This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: joycecollins Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.kentucky.counties.harlan/14528.3.1.2.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hello, Darrell, Please look at my January 3 response (think that is the correct one). This is where I type out the information contained on her actual death cert as posted by Ancestry.com. That death cert gives her birth date as 1861. Now I would be the first to say that dates of birth on census and on various documents can be off one way or the other. However, combined with the fact she doesn't even show up in the spring of 1860 when the census was taken fairly clearly shows she was born either in 1861 or in the latter part of the year 1860 after the census for 1860 was concluded. Personally I just think the 1858 date is inaccurate and I have no idea where it came from or what documentation anyone has for it. Even besides all of that, her mother is listed as a BALL and not a BAILEY on her death cert. I'm just stating this next from memory but I believe the 2nd marriage took place in 1859 so it does seem logical that the birth would have been in either 1860 or 1861. Haven't talked with you in a while. Hope all is well and that you are having a happy and healthy New Year. Joyce Taylor Collins La Palma, CA Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.