We are soon going to vacation near Lexington, Kentucky, and I wondered if anyone might have tips on researching in Harrison County. Is there a library or genealogical society around there that I should visit? I know that for some other places, there are sometimes better libraries in a nearby county that actually have better genealogy collections than the library in the county you're interested in. Does anybody have any advice about research at the courthouse in Cynthiana? I appreciate any advice. Helen Young Austin TX youngs@mail.utexas.edu

To one and all, Please check http://www.shawhan.com/update.html for today's Perrin History Project Update. I currently have only 13 books remaining that can still be reserved. -- Bob Francis 1920A Butner St. Ft. Eustis, VA 23604 MY HOMEPAGE: http://www.shawhan.com/

Does anyone have an 1860 Harrison County census? Willing to do a look up? Thank you. Judie in Oregon's beautiful Forrest

HI!! Is there any one out there who is a decedent of the following men on the FAYETTE CO. KY. 1810 census?? ALLEN PEARSON, ISRAEL PEARSON, and JONATHAN PEARSON?? La Raine Kingsbury-Pearson

To one and all, Following many good folks' suggestions, I added a Perrin History Project Update web page to my web site. Each time I update the page I'll let you know by simply listing the web page address. Now, wasn't that a simple (and *nice*) solution? :) The address is: http://www.shawhan.com/update.html Bob Francis 1920A Butner St. Ft. Eustis, VA 23604 MY HOMEPAGE: http://www.shawhan.com/

Benjamin NORTH [ m] Mary children: on the 1850 Harrison Co, Kentucky census Louisa NORTH [b] abt 1832 Ky William NORTH [b] abt 1836 Ky James NORTH [b] abt 1842 Ky John NORTH [b] abt 1845 Ky Robert NORTH [b] abt 1850 Ky Robert may have been married to Mary Susan Evaline RANKIN [b] abt 1850/1860 maybe Harrison Co,Kentucky. Mary may have went by the name Evaline. I did find a Robert NORTH & Evaline CARR on the Family Tree Maker # 1194 family disc # 8 . I found a Robert & Evaline NORTH on the 1880 Harrison CO,KY census with No children listed. If this is the Robert & Evaline I'am looking for. This may be their children . James Daniel [b] 28 Feb 1881 Harrison CO, Ky [d] 23 Sep 1961 Covington, Kenton Co,Ky [m] Viola SOWDER / HALEY [b] 15 June 1884 Grant Co,Ky [d] 4 Aug 1930 Indenpendence , Kenton Co,Ky [ d/o ] Lewis SOWDER / HALEY & Mary Elizabeth READNOUR [ These are my gr. grandparents and gr. gr. grandparents ] John [b] abt 18?? , Effie [b] 18?? Jennie [b] abt 1888 Grant Co,Ky [d] abt 1972 Grant Co,Ky [m] 26 Feb 1906 Grant Co,Ky [ to ] Greenberry Sharp FORNASH [b] abt 1878 Pendleton Co,Ky [d] abt 1965 Grant Co,Ky [ s/o ] Richard Jasper FORNASH & Jane Dallas ANTROBUS [ this is info from 3 different sources I have put it all together to see if anyone can make a connection with this family ] [ sources are Family Tree Maker , Microfiche of Williamstown Cemetery Grant Co,Ky , My own records Jennie's name only ] Lillie [b] abt 1878 Grant Co,Ky [d] 13 Oct 1946 Grant Co,Ky [m] ( Feb 1907 Grant Co,Ky [ to ] John T FORNASH [b] 22 June 1871 Grant Co,Ky [d] ) june 1948 Grant Co ,Ky [ a brother to Greenberry FORNASH ] [ sources of information are Family Tree Maker, My records all I have on Lillie is her name] [ I'am hoping by adding this other information someone might beable to see a connection to this family] Lucy [b ] abt 18?? , Ann [b] abt 18?? If you can help me with this family. I would be greatful to hear from you. Thank You..........Karen

To one and all, To separate my Perrin's History Project Updates from my joy of sharing history with you, I have simplified my postings. In the subject heading, when you see a number, it indicates the latest number in the sequence of postings from Perrin book. If you see "Perrin's History Project," that's my latest update on the project. Actually, I'm taking the advice from one of you to post the History Project update on a web page. That way, it will lessen the possibility of complaints. I will let you know when I've created the web page. Today's posting is a bit problematic from our twentieth century perspective. Perrin writes at length about "the savages" (Native Americans) and presents them in a pretty negative light. As students of history, however, we must realize that Perrin was a man of his times and reflected the sentiment of his day concerning Native Americans. It does not excuse his insensitivity but simply puts it in perspective. Enjoy! P.S.--If you've missed my previous historical postings, I have a Perrin Web Page that includes all of my postings to date. You can access it at http://www.shawhan.com/Perrin.html Source: Perrin, pp. 84-86 The Bedfords were early settlers in Paris Precinct, and were from the Old Dominion. The pioneer of the family was Benjamin Bedford, who came to Kentucky about the year 1787, and stopped in Madison County, where he remained one season and raised a crop; then, in the following year, came to this section. His brother, Littleberry Bedford, came out in 1789 and located in this precinct, near where John T. Woodford now lives. He there erected a cabin, and, as he had purchased his land, supposed his title was good. He had not remained long on it, however, when Col. Gist rode up to him one day, and told him to cease further improvements, as he had a prior title, which he showed him. Col. Gist told him he need not leave the premises - that he might stay as long as he wished for an ear of corn per year. But Mr.Bedford was wise enoughh to see in this liberal offer a "consideration," and aware that as soon as he improved the place, he would be unceremoniously dispossessed, he wisely concluded not to remain, but to locate elsewhere. He moved to the place where Mrs. Patsey N Clay now lives. Here he settled and remained until his death, which took place August 29, 1829, in his ninety-second year. He was a great hunter, and said to be the best shot in Kentucky, except Daniel Boone. He paid but little or no attention to agricultural pursuits, but, like many of the pioneers, spent his time mostly in hunting. Greenberry Bedford was another early settler in this neighborhood. He is said to have built the firsty "good" house in what is now Paris Precinct. Hitherto, none but cabins had been put up. and he lived in a very poor one for several years, when he erected a splendid house for the time. He hired a cabinet workman from Virginia to make his furniture, which was of the most substantial kind, and some of which is still in existence. He was a quiet man, peaceful alnong his neighbors, and highly respected by all. He came here and married a Miss Clay, and then returned to Virginia and brought out his negroes. Michael Stoner and James Kenny were supposed to have settled in the present limits of the precinct as early as 1785. Stoner Creek was named for the former. He owned a large body of land on the west side of this stream, but also had fifty acres on the opposite side, which he gave to James Kenny in payment for "stocking" a shovel plow for him. The land is now owned by J. D. Butler; his house is located on it, and it (the land), is worth several car-loads of shovel-plows. Stoner traded 1,000 acres, upon which he settled, to Samuel Clay for a negro woman, a horse and a gun. Stoner was afterward killed at a barn raising, by a log falling on him. Kenny was from Virginia, and settled near where J. D. Butler now lives. He had a son, Capt. James Kenny, who was in the war of 1812, and died of disease while in the service. A man named Bruce settled near Kenny. He had two negro women killed by the Indians, after which he went away and remained until more peaceful times. A man named Gass was also an early settler. He, Col. Gist, Kenny and Stoner, all had surveys on the west side of Stoner Creek. Most of it is now owned by the Clay family, John T. Woodford and George W. Bedford. The Edwards family emigrated to Kentucky and settled in the present precinct about 1794-95. James Marvin came some time prior to the Edwards family, and located the land which Edwards afterward purchased. Jacob Langston, from Virginia, settled here previous to 1790, on the Robert Clark farm. On the east side of the Stoner, one of the earliest settlers was Henry Leer, who came here from Virginia, but was originally from Holland. He settled among the very earliest, locating on the land now owned by his grandson David Leer. His son Daniel succeeded him, and he, in turn, was succeeded by his son David, who now owns the place as above stated, it having been in the family ever since its original purchase. Josiah MeDonald settled on what is now Flat Rock pike, near where the toll-rate stands, about the year 1790. Thomas Rogers settled near the month of Rogers' Creek. The place where Robert Clark now lives was once called Clark's Station. The Indians were numerous then, and hostile. The house was built bullet-proof, and part of it is yet standing, and forms the rear part of Mr. Clark's residence. John Honey came here in 1787, and was from Maryland. He settled on the farm now owned by Col. Lewis Muir. The old house is still standing, and has loop-holes, as the pioneers' houses were all built. It has been "weather-boarded" and modernized, however, since it served as a protection against prowling savages. David Caldwell came from Pennsylvania and settled on Houston Creek previous to 1800, where he died about the year 1828-29. He was a soldier in the Revolutiouary war, and received an injury in one of his arms, which necessitated its amputation after he settled in Kentucky--an operation that was performed by Drs. Todd and Nicholas Warfield. He was a man highly respected in the community. John Reed, William Galloway, Samuel Lyons and Lawrence Protzman were early settlers in the vicinity of Paris. The first three mentioned pre-empted the land on which the city is located. Reed was from Maryland, and made his pre-emption Noveinber 18, 1784. Galloway and Lyons were from Virginia, and made theirs in 1786. Protzman bought a portion of Reed's land and laid out a town, which he called Hopewell, now Paris. James Garrard, afterward Governor, John Edwards, Charles Smith, Edward Walker, Thomas West and James Duncan were also early settlers in the present precinct. Gov. Garrard settted about four miles north of Paris, at "Mount Lebanon," about, 1780-85, and as noted elsewhere. The first session of court was held at his residence. Many other early settlers are entitled, doubtless, to mention in this chapter, but they are gone and forgotten in the long years that have passed, and no one now remembers them. Mr. Collins speaks of "Houston's Station," on the present site of Paris but of it little or nothing is now known. When the first emigrants came to what is now Paris Precinct, not only this immediate section, but nearly the entire State of Kentucky, was a wild region, claimed by numerous tribes of Indians, many of them hostile toward the whites. Our early history bears proof to this state of affairs, in the details given of the long and sanguinary struggle between the two races for supremacy in this rich and beautiful country. The savages let no opportunity to murder, plunder and massacre the whites pass unimproved, and hence the, country contiguous to the early settlements, became a vast graveyard; while in more lonely spots, hunters and isolated settlers with their families were wantonly butchered, their bodies left exposed, when their flesh became the food of wild beasts, their bones the sport of the storm. No early station nor settlement, perhaps, in Central Kentucky, is known, but has connected with it a tale of savaye barbarity, of murder and bloodshed. The pioneer held his life in his hand; he stood ready at any moment to fight, and verily he found his lot cast in a land where he had plenty of it to do. It is said that the early Settler of Kentucky slept with one eye open, and was far more likely to be found without his hat than his gun. These were the circumstances under which this country was reclaimed and wrested from the Indians. When we take a disinterested view of the matter, we have but little ground to blame the Indians for holding on to their hunting-grounds with such a death-like grip. The pale-faces, although they have not held the land so long as did the savages, rather than be driven from their homes now they would fight for them more fiercely than did the savages themselves. And yet the sequel has proven that it was ordained that the Anglo-Saxons should possess this country. The pioneers of Kentucky were but the advance guard--the picket line of the grand army that was to sweep away the last vestige of a crude and imperfect civilization. It was won at it fearful cost, however, but as we look over the beautiful blue grass lands, dotted with luxurious homes, we must admit that it is worth the price paid for it. But the "irrepressible conflict" with the savages was not the only trouble the pioneers had to contend with. From the time they left their comfortable homes beyond the mountains, this toil and privation commenced, and ended not (with many) until their lives ended, and with others until the savages met their Waterloo at the the hands of Mad Anthony Wayne in 1794. As a proof of their hard life, the journey or Thomas Kennedy to the State affords ample illustration, and was but a type of that which fell to the lot of the pioneers generally. ---- Bob Francis 1920A Butner St. Ft. Eustis, VA 23604 MY HOMEPAGE: http://www.shawhan.com/

I agree with Beth! Thamk You Bob Francis for all your time and trouble. Jean Tolle KYHARRIS-D-request@rootsweb.com wrote: > > Subject: > > KYHARRIS-D Digest Volume 99 : Issue 127 > > Today's Topics: > #1 [KYHARRIS-L] Book [GEMERM@aol.com] > > Administrivia: > To unsubscribe from KYHARRIS-D, send a message to > > KYHARRIS-D-request@rootsweb.com > > that contains in the body of the message the command > > unsubscribe > > and no other text. No subject line is necessary, but if your software > requires one, just use unsubscribe in the subject, too. > > ______________________________ > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: [KYHARRIS-L] Book > Date: Fri, 25 Jun 1999 16:59:10 EDT > From: GEMERM@aol.com > To: KYHARRIS-L@rootsweb.com > > Mr. Furnish, > Just a "nice" note to let you know that not everyone that subscribes to the > Harrison Ky List feels the way you do. I was thrilled to have the > opportunity to purchase one of these books and am looking forward to its > arrival. Mr. Francis has done a great service for the researchers of > Harrison County by making this book available. Personally, I would not have > wanted to put myself out on a limb for 250 books. It is wonderful that > someone would! I for one would like to thank him. > Beth Meriwether > Fort Worth, Texas

Kay Withers -----Original Message----- From: kaywithers <kwithers@kih.net> To: Bob Francis <darby@visi.net> Date: Friday, June 25, 1999 1:24 PM Subject: Re: [KYHARRIS-L] Perrin Project--a few thoughts >Bob, >Even though I did not order since I already have a copy, it pleases me to >see all the names of those who are taking advantage of this opportunity. I >am deeply grateful to you for all the time you have devoted to this effort. >We need more like you. You are providing others many hours of enjoyment >when they delve into their new family heirloom. It is something they will >treasure and pass on for generations. >Thank you, >Kay Withers >-----Original Message----- >From: Bob Francis <darby@visi.net> >To: KYHARRIS-L@rootsweb.com <KYHARRIS-L@rootsweb.com> >Date: Friday, June 25, 1999 1:27 PM >Subject: [KYHARRIS-L] Perrin Project--a few thoughts > > >>To one and all, >> >>I am at a bit of a dilemma and need your help in deciding what to do. I >>feel obligated to send a Perrin Book Project update to the group in >>spite of the very vocal objection of one individual. His tone and >>wording was ugly, ugly, ugly! Believe it or not, I'm a rather sensitive >>fellow who doesn't do all that well when lamblasted. However, I do >>understand the fellow's genuine concern that our genealogy groups remain >>"non-commercial;" i.e., no selling of books for the sake of making a >>profit. >> >>Now, many of you know me well by now (though we may never have met in >>person) and understand that my motives for introducing this project were >>as white as the driven snow. I never intended, nor will I ever intend, >>to make a profit off of the group for the sake of making a profit. I >>took on this project because I wanted the Perrin book to come back into >>circulation. My reason for wanting the book back into circulation was >>practical and pragmatic. I tried purchasing the book through >>out-of-print booksellers and was told that the going price for the book >>was $395.00. Recently, one of our group was able to get an offer at >>$325.00--still WAY too expensive for the average buyer. I reasoned at >>the time that perhaps I could find a way to bring the book back into >>print at a reasonable price. I worked with a local book store owner in >>Paris, Kentucky, with the hopes that we could bring the book back into >>print through her. She called me after a couple of months and said that >>she would have to charge at least $65 for the book, not counting >>shipping costs and sales tax. She then offered to bow out of the deal >>and let me contact the publisher directly. We both reasoned that since >>I was not in the bookselling business, I could offer the book at a much >>cheaper rate. As it turned out, she was right. I guess I could have >>charged $65 for the book and reaped a nice profit from it, but making >>money was not my purpose for having the book published. >> >>The publisher was willing to do a reprint, however, his deal was that I >>had to purchase the books upfront. This meant that I had to pay the >>full amount for the books, including shipping, before he would even >>begin to print them. The cost was $6290.00 for 250 books. Now, that's >>a lot of money! At this juncture, I turned to you, my fellow >>genealogists, and asked if you were interested in helping make this >>dream an actuality--and you overwhelmingly responded YES. It was then >>and only then that I proceeded ahead. I did so NOT TO MAKE MONEY but to >>bring this great classic back into publication. >> >>Now, did I make a profit on it? Yep. I did. I guess our fellow would >>have been happier if I took a loss on it? Perhaps losing my shirt would >>somehow make me a less greedy fellow? What he is not taking into >>consideration is the time and energy that I have put into this project, >>not to mention the many long hours I have to look forward to when the >>shipment arrives. I will be up to my ears in Perrin books that I will >>have to box, label, and ship. I have had to buy supplies, sit down >>every night for a couple of hours at a stretch writing out mailing >>labels, not to mention maintaining the order list and making sure >>everything is accurate and everyone taken care of. >> >>So, tell me fellow genealogist, should I post the Perrin update to our >>lists or should you write to me to find out where you stand on the >>order? Help me out here, because frankly, I'm at a loss. I know what >>my friend Bill McCray and some others will say--Bob, don't worry about >>it! But sadly, it's in my nature to be liked and loved. >> >>Well, that's all folks. I would suggest that you respond to me >>privately because I know what happens in these situations. Folks >>sometimes go on a "flame-out" campaign. I don't want the fellow who >>sent the nasty gram to receive, in turn, nasty grams from any of you. >>That only purpetuates ugliness. Always, and at every moment, be kind >>and considerate. >> >>Thanks for your time. >> >>Bob >> >>The "nasty-gram" in all its ugly glory: >> >>> From: Donald L. Furnish <donlfurnish@copper.net> >>> To: Jo Thiessen <jog1@ix.netcom.com> >>> Cc: Bob Francis <darby@visi.net> >>> Subject: Francis & Perrins >>> Date: Tuesday, June 22, 1999 1:45 AM >>> >>> Ms. Thiessen, >>> I would hope that Bob Francis has abused his privileges enough by now. >> >>> Isn't his role at this site to help maintain the info instead of >>selling >>> it or has the Harrison-L gone commercial? >>> I need the info that is, or should I say was, available at this site, >>> but I do not need to see his Perrin sales or anything about it again. >>> I do not think that the charter for the Gen Web includes this or his >>way >>> of getting and maintaining the site info. >>> TWENTY-THREE messages are twenty-two too many! >>> He has his own web site, WHY ISN'T HE USING IT??? >>> >>> Don Furnish >>> Whose GGGGrandfather came to Harrison Co. in 1784. >>> >> >> >

Kay Withers -----Original Message----- From: Bob Francis <darby@visi.net> To: KYHARRIS-L@rootsweb.com <KYHARRIS-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Friday, June 25, 1999 1:27 PM Subject: [KYHARRIS-L] Perrin Project--a few thoughts >To one and all, > >I am at a bit of a dilemma and need your help in deciding what to do. I >feel obligated to send a Perrin Book Project update to the group in >spite of the very vocal objection of one individual. His tone and >wording was ugly, ugly, ugly! Believe it or not, I'm a rather sensitive >fellow who doesn't do all that well when lamblasted. However, I do >understand the fellow's genuine concern that our genealogy groups remain >"non-commercial;" i.e., no selling of books for the sake of making a >profit. > >Now, many of you know me well by now (though we may never have met in >person) and understand that my motives for introducing this project were >as white as the driven snow. I never intended, nor will I ever intend, >to make a profit off of the group for the sake of making a profit. I >took on this project because I wanted the Perrin book to come back into >circulation. My reason for wanting the book back into circulation was >practical and pragmatic. I tried purchasing the book through >out-of-print booksellers and was told that the going price for the book >was $395.00. Recently, one of our group was able to get an offer at >$325.00--still WAY too expensive for the average buyer. I reasoned at >the time that perhaps I could find a way to bring the book back into >print at a reasonable price. I worked with a local book store owner in >Paris, Kentucky, with the hopes that we could bring the book back into >print through her. She called me after a couple of months and said that >she would have to charge at least $65 for the book, not counting >shipping costs and sales tax. She then offered to bow out of the deal >and let me contact the publisher directly. We both reasoned that since >I was not in the bookselling business, I could offer the book at a much >cheaper rate. As it turned out, she was right. I guess I could have >charged $65 for the book and reaped a nice profit from it, but making >money was not my purpose for having the book published. > >The publisher was willing to do a reprint, however, his deal was that I >had to purchase the books upfront. This meant that I had to pay the >full amount for the books, including shipping, before he would even >begin to print them. The cost was $6290.00 for 250 books. Now, that's >a lot of money! At this juncture, I turned to you, my fellow >genealogists, and asked if you were interested in helping make this >dream an actuality--and you overwhelmingly responded YES. It was then >and only then that I proceeded ahead. I did so NOT TO MAKE MONEY but to >bring this great classic back into publication. > >Now, did I make a profit on it? Yep. I did. I guess our fellow would >have been happier if I took a loss on it? Perhaps losing my shirt would >somehow make me a less greedy fellow? What he is not taking into >consideration is the time and energy that I have put into this project, >not to mention the many long hours I have to look forward to when the >shipment arrives. I will be up to my ears in Perrin books that I will >have to box, label, and ship. I have had to buy supplies, sit down >every night for a couple of hours at a stretch writing out mailing >labels, not to mention maintaining the order list and making sure >everything is accurate and everyone taken care of. > >So, tell me fellow genealogist, should I post the Perrin update to our >lists or should you write to me to find out where you stand on the >order? Help me out here, because frankly, I'm at a loss. I know what >my friend Bill McCray and some others will say--Bob, don't worry about >it! But sadly, it's in my nature to be liked and loved. > >Well, that's all folks. I would suggest that you respond to me >privately because I know what happens in these situations. Folks >sometimes go on a "flame-out" campaign. I don't want the fellow who >sent the nasty gram to receive, in turn, nasty grams from any of you. >That only purpetuates ugliness. Always, and at every moment, be kind >and considerate. > >Thanks for your time. > >Bob > >The "nasty-gram" in all its ugly glory: > >> From: Donald L. Furnish <donlfurnish@copper.net> >> To: Jo Thiessen <jog1@ix.netcom.com> >> Cc: Bob Francis <darby@visi.net> >> Subject: Francis & Perrins >> Date: Tuesday, June 22, 1999 1:45 AM >> >> Ms. Thiessen, >> I would hope that Bob Francis has abused his privileges enough by now. > >> Isn't his role at this site to help maintain the info instead of >selling >> it or has the Harrison-L gone commercial? >> I need the info that is, or should I say was, available at this site, >> but I do not need to see his Perrin sales or anything about it again. >> I do not think that the charter for the Gen Web includes this or his >way >> of getting and maintaining the site info. >> TWENTY-THREE messages are twenty-two too many! >> He has his own web site, WHY ISN'T HE USING IT??? >> >> Don Furnish >> Whose GGGGrandfather came to Harrison Co. in 1784. >> > >

To one and all, I am at a bit of a dilemma and need your help in deciding what to do. I feel obligated to send a Perrin Book Project update to the group in spite of the very vocal objection of one individual. His tone and wording was ugly, ugly, ugly! Believe it or not, I'm a rather sensitive fellow who doesn't do all that well when lamblasted. However, I do understand the fellow's genuine concern that our genealogy groups remain "non-commercial;" i.e., no selling of books for the sake of making a profit. Now, many of you know me well by now (though we may never have met in person) and understand that my motives for introducing this project were as white as the driven snow. I never intended, nor will I ever intend, to make a profit off of the group for the sake of making a profit. I took on this project because I wanted the Perrin book to come back into circulation. My reason for wanting the book back into circulation was practical and pragmatic. I tried purchasing the book through out-of-print booksellers and was told that the going price for the book was $395.00. Recently, one of our group was able to get an offer at $325.00--still WAY too expensive for the average buyer. I reasoned at the time that perhaps I could find a way to bring the book back into print at a reasonable price. I worked with a local book store owner in Paris, Kentucky, with the hopes that we could bring the book back into print through her. She called me after a couple of months and said that she would have to charge at least $65 for the book, not counting shipping costs and sales tax. She then offered to bow out of the deal and let me contact the publisher directly. We both reasoned that since I was not in the bookselling business, I could offer the book at a much cheaper rate. As it turned out, she was right. I guess I could have charged $65 for the book and reaped a nice profit from it, but making money was not my purpose for having the book published. The publisher was willing to do a reprint, however, his deal was that I had to purchase the books upfront. This meant that I had to pay the full amount for the books, including shipping, before he would even begin to print them. The cost was $6290.00 for 250 books. Now, that's a lot of money! At this juncture, I turned to you, my fellow genealogists, and asked if you were interested in helping make this dream an actuality--and you overwhelmingly responded YES. It was then and only then that I proceeded ahead. I did so NOT TO MAKE MONEY but to bring this great classic back into publication. Now, did I make a profit on it? Yep. I did. I guess our fellow would have been happier if I took a loss on it? Perhaps losing my shirt would somehow make me a less greedy fellow? What he is not taking into consideration is the time and energy that I have put into this project, not to mention the many long hours I have to look forward to when the shipment arrives. I will be up to my ears in Perrin books that I will have to box, label, and ship. I have had to buy supplies, sit down every night for a couple of hours at a stretch writing out mailing labels, not to mention maintaining the order list and making sure everything is accurate and everyone taken care of. So, tell me fellow genealogist, should I post the Perrin update to our lists or should you write to me to find out where you stand on the order? Help me out here, because frankly, I'm at a loss. I know what my friend Bill McCray and some others will say--Bob, don't worry about it! But sadly, it's in my nature to be liked and loved. Well, that's all folks. I would suggest that you respond to me privately because I know what happens in these situations. Folks sometimes go on a "flame-out" campaign. I don't want the fellow who sent the nasty gram to receive, in turn, nasty grams from any of you. That only purpetuates ugliness. Always, and at every moment, be kind and considerate. Thanks for your time. Bob The "nasty-gram" in all its ugly glory: > From: Donald L. Furnish <donlfurnish@copper.net> > To: Jo Thiessen <jog1@ix.netcom.com> > Cc: Bob Francis <darby@visi.net> > Subject: Francis & Perrins > Date: Tuesday, June 22, 1999 1:45 AM > > Ms. Thiessen, > I would hope that Bob Francis has abused his privileges enough by now. > Isn't his role at this site to help maintain the info instead of selling > it or has the Harrison-L gone commercial? > I need the info that is, or should I say was, available at this site, > but I do not need to see his Perrin sales or anything about it again. > I do not think that the charter for the Gen Web includes this or his way > of getting and maintaining the site info. > TWENTY-THREE messages are twenty-two too many! > He has his own web site, WHY ISN'T HE USING IT??? > > Don Furnish > Whose GGGGrandfather came to Harrison Co. in 1784. >

Mr. Furnish, Just a "nice" note to let you know that not everyone that subscribes to the Harrison Ky List feels the way you do. I was thrilled to have the opportunity to purchase one of these books and am looking forward to its arrival. Mr. Francis has done a great service for the researchers of Harrison County by making this book available. Personally, I would not have wanted to put myself out on a limb for 250 books. It is wonderful that someone would! I for one would like to thank him. Beth Meriwether Fort Worth, Texas

Glad to be home again, and to see the lists are all still working. (Thanks to all of you, espec. the list sitters!). We had rain 6 of the 7 days we were gone, and today, finally, have rain in Central Kentucky! So it's good to see that the rain still "falls on the just and the unjust." We literally got "outta Dodge" at noon on Tues., June 22. Dodge City was interesting, and the history was enlightening there as well as in Hannibal, MO. I was especially interested in how these towns, and others on the route, honored their history and the towns' citizens. Around here this is a big deal also, so when any of you come to town from out of state, be sure to stop by our local museums. You might be surprised at how great they are - You can even donate (or lend) items to go on display if you like! Jo

HI!! Is there any one out there who knows the birth place in KY. for ALLEN PEARSON born abt 1804. His wife SARAH (CASE?) born abt 1809 and their daughter born in the year 1827?? La Raine Kingsbury-Pearson

Thanks, Va.... Appreciate it....I am forwarding this to every one as it is sure a great list to have. jeannie <>< Accomptant.....Accountant Almoner.....Giver of charity to the needy Amanuensis.....Secretary or stenographer Artificer.....A soldier mechanic who does repairs Bailie.....Bailiff Baxter.....Baker Bluestocking.....Female writer Boniface.....Keeper of an inn Brazier.....One who works with brass Brewster.....Beer manufacturer Brightsmith.....Metal Worker Burgonmaster.....Mayor Caulker.....One who filled up cracks (in ships or windows or seems to make them watertight by using tar or oakum-hem fiber produced by taking old ropes apart Chaisemaker.....Carriage maker Chandler.....Dealer or trader; one who makes or sells candles; retailer of groceries Chiffonnier.....Wig maker Clark.....Clerk Clerk.....Clergyman, cleric Clicker.....The servant of a salesman who stood at the door to invite customers; one who received the matter in the galley from the compositors and arranged it in due form ready for printing; one who makes eyelet holes in boots using a machine which clicked. Cohen.....Priest Collier.....Coal miner Colporteur.....Peddler of books Cooper.....One who makes or repairs vessels made of staves & hoops, such as casks, barrels, tubs, etc. Cordwainer.....Shoemaker, originally any leather worker using leather from Cordova/Cordoba in Spain Costermonger.....Peddler of fruits and vegetables Crocker.....Potter Crowner.....Coroner Currier.....One who dresses the coat of a horse with a currycomb; one who tanned leather by incorporating oil or grease Docker.....Stevedore, dock worker who loads and unloads cargo Dowser.....One who finds water using a rod or witching stick Draper.....A dealer in dry goods Drayman.....One who drives a long strong cart without fixed sides for carrying heavy loads Dresser.....A surgeon's assistant in a hospital Drover.....One who drives cattle, sheep, etc. to market; a dealer in cattle Duffer.....Peddler Factor.....Agent, commission merchant; one who acts or transacts business for another; Scottish steward or bailiff of an estate Farrier.....A blacksmith, one who shoes horses Faulkner.....Falconer Fell monger.....One who removes hair or wool from hides in preparation for leather making Fletcher.....One who made bows and arrows Fuller.....One who fulls cloth;one who shrinks and thickens woolen cloth by moistening, heating, and pressing; one who cleans and finishes cloth Gaoler.....A keeper of the goal, a jailer Glazier.....Window glassman Hacker.....Maker of hoes Hatcheler.....One who combed out or carded flax Haymonger.....Dealer in hay Hayward.....Keeper of fences Higgler.....Itinerant peddler Hillier.....Roof tiler Hind.....A farm laborer Holster.....A groom who took care of horses, often at an inn Hooker.....Reaper Hooper.....One who made hoops for casks and barrels Huckster.....Sells small wares Husbandman.....A farmer who cultivated the land Jagger.....Fish peddler Journeyman.....One who had served his apprenticeship and mastered his craft, not bound to serve a master, but hired by the day Joyner / Joiner..... A skilled carpenter Keeler.....Bargeman Kempster.....Wool comber Lardner.....Keeper of the cupboard Lavender.....Washer woman Lederer.....Leather maker Leech.....Physician Longshoreman.....Stevedore Lormer.....Maker of horse gear Malender.....Farmer Maltster.....Brewer Manciple.....A steward Mason.....Bricklayer Mintmaster.....One who issued local currency Monger.....Seller of goods (ale, fish) Muleskinner.....Teamster Neatherder.....Herds cows Ordinary Keeper.....Innkeeper with fixed prices Pattern Maker.....A maker of a clog shod with an iron ring. A clog was a wooden pole with a pattern cut into the end Peregrinator.....Itinerant wanderer Peruker.....A wig maker Pettifogger.....A shyster lawyer Pigman.....Crockery dealer Plumber.....One who applied sheet lead for roofing and set lead frames for plain or stained glass windows. Porter.....Door keeper Puddler.....Wrought iron worker Quarrier.....Quarry worker Rigger.....Hoist tackle worker Ripper.....Seller of fish Roper.....Maker of rope or nets Saddler.....One who makes, repairs or sells saddles or other furnishings for horses Sawbones.....Physician Sawyer.....One who saws; carpenter Schumacker.....Shoemaker Scribler.....A minor or worthless author Scrivener.....Professional or public copyist or writer; notary public Scrutiner.....Election judge Shrieve.....Sheriff Slater.....Roofer Slopseller.....Seller of ready-made clothes in a slop shop Snobscat / Snob.....One who repaired shoes Sorter.....Tailor Spinster.....A woman who spins or an unmarried woman Spurrer.....Maker of spurs Squire.....Country gentleman; farm owner; justice of peace Stuff gown.....Junior barrister Stuff gownsman.....Junior barrister Supercargo.....Officer on merchant ship who is in charge of cargo and the commercial concerns of the ship. Tanner.....One who tans (cures) animal hides into leather Tapley.....One who puts the tap in an ale cask Tasker.....Reaper Teamster.....One who drives a team for hauling Thatcher.....Roofer Tide waiter.....Customs inspector Tinker.....An itinerant tin pot and pan seller and repairman Tipstaff.....Policeman Travers.....Toll bridge collection Tucker.....Cleaner of cloth goods Turner.....A person who turns wood on a lathe into spindles Victualer.....A tavern keeper, or one who provides an army, navy, or ship with food Vulcan.....Blacksmith Wagoner.....Teamster not for hire Wainwright.....Wagon maker Waiter.....Customs officer or tide waiter; one who waited on the tide to collect duty on goods brought in. Waterman.....Boatman who plies for hire Webster.....Operator of looms Wharfinger.....Owner of a wharf Wheelwright.....One who made or repaired wheels; wheeled carriages, etc. Whitesmith.....Tinsmith; worker of iron who finishes or polishes the work Whitewing.....Street sweeper Whitster.....Bleacher of cloth Wright.....Workman, especially a construction worker Yeoman.....Farmer who owns his own land ==== CRABTREE Mailing List ==== ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ CRABTREE-L The Crabtree Genealogy Email Discussion List Sponsored by Crabtree Family Roots Homepage "Worlds Largest Online Repository of Crabtree Genealogy" Web: http://php.indiana.edu/~crabtre Email: gopwins@juno.com 8230 North Fox Hollow Road, Bloomington, Indiana 47408

I think Bob did a great job and provided us all with a wonderful opportunity. Thanks, Bob. Well Done! Judie in beautiful Oregon

To one and all, We are in the "home stretch" on the Perrin book project. To date, I have 228 books reserved out of the 250 that I ordered. You are a great bunch of folks. I am very pleased that out of the hundreds of messages that have come my way concerning our project, I received only one "nasty-gram;" not bad for a project that came from *your* interest in resurrecting this great classic work. The publisher is in the process of printing the books and they should be out to you my mid-August at the latest. Thanks again for your wonderful support, -- Bob Francis 1920A Butner St. Ft. Eustis, VA 23604 MY HOMEPAGE: http://www.shawhan.com/

Well, every one, I guess that I have goofed AGAIN :( :( !! http://www.nicholas.k12.ky.us/community.htm There is a v tacked on the end of the URL (that I sent at first) that should not be there and if you take that off it will work... my son just informed me that when I cut and pasted using the keyboard the v attached itself at the end of the URL.... I am so sorry.... Please forgive me my ingnorance of this contraption and what it can do and NOT do :) if the above URL does not work then I am going to cry like a baby..... Jeannie <>< -----Original Message----- From: Cheryl Cline [mailto:chercolk1@mail.stlnet.com] Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 1999 12:43 PM To: Jean Dalrymple Subject: Re: Unidentified subject! When I try to go to this URL it says there is an error ...am I doing something wrong...is the URL right ? Thanks chey -----Original Message----- From: Jean Dalrymple <motherd@theriver.com> To: KYFLEMIN-L@rootsweb.com <KYFLEMIN-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Tuesday, June 22, 1999 11:47 AM Subject: Unidentified subject! >http://www.nicholas.k12.ky.us/community.htmv > >The above URL is a good one, I would advise all to go there and look at the >pictures, listen to the music and see what they have for sale... who knows, >you may even want to attend the party this winter.... > >Wish that I could, but health will keep me in Arizona. :( > >Enjoy.. jeannie <>< >

Bob Francis, I have an entry for Irwin (Erwin) Boyd marrying Sarah Patton in Bourbon County, KY on February 8, 1810. John Boyd

HI all, I just tried it again and I got right thru.... I did however, on the first go around, before I sent it out to you get a can't go there type of message. But that usually only means that they are really being hit upon, so if you would only just try again later you will be able to get thru... I have sent this to a lot of lists and so it is busy right now.... Try again later... Jeannie <>< -----Original Message----- From: David Anderson [mailto:dandersn@c-zone.net] Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 1999 9:23 AM To: Jean Dalrymple Subject: Re: Unidentified subject! Jean, The URL does not connect. It says the URL is not a valid entry, could it be another? Thanks for sharing! (:-D David Anderson LONGs, ANDERSONs, and VICTORs of Harrison Co. 1820-1860