This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Dorothy_Cornett Surnames: Smith, Ball Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.kentucky.counties.harlan/14528.3.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hello; According to the 1850 and 1860 Harlan county census listed here by Joyce, a person can clearly see that Hugh Smith has a 2th marriage and the children listed is by his 1st wife Virginia Bailey whom died in 1858. Hugh married 2th 24 Aug, 1859-- Hugh H Smith to Nercepa Ball Minsters returns: Book A, Page 86 Married by Solomon Pope M/G As to the 1860 Census, Ellender Jane Smith is not listed in the household of Hugh Smith. It is not important as to who lives in the HH, What is important is the birth date of the person who is living in the HH. the law states that all persons in the HH born as of June 1st of that year be counted and any child born after June 1st shall be omitted. This HH was counted in the last part of July in 1860. If the Marshall was to the understanding that Ellender Jane had been born, but born after 1st June, she would not have been counted. On the original copy of the 1870 census it looks as Jane's age is given as 11, but the 11 has been changed to 10 by marking over the last 1 and is hard to be sure. Most likely is a 10. On the 1880 census, Jane, in her own HH with Allen Ball, she gives her age as 20 yrs. On the 1900 cenus,Jane, in her own HH with Allen Ball, she gives her age as 40 yrs and her birth as May, 1860. On the 1910 cenus,Jane, in her own HH with Allen Ball, she gives her age as 50 yrs. On the 1920 cenus,Jane, in her own HH with Allen Ball, she gives her age as 58 yrs. On the Ky death index; Ball, Jane--age 73- died Harlan county, Ky 6 Feb 1936--Vol 009, Cert 04403. Note; not sure if this is her but if it is, it would list her parents. Based upon the consistancy of her age from the census she was most likely born in the last part of May or first part of June 1860 and is the D/O Hugh Smith and 2th wife. best regards, Dot ====== Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.