This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/5AB.2ACE/3104.1.1 Message Board Post: Hi I think that your Robert was the brother to my John D carmack. Their father was Robert Carmack married Elizabeth Murrey Let me know . Cathy John D was my grand father