RESPONSE: Hello, You and Shirley who wrote regarding Rebecca BAILEY b. abt. 1810 , dau. of William BAILEY and Elizabeth THOMPSON are related. The Rebecca BAILEY b. abt. 1810 and the Elizabeth BAILEY who married George Crider were lst cousins. Their fathers were brothers. However, if you trace Elizabeth BAILEY who married George CRIDER back you get Elizabeth's parents as Andrew Jackson BAILEY and Anna KELLY. I am related through Anna KELLY. Whereas you descend back to Jonathan KELLY, I go back to John J. KELLY married to Hannah/Henrietta RITTER who produced Mary KELLY in abt. 1808 in Lee Co., VA. This Mary KELLY grew up and married William BROWN b. abt. 1804 in Lee Co., VA. Mary KELLY and William BROWN are my maternal ggg-grandparents. I am related to the Rebecca BAILEY b. abt. 1828 who married John BROWN, s/o William and Mary KELLY BROWN and who lived the majority of their lives in Harlan Co., KY. Joyce Taylor Collins La Palma, CA In a message dated 1/26/2009 2:23:18 PM Pacific Standard Time, tornadosurvivor08@verizon.net writes: > Hi Joyce, you said you were kin to the Bailey's, im curious if you are kin > to Elizabeth Bailey who married George Crider abt. 1845? > THanks > ----- Original Message -----
This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: paulbasel Surnames: Freiley, Fraley Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.kentucky.counties.harlan/14813.2.1.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: JoyceI would appreciate it very much to have that information about the Fraley births in Monroe Co.ThanksPaul Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.
Hi Joyce, you said you were kin to the Bailey's, im curious if you are kin to Elizabeth Bailey who married George Crider abt. 1845? THanks ----- Original Message ----- From: <Joycetcollins@cs.com> To: <kyharlan@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, January 26, 2009 5:19 PM Subject: Re: [KYHARLAN] Monroe Co., KY Births - FRALEY/FRAILY/FRELY/FRILY,etc. > RESPONSE: > Hello, > > Although I am related to the BAILEYS of Harlan Co., KY, my response was to > Paul who requested I give him the FRAILEY marriages from my book of > marriages in > Monroe Co., KY. I don't know about a connection to the BAILEY family you > have listed. > > Joyce Taylor Collins > La Palma, CA > > In a message dated 1/26/2009 12:10:19 PM Pacific Standard Time, > shirley1951@verizon.net writes: >> I have Rebecca Bailey b 1810 Hawkins Co., TN dau of William Bailey and >> Elizabeth Thompson. Any relation? >> shirley1951@verizon.net > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > KYHARLAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message
RESPONSE: Hello, Although I am related to the BAILEYS of Harlan Co., KY, my response was to Paul who requested I give him the FRAILEY marriages from my book of marriages in Monroe Co., KY. I don't know about a connection to the BAILEY family you have listed. Joyce Taylor Collins La Palma, CA In a message dated 1/26/2009 12:10:19 PM Pacific Standard Time, shirley1951@verizon.net writes: > I have Rebecca Bailey b 1810 Hawkins Co., TN dau of William Bailey and > Elizabeth Thompson. Any relation? > shirley1951@verizon.net
I have Rebecca Bailey b 1810 Hawkins Co., TN dau of William Bailey and Elizabeth Thompson. Any relation? shirley1951@verizon.net ----- Original Message ----- From: <gc-gateway@rootsweb.com> To: <KYHARLAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, January 26, 2009 12:23 PM Subject: Re: [KYHARLAN] Monroe Co., KY Births - FRALEY/FRAILY/FRELY/FRILY,etc. > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Author: joycecollins > Surnames: > Classification: queries > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.kentucky.counties.harlan/14813.2.1.1.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx > > Message Board Post: > > Hello, > > May 21, 1852 > Martham BAILEY, female > Parents: Nancy FRAILEY and Hiram L. BAILEY > > Jan 27, 1856 > Francis BAILEY, female > Parents: Nancy FRAILEY and Hiram BAILEY > > Jan 5, 1874 > John S. HESTAND, Male > Parents: Mary FRAILEY, b. Monroe Co. and Barton S. HESTAND b. Monroe Co. > > Mar 5, 1875 > James E. THOMPSON, male > Parents: Ester M. FRAILEY, b. KY and Isaac THOMPSON, b. KY > > Mar 10, 1876 > Minnie G. THOMPSON, b. Monroe, female > Parents: Rosa FRAILEY b. Tennessee and R. E. THOMPSON b. KY > > July1, 1878 > THOMPSON, Mary A. b. Monroe, female > Parents: R. A. FRAILEY b. TN and E. B. THOMPSON b. Monroe Co. > > Here is another birth that does not specifically state what Nancy's maiden > name is; however, one would assume this is Nancy FRAILEY: > > Feb 15, 1854 > Edward BAILY b. Monroe, male > Parents: Hiram O. BAILY and Nancy (Illegeable), b. Monroe Co. > > Incomplete listing: > 1875 > Name not known, male > parents: John STEEL b. Monroe Co. and _____ FARLLE, b. Barren Co. > > July 7, 1854 > Elizabeth F. FRAILY , female > Parents: Isaac FRAILY and Caroline KINDRICK , residence: Monroe Co., KY > > July 23, 1858 > Martha B. BAILEY, b. Monroe, (for whatever reason, babies sex is listed as > "M" for male vs. female which it most probably is) > Parents: Hiram L. BAILEY , birthplace: Lichfield, Carlina and Nancy > FRALEY > > I also have a book of Monroe Co., KY marriages but found none for any > spelling of FRALEY . Also did not locate marriages for Hiram BAILEY or > or either THOMPSON marriage. > > Joyce Taylor Collins > La Palma, CA > > Important Note: > The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you > would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link > above and respond on the board. > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > KYHARLAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Any relation to Rebecca Bailey b 1810 Hawkins, TN d abt 1880 Harlan Co., KY, m James Short 1829 Harlan Co., KY, dau of William and Elizabeth Bailey? Shirley shirley1951@verizon.net ----- Original Message ----- From: <gc-gateway@rootsweb.com> To: <KYHARLAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, January 26, 2009 12:23 PM Subject: Re: [KYHARLAN] Monroe Co., KY Births - FRALEY/FRAILY/FRELY/FRILY,etc. > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Author: joycecollins > Surnames: > Classification: queries > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.kentucky.counties.harlan/14813.2.1.1.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx > > Message Board Post: > > Hello, > > May 21, 1852 > Martham BAILEY, female > Parents: Nancy FRAILEY and Hiram L. BAILEY > > Jan 27, 1856 > Francis BAILEY, female > Parents: Nancy FRAILEY and Hiram BAILEY > > Jan 5, 1874 > John S. HESTAND, Male > Parents: Mary FRAILEY, b. Monroe Co. and Barton S. HESTAND b. Monroe Co. > > Mar 5, 1875 > James E. THOMPSON, male > Parents: Ester M. FRAILEY, b. KY and Isaac THOMPSON, b. KY > > Mar 10, 1876 > Minnie G. THOMPSON, b. Monroe, female > Parents: Rosa FRAILEY b. Tennessee and R. E. THOMPSON b. KY > > July1, 1878 > THOMPSON, Mary A. b. Monroe, female > Parents: R. A. FRAILEY b. TN and E. B. THOMPSON b. Monroe Co. > > Here is another birth that does not specifically state what Nancy's maiden > name is; however, one would assume this is Nancy FRAILEY: > > Feb 15, 1854 > Edward BAILY b. Monroe, male > Parents: Hiram O. BAILY and Nancy (Illegeable), b. Monroe Co. > > Incomplete listing: > 1875 > Name not known, male > parents: John STEEL b. Monroe Co. and _____ FARLLE, b. Barren Co. > > July 7, 1854 > Elizabeth F. FRAILY , female > Parents: Isaac FRAILY and Caroline KINDRICK , residence: Monroe Co., KY > > July 23, 1858 > Martha B. BAILEY, b. Monroe, (for whatever reason, babies sex is listed as > "M" for male vs. female which it most probably is) > Parents: Hiram L. BAILEY , birthplace: Lichfield, Carlina and Nancy > FRALEY > > I also have a book of Monroe Co., KY marriages but found none for any > spelling of FRALEY . Also did not locate marriages for Hiram BAILEY or > or either THOMPSON marriage. > > Joyce Taylor Collins > La Palma, CA > > Important Note: > The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you > would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link > above and respond on the board. > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > KYHARLAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message
This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: joycecollins Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.kentucky.counties.harlan/14813.2.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hello, I have a book of Monroe Co. births which have 6 of your FRALEY, etc. births in it if you are interested. Joyce Taylor Collins La Palma, CA Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.
This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Kandy_BackAgee Surnames: Guerra, Moore Classification: obituary Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.kentucky.counties.harlan/14816/mb.ashx Message Board Post: NOTE: I DO NOT KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THIS INDIVIDUAL. JUST POSTING THE OBITUARY ON BERT GUERRA JR FROM THE DAYTON (OH) DAILY NEWS 1/13/09 Reverend Bert Guerra, Jr. Age 89, a resident of Miamisburg, OH passed away on January 10, 2009 at Hospice of Dayton. Bert was born on February 8, 1919 to the late Bert and Lucy Guerra-Murphy in Louellen, KY. In addition to his parents he is preceded in death by his son Bert Guerra III, a granddaughter Michelle Blevins-Scearce, a son-in-law John Holtgreven Jr., three brothers and two sisters. Bert is survived by his loving wife of 68 years Blanche (Moore) Guerra, daughters Wanda (James) Kidd, Barbara Holtgreven, Norma Barbee, a son Harold (Carolyn) Guerra, grandchildren, Greg (Jennifer) Greene, John Holtgreven III, and Krista Neeley, also by ten great grandchildren, a brother, Alonzo Guerra and many other friends and relatives. Funeral services will be held on January 15, 2009 at 1 p.m. from the GEBHART-SCHMIDT-PARRAMORE FUNERAL HOME, Miamisburg with Pastor Tom Vorhis officiating. Burial at Highland Memorial Cemetery. Friends may call at the funeral home on January 14, 2009 f! rom 6-8 p.m. Memorial contributions may be made to Hospice of Dayton in Reverend Bert Guerra Jr.'s memory. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.
This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Kandy_BackAgee Surnames: Young, Browning, Capaccio Classification: obituary Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.kentucky.counties.harlan/14815/mb.ashx Message Board Post: NOTE: I DO NOT KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THIS INDIVIDUAL. JUST POSTING THE OBITUARY ON REE CAPACCIO FROM DAYTON (OH) DAILY NEWS 1/14/09 Ree Young Capaccio, age 83, of Miamisburg, OH, passed away January 13, 2009. She was born in Harlan, KY, on August 14, 1925 to the late Henry and Sarah (Browning) Young. Ree was a Cosmetology Instructor for Mid-America Beauty College in Chicago, IL, for more than 30 years. Later in retirement she worked for Sam's Club at Dayton Mall as a demonstrator. Ree had a quick wit and wonderful sense of humor; she brought laughter and smiles to many lives. She is survived by her husband of 41 years, Joseph M. Capaccio; her daughter and son-in-law, Mary & Jim Gold of Austin, TX; her step-daughter, Patricia Ann (Lee) Townley of Miamisburg, OH; 3 grandchildren, Johnny (Becky) Warmowski, Joey (Janine) Warmowski, and Kristie (Fred) Hernandez all of TX; 6 great-grandchildren, Destiny, Breana, Kayla, Danielle, Codey, and Austin; 2 sister, Gladys McDaniel of Miamisburg, OH, and Fay (Frank) Gazetta; 2 brothers, Cole (Joann) Young all of Middletown, OH; and Lynn (Barb) Young of Miamisburg, OH; ! numerous nieces and nephews. Friends may call 5-8 p.m., January 15, 2009 at the Dalton Funeral Home, Corner of State Route 4 & Weaver Road, Germantown, OH. Mass of Christian Burial will be Celebrated, 10:30 a.m. January 16, 2009 at Our Lady of Good Hope Catholic Church, 6 Third St., Miamisburg, OH with Fr. Tom Nevels, Celebrant. Burial will be at Miamisburg Catholic Cemetery. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.
This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: paulbasel Surnames: Freiley Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.kentucky.counties.harlan/14813.2.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Thanks Joyce I have the will of Christian Freiley as well as the death record of his son, Edward. I also have the 1850 Monroe County census record of Christian Freiley[2] who is the son of Edward Freiley, another son of Christian[1]. I appreciate the effort nonetheless. Now if I could only find where my John Freiley was in Kentucky from 1816 to 1820 I would be a happy man. Paul Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.
This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: joycecollins Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.kentucky.counties.harlan/14813.2.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hello, Found this death record: FRAILEY, Edward, widow, age 83 yers; cause of death: heart disease; born: TN; died on July 20, 1874 in Monroe Co., KY (next to Barren Co.); born abt. : 1791 Father: Christian FRALEY born in Penn. Mother: Elizabeth Barren Co., KY Wills Christian FRIELY - dated 11-16-1810 My wife, Elizabeth, my 3 oldest children, Esther, Nicholas and Edward. Rest of my sons, John, Adam, Jonathan and Samuel. Wit: Samuel MARRS, Thomas WILEY and Ezequeal SPRINGER. Probated February 1811 NOTE: This was on Ancestry.com's data base. This is probably some descendant of one of the sons of Christian FRALEY: Dwelling 50-53 Monroe Co., KY FRALEY, Christian, 39, b. KY - Miller . . Sarah, 33, b. TN . . E. O., 3, female, b. KY . .E. W., 1, female, b. KY . .Mary, 5, dau, b. KY WEBB, Mary, 17 Joyce Taylor Collins La Palma, CA Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.
This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: paulbasel Surnames: Freiley, Billingsley Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.kentucky.counties.harlan/14813.3/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Ooops, Mary Elizabeth's last name is Billingsley, not Pennington. Sorry Paul Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.
Sharon, Thanks so much for posting this. Your explaination contains a lot of wisdom on the subject of names. I would like to add also that while the county clerks should have known how to read and write, a lot of the times they would record names by how they sounded to the clerk. If the clerk wasn't sure how to spell something and asked the person how to spell it, it would not have been a surprise that the person would not know how to spell their own name or how to spell it correctly. So, the clerk would sometimes have to be forced to spell the name on how it sounded to his ear. Your advice is great! Melissa BarkerGenealogist for Tennessee and KentuckyE-mail: kaitysmom@peoplestel.net _________________________________________________________________ HotmailĀ® goes where you go. On a PC, on the Web, on your phone. http://www.windowslive-hotmail.com/learnmore/versatility.aspx#mobile?ocid=TXT_TAGHM_WL_HM_versatility_121208
I would like to interject a bit of wisdom here. I have nothing to do with this line being discussed but read in another email that one researcher had to be careful researching the Friley/Fraley line because of the various spellings....one being Scots/Irish and one being German. A bit of learned wisdom....having researched in Eastern KY for over 30 years, I have learned that the spelling of a name does not matter. We should not attach any significance to the spelling of any name. If a name is spelled in a German manner it does NOT mean that the person was of German descent. This applies to all nationalities. The reason? By and large, most of the earliest of KY's residents could not read and write. At that time, we were a land of immigrants. The people who worked in the county court clerk's office obviously could read and write. When a record was created, the clerk who wrote it spelled it like he would have spelled it in HIS native language. If the clerk was German, he spelled it the way a German would spell it. If he was Scots/Irish, he spelled it that way. The spellings of names is, for the most part, a result of however the clerk creating the record wanted to spell it. I once saw a marriage record that had the father of the bride spelled 'Reyburn' and the bride's name spelled 'Reaburn' on the same piece of paper. I can't explain that one! <smile> Sharon Young Jebavy <>< Ancestors From Poore Fork, Harlan Co., KY 1811-1829
This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: paulbasel Surnames: Freiley Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.kentucky.counties.harlan/14813.2.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hello Joyce Many thanks for the reply. Christian Frayly (Freiley) was definitely the father (solid sources) of my John Freiley and in 1810 John was 14 years old and living at home in Barren County. The four Fraleys you listed are not related as far as I know. I have found that I have to be very careful with the spelling variants. It appears that Fraley is more of an English/Irish extraction whereas Freiley is more Germanic. By the way, Christian died in Nov 1810 after the census was taken. All of John's siblings got married in Barren County and most are on the 1820 census of that county, but John was married in 1816 - 1817 and left the county. An old family oral history states that he was married in Boonesboro then lived in Middlesboro. His first born, Samuel Eugene was born in 1818 in Kentucky (confirmed by later census) and I am assuming in what became Harlan County in 1819 but have no proof. His second born, Elizabeth H. was born in 1820 in Tennessee (confirmed by later census). Therefore he was somewhere in Harlan county or the area that later became Bell for only a couple of years before Elizabeth was born in Tennessee. Or, the oral history is just wrong (as many are) and he and his young family were somewhere else in Kentucky. I know from later sources that he never returned to Kentucky but lived in the 1850 - 1870 period in Bledsoe, Hamilton, and Rhea counties, TN. Therefore, he was too young in 1810 to show up on the 1810 census and in 1820 was already in Tennessee where Elizabeth was born. I can't find him in 1820 anywhere in Tennessee. I thought my only chance of finding him in this 1816 - 1819 period was through tax lists or deeds. You may be asking yourself why go to all this trouble to find out where an ancestor was during a 3 year period. I am writing a research paper on this family and am really trying to nail down every detail I can. Thanks for your notes on the county and city formations, that was very helpful. If you come upon any other small details please send them along. Regards Paul Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.
This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: mo_jenkins Surnames: Guthrie, Guttery Classification: lookup Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.kentucky.counties.harlan/14814/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Could SKS do an obituary lookup for me from Harlan Co.? The name is Marcus Newton Guthrie or Guttery. He died on June 2, 1962. He was born in 1886 and was married to Bertha. Thanks in advance for any help. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.
This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: joycecollins Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.kentucky.counties.harlan/14813.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hello, On my 1810 book of the Kentucky census, there are these names as of the 1810: FRALEY, Daniel FRALEY, Elizt. FRALEY, John * * FRALEY, Willm. (assume this is for William) NOTE: These folks were all listed in the county of Warren, Kentucky as of the 1810. Harlan Co. was NOT formed until 1819 or so so John FRALEY would not have appeared in Harlan earlier than that. He could have been in Knox Co. from which it was formed but he doesn't appear on either the 1810 or the 1820 Knox Co. As for Middlesboro, Bell Co., KY, it was NOT formed until around 1868 and he doesn't appear on the 1870 Bell Co., their first census. He doesn't appear on the 1860 Harlan Co. and he doesn't appear on either the 1850 or 1860 Knox Co., KY Fed. Census. I did notice on the 1810 Barren County, KY Fed. census at Dwellings 444 and 445 there was a Christian FRAYLY and an Eds. FRAYLY. Who was the father of John FRAILY, etc. spellings or do you know? JOyce Taylor Collins La Palma, CA Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.
This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: kaitysmom Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.kentucky.counties.harlan/14813.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Paul, Someone else might add to this, but if I recall off the top of my head, the tax lists go back to 1820 and are available from 1820-1829. As for the deeds, they go back to 1820 as well. I can access these records at the archives and if my memory is right, these dates are correct. Hope this helps. Melissa Barker Genealogist for Tennessee and Kentucky E-mail: kaitysmom@peoplestel.net Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.
This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: paulbasel Surnames: Freiley, Pennington Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.kentucky.counties.harlan/14813/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Does anyone know if tax lists and land deeds exist for Harlan County for the period of approx. 1817 to 1825? I am trying to find out if a John Freiley (Frailey, Fraley, Frely, Frily, Freily, Fraly) lived in the county during this period of time. John Freiley, b. 1796 Washington County, TN, lived in Barren County, KY from 1801 until his marriage to Mary Elizabeth Pennington about 1817 presumably in Boonesborough, KY then moved to Middlesboro, KY near Chigger Hill. Any help greatly appreciated. Paul Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.
This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: joycecollins Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.kentucky.counties.harlan/14812.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hello, There are several Jarvis CRAIGS posted on Ancestry.com but none who seem to fit the one you are seeking. I am NOT related so far as I would know. On the 1930 Harlan Co., KY, Dwelling 74-74, this would appear to be the mother, Alice HOOD: HOOD, Napoleon, 40, b. KY . .Hattie, 35, wife (nee RICE) . . Alice N., dau 1 yr 9 months, b. KY Then later on born to maiden name, Alice HOOD in Harlan Co. are a Janie S. born in 1947 and a James W. b. in 1949. Then about 20 years later on, there is a Janie S. CRAIG having three children in Daviess Co., KY who are Danny Ray ROTEN in 1967; David Scott ROTEN in 1969 and Janie Sue ROTEN in 1968. Assuming this Jarvis CRAIG was born in 1946 or so, he might have served in the Vietnam Conflict. Joyce Taylor Collins La Palma, CA Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.