This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/3AB.2ACI/5163.4.1.1.1.1.1.2 Message Board Post: i can give you a little more light on the subject of Eliza Clark. Her full name was Murry Eliza Stella Elizabeth Clark according to pop who is my grandfather. A few months before he died i went to visit and asked him about Liza. I feel like she is an orphan and we need to tell her story. She was greatly loved by her children. Pop was 14 when she died and he was still sad at 81. (Not that we rapiers would ever dare show emotions). I have a picture of pop Ben and Mattie or as you know her Irene. For some reason the family always called her Aunt Mattie. I didn't know her name was Irene until I read her obituary. This is a picture from when they were in grade school. Mattie (Irene) was 16 when her mom died. She was the oldest after the first baby died. (Floyd). Mattie is listed in Harlan birth records as Irene Ropier and mothers name Eliza Clark . Pop told me he thought the school was in Kitts. Pop told me Elizas mother died and her grandfather who was a Clark (John) heard they were going to put her on an orpahn train west. He went and got her and adopted her. The Clarks were also Cherokee but lived as white people. Pop said he thought they were originally from Georgia. She had a brother and Pop spelled the name Horris. There was a Horace Clark who died in a mining accident in 1951 and I don't yet if he is the same. I also have a picture of Liza. There is another said to be of Poppie and Horris. I am not sure if I still have a copy. I am still working on Liza's story. Whatever she went through in her young life we love her and are proud to be one of hers. email me angel and i will tell you more : ))