My friends - It appears that a good many of you did not receive my post yesterday, which contained the latest Skills Puzzler. I have found out today that there was an Interenet hub problem yesterday, and I suspect that it was responsible for the mail not reaching everyone as it should. Even today, I received another bounce message with 44 of our List subscribers who use apex.net on it. In that case, since it has been happening all week, I am not sure if it is a hub problem or a problem within the apex.net organization. In any event, I am going to resend the Skills Puzzler. If you received the first one, then now is the time to hit your delete button. If you did not receive it, it is shown below. -B ============================================================ Skills Puzzler # 25 - Church Records > >Over the years, we will work with church records in one form or another. As >a result, it is wise that we be aware of some of the unique characteristics >of such records and of some of the tangents associated with them. > >Among church records as a whole, those of the Catholic Church can contain >gold mines of data, including such things as baptismal records with names >of both sets of grandparents, including the maiden names of each >grandmother. Our Puzzler is based upon a problem connected with such >records. This particular problem occurred in Louisiana, but it could happen >anywhere that there is a large Catholic presence. > >A genealogist was researching her early Louisiana forebears, who were >Catholics. She was fortunate in that she did have some family records, from >Bibles and other documents that had been passed down in the family. She was >also fortunate enough to find some baptismal records in the early 19th >century for her family. The parish priest of Natchitoches Parish(the word >"Parish" in the latter case is a civil term, equivalent to "County", while >the former use of it is a religious term)left some excellent records, which >clearly indicate that the priest baptized several children, over several >years, that were a part of the researcher's family. The priest even had >something unusual for that day - pre-printed forms on which he could fill >in the blanks. The forms read like this "I, Father John Baptiste of the 2nd >parish in Natchitoches, Louisiana, did on the ------- >------of the year of our Lord -------- immerse and baptize------------, >child of------------ >------------and grandchild of ------------------------------------." > >Our problem occurs when the researcher began to look for other records in >Natchitoches Parish for this family. Absolutely nothing was found - not a >single record of any sort for any person bearing the surname for which the >researcher was searching. This Parish is in the west central part of LA, >and is fairly large, with a lake contained within it and the Red River >flows through it. The records are in good condition and are relatively easy >to search. > >Contained somewhere in the narrative above is a clue regarding why our >researcher did not find any records on her family, even though they did >exist, in good number. Our task is to determine what the clue is and where >to look for those records. ============================================================

Bill Attwood wrote: > > Listers, I missed something here.........Didn't receive the skills puzzler from last night, waited all night, Bill I didn't get the puzzler either.. peggy

My Great Great Grandfather was David Bucahanan WADE (1856-1922), brother of Edward Brooks WADE. Their parents were Robert WADE (1789-1879), and Elizabeth HENDERSON (1825-1886) from Calloway Co. KY. Lets compare information! Brad william.b.robison@gte.net -----Original Message----- From: Louise W. Hunter <maclou@arkansas.net> To: KYJacksonPurchase-L@rootsweb.com <KYJacksonPurchase-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Thursday, August 12, 1999 3:09 PM Subject: [KYJacksonPurchase-L] OLIVER- ALBRITTON- WADE in KY >Names in Calloway and Fulton Counties: Tilman L. OLIVER (1822-1871) his >wife, Cynthia Ann ALBRITTON (1830-1881). Their daughter, Martha >Elizabeth OLIVER (1855-1926) m. Edward Brooks WADE(1849-1914). Their >son, Robert Tilman WADE (1874-1937) was brother to my grandmother, >Gertrude Collins WADE. > >I would like to contact others researching any of these names. I need >information, and have information to share.

Sorry, Peggy, didn't look at the return address. I didn't get my puzzler either. Pat Mc ----- Original Message ----- From: chapman, peggy <pbchapman@door.net> To: <KYJacksonPurchase-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, August 14, 1999 5:46 PM Subject: Re: [KYJacksonPurchase-L] New JP Land Grants Text File Now Available "T" Surnames (Part) - File # LG876 & JP Homecoming Update > Bill Attwood wrote: > > > > Listers, I missed something here.........Didn't receive the skills puzzler from last night, waited all night, > > > Bill I didn't get the puzzler either.. > > peggy > > > ==== KYJacksonPurchase Mailing List ==== > Check out the Jackson Purchase Images Page at http://www.rootsweb.com/~kygraves/temp/JPL.htm > for landowner survey maps of portions of the Jackson Purchase, plus other images. Check it often - it changes as new material > is added. > >

Listers, I missed something here.........Didn't receive the skills puzzler from last night, waited all night, but it never came. Would SKS (some kind soul) send it to me please?..........Bill Attwood in lovely Tucson, Arizona Bill Utterback wrote: > My friends - > > I am dropping by today to update the JP Homecoming figures and to let you > know that another file is now ready in the continuing series on land grants > in the Jackson Purchase region of KY. > > First, the JP Homecoming figure is now at 64, as we continue to aim at our > minimum number of 75 subscribers committed to attending such an event, if > it comes to fruition. > > The JP land grants file for today covers part of the surnames which begin > with the letter "T", specifically the surnames Taylor, Tharp, Travis, > Tarver and Tanner. The majority of the file is taken up with the surname > Taylor. > > If you would like a copy of this file, please let me know by requesting > file *LG876*. I will send it to you as a plain text attachment to an e-mail > unless you specify that you need it as a *straight* e-mail message(which > will often skew the columnar alignments). You will receive the complete > file. Time constraints do not allow me to go into the file and extract the > data for a single surname. > > To see which JP land grant files are available, go to the web site: > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~kygraves/JPGrants.htm > > No one has yet taken a stab at the latest Skills Puzzler. It is a difficult > one to work with - about a 9 on our scale of 1-10 in difficulty. I will > return tomorrow with the solution. > > -B > ============================================================ > > ==== KYJacksonPurchase Mailing List ==== > Check out the Jackson Purchase Images Page at http://www.rootsweb.com/~kygraves/temp/JPL.htm > for landowner survey maps of portions of the Jackson Purchase, plus other images. Check it often - it changes as new material > is added. -- Regards, Bill Attwood Tucson, Arizona It's another beautiful day in the Sonoran Desert! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Searching For: Attwood: Bicknor, Hucking, Thurnham, Kent, England Shofner: Green Co., Hardin Co., and Henderson Co., Kentucky Vickers: Vanderburgh Co., Indiana Edwards: Henderson Co., Kentucky Lapsley: Mason Co., Kentucky Lane: Mason Co., Kentucky Callender: Henderson Co., Kentucky

My friends - I am dropping by today to update the JP Homecoming figures and to let you know that another file is now ready in the continuing series on land grants in the Jackson Purchase region of KY. First, the JP Homecoming figure is now at 64, as we continue to aim at our minimum number of 75 subscribers committed to attending such an event, if it comes to fruition. The JP land grants file for today covers part of the surnames which begin with the letter "T", specifically the surnames Taylor, Tharp, Travis, Tarver and Tanner. The majority of the file is taken up with the surname Taylor. If you would like a copy of this file, please let me know by requesting file *LG876*. I will send it to you as a plain text attachment to an e-mail unless you specify that you need it as a *straight* e-mail message(which will often skew the columnar alignments). You will receive the complete file. Time constraints do not allow me to go into the file and extract the data for a single surname. To see which JP land grant files are available, go to the web site: http://www.rootsweb.com/~kygraves/JPGrants.htm No one has yet taken a stab at the latest Skills Puzzler. It is a difficult one to work with - about a 9 on our scale of 1-10 in difficulty. I will return tomorrow with the solution. -B ============================================================

Neither did I !!! ???? MS ---------- > Bill Attwood wrote: > > > > Listers, I missed something here.........Didn't receive the skills puzzler > from last night, waited all night, > > > Bill I didn't get the puzzler either.. > > peggy > > > ==== KYJacksonPurchase Mailing List ==== > Check out the Jackson Purchase Images Page at > http://www.rootsweb.com/~kygraves/temp/JPL.htm > for landowner survey maps of portions of the Jackson Purchase, plus other > images. Check it often - it changes as new material > is added. >

Bill: Count me and my husband in. Great idea. Hilda Fenton hfenton@accesscom.com

Dear List, Looking for burial place of Anton and A.M.Elisabeth KLEVE. They left Westfalia, Germany for St. Louis in 1841. Moved to Kentucky (?when) Son Anton KLEVE moved to Iowa in 1860, after their deaths in Kentucky. Do not know where or when except probably western Kentucky between 1841 and 1860. Any Help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks. Kay in PA

> MORSE AND GRAY MARRIAGE CONTRACT - Deed Book pg. 459, Caldwell Co., KY. > Whereas a Marriage will soon be consumated between N. M. MORSE of Graves > Co., KY and Miss PAULINA B. GRAY of Caldwell County, Kentucky and they > by agreement have made the following contract, viz: each party now > owns lands, town lots, slaves, money and other personal property and by > agreement each party is to own and have the exclusive control of their > separate property, neither party to have any legal interest or control > over the property owned by them respectively outside or beyond the > consent of the other. they each retain all the legal rights of > property which now owned or hereafter acquired is to be the seperate > property of the party now owning or hereafter acquiring the same, > and this is to be the ruling in case of death unless a different one > is to laid down by last will & testament. November 2d 1864. > N. M. Morse > P.B. Gray > STATE OF KENTUCKY > Caldwell County > (Fees paid - Del. to J. L. Morse > for verbal order Nov. 9th 1864)

Please send information on Mary Coleman from te 1840 Calloway Census. Also is there a web site for old funeral home records? Thanks Rose

These are my gt. gt. gt. grandparents who married in Caldwell Co., KY and lived in Graves Co., KY from 1825 to 1831. CALDWELL CO., KENTUCKY Know all men by these present that we JOSEPH COOK and JOHN BRADLEY (crossed out is the name OBADIAH MORSE) held and firmly bound unto the commonwealth of Kentucky in the sum of f50 the payment of Quick Deed and truly to be made in bond ourselves our his or jointly and severally firmly by these present sealed and dated the 21 Dec. 1816. The condition of the above obligation is such that whereas there is a License about to issue for a marriage shortly intended to be solemnized between JOSEPH COOK and PAMELA A. MORSE. Now if it shall always hereafter appear that there is no lawful cause to obstruct said marriage then this obligation to be void. Else to remain in full force vesture. JOSEPH COOKE JOHN BRADLEY FESTE J.W.H. Phelps cco Fathers consent given as to girl in person. Cook of age. FESTE: J.W.H. PHELPS cco

Hi Bill, I spent my vacation this year reviewing cemeteries in Hickman and Graves Counties. They were Via Cemetery near Fulgham, Shiloh Methodist Church Cemetery, Springhill Cemetery, all in Hickman County. Also the Old Wingo Cemetery in Graves County. They are now listed on the web at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~cemetery/ , under the applicable County. I have kinfolks in all but Old Wingo. My lines are: SCOTT, WARD, BRINKLEY, BURGESS, DAVIS OWENS, FISHER, RINGO. Glad to share. Also would like to attend the JP get-together if at a time when I can get there from Atlanta, Ga. Gene Scott (gescott@aol.com)

A lot will depend on the timing but count Larry and I in tentatively. If piggybacking on the Weakley TN homecoming, please aim at the weekend before ..... school out here begins the day after Labor Day and we are both teachers. :-( Jennifer

My friends - I have been pretty well immersed in some activities today, which have prevented me from providing responses to your requests for data from yesterday's Marshall County data post. Since that task is going to take a fair chunk of time this evening, I am going to refrain from making a data post today. Tomorrow, we will close out the week with either an installment in the "Tips" series or a Skills Puzzler. I'll close with the latest number on the JP homecoming interest survey. Three more folks have said they would like to attend, which brings our total to 55, so we continue to go up. I will continue to keep you updated on these numbers. Until tomorrow........ -B ============================================================

Bill, Add my wife and I to the list for the Jackson Purchase gathering. Mike Hodge HODGES, HUGHES, LEAIDECKER, DARNELL, TRAVIS, CARGILL, HAM

My friends - I thought I would drop in and give you the latest update on responses concerning the possibility of our having a Jackson Purchase "homecoming" event next year. When I checked my e-mail this morning at 7 AM, I had 127 messages waiting. I receive about 600 e-mail messages a week, but this was a large number for that early in the morning. Many of them were responses to the homecoming event. As of this moment, we now have 52 subscribers who have responded with an affirmative, "I'll be there", message. If we add family members that were mentioned in the responses, this brings the current total to 59. There were also 9 others who indicated that they would "like to attend", but could not yet commit, for various reasons. Realistically, we can expect about a 10% reduction in attendees at the event, if this goes forward, due to last-minute changes in plans, etc. We may well reach the minimum 75 attendee mark. I'll continue to keep you posted as the responses come in. I'll be back later with today's data posting. -B ============================================================

Names in Calloway and Fulton Counties: Tilman L. OLIVER (1822-1871) his wife, Cynthia Ann ALBRITTON (1830-1881). Their daughter, Martha Elizabeth OLIVER (1855-1926) m. Edward Brooks WADE(1849-1914). Their son, Robert Tilman WADE (1874-1937) was brother to my grandmother, Gertrude Collins WADE. I would like to contact others researching any of these names. I need information, and have information to share.

Bill, What a great idea! Please count me in, I'm looking forward to it already! Patricia Martin pkjmartin@aol.com

We recently passed through the Mayfield area and visited the Rozzell Cemetery looking for the gravesite of William M. Thomas and his wife Sarah Snow Thomas. We didn't find them, but since have learned that there is an Rozzell Addition. We didn't see this anywhere around the church and cemetery we visited. Can anyone give me some information on this addition and its location. Thanks. Doloros