The Nancy Osborne in the 1900 and 1910 census is Nancy Brummett Osborne (wife of Hiram Osborne) mother of Amanda Osborne who married Wiley Saylor. Avery ----- Original Message ----- From: "Anne Sprentz" <asprentz@buckeye-express.com> To: <KYHARLAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2006 2:45 PM Subject: [KYHARLAN] Osbornes > Dear List, > > Over the years, I've tried to figure out my Osborne lines They always had > me stumped and it seems the more I research them, the more confused I > become. If they didn't intertwine, maybe it wouldn't be so > confusing....but it is. I have so many unanswered questions!! I'm going > to try to break them down, one by one, and ask any Osborne researchers, or > any one from the list who may be able to help me figure this all out. > > My first confusion: My question is....on the 1900 and 1910 census, she > says she had 12 children, 8 still alive. On the 1870, she is listed with > three of her children from William Osborne. Her last child from William > Osborne was William, who was born in 1863. William Osborne ( Sr) died n > 1862/63 during the Civil War.( He was the son of Enoch Osborne and Malinda > Farmer ) > > So....that's three children....if she stayed a widow---- ( which census > indicates she did) then where are the other 5 children, and who fathered > them? > > One the 1900 census, she is listed as being mother in law to Wiley Saylor, > husband of Amanda....Amanda would have been born in 1876.....is this one > of Nancy Osborne's children? It looks that way from the census record. > > Would the children have been taken away from her and sent to live with > someone else? I know they did that back then. > > This are questions from just one of my Osborne lines. In order not to > confuse and make this post a book, I'll leave it at this and post > separately on the other Osborne questions I have. I'll address Nancy > Cawood Osborne's parentage another time. > If anyone has the time or the patience or the inclination to help, I > would be forever grateful. :) > > Anne > > * > > * > ************************************* > Enoch Osborn b 1811 md Malinda Farmer b 1817 > William Osborne b 1838 d 1863 md Nancy Cawood b abt. 1839 *dau of Mary > Shell/Cawood and ? > William Osborne b. 1863 md Manerva Howard b 1856 > Mary Osborne b 1883 md Frank Finley Shackleford > > *William Osborne, who md Nancy Cawood, died in 1863 during the Civil War. > Here she is on the 1870 HC census:* > > Osborne, Nancy age 35 ( Cawood) widow of William Osborne d 1863 civil war > Stephen age 11 > Mary age 9 > William age 6 * my ggrandfather b. 1863 > Turner, Mary A( black) cook age 32 > Charles age 14 (black) farm labor > Phillips Elizabeth age 40 domestic servant > Martha age 13 at home > Susan age 2 > > living next door is her mother and step-dad (?) > 1870 HC > Osborn Jonathon 56 farmer > Mary 45 > Mary A 20 > William 19 > Jane 16 > Sarah 8 > Nancy 6 > > *1880 HC census: > > *Osborne, Nancy age 45 widown > William age 17 > living next door and above her on the census are: > > Osborne, Stephen age 21 > Elizabeth age 33 > Alafair age 3 > Gaun??? 7 mos son > > And living right below her on the census is: > > Osborne, Jonathan age 65 > Mary age 68 > Jane age 25 dau > Sarah age 20 dau > Nancy age 17 granddau > Nathan age 10 grandson > Robert age 7 grandson > Sarah age 4 grand dau > Mary age 3 grand dau > > and living next to them is: > > Osborne, William age 28 > Sarah age 27 > Martha aage 6 > John age 4 > Mary age 2 > Cloninger Grant age 10 brother-in-law > > *There is no 1890* > > > *Here she is on the 1900 HC census: > * > 1900 HC census > > Saylor Wiley b apr1872 age 28 9yrs md 4 children > Amanda b Jan 1876 age 24 > Oscar son Jun1893 age 7 > Bradley son oct 1895 age 4 > Grant son oct 1897 age 2 > Mertle dau Nov 1899 age 7 mos > Osborne Nancy mother in law age 69 widowed 12 children 8 alive > > *And here she is on the 1910 HC census:* > > 1910 HC census > > Saylor, Wiley M age 37 > Amanda age 35 > Bradley age 15 > Grant age 13 > Martha? age 10 > Ner?? age 8 > Howard age 6 > Clark age Helen age 2 > Osborn, Nancy age 80 wd 12 children 8 alive > > > > > > ==== KYHARLAN Mailing List ==== > Harlan Kentucky Websites. Harlan County Research: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~kyharlan/ > Harlan County AHGP: http://www.ahgp.org/ > Harlan County ALHN Kentucky: http://www.rootsweb.com/~kyharla2/ >

1900 Kentucky > Harlan > Forestin Creek > District 55 62/62 Saylor Wiley Head W M Apr 1872 28 M 9 years KY KY KY Saylor Amanda wife W F Jan 1876 24 M 9 years KY KY KY 4 children 4 living Saylor Oscar son W M June 1893 7 S KY KY KY Saylor Bradley son W M Oct 1895 4 S KY KY KY Saylor Myrtle daughter W F Oct 1897 2 S KY KY KY Osborn Nancy Mother in law W F 69 wd 12 children 8 living 1910> Kentucky > Harlan > Forestin Creek > District 89 42/42 Saylor Wiley Head M W 37 M1 at age 20 KY KY KY Saylor Amanda wife F W 35 M1 9 years KY KY KY 4 children 4 living Saylor Bradley son M W 15 S KY KY KY Saylor Grant son M W 13 S KY KY KY Saylor Myrtle daughter F W 10 S KY KY KY Saylor Muriley daughter F W 8 S KY KY KY Saylor Howard son M W 6 S KY KY KY Saylor Clark son M W 4 S KY KY KY Saylor Helen daughter F W 2 S KY KY KY Osborn Nancy Mother in law F W 80 wd 12 children 8 living Here is Amanda with her parents in the 1880 Census...... 1880 Kentucky > Harlan > District 1, 7, 11 And 13 > 207/207 Osborn Hiram W M 52 farmer KY KY KY Osborn Nancy W F 45 wife keeps house KY KY KY Osborn John W M 18 son laborer KY KY KY Caroline W F 15 daughter keeps house KY KY KY Hiram W M 11 son laborer KY KY KY Osborn Josephine W F 7 daughter at home KY KY KY Amanda W F 5 daughter at home KY KY KY Sarah W F 2 daughter at home KY KY KY ----- Original Message ----- From: "Avery Proffitt" <aproffitt@cinci.rr.com> To: <KYHARLAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2006 4:34 PM Subject: Re: [KYHARLAN] Osbornes > The Nancy Osborne in the 1900 and 1910 census is Nancy Brummett Osborne > (wife of Hiram Osborne) mother of Amanda Osborne who married Wiley Saylor. > > Avery > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Anne Sprentz" <asprentz@buckeye-express.com> > To: <KYHARLAN-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2006 2:45 PM > Subject: [KYHARLAN] Osbornes > > >> Dear List, >> >> Over the years, I've tried to figure out my Osborne lines They always >> had me stumped and it seems the more I research them, the more confused I >> become. If they didn't intertwine, maybe it wouldn't be so >> confusing....but it is. I have so many unanswered questions!! I'm going >> to try to break them down, one by one, and ask any Osborne researchers, >> or any one from the list who may be able to help me figure this all out. >> >> My first confusion: My question is....on the 1900 and 1910 census, >> she says she had 12 children, 8 still alive. On the 1870, she is listed >> with three of her children from William Osborne. Her last child from >> William Osborne was William, who was born in 1863. William Osborne ( Sr) >> died n 1862/63 during the Civil War.( He was the son of Enoch Osborne and >> Malinda Farmer ) >> >> So....that's three children....if she stayed a widow---- ( which census >> indicates she did) then where are the other 5 children, and who fathered >> them? >> >> One the 1900 census, she is listed as being mother in law to Wiley >> Saylor, husband of Amanda....Amanda would have been born in 1876.....is >> this one of Nancy Osborne's children? It looks that way from the census >> record. >> >> Would the children have been taken away from her and sent to live with >> someone else? I know they did that back then. >> >> This are questions from just one of my Osborne lines. In order not to >> confuse and make this post a book, I'll leave it at this and post >> separately on the other Osborne questions I have. I'll address Nancy >> Cawood Osborne's parentage another time. >> If anyone has the time or the patience or the inclination to help, I >> would be forever grateful. :) >> >> Anne >> >> * >> >> * >> ************************************* >> Enoch Osborn b 1811 md Malinda Farmer b 1817 >> William Osborne b 1838 d 1863 md Nancy Cawood b abt. 1839 *dau of Mary >> Shell/Cawood and ? >> William Osborne b. 1863 md Manerva Howard b 1856 >> Mary Osborne b 1883 md Frank Finley Shackleford >> >> *William Osborne, who md Nancy Cawood, died in 1863 during the Civil War. >> Here she is on the 1870 HC census:* >> >> Osborne, Nancy age 35 ( Cawood) widow of William Osborne d 1863 civil >> war >> Stephen age 11 >> Mary age 9 >> William age 6 * my ggrandfather b. 1863 >> Turner, Mary A( black) cook age 32 >> Charles age 14 (black) farm labor >> Phillips Elizabeth age 40 domestic servant >> Martha age 13 at home >> Susan age 2 >> >> living next door is her mother and step-dad (?) >> 1870 HC >> Osborn Jonathon 56 farmer >> Mary 45 >> Mary A 20 >> William 19 >> Jane 16 >> Sarah 8 >> Nancy 6 >> >> *1880 HC census: >> >> *Osborne, Nancy age 45 widown >> William age 17 >> living next door and above her on the census are: >> >> Osborne, Stephen age 21 >> Elizabeth age 33 >> Alafair age 3 >> Gaun??? 7 mos son >> >> And living right below her on the census is: >> >> Osborne, Jonathan age 65 >> Mary age 68 >> Jane age 25 dau >> Sarah age 20 dau >> Nancy age 17 granddau >> Nathan age 10 grandson >> Robert age 7 grandson >> Sarah age 4 grand dau >> Mary age 3 grand dau >> >> and living next to them is: >> >> Osborne, William age 28 >> Sarah age 27 >> Martha aage 6 >> John age 4 >> Mary age 2 >> Cloninger Grant age 10 brother-in-law >> >> *There is no 1890* >> >> >> *Here she is on the 1900 HC census: >> * >> 1900 HC census >> >> Saylor Wiley b apr1872 age 28 9yrs md 4 children >> Amanda b Jan 1876 age 24 >> Oscar son Jun1893 age 7 >> Bradley son oct 1895 age 4 >> Grant son oct 1897 age 2 >> Mertle dau Nov 1899 age 7 mos >> Osborne Nancy mother in law age 69 widowed 12 children 8 alive >> >> *And here she is on the 1910 HC census:* >> >> 1910 HC census >> >> Saylor, Wiley M age 37 >> Amanda age 35 >> Bradley age 15 >> Grant age 13 >> Martha? age 10 >> Ner?? age 8 >> Howard age 6 >> Clark age Helen age 2 >> Osborn, Nancy age 80 wd 12 children 8 alive >> >> >> >> >> >> ==== KYHARLAN Mailing List ==== >> Harlan Kentucky Websites. Harlan County Research: >> http://www.rootsweb.com/~kyharlan/ >> Harlan County AHGP: http://www.ahgp.org/ >> Harlan County ALHN Kentucky: http://www.rootsweb.com/~kyharla2/ >> > > > > ==== KYHARLAN Mailing List ==== > Harlan Kentucky Websites. Harlan County Research: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~kyharlan/ > Harlan County AHGP: http://www.ahgp.org/ > Harlan County ALHN: Harlan Kentucky: http://www.rootsweb.com/~kyharla2/ >

Below is William Osborn and Nancy Cawood Osborn in the 1860 HCC. I would presume the older children are siblings of Nancy and the Joseph Cawood is her father. Avery 1860 Kentucky > Harlan > Not Stated William Osbon Jr 22 M farmer Ky Nancy 20 F house holed duties KY Enoch 1 M KY Carmeliza 17 F home laborer KY Sarah 15 F home laborer KY Green 13 M KY Margaret 10 F KY Joseph Cawood 80 M none VA ----- Original Message ----- From: "Avery Proffitt" <aproffitt@cinci.rr.com> To: <KYHARLAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2006 5:02 PM Subject: Re: [KYHARLAN] Osbornes Proof > 1900 Kentucky > Harlan > Forestin Creek > District 55 > 62/62 > Saylor Wiley Head W M Apr 1872 28 M 9 years KY KY KY > Saylor Amanda wife W F Jan 1876 24 M 9 years KY KY KY 4 children 4 living > Saylor Oscar son W M June 1893 7 S KY KY KY > Saylor Bradley son W M Oct 1895 4 S KY KY KY > Saylor Myrtle daughter W F Oct 1897 2 S KY KY KY > Osborn Nancy Mother in law W F 69 wd 12 children 8 living > > > 1910> Kentucky > Harlan > Forestin Creek > District 89 > 42/42 > Saylor Wiley Head M W 37 M1 at age 20 KY KY KY > Saylor Amanda wife F W 35 M1 9 years KY KY KY 4 children 4 living > Saylor Bradley son M W 15 S KY KY KY > Saylor Grant son M W 13 S KY KY KY > Saylor Myrtle daughter F W 10 S KY KY KY > Saylor Muriley daughter F W 8 S KY KY KY > Saylor Howard son M W 6 S KY KY KY > Saylor Clark son M W 4 S KY KY KY > Saylor Helen daughter F W 2 S KY KY KY > Osborn Nancy Mother in law F W 80 wd 12 children 8 living > > Here is Amanda with her parents in the 1880 Census...... > > 1880 Kentucky > Harlan > District 1, 7, 11 And 13 > > 207/207 > Osborn Hiram W M 52 farmer KY KY KY > Osborn Nancy W F 45 wife keeps house KY KY KY > Osborn John W M 18 son laborer KY KY KY > Caroline W F 15 daughter keeps house KY KY KY > Hiram W M 11 son laborer KY KY KY > Osborn Josephine W F 7 daughter at home KY KY KY > Amanda W F 5 daughter at home KY KY KY > Sarah W F 2 daughter at home KY KY KY > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Avery Proffitt" <aproffitt@cinci.rr.com> > To: <KYHARLAN-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2006 4:34 PM > Subject: Re: [KYHARLAN] Osbornes > > >> The Nancy Osborne in the 1900 and 1910 census is Nancy Brummett Osborne >> (wife of Hiram Osborne) mother of Amanda Osborne who married Wiley >> Saylor. >> >> Avery >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Anne Sprentz" <asprentz@buckeye-express.com> >> To: <KYHARLAN-L@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2006 2:45 PM >> Subject: [KYHARLAN] Osbornes >> >> >>> Dear List, >>> >>> Over the years, I've tried to figure out my Osborne lines They always >>> had me stumped and it seems the more I research them, the more confused >>> I become. If they didn't intertwine, maybe it wouldn't be so >>> confusing....but it is. I have so many unanswered questions!! I'm >>> going to try to break them down, one by one, and ask any Osborne >>> researchers, or any one from the list who may be able to help me figure >>> this all out. >>> >>> My first confusion: My question is....on the 1900 and 1910 census, >>> she says she had 12 children, 8 still alive. On the 1870, she is >>> listed with three of her children from William Osborne. Her last child >>> from William Osborne was William, who was born in 1863. William Osborne >>> ( Sr) died n 1862/63 during the Civil War.( He was the son of Enoch >>> Osborne and Malinda Farmer ) >>> >>> So....that's three children....if she stayed a widow---- ( which census >>> indicates she did) then where are the other 5 children, and who fathered >>> them? >>> >>> One the 1900 census, she is listed as being mother in law to Wiley >>> Saylor, husband of Amanda....Amanda would have been born in 1876.....is >>> this one of Nancy Osborne's children? It looks that way from the census >>> record. >>> >>> Would the children have been taken away from her and sent to live with >>> someone else? I know they did that back then. >>> >>> This are questions from just one of my Osborne lines. In order not to >>> confuse and make this post a book, I'll leave it at this and post >>> separately on the other Osborne questions I have. I'll address Nancy >>> Cawood Osborne's parentage another time. >>> If anyone has the time or the patience or the inclination to help, I >>> would be forever grateful. :) >>> >>> Anne >>> >>> * >>> >>> * >>> ************************************* >>> Enoch Osborn b 1811 md Malinda Farmer b 1817 >>> William Osborne b 1838 d 1863 md Nancy Cawood b abt. 1839 *dau of Mary >>> Shell/Cawood and ? >>> William Osborne b. 1863 md Manerva Howard b 1856 >>> Mary Osborne b 1883 md Frank Finley Shackleford >>> >>> *William Osborne, who md Nancy Cawood, died in 1863 during the Civil >>> War. >>> Here she is on the 1870 HC census:* >>> >>> Osborne, Nancy age 35 ( Cawood) widow of William Osborne d 1863 civil >>> war >>> Stephen age 11 >>> Mary age 9 >>> William age 6 * my ggrandfather b. 1863 >>> Turner, Mary A( black) cook age 32 >>> Charles age 14 (black) farm labor >>> Phillips Elizabeth age 40 domestic servant >>> Martha age 13 at home >>> Susan age 2 >>> >>> living next door is her mother and step-dad (?) >>> 1870 HC >>> Osborn Jonathon 56 farmer >>> Mary 45 >>> Mary A 20 >>> William 19 >>> Jane 16 >>> Sarah 8 >>> Nancy 6 >>> >>> *1880 HC census: >>> >>> *Osborne, Nancy age 45 widown >>> William age 17 >>> living next door and above her on the census are: >>> >>> Osborne, Stephen age 21 >>> Elizabeth age 33 >>> Alafair age 3 >>> Gaun??? 7 mos son >>> >>> And living right below her on the census is: >>> >>> Osborne, Jonathan age 65 >>> Mary age 68 >>> Jane age 25 dau >>> Sarah age 20 dau >>> Nancy age 17 granddau >>> Nathan age 10 grandson >>> Robert age 7 grandson >>> Sarah age 4 grand dau >>> Mary age 3 grand dau >>> >>> and living next to them is: >>> >>> Osborne, William age 28 >>> Sarah age 27 >>> Martha aage 6 >>> John age 4 >>> Mary age 2 >>> Cloninger Grant age 10 brother-in-law >>> >>> *There is no 1890* >>> >>> >>> *Here she is on the 1900 HC census: >>> * >>> 1900 HC census >>> >>> Saylor Wiley b apr1872 age 28 9yrs md 4 children >>> Amanda b Jan 1876 age 24 >>> Oscar son Jun1893 age 7 >>> Bradley son oct 1895 age 4 >>> Grant son oct 1897 age 2 >>> Mertle dau Nov 1899 age 7 mos >>> Osborne Nancy mother in law age 69 widowed 12 children 8 alive >>> >>> *And here she is on the 1910 HC census:* >>> >>> 1910 HC census >>> >>> Saylor, Wiley M age 37 >>> Amanda age 35 >>> Bradley age 15 >>> Grant age 13 >>> Martha? age 10 >>> Ner?? age 8 >>> Howard age 6 >>> Clark age Helen age 2 >>> Osborn, Nancy age 80 wd 12 children 8 alive >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ==== KYHARLAN Mailing List ==== >>> Harlan Kentucky Websites. Harlan County Research: >>> http://www.rootsweb.com/~kyharlan/ >>> Harlan County AHGP: http://www.ahgp.org/ >>> Harlan County ALHN Kentucky: http://www.rootsweb.com/~kyharla2/ >>> >> >> >> >> ==== KYHARLAN Mailing List ==== >> Harlan Kentucky Websites. Harlan County Research: >> http://www.rootsweb.com/~kyharlan/ >> Harlan County AHGP: http://www.ahgp.org/ >> Harlan County ALHN: Harlan Kentucky: http://www.rootsweb.com/~kyharla2/ >> > > > > ==== KYHARLAN Mailing List ==== > Harlan Kentucky Websites. Harlan County Research: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~kyharlan/ > Harlan County: AHGP: http://www.ahgp.org/ > Harlan County ALHN: http://www.rootsweb.com/~kyharla2/ >