Kay Withers, last month I went to Frankfort to see all the warrants that ended up in Robertson county. One was to (Governor) James Monroe for 4000+ acres. It was surveyed by Simon Kenton. For that he got about 1/3 to sell off to pay for the survey. This became the area between Claysville and Kentontown. Minor Winn got 4000 acres at Claysville. These were Treasury warrants, that is, from the Va. treasury. They appear to be just political gifts to people who never intended to set foot on any of it, just have it developed/sold off for money by someone else like John Kenton. Next to Monroe was 3200 acres to John Alexander Binns, the father of modern agriculture. His brother/father (I can't remember) was Charles Binns, son of Charles Binns, county clerks for Loudon co for 80 years! I presume Charles used his influence to have John given this grant. 1000 acres ended up in the hands of William Harding, Loudon county surveyor, who presumably got it for surveying. His widow and Charles Binns gave 500 acres to Elihu Harding, Williams brother. Elihu, also a surveyor, settled on the land, which became "Harding's ford", upstream from Claysville. Harding family descendants own much of that land to this day at the end of Harding Road off US62. I believe this whole process is documented in the indexes published by the KY Hist. Soc. for the warrants/grants/surveys. I believe Jillson(sp?) was an editor to these, I don't have the title/reference with me. jim dempsey At 10:59 AM 8/22/99 -0400, you wrote: >Could someone clarify for me what the word 'patent' means when it says >someone patented land? >What is the difference between treasury warrants and military warrants?

Hi, Here is another E.B.L. article that might be of interest. Anyone know the origin of the verb "to Alabamy"? The Cynthiana Democrat, Thursday, May 29, 1919, Page 11, Cols. 3-4: PRICES ---------- In 1865 Compared to Those of the Present Day. ---------- E.B.L. Writes Interestingly. ---------- Editor Democrat: In looking over an old account book of the firm of J.H. Shawhan & Co., Cynthiana, opened out June 5, 1865, I jotted down some items and prices which may be of interest in comparnson [sic; read comparison] to present day prices: Coal oil was $1.000 per gallon; candles 25c per pound for cheap grade and were largely used, one tallow candle furnishing light where now people will be satisfied with only the strongest lights obtainable. Incidentally, it may be remarked if the people who complain so much of the high cost of living and low wages, would practice the same economies in food and dress as they did in those days, and they lived well and enjoyed life fully as much as the people of the present day, there would be little cause for complaint or discontent. An entry indicates that J.B. Curle, father, I think, of W.R. and J.J. Curle, did some clerking at $2.00 per day. Now a boy of 12 or 14 asks from $2.50 to $4.00 for a short days’ work “setting” tobacco. And this reminds me that during the war days of 62-3 I worked early and late for 30 and 40 cents a day, walking sometimes 2 or 3 miles to the field, doing a man’s work with the hoe covering, hilling up and “bushwhacking” corn, and occasionally engineering old Dobbin and the shovel plow along the hill-sides of some of the farms adjacent to the good little city of Oddville. Accumulating the princely sum of $2.00 and feeling as big as a Vanderbiltian financier, I walked into town one morning, barefoot at that, and bought the first pair of shoes with my own earnings, from Uncle Tom English, the honest old hibernian shoe maker of Pike street. Of course they were brogans. Boots were the fashionable footwear for male bipeds in those days, with the occasional exception of a feminish sort of a man who covered his corns with shoes or “pumps.” But excuse this digression. Other prices were: Rio coffee, 35 and 40c; better grades, 50 and 60c a pound; green tea, $2.40 to $3; brown sugar, 22 c; “coffee” sugar, 25c, and pulverized 22c. Customers seem to have preferred the brown. Syrup, $2.25; molasses, $1.60 to $2.00 per gallon; eggs, 17c; hominy, 5c; meal 90c; bacon, home cured, 10 to 30c; beef, 21c, turpentine, $5 per gallon. Later on the price reduced; salt 60c per bushel; matches 45c a box; nails 10c; canned goods, navy beans, dried and evaporated fruits, now staples, were then something of the future. Housewives generally dried their own fruits, mainly sun-dried apples and peaches; saved shelled beans and “put up” canned peaches, blackberries, etc., for table use. Nothing could be more delicious than the peaches and cream served for desert with old-time pound cakes. Brogans were charged at $3 a pair. Boots from $4 to $15. Brown cotton 37-1/2c, white, 35c per yard. Paper collars, 40 and 45c a box of 10c. But few linen collars then worn. Some individual sales were, Joseph Scott, suit of clothes, $98.50; James Logan, a suit for $94; Capt. L. Furnish, L.B.’s father, coat and pants, $63; David Veach, coat, $45, pants, $18; George W. Williams, always a good dresser, paid $115 for a suit. Frank M. Curle $2.50 for a pair of “silk” suspenders; J.J. Good paid $45 for a coat and $15 for a pair of pants. J. Heb. Craigmyle, just setting out, was satisfied with a $6.50 linen coat for warm weather, $4 shoes and 75c socks for his go-to-meeting-sparking trips. Lark Garnett, still youthful and debonnaire, also was a patron who indulged in fine raiment. He’s still a candidate. Judge Marcus L. Broadwell, fine looking and a well-dresser, bought as much as $1.25 worth of Mason’s blacking at a time--usual price, 10 to 12-1/2c per box. C.G. Land was a good customer in groceries, buying sugar, coffee, etc., in quantity. A barrel of “choice” sugar was charged to a customer at $44.20. A barrel of whiskey invoiced at $127.89. Suits of burial clothes went from $29 to $96. In one case the shoes, charged at $2, were “to be returned.” Guess they were intended as temporary coverings and not for burial purposes. Fennell Brothers, then recent comers from the Old Dominion, were also patrons. John Craddock was charged 50 cents for cigars. Could it have been Col. J.G.? Some one penciled notes on the “Topics of the Time” on a page after the firm had ceased business, which indicate preparation for a speech, perhaps in a debating society. Mentioning the questions as “Prohibition,” “Woman’s Rights,” “The Tariff”--still unsettled like the poor, “always with us.” His lack of sufficient familiarity with the first four to discuss them, he orates on the tariff thusly: “Although the tariff suestion [sic; read question] is very old it excites as much interest as it did in its earlier existence. One of the causes of the great interest taken in the subject is that it affects the people directly. The manufacturer who grows rich through it is in favor of a tariff and gives all his influence and energy toward sustaining it. On the other hand the majority of the wisest men, especially men of an agricultural district, are opposed to it. Our State has the honor of sending to Congress the leader of the tariff reform party, Hon. John G. Carlisle. As for the Irish question, I am not ready to express an opinion, but if all Irishmen are like one who soon after landing was asked what ticket he would vote replied: ‘Have yez a givernment in America?’ On being told we had he said, “Then I’ll vote forninst the givernment.’” Here he Alabamied, and so must this scrap. Too long already, but one thing more: The firm advertised and did a growing business in their time, groceries and men’s wear. An entry shows they paid A.J. Morey $47 for advertising at one time and on dissolution of the partnership of Joseph H. & H.W. Shawhan, paid $5 for a brief notice of the fact in the “News.” Entries also indicate that a certain young man, “Billie Adams,” was connected with the Cynthiana News in some way. Anyway, a hat purchased by him was charged to A.J. Perhaps ‘twas an election bet, as Billie always was a winner. E.B.L.

Hi all, Was trying to do some work with the Social Security Death Benefits Index at Ancestry.com and would like to limit my search to those whose last residence or benefit address was in Harrison County, Ky. Are there any other ZIP codes for Harrison County, Ky. other than 41031 for Cynthiana and 41003 for Berry? (Thought I'd post the question to this list in case others might need to know the answer.) Thanks.

This subject can become quite complicated. A land "patent" and a land "grant" are essentially the same thing - a document that conveys unappropriated land from a government unto an individual. Virginia law calls them "patents" prior to 1775 and "grants" after 10 October 1779. (from 1775 to 1779 I don't know what the legal status was!). A "patent" was issued by the King of Great Britain through his agent, the colonial Governor. A "grant" was issued by state through its agent, the Governor of the state. A military warrant (in Virginia/Kentucky) was a document issued by the state to an individual who qualified for land on the basis of prior military service. The warrant was addressed to the surveyor of military lands and directed him to survey a certain amount of land in the military lands area for that person. A treasury warrant applied to all other types of land acquisition. Warrants could be purchased from the government (40 pounds for 100 acres), they could be issued on the basis of having built a cabin and raised a crop of corn, they could even be obtained on credit. The rules also changed quite often. The people who obtained huge grants or patents generally did so by buying up many smaller entries, surveys or warrants, then consolidating them and having the grant issued for the large tract. Land rights could be bought and sold at any point of the patenting process. Person "A" could sell his warrant to "B" - "B" could make the entry and sell it to "C" - "C" could have the survey done and sell it to "D" who returned the survey and entry to the land office and eventually obtained the grant. "Patenting land in someone elses name" - not knowing the context where this was stated, I can't be sure what it means. An example may be where someone in Virginia with a land warrant who could not actually come to Kentucky, may have paid someone else (in money or with land) to take care of the patenting process for him, since he was unable to do it himself. Hope this mess helps. Volumes could be written on land acquisition in Kentucky. Rick Johnston PS - the military warrants used to obtain land in Central Kentucky were NOT Revolutionary war warrants, they were warrants issued by the authority of the King for service during the French and Indian War. I think the lands reserved for Virginia Revolutionary veterans were south of the Green River (in Kentucky) and in Ohio.

Could someone clarify for me what the word 'patent' means when it says someone patented land? What is the difference between treasury warrants and military warrants? Several of my ancestors had thousands of acres. How could those early pioneers qualify for up to 50,000 acres? He certainly could not live on all of those tracts. Did he have tenants on them? Could he just go around building cabins and planting corn without being a full time resident of the farm? When it says he patented land in someone else's name, what does that mean? I have discussed this with other researchers and they are confused too. Can anyone help us? Kay Withers

I read with great interest the E.B.L. writings in the recent message from Philip Naff. As they took place in the 1860-61 era I am most interested with the mentioning of George Wheeler being one of the leading families in the Cynthiana/Harrison County area. I have been searching for information for my g/g/grandfather--name unknown. My g/grandfather was Thomas V. Wheeler. He was born in Virginia (I believe in an area that became West Virginia in June of 1863) in 1833 [1836] (both dates having been found). He married a David Della Clois, yes David is correct who was born in KY. She in later years was known as "D.D.". Their first child was born in KY in 1864. Their second child was born in 1867; her death notice in the paper stated Bourbon County as her county of birth. Thomas and D.D. were listed in the 1870 census in Cynthiana. I next found that they sold there property, located on Miller Street in Cynthiana with the indenture of sale listed in the deed book 38, page 152, to a Garrett Gallispie of Vermillion County, Illinois. At the time of the sale, August of 1875, they had moved to Vermillion County, Indiana. They continued their residence in Indiana living also in Fountain and Sullivan Counties. My grandfather, George Harrison Wheeler, was born on Nov. 10, 1881 in Sullivan County. My father, William H. Wheeler (Sr.) related to me that he believed that someone in our family participated in the Civil War and fought for the South. I visited Cynthiana in 1998 and was able to obtain the indenture information. Bill Wheeler

Hi, Found a letter to the editor regarding the E.B.L. articles, and it gives a few more details and follwup about those mentioned previously. The surnames are fewer this time: CUMMINS, WHIATKER, & SMITH. Does anybody have any ideas who E.B.L. might be? The Cynthiana Democrat, Thursday, Aug. 7, 1919, Page 1, Cols. 4-6: ENJOYS ---------- Reading The Democrat and Espe- cially E.B.L.’s Fine Contributions. ---------- Tuolumne, Cal., July 31, 1919. Editor Democrat, As per notice received find enclosed the necessary lucre to pay for The Democrat another year. Can not get along without it. Intended to renew before this but the paper kept coming and I “done fergot all about it.” I certainly enjoy every number of The Democrat, but especially do I enjoy the reminiscences of E.B.L. Many, many years ago, when so many youngsters all over the county were struck with an itch for writing and were proud when our stuff appeared in the columns of The Democrat, the News or the Berryville Free Press, E.B.L., or Eddie, as he was lovingly termed by all, easily stood in a class by himself, so superior was his work to our clumsy efforts. The keen wit, geniality and pleasant humor which pervaded his articles pleased all. Had he not been so unfortunate in early life as to completely lose the sense of hearing he could have gone high and advanced in journalism. Many of those E.B.L. mentions I knew; some were friends and others I knew by reputation. John Cummins, the Lieutenant he speaks of in the Southern military company, was our near neighbor. He enlisted with the South and a week later was captured and take to Camp Chase, a military prison in Ohio, where a few months later he died. The body was brought home and buried while the whole country-side mourned his loss, for everyone loved that boy of twenty. J.J. Whitaker (Jake), I knew well. At that time he was far above average height, slender and straight as a Florida pine, and, with his yellow hair and long fiery red whiskers and keen blue eyes, required but little exercise of imagination by the beholder to believe that he was looking upon a sixth century Viking suddenly restored to life. The Whitaker family was an extensive one. Besides Josiah, the circuit rider, were Peter, a local preacher; John Wesley, Simeon and Isaac. The latter three I remember well. I think the readers of The Democrat would be pleased if E.B.L. would reminiscence on the Whitaker family for one hundred years of more back. The family history would be largely the history of the county from Oddville to the Pendleton line and I know of no one who could handle the subject better than E.B.L. J.W. SMITH

Hi, again, First, let me correct a mistake regarding the citation of the last article I posted. It should have a date of June 12, instead of June 2. Here is the text of the article which appeared the following week, which starts off being a little "disjointed" but continues on to give some details of Civil War life around Oddville and Claysville. If you don't get anything else out of it, you will at least learn to use the words "agone," "reminiscental," and "engloomed" in the proper context! The surnames are: HODSON, DOUGLAS, CLOUGH, SMALLEY, WHITEKER, KENNARD, AMMERMAN, GULICK, TAYLOR, MULLEN, PARKER, GARNETT, HAYS, BRANNOCK, TAYLOR, GARNETT, KING, REES, SIPPLE, BATSON, KENDALL, DAVID, WHITE, WHEELER, DESHA, WARD, CURRAN, JACKSON, KINNEY, DURBIN, CUMMINS, MCCLAIN, OGLE, WHITE, CUNNINGHAM, GILES, HENDERSON, YOUNG, MULLIN, & ROGERS. NOTE: Two columns of this three column article were “cut-off” at the top of the page in the microfilmed edition of this issue. At least two lines, of perhaps five words each, are missing from the top of the 2nd and 3rd colums, but it doesn’t appear to be any more than that. A “***” in brackets has been placed in the text of this article to denote those missing lines. The Cynthiana Democrat, Thursday, June 19, 1919, Page 3, Cols. 1-3: REMINISCENCES ---------- E.B.L. Writes Entertainingly of Early Civil War Times ---------- In years agone a fellow “taking his pen in hand”--another old-time phrase--to write such as this would have indulged in poetic quotation galore and even Shakespeare might have been drawn on. But this is an age of fast doing things, fast thought, writing, reading and “get there Eli” as quick as possible. Hence rhythm and flowers are omitted in these scraps reminiscental. Inadvertently the names of Jimmie Douglas, Jimmie Hodson, Hiram Clough and sister, now Mrs. Smalley, Billie Monroe Whiteker and perhaps others were omitted from the names of pupils in the ‘60-’61 term of Oddville school. No better school, nor more apt scholars in leering then existed in old Harrison. Wm. G. Kennard was the Mt. Zion teacher, two miles distant. Mrs. Isabelle Gulick, afterwards Mrs. Philip Ammerman, who is now a resident of Cynthiana, also taught that school for a term or so. Both were fine teachers. The first time I can recall seeing our mutual friend, J.J. Whiteker was early one Sunday morning as he passed by, riding his favorite young mare, en route to Neville’s Run on a personal mission in which he seemed to be putting much earnest and ardent effort. Our French cousins would term it an “affair d’amour.” That he succeeded was soon attested by his union with one of the finest girls in the county--Miss Arbell Taylor, daughter of Mr. and Mrs. William Taylor. Now in the declining years of long and useful lives, they serenely and confidently await the call of the Captain for the Crossing of the Bar. The first funeral I attended was that of Brazzilla Mullen, an aged citizen, the next the father of Joe A. Whiteker, a resident now of Belmont. Both were good men. The leading families were: H. Mc. Parker, Asa, F., Archibald, Monroe D., Robt. T. and Joseph A. Whiteker, Edward Garnett, John R. and Paul Douglas, Thos. G. Hays, William Brannock, Duncan Taylor, William Garnett, Col. Paul King, Richard Rees, J.M. Sipple, Rev. J.C. Crow, Dr. J.D. Batson, James T. Kendall, J. Mat David, and William White, Henry, Wm. F. and George Wheeler, etc. Many of their children or descendants are still among us and rank as among our best people. In the early spring of 1861, Gen. Lucius Desha and Hon. Harry Ward, opposing candidates for the legislature, spoke in the Temperance Hall, Oddville. Portentous clouds threatening Civil War engloomed the country. Of opposite types, both speakers were unusually serious and spoke under evident strain. Both were guarded and free from the extreme utterance that characterized the dis[***] tried men’s soles as never before in the nation’s history. Ward, strongly pro-”Union,” was lacking in the scintillations of wit, humor and anecdote that always made him an interesting and popular speaker. Desha was practical and profound. He, naturally, inclined to the conservative southern view, and was no extremist. Desha won in the ensuing election. State Guard, Home Guard and Independent military companies sprang up all over the State. Harrison county soon had her quota--and more. Down at Claysville, Dr. W.H. Curran as Capt.; Alonzo Jackson, Winder Kinney and J.J. Curran as Lieutenants, drilled a good sized company of “Unionists.’[‘] Near by a company was formed and captained by Col. Pole Durbin. John Cummins and R.A. McClain were Lieutenants. Henry C. Ogle, still living, now of Paris, was Orderly Sergeant. Rated as pro-Southern, it really was conservative and neutral. So close were the drilling grounds of the two companies it was said the stentorian commands of one of the lieutenants and the “hep, hep” of the Claysville Co. could be heard by Durbin’s company. Fears were entertained that there would be trouble between them but it never came. Arrangements were made for a meeting of Capt. Durbin’s Co.[,] Capt. William White’s Co., which met for drill at Stony Point on Beaver, and the Cynthiana Guards for an all-day meeting on Col. Paul King’s blue grass woodland pasture. A misunderstanding of some kind as to date caused the non-presence of any but the Durbin company and a portion of White’s. Likewise, the “eats” and ice water were “non-est.” Soon, however, the old Col. hurried his ox team up with a barrel of spring water for the thirsty crowd and alter on something stronger was found, and Wash Cunningham and Harve Giles, under the influence, renewed their feud as to which was the best man by having their customary fight when they met. The soldier boys behaved nicely, drilled and marched in formation, interestingly and reflected credit on their companies. War’s “rude alarms” and mobilization of combating forces came all to soon. Capt. Joe Desha’s company soon embarked for a train journey southward. I saw them gather in the court house where Rev. Howard Henderson addressed them. The roll was called, they soon formed in line on the street in front and marched away to entrain. Oddville vicinity sent Thomas and Tapley Taylor (the latter never returned), Robt. J. Brannock, Wm. H. Young, John C. Mullin, D.N. Rees and John Rees. The latter died in the service. They made good soldiers and all except Mullen, disabled from a wounded hip, re-enlisted joining John Morgan’s famous command. Other companies soon followed and more went out. Curran’s Claysville Co. almost to [***] Capt. Cornelius McLeod soon succeeded Curran, who resigned to become surgeon, and served as Co. I, 20th K. Inft. until mustered out. George Mullen, of this city, is one of the few surviving members. His brother, deceased recently, was also a member. Just before the first Morgan fight and capture of Cynthiana, a squad of infantry, commanded by Capt. Rogers, a Nicholas county man, with an army wagon, marched out to and into Oddville one Sunday, armed and heeled for combat, on a gun taking expedition. Evidently they had posted as to whose guns to take. Sufficient that not even the minister’s house escaped and my small one-barreled shot gun, with hardly enough force to bring down a squirrel, was seized, captured and carried off as a trophy of war. It, with a big pile of other guns, thus taken, was destroyed on Court house square on the morning following the fight. W.H. Young, now living in this city, was one of the Morgan men assisting in the work. The foolish and unnecessary taking of that little gun almost turned me “rebel,” and when I learned Rogers, so pompous and harsh, received a shot in the heel I regretted it wasn’t in closer proximity to his saddle. Soon followed similar raids--horses and wagons mostly. H. Mc. Whiteker had two good four-horse teams “pressed” into Government service at one time. It was simply forcible seizure and unjustifiable. To this day the Government has failed to reimburse the loss. E.B.L.

Hi all, For those with an interest in Oddville and Claysville, here is another item by the same author that was published in "The Cynthiana Democrat:" FOR THOSE WHO CAN READ ONLY CAPITAL LETTERS ;-), HERE ARE THE SURNAMES THAT GET MENTIONED IN THE ARTICLE: KIMBROUGH, RANKIN, WHITEKER, BATSON, MORGAN, OWSLEY, HOFFMAN, HODSON, CROW, HAYS, POLLARD, MATTOX, SMITH, TAYLOR, MCCLAIN, DURBIN, DESHA, PRESTON, CASTLEMAN, MORGAN, LEBUS, HAYS, GARNETT, BRANNOCK, GARNETT, RIGGIN, TYLER, MYERS, BROUGH, WYLES, LEE, JONES. It is politically-incorrect in spots, but wasn't everybody back then! I haven't received my Perrin book yet, but I would guess this is a better profile than any in that book of the neighborhood! Enjoy! The Cynthiana Democrat, Thursday, June 2, 1919, Page 12, Cols. 3-6: DELIGHTFUL ---------- Reminiscences of Oddville in 1860 and later. ---------- My first view of Cynthiana was by “early candle light” one evening in the fall of ‘60. With his lares and penates in carriage and wagon, our preacher-father started from Sharpsburg for his new field of labor, the Falmouth circuit, early that morning. Oddville was the objective point. Failing to make it by daylight, night coming on found us out on the Millersburg pike near the Mack Kimbrough home. A darky, questioned as to a stopping place, replied: “Yes, sah, Marse Mack Kimbro, he done keep a tabern for trabalers.” The hog-driving season was on and Kimbrough’s hospitality was already overtaxed. Immense droves of hogs were gathered up in Bath, Nicholas and other counties every fall and driven to Cynthiana for shipment via R.R. to Cincinnati. Kimbrough’s was the last stopping place for entertainment and the final feed and resting up of the droves before embarking on the last leg of the trip to market. Fine, fat swine, they were[,] too, big fellows, many of them mast-fattened and the mountains and corn finished in the Blue Grass. Coming on to town we stopped at the famous hostelry, kept by T.R. Rankin and wife, two of the biggest hearted and most popular hosts that ever conducted a hotel in Cynthiana. Cynthiana, then had 700 or 800 inhabitants, but that’s another story. Resuming the journey, next morning found us at Oddville. H. McWhiteker, kind hearted and genial “Uncle Mack,” was the first man met. David W. Batson, the first boy. In addition to his large farm, Whiteker was running a large saw mill in the village. Formerly he had engaged in merchandise on quite a large scale. The one store then running was kept by J.M. Hodson and wife--in after years, “Aunt Betsy.” E.J. Morgan and James Owsley, each had a blacksmith shop, with all the work they could attend to. Blacksmithing then paid. Tom J.Whiteker was the wagon and coffin maker for the northern and eastern part of the county. He was a superior workman at the trade and had a fine business. Tapley A. Taylor, Sr., was his assistant. Leonard Hoffman, who died in Cynthiana not long since, coming from Cincinnati, erected a warehouse and put in a stock of coffins and caskets. The business proving slow, he engaged in buying and driving sheep to the city market. Jimmie P. Hodson, astride of the good, roan horse and a pillow, assisted in the driving on one or two trips. Cold cream hadn’t yet been introduced, but mutton tallow made a good and soothing substitute. Dr. John D. Batson was the village practitioner, and had a large practice and a fine record. Then and until the infirmities of advancing age overtook him, Dr. Batson was a leader in the community. The same may be said of his estimable wife, one of the best women and devoted christians Harrison county has ever known. her parents, Rev. Jas. C. and Nancy Whiteker Crow, tow of the older people of the community, were devout christians and greatly respected. Thomas G. Hays, farmer and shoemaker, had all the work he could attend in the latter line. His make of boots and shoes stood the test of wear and popular demand. Asa F. Whiteker was the postmaster then and at intervals for years thereafter. His good wife, “Aunt Lizzie,” ably assisted him. Mail came in twice a week--Havilandsville, Claysville and Oddville to Cynthiana and return comprised the route. Breckinridge, the carrier, was a ‘wild and woolly’ chap in some respects. He was afterwards succeeded by the Pollards--John and Henry, Will Light, and the Mattox boys--George, Ed and Oscar, and numerous others. James F. Smith ran a cooper shop, making barrels for the Megibben, Wash Taylor and other distilleries, according to demand. Monroe D. Whiteker operated a straight copper distillery of several barrels per day capacity, and also had a well stocked store, a mile or so from Oddville. Half way between Oddville and Claysville “Dock” McClain operated a water-power saw mill and further down was located the McClain distillery, also a straight copper producer of limited capacity. Then came the Durbin Mills, Col. N.M. Durbin, proprietor, where an extensive business was done. With water power mainly, custom grinding of wheat and corn into flour and meal. Col. “Pole” Durbin, as he was generally called, was one of the best known men in the county. He was a large land owner, owned slaves and was, perhaps, the wealthiest citizen of northern Harrison. Having had militia experience in his younger days, like Gen. Lucius Desha, his erect, military figure, especially as he sat on his horse, would have attracted attention in any crowd. In that respect he and Desha ranked with Gen. William Preston, Gen. Jno. B. Castleman and Gen. John Hunt Morgan. More superb figures I never saw on horseback. Daniel Durbin’s erect figure and dignified movement is a natural inheritance from his father, Col. N.M. Out on what is now the Avena pike the Sons of Temperance possessed a small hall, near Mt. Pleasant church in which a small division or lodge of that order met weekly. In Oddville they owned a larger hall and had a thriving division with a large membership and its weekly gatherings were quite an interesting event. The school was taught by Lewis Lebus, who had been the teacher for several years. As a disciplinarian, he was strict and wielded his good stout hickory switch pretty frequently. But his pupils learned rapidly, especially in Mathematics and English Grammar. The school room was inadequate and out of date--no desks nor comfortable seats. Around two sides of the wall a plan had been fixed, slanting downward sufficiently for book and slate rests and writing purposes, with a couple of slabs, smoothside up, resting on long wooden pegs for seats for the large pupils, who sat facing the wall with backs to the teacher. Crinoline was then in vogue and it required practice for the girls to make the seating effort in “due form.” Girls, and women[,] too, were then modest and might careful as to exposure of even a very limited view of ankle or a little more. Ever and anon, the teacher would make his round, overlooking the work in progress on slate or copy book, and woe unto the delinquent whose ciphering or writing was incorrect and below the required standard. Finding, trading and speculating profitable, Mr. Lebus soon gave up the vocation of teaching and was succeeded by his brother, Joe F. Lebus, also a fine teacher, but of different methods and less strict discipline. But few of those who attended school then now survive--John W. Mattox, Lucius and Joseph Hays, William Henry Garnett, Dr. J.R. Batson, a recent beginner, and Mrs. Fannie Whiteker Brannock, are the only ones I can now recall. David W. Batson, deceased, was also one of the younger pupils. He made rapid advancement and in a few years gained a reputation as the youngest and one of the best teachers in the county. He and Garnett, after teaching a while, entered Kentucky Wesleyan College, graduated and became members of the faculty. Batson also served as President for some years. Prof. Batson after resigning the presidency had charge of the Central Methodist as editor and manager for a number of years. In that capacity he was also a success. Prof. Garnett, except for one year’s intermission, served the Wesleyan as faculty member, secretary and Dean, contin[u]ously until a year or so ago, he ill health caused his withdrawal temporarily. He went to California to recuperate, but late reports are that he is bedfast and beyond recovery. Both he and Batson were expert mathematicians and superior educators. Some of the teachers who followed were Miss Annie Poynter, Miss Lou Riggin, Capt. A.F. Tyler, W.H. Myers, M.J. Brough, Peter Wyles, Miss Bessie Brough and Miss Nannie Lee, now Mrs. F.N. Jones. Lucius and Will F. Hays, J.J. Whiteker and J.W. Mattox, former Lebus pupils, also were successful teachers. In another article, I’ll mention some things, incidents and persons perhaps of sufficient interest to justify the granting of space and publication. E.B.L.

Hi, If you ever wondered about that ever-elusive obituary of Great-Aunt or Uncle, or other beloved & esteemed ancestor, this article might explain why we can't find them today!: The Cynthiana Democrat, Thursday, Feb. 27, 1919, Page 6, Col. 5: OBITUARIES MUST BE PAID FOR It seems to be necessary to state again that The Democrat, as well as all other well regulated newspapers, charge for publishing obituaries. Persons continue to send them in with request for publication and seem offended when they do not appear. It should be remembered that the charge is five cents a line, which is one cent a word. Therefore, please count the words and send check or cash with the request to publish, otherwise we shall be obliged to omit the obituaries. The Democrat prints notices of deaths as prom[p]tly as possible after the information reaches us and usually full details are given. We of course make no charge for this because it is a matter of news. Sympathy with bereaved ones is always felt by publishers, but it is not possible to publish free obituaries and do justice to readers who are not directly interested.

My Perrin book just arrived. My husband's double ggg-grandfather, Louis WOLF, Sr is in there. I also found possibilities for 2 pairs of gg-grandparents. WOW! What a day! Plus I just ordered a new 'puter. I'm floating. Many thanks to Bob. Hip Hip Hooray. Hip Hip Hooray Hip Hip Hooray Also, Thanks to Elaine and Jay for helping with the mailing. Pat

This week I've received at least 6 messages which should have gone to a different person. I've forwarded each piece of mail, BUT - if the people who see something is forwarded would really read the message they could tell who to send the message/reply to. Please, don't just hit a "reply to" without looking and thinking about WHO you are replying to. You can see who your message is going to, and if it's addressed to the person who forwarded the message RATHER than to the originator of the message it will either: not get to the originator, or will be delayed - waiting for the person who receives the message to forward it on (from now on I may, or may not, do this). I suspect I forward a lot more than some list owners do (since these lists are relatively small), but you are still taking a chance that: I won't do it, won't see it, or am so busy it will be delayed for a long time. Someone who forwarded my forward, as if I were the originator of the WWI draft record message, caused this response to be sent to me - I don't need any comments or reactions to it - just read it and decide for yourself. Jo "FYI, there are some MAJOR errors in her words of wisdom. I've used the WWI draft records up here on occasion, and know several researchers who use them frequently. I'm not certain where she got her information, but the FHL microfilm consists of over 4,000 rolls of film. They are organized by state, county, then registration district in the case of cities. They were NOT just taken out of boxes willy nilly and filmed. If I can take film rolls out of the drawer for given counties and find only those counties on the film, and in alphabetical order, her claims just don't make sense. Granted, they are not always totally in alphabetical order, sometimes grouped by letter of first name although that's not usually the case. I am at a loss as to what microfilm she's looked at, but it's certainly not what's here at the FHL. The records were filmed in the late 1980's, and they would never in the world spend the time and money on a project that large without the records being organized in advance. So for what it's worth ."

Hi all, Is anybody familiar with the SHADD family of Harrison County, Kentucky? Earl & Clara SHADD, in particular, or how they might fit into a larger SHADD genealogy? Thanks. Philip Naff.

Kay Withers -----Original Message----- From: kaywithers <kwithers@kih.net> To: KYGRANT-L@ROOTSWEB.COM <KYGRANT-L@ROOTSWEB.COM> Date: Thursday, August 19, 1999 10:12 PM Subject: ROLL CALL >Seeking information about the following lines. >Descendants of SADIE ANNESS > > > > >Generation No. 1 > > >1. SADIE2 ANNESS (ALEX1) was born 1858 in SCOTT, and died 1911 in GRANT CO.. >She married JOSEPH THOMAS COOK May 16, 1879 in GRANT CO., son of JOSEPH COOK >and RUTH ROMANS. He was born 1843 in GRANT CO., and died 1936 in GRANT CO.. > >Notes for JOSEPH THOMAS COOK: > >THIS "JOSEPH" OR "THOMAS" COOK WAS MARRIED THREE TIMES. HE HAD THREE SETS OF >CHILDREN. BY HIS FIRST WIFE HE HAD CHARLIE, JOSEPH AND????. BY OUR ANCESTOR, >HIS SECOND WIFE SADIE ANNESS, HE HAD MARY EVALINE , HATTIE, AND GEORGE. BY >HIS THIRD WIFE HE HAD TALTHA, THOMSIE, AND MARGARET. > > >Children of SADIE ANNESS and JOSEPH COOK are: > >i. HATTIE3 COOK, m. JOHN RACE. > >ii. GEORGE COOK, m. OTERIA CRAWFORD. > >iii. MARY EVALINE COOK, b. July 17, 1882, GRANT CO. KENTUCKY; d. September >23, 1937, HARRISON C0. KENTUCKY; m. WILLIAM LEWIS HATCHER, January 27, 1898, >GRANT CO. KENTUCKY; b. September 14, 1874, GRANT CO. KENTUCKY; d. September >17, 1939, CYNTHIANA, KENTUCKY. > >Notes for MARY EVALINE COOK: > >OBITUARY > >Mrs. Mary E. Hatcher died yesterday morning, shortly after midnight at her >home on Walnut Street after an illness of five weeks. > >She was born in Grant County on July 17, 1882 and was a daughter of the late >Thomas and Sadie Cook. She was married to William Lewis Hatcher who survives >with the following children: Orla Hatcher, Dayton, Ky., Mrs. Mason >Richardson, Washington, D.C., George, Mrs. Hugh Moses, Orville, Mrs. Cecil >Jett, William, Howard, Virgil, Millard and Robbie Hatcher, all of Cynthiana, >One brother and one sister also survive, George Cook of Harrison County, and >Mrs. John Race of Grant County. The following half-brothers and sisters also >survive: Charles Cook, Grant County; Johnny Cook, Cincinnati; Mrs. Charles >Estes, Madisonville, Ohio, Mrs. Raymond Perkins and Mrs Fred Driscol, >Norwood, Ohio, and Taltha Cook of Lexington, Ky. > >Mrs Hatcher was a member of the Church of God in this city. Funeral services >conducted by Rev. S. F. Williams will be held at the Smith-Rees Funeral Home >Saturday afternoon, September 25, at 2:30 o'clock. Burial in Battle Grove >Cemetery. > >Notes for WILLIAM LEWIS HATCHER: > >OBITUTARY > >William Lewis Hatcher, 65, was found dead in his bed Sunday morning at his >home on Mill Street, in this city, death being attributed to a heart attack. > >Born September 14, 1874, he was the son of the late Jack and Elizabeth >Hatcher. He married Mary E. Cook, who preceded him in death on September 23, >1937. Surviving children include George, Orville, William,Jr. , Howard, >Virgil, Millard, and Robert Hatcher, Mrs. Cecil Jett and Mrs. Hugh Moses, >all of this city; Orla Hatcher, Owenton, Ky.; Mrs. Mason Richardson, >Washington, D.C. Surviving brothers and sisters are Joe Hatcher, Georgetown, >Ky., Ferd Hatcher, Detroit, Michigan, and Mrs. Fannie Simpson, Illinois. > >Deceased was a member of the Christian Church. Funeral services were held at >the Smith-Rees Home Tuesday afternoon, at 2: 30 o'clock with Rev. S.F. >Williams in charge. Burial was in Battle Grove Cemetery. Pallbearers were >Holton Richey, Melvin Jenkins, Ralph Hayes, Robert Whalen, Victor Varner and >Orville Fowler.. > >Kay Withers >

Hi all, I just finished copying all the articles I could find in "The Cynthiana Democrat" regarding Harrison County soldiers from the period of June, 1917 through July, 1919. It will be a little bit before I can get them all typed up, but would be willing to share whatever information can be found with anybody who knows of or suspects they have a family member who was from Harrison County. Just e-mail me with the names and information about your soldier/suspect, and I will certainly keep them in mind as I type up the articles. Thanks. Philip Naff.

Hi, Does anybody know how the two Aaron ASHBROOKs of the 1850 and earlier U.S. Census enumerations of Harrison County are related? Am looking for the parents of Mary (aka Polly) ASHBROOK (b. ca. 1824/25 in Kentucky - d. Seot., 1852). She was married to Andrew J. HICKS in 1838. I have been given a list of the four daughters of the Aaron ASHBROOK who was married to Sallie VEA(T)CH, but she is not among them. I am assuming that she is the daughter of the other Aaron ASHBROOK, who appears to have married twice, by my reckoning, first to a Miss MORRISON, then to a Miss SCOTT. Anybody familiar with the situation among the ASHBROOKs in Harrison County? Am just beginning to work on the family and would be willing to share whatever I can come up with regarding the family. Thanks. Philip Naff.

Need lead on locating maiden name of Milcha Addison, wife of William, seen in 1820 Harrison County Census. Known to have several children, including William H. and John F., later located in Carroll County. MO. Any information welcome.

----- Original Message ----- From: Linda Haas Davenport <lhaasdav@mindspring.com> To: <CCHelper-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, August 19, 1999 6:10 AM Subject: [CCHelper-L] WWI Draft Cards - clarification > I received about a dozen e-mails this morning all asking the same question > so I know that I was not clear in my post yesterday. If you forwarded my > message about the WWI draft cards being at the GA NARA branch will you > please also forward this message? > > The original draft card applications (registrations) for every state (the > entire US) are at East Pointe. According to the Archive Staff there are no > plans to split these cards and move any of them to any other NARA location > since East Pointe has been charged with the "custody" of these records. > > It is only the original cards that are in state / county / alpha order. > > Someone posted a message to one of the lists that NARA was planning on > re-filming the cards since they are now in state / county / alpha order. If > such a thing is underway it is unknown to the East Pointe archive staff and > they should know if such a thing was in the works. > > If you request a copy of your ancestor's draft card from any NARA branch > other than this one they will be searching the LDS microfilm and you will > have to know the state and draft board for them to make a copy. It is only > at the East Pointe location that you can request a copy by state and then > county and the copy will be made from the ORIGINAL card. > > If I'm still unclear please let me know. > > Linda > Home Page: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~haas/ > Marion Co AR: http://www.rootsweb.com/~armarion/ > Washington Co NC, Haas & Hass e-mail list manager > >

Would someone who has a cemetery book list the addresses for Pythian Grove and some of the other large cemeteries in the county? I got this question this morning and rather than forward it to the list, thought it might help more people if you'd mail it to the entire list. Thanks, Jo

For several years I have been searching 2 WOLF(E) lines in northcentral KY. Both lines had the same common first names, occupations, and places of residence. I assumed that there was a connection, but no one (not even the family experts who lived into their 90s knew. Sandra Burbridge of the KYGRANT list sent me some info on a Lewis WOLFE in one of her collateral lines. She warned me that there was an error but she didn't know where but it was enough to get me started thinking in a different way. We have a Lewis WOLFE on the paternal side m/ Melinda LEMONS and a Lewis WOLFE on the maternal side whose second wife was Lucinda ASBURY. I had never considered that his unknown first wife might be Melinda. That was the key. I found an interview in the Barton Papers by James WOLFE (eldest child of Lewis and Lucinda) who mentioned both of his father's wives and children from each marriage so I now know that the 2 Lewis WOLFE in my database are instead one person with 2 wives. Here is my info with my wish list on this line. Descendants of John Lewis Wolf Generation No. 1 1. JOHN LEWIS3 WOLF (JOHN2, GEORGE LEWIS1) was born 1815 or 1812 in KY, and died Sep 1900 in Williamstown, Grant, KY, USA. He married (1) MELINDA LEMONS Jul 10, 1838 in Harrison, KY1,2. She was born 1822, and died Aft. 1880. He married (2) LUCINDA ASBURY2 1864. She was born Mar 1848 in KY, USA, and died Aft. 1900. Lewis and Lucinda were on the 1880 and 1900 Grant Co. census?????????Pat has abstract of his Obit from Dry Ridge, KY. I now have the newspaper article describing his death at age 87. ***WOULD like his will.**** I have the will of his father, John WOLF, and his grandfather, George Lewis WOLFE. I have the marriage lines for his parents (John WOLF and Rebecca ROBINSON) He is buried in a WOLFE cemtery near Cordova at the Grant-Pendleton County line. The is where the will of John WOLF shows the family property. I haven't been there. It was dusk, cold, and rainy plus it was a mile walk through farmland to get to it. Notes for MELINDA LEMONS: The 1860 Grant Co., KY census has Lewis WOLFE married to Melinda. I have their marriage lines. Children of JOHN WOLF and MELINDA LEMONS are: 2. i. MARY E.4 WOLF, b. 1840, KY. ii. MARGARET J. WOLF, b. 1846, Harrison, KY; m. W. H. SHILD, Feb 13, 1862, Grant, KY. iii. REBECCA WOLF, b. 1848, KY; m. LOUIS W. MARTIN. iv. ANGELINE WOLF, b. 1850, KY; m. JOHN T. B. KILGORE. v. NANCY WOLF, b. 1852, KY; m. R. W. CARR, Oct 28, 1870. vi. ELIZA F. WOLF, b. 1854; m. ALEXANDER HALL, Nov 15, 1880, Harrison, KY. vii. JOSEPH WOLF, b. 1856; m. ANNE A. ROSS. viii. NEWTON J. WOLF, b. 1858, KY. "J" stands for Jasper. He was called Jack. He was a Blacksmith in Powersville for 50 years. ix. 1812 LEWIS #09 CHILD WOLFE. x. 1812 LEWIS #10 CHILD WOLFE. xi. 1812 LEWIS #11 CHILD WOLFE. Children of JOHN WOLF and LUCINDA ASBURY are: 3. xii. JAMES HENRY4 WOLFE, b. Apr 06, 1865, , Campbell, KY, USA; d. Feb 17, 1947, Falmouth, Pendleton, Ky, USA. M. Amanda Newton KING. I have their marriage lines and the death certificates of each. I have a picture of Amanda standing in front of her house that was ruined in a tornado through Falmouth. She was in the house at the time. ***OUR LINE*** xiii. BEN WOLFE, b. Abt. 1866. I have a picture of him in his Spanish-American War uniform. xiv. GEORGE W WOLFE, b. Abt. 1866. 4. xv. WILLIS OR WILL WOLFE, b. Mar 22, 1867, KY, USA; d. Mar 01, 1911, Georgetown, Scott, KY, USA. He married Eva KING, the sister of Amanda KING. I have their marriage lines and his death certificate. xvi. PETE WOLFE, b. Dec 1877, KY, USA. xvii. MATILDA WOLFE, b. Feb 1881. xviii. HESTER WOLFE, b. Apr 1884, KY, USA. xix. TOM WOLFE, b. Jan 1886, KY, USA. xx. WOLFE MINNIE, b. Mar 1888, KY, USA. xxi. LUCY WOLFE, b. Jan 1890, KY, USA. Generation No. 2 2. MARY E.4 WOLF (JOHN LEWIS3, JOHN2, GEORGE LEWIS1) was born 1840 in KY. She married WILLIAM B. DUNCAN Abt. 1857. Children of MARY WOLF and WILLIAM DUNCAN are: i. LUCY5 DUNCAN, b. Abt. 1859. ii. LOUIS DUNCAN, b. Abt. 1860. iii. ADELINE DUNCAN, b. Abt. 1862. iv. ALVIN DUNCAN, b. Abt. 1862. v. JAMES DUNCAN, b. Abt. 1867. vi. ROBERT R. DUNCAN, b. Abt. 1876. 3. JAMES HENRY4 WOLFE (JOHN LEWIS3 WOLF, JOHN2, GEORGE LEWIS1) was born Apr 06, 1865 in , Campbell, KY, USA, and died Feb 17, 1947 in Falmouth, Pendleton, Ky, USA3. He married AMANDA NEWTON KING Oct 01, 1895 in Falmouth,Pendleton, Ky, USA4, daughter of RICHARD KING and SUSAN SLADE. She was born Mar 13, 1880 in Ky, USA, and died Mar 06, 1980 in Falmouth, Pendleton, Ky, USA5. Notes for AMANDA NEWTON KING: * Pat WOLFE has Certified Copy of the Death Certifcate of Amanda Newton KING WOLFE Marriage Notes for JAMES WOLFE and AMANDA KING: * Pat WOLFE has a copy of the Marriage License and the Certificate of Marriage for James WOLF (It was spelled this way on these papers but he spelled it with an "E") and Amanda Newton KING both dated October 1, 1895. Attested by the clerk, C.M. Cowles. In the presence of Richard KING (His mark) and C.M. Cowles. Signed Geo. W Mills Children of JAMES WOLFE and AMANDA KING are: 5. i. KATHRYN MARIE5 WOLFE, b. Aug 01, 1898, Durbintown, Harrison, KY, USA; d. Jun 20, 1995, Towson, Baltimore, MD, USA. ***Our line*** ii. CHARLES EUGENE WOLFE, b. Aug 09, 1900, Durbingtown, Pendleton, KY, USA; d. Jul 08, 1997, Richmond, Wayne, IN, USA6; m. MILDRED JACOBS, IN; b. Apr 07, 1903, Marion, Grant, IN, USA; d. Abt. 1970, Richmond, Wayne, IN, USA. iii. STELLA MAE WOLFE, b. Jul 29, 1902, KY, USA; d. Mar 15, 1984, Richmond, Wayne, IN, USA; m. HARRY TURNER. iv. Living daughter iv. JAMES EDWIN WOLFE, b. Mar 22, 1908, KY, USA; d. May 01, 1984, Lexington, Fayette, KY, USA. v. EVELYN ROSS WOLFE, b. May 11, 1911, Kelat, Harrison, KY, USA; d. Apr 14, 1996, Richmond, IN, USA; m. RALPH GREEN; b. Richmond, Wayne, IN, USA. vi. GENEVA RUTH WOLFE, b. Mar 17, 1921, KY, USA; d. Jun 1984, Mayfield, Fulton?, KY, USA. 4. WILLIS OR WILL4 WOLFE (JOHN LEWIS3 WOLF, JOHN2, GEORGE LEWIS1) was born Mar 22, 1867 in KY, USA, and died Mar 01, 1911 in Georgetown, Scott, KY, USA. He married EVA KING, daughter of RICHARD KING and SUSAN SLADE. Notes for WILLIS OR WILL WOLFE: * pw has death certificate death by pulmomary pneumonia Mother listed as Lucinda ASBURY Child of WILLIS WOLFE and EVA KING is: i. ISABELLA5 WOLFE. Generation No. 3 5. KATHRYN MARIE5 WOLFE (JAMES HENRY4, JOHN LEWIS3 WOLF, JOHN2, GEORGE LEWIS1) was born Aug 01, 1898 in Durbintown, Harrison, KY, USA, and died Jun 20, 1995 in Towson,Batlimore, MD, USA. She married VIRGIL LEE WOLFE Sep 21, 1916 in Cynthiana, Harrison, KY, USA, son of BENJAMIN WOLF and EASTER BAKER. He was born Jul 26, 1897 in ,Clark, KY, USA, and died Mar 18, 1964 in Falmouth, Pendleton, KY, USA. Marriage Notes for KATHRYN WOLFE and VIRGIL WOLFE: Marie and Virgil were married at the Harrison County, KY Courthouse. Her father, James Wolfe and Virgil Wolf signed the marraiage bond. the bond was valued at $100. Pat Wolfe has a picture of Marie and Virgil on their wedding day. I have their marriage lines. She got it so that a mention of the 75th anniversary could be placed in the "75 Year Ago" column in The Falmouth Outlook. Marie used the E on WOLFE but Virgil did not. Marie convinced him that he didn't know how to spell his own name so he added the E. Children of KATHRYN WOLFE and VIRGIL WOLFE are: i. ROSCOE VIRGIL6 WOLFE, b. Jul 31, 1917, Kennedy Ridge, Pendleton, KY; d. Mar 28, 1995, Lexington, Fayette, KY, USA. ii. CARL HAROLD WOLFE, b. Oct 10, 1919, Kennedy Ridge, Pendleton, KY, USA; d. Jul 1996, Polson, ,MT, USA. iii. LIVING SON WOLFE. Endnotes 1. Marriage Lines. 2. Barton Papers. 3. Death Certificate. 4. Marriage Lines. 5. Death Certificate. 6. obit.