I post this message on behalf of Karen Ingle-Langendorfer. Can anyone assist her in this endeavor? Donald Murphy Metro Louisville-Jefferson County KyGenWeb Oldham County KyGenWeb Shelby County Ky USGenWeb Archives -------------------------- Hello, my name is Karen Ingle-Langendorfer, I live in Ocean Park, Wa. I have been trying for many years to discover the parents of my 2nd great-grandfather, Elijah Ingle. Here is what I have found to date: Elijah was born on April 23, 1824 in Ballardsville, Henry County, KY. At about the time he was born, Ballardsville could also have been in Oldham County, KY. This information came from Historic Sketches of Walla Walla, Whitman, Columbia and Garfield Counties, Washington Territory, By Frank T. Gilbert, Portland, Oregon, 1882. In another article that I found, he said that he was orphaned as an infant: History of Walla Walla County (Washington): Elijah Ingle, a fruit grower and farmer on the state road, five miles southwest of Walla Walla, a pioneer of September 1862, was born in Henry County, Kentucky, April 23, 1824. He was left an orphan in early infancy, and was reared by an uncle, who took him to Illinois when he was seven years old. He received a public-school education in Edgar county, that state, then worked on a farm until twenty-one, after which he started farming for himself. He followed that industry renting land for the purpose, for a number of years, then removed to Iowa, where he was engaged in the same occupation ten years longer. The Uncle and Aunt who raised Elijah were probably Nealey/Neely and Susan Ann Chastain-Ingle. Nealey was a son of Henry Ingle and Sarah Hanson-Ingle.(according to a list of his heirs from the Perry Co., KY County Clerks office). There is a William Engle/Ingle in the 1810 & 1820 Henry Co., Ky census & in the 1830 Oldham Co., Ky Census: WILLIAM ENGLE/INGLE OF HENRY & OLDHAM COUNTIES, KENTUCKY 1810 HENRY COUNTY CENSUS: WILLIAM ENGLE MALES: 2 – UNDER 10 1 – 26-44 FEMALES: 1 – UNDER 10 1 – 26-44 1820 HENRY COUNTY CENSUS: WILLIAM INGLE MALES: 2 – UP TO 10 1 – 10-16 1 – 26-45 FEMALES: 1 – 16-26 1 – 26-45 SLAVES: MALES: 1 – TO 26 1 – TO 45 1830 OLDHAM COUNTY CENSUS: WILLIAM ENGLE MALES: 2 – UNDER 5 1 – 5-10 1 – 15-20 1 – 20-30 1 – 50-60 FEMALES: 2 – 15-20 1 – 20-30 1 – 50-60 WILLIAM INGLE MALES: 1 – 20-30 FEMALES: 1 – 15-20 He seems to disappear after the 1830 Oldham Co., Ky census. So, he seems to be a viable candidate for Elijah’s father. According to the Kentucky Marriage Records, Winney D. Ingle daughter of William Ingle married Benjamin Hancock in Jefferson Co., KY on Sept. 13, 1820. Benjamin is shown in the 1830 Henry Co., Ky Census and by 1840 Winney and her children are enumerated in the 1840 Edgar Co., IL census near Nealey Ingle. In 1850 Winney and her youngest daughter Nancy are living with her daughter Mary and her husband in Vermillion Co., IN. and Winney’s son George and his wife Elizabeth Lee-Hancock are living near by. Is Winney, Elijah’s aunt, cousin or sister? George Washington Hancock and his brother William (sons of Winney D. Ingle-Hancock) moved to Davis Co., IA in October 1855, according to information found on the internet at: http://abbitcat.topcities.com/genealogy/Narratives/Pottorff/HancockNarrative .html. George W. Hancock is enumerated in the 1860 Lick Creek Tsp., Davis Co., IA Federal Census and his wife Elizabeth in the 1870 Salt Creek Tsp., Davis Co., IA Federal Census. William H. Hancock (brother of George W.) is enumerated in the 1860 & 1870 Lick Creek Tsp., Davis Co., IA Federal Census. Elijah is enumerated in the 1856 Lick Creek Tsp., Davis Co., IA census and in the 1860 Perry Tsp., Davis Co., IA Federal Census. Samuel Martin Ingle married a Rebecca Ross on September 3, 1843 in Edgar Co., IL. On May 10, 1848, Elijah and Samuel Martin Ingle purchased land in Vermillion Co., IN. I have been unable to find any reference to Samuel & Rebecca Ross-Ingle outside of these two documents. No census or other records. Who is Samuel and how is he related to Elijah. The only Ingle in that area that I couldn't account for being alive after 1830 or so, was John Ingle who married Catherine Booker on October 14, 1819 in Jefferson Co., KY. Catherine is shown as a widow in the 1840 Sullivan Co., IN census. The following is from Chuck Booker: The Catherine M. Booker and John Ingle/Engle Family Catherine M. (Maniard?) Booker, daughter of Jacob Booker and wife, Elizabeth, married John Ingle in Jefferson Co., Kentucky on 14 October 1819. The marriage was witnessed by James B. Booker and Henry Ingle. Catherine Booker Ingle, widow, is found on the 1840 Census of Sullivan Co., Indiana on page 125. She lists in her family two sons, one between the ages of 5 and 10, and the other between the ages of 10 and 15. She also lists one male between the ages of 40 and 50, one daughter between the ages 10 and 15, and herself between the ages of 30 and 40. The information on the children of Catharine M. Booker and John Ingle was given to me by Floy Louise Buckles Peterson of Peoria, Illinois, a descendant of James N. Ingle below. William Ingle b. 1820 d. 11/10/1824 Murell Ingle (?girl) b. 24/5/1821 d. with mother on 1840 Census John Wesley Ingle b. 26/10/1825 Carlisle, IN d. 22/1/1879 Moweaqua, IL (Shelby Co.) Marr. Nancy Ann Booker - 1st cousin (daughter of James B. Booker) Comedoer Perry Ingle b. 18/9/1827 Sullivan Co., IN d. before 1840 Census Sally Ann Ingle b. 8/10/1829 Sullivan Co., IN d. 11/??/1829 Sullivan Co., IN James Nelson Ingle b. 28/1/1831 Carlisle, IN d. 27/3/1894 Clyde, KS Samuel Ingle b. d. Betsy Ann Ingle b. d. ?Johnson Jay Ingle b. d. My question on this is, would it be possible for Elijah to have been their child, there is a space in the birth order to have allowed for Elijah's birth in 1824 and if their son William died in 1824,in speculation making Elijah the oldest male of this family, would it have been possible that Catherine allowed Nealey to raise him???? He married my 2nd great-grandmother, Mary Ann Henson, on May 5, 1845 in Vermilion County, IL. On May 10, 1845 he purchased land in Vermillion County, IN, with a Samuel Martin Ingle (I haven't been able to find who his parents are either, but he married in Edgar County, IL). Elijah’s cousin, George Franklin Ingle (son of Nealey) married Elijah's sister-in-law, Sarah E. Henson on November 20, 1851 at Elijah & Mary Ann's home in Indiana. If you have taken the time to read this in totality, I Thank You! If you would like to see other information on Elijah and other Ingle family, my website is "Sands of Time" at http://www.shoalwaterbay.com/karen1/karen.html I look forward to hearing from any or all of you. Karen --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.717 / Virus Database: 473 - Release Date: 7/8/2004