This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: DOWDEN / WILLIAMS / HARDMAN / COLLINS ? Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/4AB.2ACI/371.1.1 Message Board Post: Thank you so much for this census. This is a BIG help! Last night I found on familysearch.com where Emily C. Dowden married Norris I. Williams on 18 AUG 1857 in OLDHAM CO.. KY...... I can see that since her mother was Charlotte....that this is who she named her daughter "Lottie" after. Probably Lottie's name was actually Charlotte as well, and that no doubt is what the C. is for in Emily's middle name. ** At any rate....My great-great grandmother & daughter of Emily C. Dowden-Williams name was Lottie Williams and, was born 27 NOV 1858, in HENRY CO. I assume she was the first child born. I don't know if other children were born to this union or not. Is there a census on Norris I. Williams 1860 and beyond? ** "This where I start getting confused".....my great-grandmother (daughter of Lottie Williams) was born 9 NOV. 1877 in Mt. Washington (BULLITT CO..KY). Her name was Nettie Ree Hardman. Now, on my great-grandmother's death record (Nettie Ree Hardman)...it states she is the daughter of Dave HARDMAN & Lottie COLLINS. ???? And, on my great-great-grandmother's death record (Lottie)...it states her parents being Norris Williams & Emma Dowden. From this I gather that Lottie's maiden name was indeed WILLIAMS. Where does this COLLINS come in at? Was Lottie Williams married to a man by the last name of COLLINS...after she was married to Dave HARDMAN? I am thinking this may be the only name that the informant knew her by. (1) I have no idea when Norris Williams died...must have been befor 1911. The ones on the KY Death Index, the ages don't match up. His wife...Emily C. Dowden-Williams died 05-10-1937 at the age of 88 in BREATHITT CO. ( JACKSON ) (2) I have no idea when Dave Hardman died or what county. (3) Who is COLLINS? (4) Was there a divorce between Nathaniel & Charlotte DOWDEN? (5) Was there a divorce between Dave HARDMAN & Lottie WILLIAMS? Or, did he die first...if so when? (These would be my great-great grandparents) ** Nettie Ree Hardman was married 6 JAN 1895 to Francis Marion FARRIS.....according to the family Bible. NO MARRIAGE RECORD has been found. I would LOVE to find this record. These are my great-grandparents and in 1900 they lived in SHELBY CO. & on the 1920 census on they are in JEFFERSON CO. ....they lived the majority of their married life and are buried in JEFFERSON Co. I can't find them on the 1910 census anywhere. Do you have a book or disk that would answer some of these questions for me? This has become a real dilemma! Or, do you know how I might find some of these answers? I "REALLY" appreciate you taking the time to help me.....this sure is a puzzle. But it seems the counties they lived in were all next to each other. Thank You From The Bottom of My Heart! Sincerely, Linda Farris Antal - cantal@cinci.rr.com