I'm not sure this will answer all your questions, but Dianne Janis may be able to help you put some pieces of the puzzle together. Check out this page on the Oldham County, KyGenWeb page: http://www.rootsweb.com/~kyoldham/fams/watkins-wellmanhistory.html Donnie -----Original Message----- From: David R. Heinz [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Saturday, April 10, 2004 2:34 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Thomas L. Watkins(1817-1877) ?>KY>MO Seeking ancestors and siblings of Thomas L. WATKINS who was probably born in Kentucky 23 Dec 1817. He Died in Howard County, Missouri 17 Jan 1877. Thomas married Elizabeth STIVERS on 10 May 1838 in Henry County, Kentucky.. Elizabeth was born in Kentucky on 04 May 1820, and died 26 Jan 1859 in Howard County Missouri. Children (could have been born in Kentucky and/or Howard County, Missouri): 1. Mary A. Watkins (b. 22 Mar 1839, d. ?). Married Richard R. Tudor on 07 Apr 1859. 2. Martha J. Watkins (b. 23 Sep 1840, d. ?). Married Joseph S. Stevens on 24 Feb 1863. 3. John C. Watkins (b. 10 Sep 1842, d. ?). Married Martha (Mary) Thurman on 13 Nov 1861. 4. Elizabeth C. Watkins (b. 18 Jan 1844, d. 26 Jan 1859). Married John Whitlock. 5. William W. Watkins (b. 29 Nov 1845, d. 26 Jan 1859). 6. Laura A. Watkins (b. 26 Dec 1848, d. 25 Sep 1916). Married Samuel J. Ray on 25 Mar 1867 in Howard County, Missouri. MY LINE. 7. Thomas L. Watkins (b. 25 May 1851, d. 18 Oct 1872). 8. James Watkins (b. 25 Jan 1854, d. ?). 9. George W. Watkins (b. 27 Jul 1856, d. 26 Dec 1857. We have located ancestors of Elizabeth (Stivers) Watkins, but her husband Thomas L. Watkins has alluded us. He was perhaps born in Kentucky, but perhaps elsewhere. His marriage occured in Henry County, Kentucky, so other family members could have originated and/or settled there. Dave David R. Heinz [email protected] --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - File online by April 15th ============================== Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237

Seeking ancestors and siblings of Thomas L. WATKINS who was probably born in Kentucky 23 Dec 1817. He Died in Howard County, Missouri 17 Jan 1877. Thomas married Elizabeth STIVERS on 10 May 1838 in Henry County, Kentucky.. Elizabeth was born in Kentucky on 04 May 1820, and died 26 Jan 1859 in Howard County Missouri. Children (could have been born in Kentucky and/or Howard County, Missouri): 1. Mary A. Watkins (b. 22 Mar 1839, d. ?). Married Richard R. Tudor on 07 Apr 1859. 2. Martha J. Watkins (b. 23 Sep 1840, d. ?). Married Joseph S. Stevens on 24 Feb 1863. 3. John C. Watkins (b. 10 Sep 1842, d. ?). Married Martha (Mary) Thurman on 13 Nov 1861. 4. Elizabeth C. Watkins (b. 18 Jan 1844, d. 26 Jan 1859). Married John Whitlock. 5. William W. Watkins (b. 29 Nov 1845, d. 26 Jan 1859). 6. Laura A. Watkins (b. 26 Dec 1848, d. 25 Sep 1916). Married Samuel J. Ray on 25 Mar 1867 in Howard County, Missouri. MY LINE. 7. Thomas L. Watkins (b. 25 May 1851, d. 18 Oct 1872). 8. James Watkins (b. 25 Jan 1854, d. ?). 9. George W. Watkins (b. 27 Jul 1856, d. 26 Dec 1857. We have located ancestors of Elizabeth (Stivers) Watkins, but her husband Thomas L. Watkins has alluded us. He was perhaps born in Kentucky, but perhaps elsewhere. His marriage occured in Henry County, Kentucky, so other family members could have originated and/or settled there. Dave David R. Heinz [email protected] --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - File online by April 15th

Hi All! As some of you may know, the old County Coordinator for the KYGenWeb counties of Carroll and Gallatin, has de-linked with KYGenWeb and is no longer with us. I am the new CC for both sites! And, I am starting from scratch because he took EVERYTHING with him when he left! So any of you researchers who have new or cross-over material into these counties, please let me know! I would especially love photos and census material <g> actually, anything! Thanks to each and every one of you who have contributed material in the past. You have made our County sites truly great!! So please, if you can... help me with these and I promise not to beg anymore LOL! Suzanne Shephard. CC: Adair Co., KY Carroll Co., KY Gallatin Co., KY Henry Co., KY Stafford Co., VA Yelton & Osborn Family Pages - http://www.freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~csyelton/ ACC: Owen Co., KY

Suzanne: Wow! I admire your grit. You have taken on quite a job. I have been a researcher in several KY counties (I have at least two family lines that lived in various counties of KY from the late 1700s) but have yet to have anything to contribute. I will certainly keep you in mind when I am able to pin down the specifics of my Cobb and Hinton/Henton families. Margie Hinton in California ----- Original Message ----- From: Suzanne Shephard To: [email protected] Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 6:35 AM Subject: Could use some help Hi All! As some of you may know, the old County Coordinator for the KYGenWeb counties of Carroll and Gallatin, has de-linked with KYGenWeb and is no longer with us. I am the new CC for both sites! And, I am starting from scratch because he took EVERYTHING with him when he left! So any of you researchers who have new or cross-over material into these counties, please let me know! I would especially love photos and census material <g> actually, anything! Thanks to each and every one of you who have contributed material in the past. You have made our County sites truly great!! So please, if you can... help me with these and I promise not to beg anymore LOL! Suzanne Shephard. CC: Adair Co., KY Carroll Co., KY Gallatin Co., KY Henry Co., KY Stafford Co., VA Yelton & Osborn Family Pages - http://www.freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~csyelton/ ACC: Owen Co., KY ============================== Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/4AB.2ACI/551 Message Board Post: Is there anyone out there working on the Houghland family of Henry county. Most interested in Aaron Houghland found in the 1810 census

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Harlow, Beckley, Shuck, Rucker, Payton/Peyton, Watkins, Gunther, Smith, Hawkins, Thurmon Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/4AB.2ACI/544.2.1.1.1.1.1 Message Board Post: Do you have a Mary Henderson b. abt. 1720 hanover City VA, died abt. 1774 Albemarle VA. She married Philip Thurmond Sr. Not positive on her first name. Also, do you have any Harlow or Peyton connections from KY. The Ethington and Onan families are probably related through these lines.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Harlow, Beckley, Shuck, Rucker, Payton/Peyton, Watkins, Gunther, Smith, Hawkins, Thurmon Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/4AB.2ACI/544.1.1 Message Board Post: The people you have mentioned in this message are likely somewhere in my family. I haven't figured out the whole connection yet. Do you have anything more on the Elizabeth Thurman you mentioned? My Elizabeth Thurman/Thurmond married first John Parks, then Moses Rucker in 1786. I don't know her family. I have Henderson's in this family and all the other names except Winter are familiar.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/4AB.2ACI/532.1 Message Board Post: The Hiram(Harm) Roberts that married Eva(Ebbie) Aldridge had 2 daugthers Anna Roberts(she married Side ClarK) Litty Ann Roberts married Richard (Dick) Woods. After Harm Roberts died Ebbie married Cleve Troxell Cleve and Ebbie are buried at the Grub Ridge church next to Thomas Troxell grave. Paul A, Troxell

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/4AB.2ACI/532.2 Message Board Post: The Hiram(Harm) Roberts that married Eva(Ebbie) Aldridge had 2 daugthers Anna Roberts(she married Side ClarK) Litty Ann Roberts married Richard (Dick) Woods. After Harm Roberts died Ebbie married Cleve Troxell Cleve and Ebbie are buried at the Grub Ridge church next to Thomas Troxell grave. Paul A, Troxell

The Senate did not vote on the vital records bill yesterday. (HB100) They passed it over and did not vote on it. It still could come up for a vote before the sessions ends. To make your feelings known, contact the Senate: Out of State 502-564-8100 In Kentucky: 1-800-372-7181 You can leave a message for ALL Senators. If you do not live in Kentucky tell them that this bill affects your right to information about your family who died in Kentucky. Other states have solved the identity theft issue by issuing certificates that are non-certified and stamped "For Genealogical Use Only - Not For Identification." Bill Status Line: 1-866-301-9004 HB 100

I've gotten so many requests that I'd better clarify how to get copies of the non-certified death certificates for 1911 - 1953 from the Kentucky Historical Society. You have to GO to the Kentucky Historical Society in Frankfort to copy them yourself for .30. You can also request a library reference person to copy it for you by mail or online. The charge is $5 if you are in-state or $12 if you are out-of-state. If you want more than one certificate use the Staff Researcher service which is hourly. $25 per hour (or $15 if you are a member of the Kentucky Historical Society.) They can copy several in an hour. Please us the online index to get the certificate number and year that it was filed. (usually this is the same year as the death.) One of the easiest to use is the Kentucky Vital Records Project of the Kentucky Gen Web. http://www.rootsweb.com/~kygenweb/kvrp/ You can order the certificates online with a credit card from the Kentucky Historical Society. Go to http://history.ky.gov Click on "Shop the 1792 Store" Click on "research" By mail with a check in advance: Kentucky Historical Society Library 100 W. Broadway Frankfort, KY 40601

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/4AB.2ACI/550 Message Board Post: Searching for Elizabeth Henry b. aprox 1839, Fayette or Bourbon Co KY who married Jacob Applegate b.aprox 1829 Missouri. Have no other info on Elizabeth Henry Applegate. Is a birth look up possible? Toni Maize in Nevada

The Kentucky Death certificates for 1911-1953 are available on microfilm at the Kentucky Historical Society and other genealogical libraries in Kentucky. At KHS the cost is .30 each. The deaths are indexed online at: Rootsweb http://userdb.rootsweb.com/ky/death/search.cgi (1911-2000) Vital Search http://www.vitalsearch-worldwide.com/ (1911-2002) University of Kentucky http://ukcc.uky.edu/~vitalrec/ (1911-1986) This will not change if the legislation passes. Only the later certificates will not be available. Sharon

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: SHUCK, KITSON Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/4AB.2ACI/518.2 Message Board Post: We may have corresponded in the past, your name sounds familiar, but, I am working on the Shuck line too. Andrew Shuck (1733-1803) b. Germany>NJ>VA(now WV)>KY descend from two of his sons: Mathias and Cornelius Shuck Mathias b.1759 NJ dau. Elizabeth m. James Kitson. Their dau, Eliza Kitson m. Levi Shuck, son of Cornelius. The Kitson's and Levi and Eliza Shuck moved from Shelby/Henry Co, KY to Lincoln/Pike Co, MO ca 1840. This is north of St. Louis on the river. If you haven't seen Neal's Genealogy Page, you should check it out. http://homepage.interaccess.com/~nealu/genelogy.htm And I have a database on rootsweb.com's WorldConnect. My sources were lost when I switched computers, but I am trying to put them together a little at a time. http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=millerspost&id=I1140 Just a note-Patsy is a nickname for Martha. I think you were related to a Patsy Shuck. I have a Martha "Patsy" Shuck b. ca 1804, m. Edward Smith and a Mr. Roby, which is probably really Mr. Roberts. Will have to hunt down the source of that information.

The Kentucky Legislature is getting ready to drastically limit access to Kentucky vital records including BIRTHS, DEATHS, MARRIAGES, and DIVORCE. (MILITARY RECORDS are also being limited but I do not know which bill is involved.) You can find the entire bill at: http://www.lrc.state.ky.us/record/04rs/HB100/SCS1.doc Death certificates will still be public record after 50 years but more recent death certificates will only be available to: 1. the decedent's widow or widower, 2. child eighteen (18) years of age or older 3. parent 4. grandparent 5. sibling eighteen (18) years of age or older 6. funeral director handling the decedent's funeral arrangements 7. personal representative of the decedent's estate 8. a named beneficiary of an insurance policy of the decedent 9. a person with a claim against the decedent's estate This means that genealogists can no longer order great-uncle Jasper's death certificate to see his parents' names. Birth records will be have limited access while the person is living but will still be public record after 100 years. Divorce and marriage records will be closed for 70 years. We are very late in the process. Jan 6-introduced in House; to Health and Welfare (H) Jan 15-posted in committee Jan 29-reported favorably, 1st reading, to Calendar with Committee Substitute Jan 30-2nd reading, to Rules; floor amendment (1) filed to Committee Substitute Feb 2-posted for passage in the Regular Orders of the Day for Tuesday, February 3, 2004 Feb 10-3rd reading, passed 94-2 with Committee Substitute, floor amendment (1) Feb 11-received in Senate Feb 17-to State and Local Government (S) Mar 16-reported favorably, 1st reading, to Calendar with Committee Substitute Mar 17-2nd reading, to Rules THIS TUESDAY, March 23, this bill will be voted on in the full Senate. If it passes, it will go to Gov. Fletcher for his signature into law. Call and email your senator and let him know that you want HB 100 to fail. Time is critical! Do it by Monday, at the latest. You can find your Senator at http://www.lrc.state.ky.us/whoswho/whoswho.htm Telephone: 502-564-8100 FAX : 502-564-6543 Postal address: 700 Capitol Avenue, Frankfort, KY 40601 Toll Free Numbers - 2004 Session (only for Kentucky) Bill Status Line: 1-866-301-9004 Legislative Message Line: 1-800-372-7181 This is the same bill that failed in committee during the last Legislative session. The genealogists of the state worked together to stop its passage. Please pass this information along to others.

Ronnie L. Boothby, age 48, died Friday night, March 12, 2004 outside Atlanta, Georgia as a result of an accident. He is survived by one son, Scott Boothby, one brother, Ricky Boothby, and one sister, Brenda Riley. He was preceeded in death by his father, James C. Boothby; his mother, Cecelia Belle (Tee) Downey Boothby, and a brother, Charles Ray Boothby. Memorial services will be held at 6:30 p.m. on Monday, March 22, 2004 at Sholar Funeral Home in Pleasureville, Ky. The obituary will not be published in the Henry County Local until Wednesday. I'm posting the information here for those who might wish to attend the memorial service on Monday. Barbara O'Nan

Oops! I had the wrong price. Please note the correct information below. Sharon Kentucky residents may be interested in attending a series of discussions about Kentucky life in the Great Depression sponsored by the Kentucky Historical Society. The Great Depression started earlier and lasted longer in Kentucky than it did in more urban states. Spend four evenings with noted historians Tracy Campbell and David Hamilton in a series of lively discussions about Kentucky life throughout the 1930s. The four topics to be discussed are: * "Kentucky during the Great Depression." Tracy Campbell begins the series with a detailed look at the impact of the Great Depression on the commonwealth. Thursday, April 8 * "Rural Life and the New Deal." David Hamilton shares how the New Deal affected the lives of rural Kentuckians. Thursday, May 13 * "Franklin Roosevelt in Kentucky." Tracy Campbell returns to discuss the public response to President Roosevelt's visit to Kentucky and his New Deal policy. Thursday, June 10 * "Depression Diversions: 1930s Popular Culture." David Hamilton concludes by exploring books, movies, music, and other aspects of cultural life in the thirties. Thursday, July 8 Background reading materials will be provided and a Depression-era dessert will be served at each session. All sessions begin at 7 p.m. at the Kentucky History Center. The fee is $45 for members of the Kentucky Historical Society or $50 non-KHS members. Preregistration and prepayment are required because attendance is limited. You may register and pay with a credit card by calling Joanie DiMartino at (502) 564-1792 ext. 4467. Kentucky Historical Society Attn: Joanie DiMartino 100 West Broadway Frankfort, KY 40601 (502) 564-1792 ext. 4467 <mailto:[email protected]> [email protected] <http://history.ky.gov/> http://history.ky.gov <http://history.ky.gov/Programs/ky101.htm> http://history.ky.gov/Programs/ky101.htm

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/4AB.2ACI/549 Message Board Post: Searching lineage for Elizabeth Ann Clements married to Fredrick Cullen - daughter Mary Cullen married Tolbert Johnston

Kentucky residents may be interested in attending a series of discussions about Kentucky life in the Great Depression sponsored by the Kentucky Historical Society. The Great Depression started earlier and lasted longer in Kentucky than it did in more urban states. Spend four evenings with noted historians Tracy Campbell and David Hamilton in a series of lively discussions about Kentucky life throughout the 1930s. The four topics to be discussed are: * "Kentucky during the Great Depression." Tracy Campbell begins the series with a detailed look at the impact of the Great Depression on the commonwealth. Thursday, April 8 * "Rural Life and the New Deal." David Hamilton shares how the New Deal affected the lives of rural Kentuckians. Thursday, May 13 * "Franklin Roosevelt in Kentucky." Tracy Campbell returns to discuss the public response to President Roosevelt's visit to Kentucky and his New Deal policy. Thursday, June 10 * "Depression Diversions: 1930s Popular Culture." David Hamilton concludes by exploring books, movies, music, and other aspects of cultural life in the thirties. Thursday, July 8 Background reading materials will be provided and a Depression-era dessert will be served at each session. All sessions begin at 7 p.m. at the Kentucky History Center. The fee is $40 for members of the Kentucky Historical Society or $45 non-KHS members. Preregistration and prepayment are required because attendance is limited. You may register and pay with a credit card by calling Joanie DiMartino at (502) 564-1792 ext. 4467. Kentucky Historical Society Attn: Joanie DiMartino 100 West Broadway Frankfort, KY 40601 (502) 564-1792 ext. 4467 <mailto:[email protected]> [email protected] <http://history.ky.gov/> http://history.ky.gov <http://history.ky.gov/Programs/ky101.htm> http://history.ky.gov/Programs/ky101.htm

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/4AB.2ACI/3.113.1.1.1.2.6 Message Board Post: I have a new e-mail, contact me.