This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/3AB.2ACI/6814.1.1.2 Message Board Post: http://www.rootsweb.com/~seky/famfile/turner/djt.html Check this out. Go to Devil Jim Turner and read the article. This should answer your question.