Does anyone have information on children of Roy Brown Howard/Clara Waters, dau. of Spencer J. Waters and Cora Brown? Clara and Roy married in 1902. This would be for Calloway Co. Thank you. Sharon (spencer was my ggf's brother)

For those of you who are interested in locating all the "TIPS" series I re-numbered <g>..... There are TWO separate TIPS which Bill titled TIP # 14 and TWO separate TIPS which are titled TIP # 41...... MY TIP #........SUBJECT........BILL'S TIP # 14......CLUES FROM DEEDS...TIP # 14 (2-20-98) 14-A...THE 8870 FORMULA.....TIP # 14 (2-17-98) 41...A GENEALOGISTS LIBRARY.TIP # 41(6-9l-99) 42....18TH & 19TH CENTURY LEGAL TERMS.................TIP # 41 (10-15-99) The TIPS are found in the Rootsweb Archives: http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl Type in : KYJACKSONPURCHASE This will take you directly to the JP archived messages. If you type just the one word......TIP......as the query, you will bring up the majority of the tips I gave you. NOTE: Tip # 1 thru # 31 are in 1998 Tip # 32 thru 42-C are in 1999. Happy Hunting Diane diane103@aol.com

My brick wall is James P Roach who was born abt1829 and married Martha (Patsy )Hamby in Graves county at Moses Hamby" on January 2,1856.James(Porter?)died on October 26,1864 in the civil war. Martha never remarried and lived in Panther creek until her death in 1889. Thier children were Albert Green born9-25-1886,Andrew Mac born 4-26-1858,James Wilson(Wils)born 12-11-1859;and Sarah born 9-18-1862.Albert married Mary Turner,Wilson married#1Tennessee Smally #2 Lina Riley and Sarah wed Lucian Riley. Martha"s father was James Hamby and I can"t figure out who James was. Lina and Lucian Riley were both chidren of James Ervin (Dick)Riley who was the son of Anderson Riley and Modina Rule Riley.Any info on Martha Hamby Roach or James P Roach would be greatly appreciated as I have tied a knot to the end of this rope and am hanging on. Thanks- Anne

I wonder if anyone can help me locate a copy of a book that I would like to purchase. The book is _Photographic Pot-pourri of Calloway County_ c1987 by Calloway County Library Volunteers. I have written to the publisher, Turner Publishing Company in Paducah, and received a response that it is out of print and not in stock. Any suggestions. A cousin who has the book checked with the library, but they did not know how she could get a copy. She got hers by writing to the publisher a few years ago. Any ideas? Brenda Beaman Parker Houston, TX

Is there anything like a marriage search on line? Sharon

Does Livingston Co/Crittenden Co. have a rootsweb line?

My friends - I am dropping by to let you know that I have another text file ready in our continuing series on the Jackson Purchase land grants. This file covers more surnames which begin with "B", specifically: Bazzell, Badget, Baxter, Banks, Baldridge, Blackmer, Barlow, Barber, Ballard, Brady, Bratton, Blackeny, Bramit, Bager, Baugh, Bayley, Barkeen, Beadles, Beadley, Beard, Baty/Beaty/Beatty, Beasley, Bean and Beauchamp. Subscribers to the lists I host can obtain a copy of this file by sending a message to me requesting *File LG790*. I will send the file as a plain text attachment to an e-mail message unless you specify that you need it as a "straight e-mail". You will receive the complete file - time constraints do not allow me to extract individual surnames from these files. I am working on another file, which I hope to be able to offer tomorrow. -B +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

I've been keeping up with Bill's "Tips" he posts to this list.....they are extremely helpful to go thru, when trying to find my own answers..... Occasionally, during the early "Tip" postings (1998), the e-mail Subject and the Tip Subject were not the same. Trying to locate all the Tips was like participating in his "Skills Puzzles" series.....the Tip was "hidden" within another subject...LOL A couple of months ago, Bill gave me permission to post the Tip Subjects and under what Subject you will find it in the JP Archives...Hope this is helpful to all. I apologize for the length, but wanted to do this as a "one time posting"......Diane - -------------------------------------------------------------------------- TIP......TIP SUBJECT...............ARCHIVE SUBJECT 1...BRAND BOOKS... Look under:NEW LANDOWNER MAP OF GRAVES CO. 2...ROAD ORDERS..................ROAD ORDERS 3...WILLS............................TIP # 3 4...CENSUS DATES.....18TH & 19 CENTURY TERMS 5...KIN NOT IN CENSUS?......TIP # 5 6...WILL WITNESSES............TIP # 6 7...CEMETERY SEARCHES.... Look under: VITAL STATISTICS & TIP # 6 8...MAIDEN NAMES......GRID SURVEY & TIP # 8 9...TAX LISTS & {SR}............TIP # 9 10..SOLDIER'S RECORDS....TIP # 10 11..WHAT NOT TO DO..........TIP # 11 12..MORE ON WILLS............TIP # 12 13..WILLS CONTINUED........TIP # 13 14..CLUES FROM DEEDS.....TIP # 14 14a..8870 FORMULA............TIP # 14 15...BURNED COURTHOUSE..TIP # 15 16...WPA..............................TIP # 16 17 MEDICAL TERMS...........TIP # 17 18...PREPONDERANCE OF EVIDENCE.TIP # 18 19...SOUTHERN CLAIMS COMMISSION..TIP # 19 20...ESTRAY BOOK............TIP # 20 21...THE PROCESS OF PROBATE...TIP # 21 22...FERRY BOATS & RIVER COMMERCE..TIP # 22 23...AUNT LIZZIE SYNDROME....TIP # 23 24...A CONVICT IN MY LINES?....TIP # 24 25-1..BALLARD CO. EXTANT RECORDS..TIP # 25 25-2..CALLOWAY CO. EXTANT RECS.... Look under: Calloway Co. Extant Records 25-3..CARLISLE CO. EXT. RECORDS Look under Carlisle Co. Extant Records 25-4..FULTON CO. EXTANT RECORDS Look under Fulton Co. Extant Records 25-5..GRAVES CO. EXTANT RECORDS Look under: http://users.arn.net/~billco/countyrecs.html#Graves 25-6..HICKMAN CO. EXTANT RECORDS Look under: Hickman Co. Existing Records 25-7..MARSHALL CO. EXTANT RECORDS Look under: Marshall Co. Existing Records 25-8..McCRACKEN CO. EXTANT RECORDS Look under: Existing McCracken Co. Records 26....DEALING WITH DEEDS.....TIP # 26 27....LUNATIC INQUEST BOOK..TIP # 27 28....GIVEN NAMES VS. CALL NAMES....TIP # 28 29....LESSER KNOWN LAND FACTS.......TIP # 29 30.......think this number was skipped over 31....HISTORY OF VITAL STAT RECORDS..TIP # 31 32....THE DDD SCHEDULE......TIP # 32 33....CONSTABLES' FEE BOOKS....TIP # 33 34....CHURCH RECORDS.....TIP # 34 35....AGRICULTURAL SCHEDULES....TIP # 35 36....WAR OF 1812 RECORDS...TIP # 36 37....GATEWAY CITIES & NEWSPAPERS..TIP # 37 38....THE GUERILLAS........TIP # 38 39....THE APPOINTED GUARDIAN....TIP # 39 40-A..LESSER KNOWN NAT'L ARCHIVES..TIP # 40-A 40-B..NATIONAL ARCH. RECS, CONT'D..TIP #40-B 40-C..LESSER NAT'L ARCH. CONT'D..TIP # 40-C 40-D..LESSER NAT'L ARCH. CONT'D...TIP # 40-D 41.....A GENEALOGIST'S LIBRARY....TIP # 41 42.....18TH-19TH CENTURY LEGAL TERMS..TIP # 41 42-A...18-19 CENTURY LEGAL TERMS...TIP # 41-A 42-B...18TH -19TH CENT. " TERMS....TIP # 41-B 42-C...18TH-19TH CENT. " TERMS....TIP # 41-C ================================= this should be up to date with the "TIPS".. If anyone wants the dates of these postings, please e-mail me.....diane diane103@aol.com

In my research I need to identify "Doctor Scott".I don't know if he was a MD or if his first name was Doctor or that was a nickname.Whatever his name was, a great uncle of mine was named Doctor Scott Grigsby in his honor. I know the verbal history and I have to consider it factual because of Uncle Scott. I will tell a brief bit of this history in hope someone can help to creak my brickwall. The time is around the end of the Civil War in KY. A gentleman served in the war, came home, due to his illness, to wife and 3 children. They had 4th child. She died shortly after his birth. 'Doctor Scott' and wife took in the father and his 4 children. Father's name"?" Stom/Stum; mother's name"?" Unsell. Children Mary b.1852 KY? d.1925 TX; Martha about same age married a Rawlings(family has no genealogy on her); James about same age, he and his family came to TX with Mary and her family; George the one born after Civil War, all I know is he is buried around Wickliff. I wish that I could recover the family records lost in a house fire. Any help welcome--Alicia

In a message dated 01/08/2000 9:04:42 AM Central Standard Time, CtTTrusty@aol.com writes: << and we ALL know they might have married over-the-border), but she lived in Hickman after his >> I don't know about "over the border".. where was a marrying place about that time? Janice Watts Lester Nashville Tn

Just wanted to welcome the new folks to the list, and re-post the surnames I'm researching. Fulton Co. Ky. POLLOCK- last known for sure is Cleon Pollock, b. 1869, died 1894 in Hickman, Ky. Need parents. STUBBS- Mattie Stubbs married Cleon Pollock in Hickman area (and we ALL know they might have married over-the-border), but she lived in Hickman after his death. DONNELL-researching family of Miss Artie Donnell Pollock, 1888-1930, Fulton Co., married in1903 to James Henry Pollock of Fulton Co., KY. CARPENTER/CARTER- family of Mary Emma Carpenter, b. 1855, listed as Mary Emma Carter in Hickman cemetery. HART- line of Antoine Hart, listed as born in France, married Rachel HAMBY, 1870, Marshall Co. Ky. HAMBY/HIETT- Marshall Co, ca.1840-1870. TRUSTY/BELCHER- Clement Alvin Trusty m. Della Belcher ca. 1900, owned a pool-hall and rooming house in Hickman,Ky. Any information, lore on them would be appreciated. Enjoy the list--it's great. Cherilyn Trusty Edwardsville, Il.

Howdy Everyone! My ancestor, George Denny, was appointed as one of the commissioners to "let the contract and superintend the construction" of the courthouse in Wadesboro (Calloway Co.) in 1830. It was completed in 1831 and served until 1842 when the county was divided.. There was an earlier courthouse as early as 1823. Does anyone know if the second courthouse is still standing and where it is located? Also: Does anyone have any information on these towns around 1830-44? Williston Pooltown Pleasant Hill I know that the area later became Murray but wondered about families that settled in this area during that time frame. Thanks and have a good day! Barbara Denny George **FUN ONLINE CLASSES for ALL AGES** http://www.bdgonline.com/corselst.htm How to Use the Internet begins Jan. 10, 2000 Online Genealogy Course 1 begins Jan. 10, 2000 Exploring Civil War Sites on the Internet begins Jan. 15, 2000 Luck o' the Irish begins Jan. 15, 2000

Your family and mine must have had the same speller. My father's name was Amy Wilburn Carlock, nickname Jack. After his death I found out he was named for a great grandfather Amery. My experience is local speech can be hard to find on the data we are looking at today.

Folks I've just made a strange discovery. I signed up on the Rootsweb site several weeks ago to receive a notification any item went through the lists with the names I was researching on it. Since my vow for the year is to find the ancestors of my GGF, Cenus Hardy KENNEDY, and since I have been searching for the elusive KENNEDY for years - I decided to be "smart" and just put the name "Cenus" as the name for the search engine to look for - mainly because there are so many spelling of KENNEDY/KENADY/CANADA/CANADY, etc. etc. etc. I am getting anywhere from 10 to 15 notifications per day matching "Cenus" . At first I was so excited because it was such an unusual name it must be him!!!! Do you know how many people misspell census!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I haven't been lucky enough yet to get anything but a misspelled census reference. All this time I've been told that Cenus was an Indian name given him by his part-Indian mother. Others said it was an Irish name given him by the KENNEDYs. Since my GAF was born in February, 1870, do you think they just named him "Census" and didn't know how to spell? Leslie Moore lmoore@ecsis.net Personal homepage: http://www.ecsis.net/~lmoore/ Lake County, TN Gen page: http://www.ecsis.net/lakecounty/history/ Kennedy Family Info: http://www.ecsis.net/~lmoore/kennedy.html Volunteer of Random Acts of Genealogical Kindness at http://www.rootsweb.com/~tnraogk/

My friends - As we round out the first week of postings in 2000, I am going to just visit with you for a moment or two, rather than sending a formal item from the "Tips" series per se. We have a number of excellent researchers on the JP List, and they pass along ideas to me from time to time about shortcuts or tips which they have learned through years of research experience or Internet wanderings. One small axiom that I often mention to folks in private e-mails who seem to be perhaps a bit overly impressed by the Internet and the genealogical information that it seems to hold is this: "The Internet has wonderful indexes - as well as tens of thousands of peoples' opinions on their ancestry." What that tries to convey is the fact that we can find absolutely great indexes(and similar research aids)on the 'Net, which are well done and well sourced. But when we look at the genealogical lineages which are appearing in growing numbers each day on the 'Net, what we see is rarely backed up with source citations, or only partially so. As a result, anything which we see in that form should be checked for accuracy and the source of the data properly cited for our own records. The same is true for any data posts which I make - if one of them connects with your ancestor, and the post is, for example, from the 1830 census of Graves County, make a note of it and then, on your next visit to the library and FHC that you use, check the accuracy of what I posted. There is no question whatever that, in the 20 years or so that I have been transcribing records, I have made numerous errors, no matter how hard I have tried not to do so. It is just the nature of work. Our friend Dave Ray has reminded me in the past few days about the RootsWeb WorldConnect Project. Some of you may already be familiar with it. It is an offering by RootsWeb that allows an individual to post their lineage without having to set up a webpage. It has numerous features associated with it. It can be accessed through the RootsWeb main page at www.rootsweb.com Another of our List friends, Vicky Drake, has been keeping me apprised of her methodical research on the Housden family of TN and Graves Co., KY. She recently had the experience of finding one of her Housden men listed with the name *Houston*, which one would not normally believe to be a variation of the surname Housden. So it is wise to try to think of every possible variation in spelling - even those which seem unlikely - because we never know how the ancestor may have spoken his name, and that is generally the way that the census taker or court clerk would spell it. I have mentioned here before about the Marshall County minister with the name William McGregor - he was of Scotch stock, and we often find his name spelled as "McGreiger". If one thinks of how someone with a slight Scotch brogue would pronounce "McGregor" - something along the lines of "Ma-GRI-ger", it is easy to see how the clerk would spell it. Vicky also reinforces my mention above about using transcripts as a starting point, but always return to the original for final verification. It is really surprising how much is lost by improper transcription. As usual, there will be no data posts per se over the weekend, but I do intend to return with at least one file that I have nearly converted and ready to offer, and I have a unique additional narrative file comprised of the writings of a slave who described her one and only visit to a JP county courthouse in the late 1850's. This African-American woman lived to the age of 108, and I had the honor of interviewing one of her daughters(who was 102 when I talked with her and still mentally sharp)in the 1960's. It was a fascinating two hours that I spent with her, and it was from her that I received this narrative, written by her mother. I think you may find it interesting - and perhaps a little surprising. -B ============================================================

My grandparents were born in Graves County in 1900 and 1901. They married in 1919 and my mother was born in 1920. Does anyone have any clues as to why they would have lied about their ages on my mother's birth certificate? It says they were 25 and 24, not 20 and 19 as they should have been. As far as I can tell from looking at their marriage certificate and bond, everything was done legally. I just wondered if there was some compelling reason or societal issue as to why they would lie about their ages. Thanks. _______________________________________________________________________________________________________ "Genealogy is like putting together a 5,000-piece puzzle when you don't have a picture and some of your edge pieces are missing." _______________________________________________________________________________________________________ Cheri Casper 1220 W. 13th Street Spokane, WA 99204 Phone: (509) 624-4497 Fax: (509) 624-4497 clcasper@sprynet.com OR catpurrson@rocketmail.com Researching -- Allison, Anderson, Carney, Casper, Derrington, Durbin, Helms, James, Johnson, Jordan, Miner, Pennington

Hello everyone. I haven't participated with any info or queries lately so I thought it would be a good time to reintroduce the families I am researching from Calloway County for all the new subscribers. They are BYNUM maybe also spelled BUYNAM, BAYNHAM or BYNAM. I have had little luck in tracking this name. My g g g grandmother was Lavinia Bynum who died in Calloway Co. in 1900. She is buried in Lassiter Cemetery #1 along with her husband Pleasant GARRISON who also died in Calloway Co. in 1890. They lived near the Blood River in the old Brandon's Mill area in the easter part of the county. Any info on either of these two families would be greatly appreciated. I am also researching the surnames MILAM, ROBERTS, and SCOTT. Thanks, Daryl Garrison.

-----Original Message----- From: Terry Smith <seeme@snowhill.com> Subject: Notes From Grandaddy Sullivan's Ledger --Pt. #5 TO CONTINUE: Births, Deaths & Marriages January 26, 1867 - Emily Jane Fields was born March 9, 1892 - and was married to William Howard Sullivan July 17, 1895 - Robert & Radie married (Robert Fields) July 25, 1895 - Vennie & Albert Pile Both married at 8 o'clock A.M. Strickly (promptly ?) First 5 Children's Births: Jan 24, 1893 -Leo Gresham Sullivan was born June 16, 1894 - Howard Alexander Sullivan was born July 4, 1896 - Willus B. Sullivan was born Nov 19, 1899 - Burnice D. Sullivan was born Jany 7, 1902 - RAY SULLIVAN was born Miscellaneous Other Dates: May 7 (no year) - Mr. R.R. Sullivan and Unc...I will... (no other comments but it refers to Grandaddy's brother Reuben Sullivan) Recipes for Veterinary Ointments & Cures (prob. taken from Farm Journals & Almanacs of the day) ---- Note ---PLEASE don't try these on any poor animal. Sounds like the cure could be worse than the problem <G> )-: 1. Receipt for old sores - take Cosmoline, 5 oz & carbolic acid , one Drachm (old way to spell Dram ?). 2. Receipt for Collic(sic) in Horses - take 2 or 3 leaves of tobacco, rope, round bridal (bridle) bits. Put on horse, let stay 30 or 40 min. Take & mix lye soap & turpentine & rub around on the horse's body the width of the saddle girth and in the brest (breast). If it fails, next take those scales off the indide of the horse's legs, tie them up in cotton rags, put some feathers in it & some hen manure & smoke the horse well with it --- by James Allison,VM THE END----------------

Feel Rough!!!!! Took out one disk and ground 5 vertabrae Have to wear collar any time out of house for 3 weeks, so I'm not going out! Back to work in 6-8 weeks CU, BB

-----Original Message----- From: Terry Smith <seeme@snowhill.com> Subject: Note From Grandaddy Sullivan's Ledger - Pt. #4 TO CONTINUE:: 1896 Jan 7- Wrote a letter to Sister Fish Mar 2- My cow braught (birthed) a sick calf Mar 13- Baught(sic) a cow 7 calf of P.P. Green, Price- $25 Apr 14- S.T.B. at Wards Louis Aug 4- S.F. (Samuel Fields), 9 pigs Sept 18- gilt (hog), F.P. (?), 4 pigs Dec 10- I moved (the family) to the Pettit House (Wonder where this was?....) The following notation was added at the bottom of this pg. "Dr. classes - german penetrating liniment will cure rheumatism." Note: Wonder what the formula for this one was? Think I could use it now for myself <s>. 1897 Jan 12- Trafford moved to the Been (Bean ?) farm Sept 19- Wrote a letter to R.H. Fish; one card to Blandville to Bob Jones; one card to Waisel Webb at Bardwell 1898 Jan1 - Samuel A. Fields departed this life Being 53 years, 9 months, 23 days old Note: This was probably taken from his death cert. & gave us the FIRST indication of the actual DOB for G-grandaddy Fields - 4/9/1844. 1900 Dec 30 - We moved to the Sanderson Place (in Ballard Co) 1901 Jan 6- Bid went to Dublin (KY) after his mare 1911 Oct 22 - Bid joined the Baptis (Baptist) church at South Ballard 1915 Mar 25- We moved on No. 9 Island Mar 27- (What) is the age of Mucley's calf? June 1- The water (Miss. River) rose to... NOTE: Daddy hated No. 9 Island & used to say that when he was a child the spring flood waters would come up so close that they could look thru the floor boards (the house was built up on stilts) & see the water, along with rats & snakes too ! When we were children he'd take us to the place he considered closest to where he remem- bered No. 9 Island had been, but it where he pointed to was out in the Miss. River ! That was in the early 1950's & locals said that "Old Muddy" had swallowed it some years before ! >CONTINUED... > >