Hill] Lodge # 276 > > Some of these lodges were consolidated into other lodges over time, some > disappeared, and, in some cities, additional lodges were added as the > cities grew in population. > > -B > +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > > ==== KYJacksonPurchase Mailing List ==== > For KY Geologic Society maps of the JP region and western KY, visit: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~kygraves/KentuckyCountyMaps.htm > >

I am looking for a listing of the graves, marked and unmarked in the Pinnacle Cemetery in Marshall County. I understand that there are quite a few Culp's there. Any help would be great. Jan Culp

My friends - In today's post, I am listing the Masonic lodges which were established in the JP region in the middle 19th century, with their lodge numbers. In a second posting shortly, I will give a short background on each lodge and then follow that with a third posting showing the membership in these lodges in the 1860 -1880 time frame. The lodges are as follows: Benton Lodge # 205 Birmingham Lodge # 290 Baltimore Lodge # 361 Cynthiana Lodge # 18 Cynthiana[sic] Lodge # 77 Dublin Lodge # 237 Columbus Lodge # 173 Clinton Lodge # 131 Feliciana Lodge #172 Hickman Lodge # 120 Wadesboro Lodge # 105 (this lodge moved to Murray after Murray became county seat) Murray Lodge # 105 Mayfield Lodge 146 Mayfield[sic] Lodge # 302 Moscow Lodge # 200 Massac [McCracken Co.] Lodge # 360 New Concord Lodge # 188 North Ballard Lodge # 332 Paducah Lodge # 127 Pleasant Grove Lodge # 318 Shiloh[Temple Hill] Lodge # 276 Some of these lodges were consolidated into other lodges over time, some disappeared, and, in some cities, additional lodges were added as the cities grew in population. -B +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

To search Lyon County Marriages online go to: http://68.222.251.95/search/ type "temp" for both user and password, "public" works, too. You can search deeds, marriages, etc. The online site won't yet give you a digital copy of the document, but at least you can get the date, book #, and page #'s, to use when calling the clerk's office to ask them to copy it for you (Sarah's pretty nice if she's not super busy!). I don't think they charge outrageous fees like some counties do. There is some overlap between Caldwell and Lyon Counties on marriages. The Caldwell County site is: http://216.135.47.158/search/ and the same words (temp or public) work as both username and password there, too. Unfortunately, parent county Livingston County doesn't as yet have this service (although I've encouraged them to do so, myself!) Christian County is dastardly and charges an EXTREMELY HIGH fee to access their online records. Good Luck searching!! Cindy Kennedy egghead8488@yahoo.com www.geocities.com/egghead8488 KYJacksonPurchase-D-request@rootsweb.com wrote: KYJacksonPurchase-D Digest Volume 05 : Issue 208 Today's Topics: #1 RE:masons in wky ["Shannon McFarlin" #2 Re:Woodmen of the World [AEP44@aol.com] #3 Lyon County Marriage Lookup Reques [Randy Wynn Administrivia: ______________________________Date: Sun, 27 Nov 2005 16:03:56 +0000 From: "Shannon McFarlin" <shannonmcfarlin@hotmail.com> To: KYJacksonPurchase-L@rootsweb.com Subject: RE:masons in wky Hi all-- The subject of the Masons in West Ky. brings to mind a situation in my own family. For years, I couldn't figure out why two branches of my family seemed to split--Both were members of the Knob Creek Church of Christ outside of Dukedom, Ky. In the early 1800s, the Paynes suddenly moved to the Birch Tree, Mo., area and the Foys stayed in the Dukedom area. There also was a split in the church at the same time. I assumed it was because of a dispute over slavery. After much digging, I got a copy of the history of the Knob Creek Church of Christ and discovered that the split in my family and the split in the church was actually over a dispute over whether to allow Masons into the church. It seems inconceivable today--Masons are so much a part of American life now--but during that era the Masons were considered something of which to be afraid, for a variety of reasons. Unfortunately, my great-great-great-grandmother got caught in the middle of our family dispute--she was Sina Payne, and she married Richard Foy. Because of the family and church split, her natural family moved to Missouri and she stayed with the Foys in WKy. because of her marriage into the family. Shannon McFarlin Paris, TN. ______________________________Date: Sun, 27 Nov 2005 14:18:23 EST From: AEP44@aol.com To: KYJacksonPurchase-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re:Woodmen of the World Woodmen of the World is an insurance company and when it was first formed the only policy offered was a simple term insurance that provided members death and monument benefits. There are many gravestones bearing the Woodmen symbol and were originally furnished free of charge to members. Woodmen of the Word has limited historical records of its past members available. This information is available to relatives of the insured and may be requested by emailing SERVICE@WOODMEN.COM with the name of the person to search for, date of birth, date of death and city and state of the person's residence. Andrea Padula ______________________________Date: Sun, 27 Nov 2005 22:29:19 -0600 From: Randy Wynn <sunrwynn@bellsouth.net> To: KYJacksonPurchase-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Lyon County Marriage Lookup Request I have reason to believe that my G-Grandfather, Herman Jasper Wynn, had multiple marriages that I don't have documented. I know that he was married to my G-Grandmother, Nannie Ethel Holmes, on 20 May 1916. I think that he married the wife of his first cousin, Laura Bell Kilgore Wynn, twice probably after 1932. One of the marriages could have been as late as the 1960's. Any help will be appreciated. Randy Wynn --------------------------------- Yahoo! Music Unlimited - Access over 1 million songs. Try it free. --------------------------------- Yahoo! Music Unlimited - Access over 1 million songs. Try it free.

My friends - There has been a considerable amount of interest in my recent posting concerning one of the Masonic lodges in the JP region. Several posts have been made to this List, and I have received a number of others by private e-mail. As a result, I am currently compiling a listing of the lodges in the JP region in the mid-19th century, and I am locating the names of the members of those lodges in the 1860-1880 time range(it may be difficult or impossible to pin down exact years without more extensive research, but those who see a family member's name may wish to investigate further on their own). I hope to have this ready for posting by the end of this week. It may require more than one posting to communicate all of it, and, if so, a second one will soon follow the first. -B ====================================================================

This site describes the history of the organization which is fraternal as well as commercial. http://www.woodmen.com/about/history.cfm David Edrington AEP44@aol.com wrote: >Woodmen of the World is an insurance company and when it was first formed the >only policy offered was a simple term insurance that provided members death >and monument benefits. There are many gravestones bearing the Woodmen symbol >and were originally furnished free of charge to members. > >Woodmen of the Word has limited historical records of its past members >available. This information is available to relatives of the insured and may be >requested by emailing >SERVICE@WOODMEN.COM with the name of the person to search for, date of birth, >date of death and city and state of the person's residence. > >Andrea Padula > > >==== KYJacksonPurchase Mailing List ==== >Interested in learning more about US Land & Property Research? Go to: > http://users.arn.net/~billco/uslpr.htm to see the free on-line course in this subject >authored by the KYJP Listowner. > > >

Yes there are records for Knob Creek C of C and I do have them......... My JOHNSON and TIBBS were charter members ..... Randolph Co, Ar is where my family went also..........I need names, dates, etc to be able to help you........pj

I've heard that before. My Taylors, Walkers, Olives and Hainlines were also members of Knob Creek C of C. Just curious: which faction moved away - the pro-Mason or anti-Mason? To my knowledge all my family stayed in the Dukedom area at this time, although some moved to the Randolph Co, AR area in the late 1800's and were members of the Glaze Creek C of C. They came back to WKY in time for the 1900 census, so I don't know if this was a split or just part of farmers looking for better land. Are copies of the Knob Creek history available? R Ellis Austin, TX ----- Original Message ----- From: "Shannon McFarlin" <shannonmcfarlin@hotmail.com> To: <KYJacksonPurchase-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2005 10:03 AM Subject: RE:masons in wky > Hi all-- > The subject of the Masons in West Ky. brings to mind a situation in my own > family. > For years, I couldn't figure out why two branches of my family seemed to > split--Both were members of the Knob Creek Church of Christ outside of > Dukedom, Ky. > In the early 1800s, the Paynes suddenly moved to the Birch Tree, Mo., area > and the Foys stayed in the Dukedom area. There also was a split in the > church at the same time. I assumed it was because of a dispute over slavery. > After much digging, I got a copy of the history of the Knob Creek Church of > Christ and discovered that the split in my family and the split in the > church was actually over a dispute over whether to allow Masons into the > church. > It seems inconceivable today--Masons are so much a part of American life > now--but during that era the Masons were considered something of which to be > afraid, for a variety of reasons. > Unfortunately, my great-great-great-grandmother got caught in the middle of > our family dispute--she was Sina Payne, and she married Richard Foy. Because > of the family and church split, her natural family moved to Missouri and she > stayed with the Foys in WKy. because of her marriage into the family. > > Shannon McFarlin > Paris, TN. > > ______________________________ >

I have reason to believe that my G-Grandfather, Herman Jasper Wynn, had multiple marriages that I don't have documented. I know that he was married to my G-Grandmother, Nannie Ethel Holmes, on 20 May 1916. I think that he married the wife of his first cousin, Laura Bell Kilgore Wynn, twice probably after 1932. One of the marriages could have been as late as the 1960's. Any help will be appreciated. Randy Wynn

Hi all-- The subject of the Masons in West Ky. brings to mind a situation in my own family. For years, I couldn't figure out why two branches of my family seemed to split--Both were members of the Knob Creek Church of Christ outside of Dukedom, Ky. In the early 1800s, the Paynes suddenly moved to the Birch Tree, Mo., area and the Foys stayed in the Dukedom area. There also was a split in the church at the same time. I assumed it was because of a dispute over slavery. After much digging, I got a copy of the history of the Knob Creek Church of Christ and discovered that the split in my family and the split in the church was actually over a dispute over whether to allow Masons into the church. It seems inconceivable today--Masons are so much a part of American life now--but during that era the Masons were considered something of which to be afraid, for a variety of reasons. Unfortunately, my great-great-great-grandmother got caught in the middle of our family dispute--she was Sina Payne, and she married Richard Foy. Because of the family and church split, her natural family moved to Missouri and she stayed with the Foys in WKy. because of her marriage into the family. Shannon McFarlin Paris, TN.

Woodmen of the World is an insurance company and when it was first formed the only policy offered was a simple term insurance that provided members death and monument benefits. There are many gravestones bearing the Woodmen symbol and were originally furnished free of charge to members. Woodmen of the Word has limited historical records of its past members available. This information is available to relatives of the insured and may be requested by emailing SERVICE@WOODMEN.COM with the name of the person to search for, date of birth, date of death and city and state of the person's residence. Andrea Padula

The recent postings about the Masons of the Jackson Purchase counties relates to an interest of mine. Re: The ELK's My grandfather, Arthur Marion Hayes, from the California Hills/Scott's Corner area of Carlisle County was an Elk. I know that there is still a lovely old Elk's Lodge standing in Paducah. My questions are: Were there Elk's Lodges in Carlisle or Ballard and if so are they still active? Was there a symbol put on gravestones for Elks, similar to the symbol marking the grave of a Mason? Would an existing Lodge still have records from the 1910 to 1940 time period? Re: The WOODSMEN I have seen in the Cemetery books many gravestones that identified the gentleman as having been a Woodsman. Can anyone tell me something about this organization? Just curious Thanks, Kathleen Hill Redondo Beach, CA

Good Evening, Bill! Just read your note about "Temple Hill Lodge, Number 276, Shiloh, Calloway County, Ky. Wish you success in this unique research subject. I too, have an unresearched interest in Mason Lodges in WKY. My early ancestor Mason, Samuel Wilson (1785-1861) d. Ballard Co, buried Palestine Cemetery (now Carlisle County, KY). His headstone (broken) has a Mason symbol. I've wanted to learn but not taken time learn about this subject in WKY. I have a tiny memory of a Mason Lodge in Lovelaceville ? Good Hunting! ed P. S. I am first cousin to Ann Ford for whom you did Gholson Grave location research. -- Ed E. Stith Greif € P.O. Box 782260 € Wichita, Kansas 67278-2260 Office 316-636-5515 € Home 316-636-2428 € Fax 316-636-4649 www.edgreif.com > From: <KYJacksonPurchase-D-request@rootsweb.com> > Reply-To: <KYJacksonPurchase-L@rootsweb.com> > Date: Wed, 23 Nov 2005 06:00:12 -0700 > To: <KYJacksonPurchase-D@rootsweb.com> > Subject: KYJacksonPurchase-D Digest V05 #205 > >

I have been trying to locate relatives and/or their descendants from the late 1800s and the early 1900s from La Center, Ky and Bandana, Ky. They are: William "Willie" L. Hawkins & wife Susie Their children were: Edith, Roma, Angie, James L, William L. and Eva. Also Samuel T. Hawkins and wife Martha Vivian Their children were:Mary, Myrtle, Robert B. and Mildred E. I understand that Willie, Susie, James L. and Edith were buried in the Mount Pleasant Church Cemetery, Ballard County, KY. I would appreciate the address of this church as well as addresses for any of these Hawkins descendants. My grandmother was first cousin to Willie and Samuel T. I have letters that Susie and Vivian wrote to her. Thanks, Anne Gary Gaulding

My friends - I want to take this opportunity to wish all of you a pleasurable and safe Thanksgiving holiday. It was just about this time seven years ago when I established the KYJacksonPurchase-L List. We have a subscribership of roughly 750(it varies from about 730 to 810), and have established a network of folks who are always ready to assist others with their research needs in the Jackson Purchase region. Unfortunately, this year has been one of great time constraints for me, which has limited my postings considerably. However, there is light beginning to show at the end of the tunnel, and I expect my 2006 postings to increase substantially. While perusing some freemasonary material recently, I came across the following: "Temple Hill Lodge, Number 276, Shiloh, Calloway County, Ky. Received a Dispensation prior to August, 1854, Chartered August 18, 1854, Thomas Dodd being first Master. Reports 20 members in 1858." I am going to make an attempt, first through the Grand Lodge of Kentucky, to see if the names of those 20 1858 members can be located. The records of the smaller lodges are often fragmentary at the Grand Lodge, but that is the appropriate place to start, and I will keep you posted. As one whose father, grandfather, great-grandfather and gg-gf were Masons(including one 33rd degree Mason), I have always been interested in this area, and I know that we have a number of Masons on this List. Beyond that, knowing that an early family member was a Mason adds a bit of historical background and helps to flush out some of the more personal aspects that we all like to have, and it also tells us where that early family member resided when no other extant records might do so. Again, best Thanksgiving wishes to you all - and be safe in your travels - we need your expertise as we continue to peer through the mists of time in our ongoing efforts to track those who went before, and who made our Thanksgiving possible. -B =====================================================================

CLARKSVILLE WEEKLY CHRONICLE Clarksville, TN September 8, 1877 ____________________ Death of S. P. Bagwell. It is with much regret that we have to announce the death of S. P. Bagwell, of Graves County, Ky., which occurred August 30th. He was for many years a resident of this county, and was well known to most of our citizens as a school teacher of more than ordinary merit. The particulars of his death are3 about as follows: He had driven his wagon and team to the field to haul a load of oats, and after loading the wagon got on top of it and started to the house. The team unfortunately got into a yellow-jacket's nest; the mules taking fright from the stings ran away, threw Mr. Bagwell off, and so injured him that he died the next day. He was a man of more than ordinary intellect, and possessed a rich fund of knowledge, which, together with the high-toned principles of honor which governed his life, gained him the respect of all who knew him. Though he was eccentric, and his views often differed from those of other men, yet they were always marked by careful thought and study. He leaves a wife and several children to mourn his loss; we deeply sympathize with them in their sad bereavement.

My friends - My earlier information that there was no loss of life in the tornado in Marshall County has been updated to indicate that there was one life lost, and that has been reported to the lists just a few minutes ago by family as Danny Ray Fields. Our collective condolences to his family are extended here. -B =====================================================================

My friends - We join collectively, I am sure, in sending our prayers and hopes for those involved in the tornado which went through Marshall County in the past 36 hours. Fortunately, there appears to be no loss of life, although there was some property destruction. Our southern neighbor, Henry County, in TN, also suffered damage from this same set of storms. This has certainly been a difficult year weather wise, with everything from droughts to flooding to tornados and hurricanes. A word about the General Land Office Records which have been available through the Bureau of Land Management - that site is still unavailable, due to continuing security concerns in which the federal court system has been involved. The GLO and BLM have been trying to get these security issues addressed for nearly two years, and the site has been up and down during this time. In one case, it came back up, but the judge in question was not satisfied and it was ordered to be taken down again. In another case, the BLM itself decided to take the site down, as they had found a loophole through which security could be breached. This continues to be a major loss of an online resource for genealogists. There is something of a work-around for this problem for those who have Ancestry's subscription service, which has the document numbers to actually order the files themselves from NARA. Much slower, but it will get the records to you. On another matter, with the 100% increase in the cost of microfilm reproductions of 19th century from the University of Kentucky Reprographics group(to which I addressed a complaint recently about this incredible increase) after they reopened their facility in August, the use of Interlibrary loan should be gaining popularity. The American Library Association has guidelines for ILL which can be seen at www.ala.org/ala/rusa/rusaprotools/referenceguide/interlibrary.htm Be sure to use the WorldCat resource through the Online Computer Library Catalog(OCLC), in which searches for family names, companies, areas and regions and other topics. WorldCat can be found at www.oclc.org/worldcat/genealogy I also recommend the Godfrey Library's databases, although theirs is a fee based service, but very reasonable at $30/year(www.godfrey.org). I will shortly be posting another of Gordon Wilson's delightful little essays. -B +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Actually, Bill, there was one life lost in Marshall County. My grandmother's cousin, Danny Ray Fields, was killed on Tuesday night in the storms. His obituary can be viewed at: http://collierfuneralhome.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=web.viewobit&obitid=1191 Justin Richardson --- Bill Utterback <billco@ARN.NET> wrote: > My friends - > > We join collectively, I am sure, in sending our > prayers and hopes for those > involved in the tornado which went through Marshall > County in the past 36 > hours. Fortunately, there appears to be no loss of > life, although there was > some property destruction. Our southern neighbor, > Henry County, in TN, also > suffered damage from this same set of storms. This > has certainly been a > difficult year weather wise, with everything from > droughts to flooding to > tornados and hurricanes. > > A word about the General Land Office Records which > have been available > through the Bureau of Land Management - that site is > still unavailable, due > to continuing security concerns in which the federal > court system has been > involved. The GLO and BLM have been trying to get > these security issues > addressed for nearly two years, and the site has > been up and down during > this time. In one case, it came back up, but the > judge in question was not > satisfied and it was ordered to be taken down again. > In another case, the > BLM itself decided to take the site down, as they > had found a loophole > through which security could be breached. This > continues to be a major loss > of an online resource for genealogists. There is > something of a work-around > for this problem for those who have Ancestry's > subscription service, which > has the document numbers to actually order the files > themselves from NARA. > Much slower, but it will get the records to you. > > On another matter, with the 100% increase in the > cost of microfilm > reproductions of 19th century from the University of > Kentucky Reprographics > group(to which I addressed a complaint recently > about this incredible > increase) after they reopened their facility in > August, the use of > Interlibrary loan should be gaining popularity. The > American Library > Association has guidelines for ILL which can be seen > at > www.ala.org/ala/rusa/rusaprotools/referenceguide/interlibrary.htm > Be sure > to use the WorldCat resource through the Online > Computer Library > Catalog(OCLC), in which searches for family names, > companies, areas and > regions and other topics. WorldCat can be found at > www.oclc.org/worldcat/genealogy I also recommend > the Godfrey Library's > databases, although theirs is a fee based service, > but very reasonable at > $30/year(www.godfrey.org). > > I will shortly be posting another of Gordon Wilson's > delightful little essays. > > > -B > +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > > > ==== KYJacksonPurchase Mailing List ==== > For KY Geologic Society maps of the JP region and > western KY, visit: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~kygraves/KentuckyCountyMaps.htm > > __________________________________ Yahoo! FareChase: Search multiple travel sites in one click. http://farechase.yahoo.com

Does anyone know what years the Louisville and Nashville Rail Road was active in Elva, KY? It passed over what is now Sharpe Elva Road. What year were the tracks laid and when did they stop using them? Thanks!