This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: elizaellen50 Surnames: Barnes, Maul, Wilder, Warf and Brock Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.kentucky.counties.harlan/14832.2.1.3.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I'll check out Myra, also. But here's a new question - on these early death certificates it lists "place of burial or removal" (which is were I found Murna written). Place of burial is obvious, but what exactly is meant by "removal"? Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: kathyrapier Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.kentucky.counties.harlan/14832.2.1.3.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Myra still exists but maybe not a post office lol. I passed it a few months ago it is between Pikeville and Jenkins Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: esmiddy Surnames: Raleigh Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.kentucky.counties.harlan/14832.2.1.3/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I don't mean to stick my nose in here, but I have a book called "Kentucky Place Names," by Robert M. Rennick, that gives the names of "supposedly" all the old post offices and the areas they served. There is a "Myra" Kentucky here, and it says this P.O. was located on US 23/119 and Shelby Creek, at the mouth of Beefhide Creek, 12 and one half miles south of Pikeville in Pike County. That is as close as it gets. There is no Murna, KY listed. Looks to be around the Dorton area, since that is in paretheses beside it, or else it is also called Dorton. These board messages are being gatewayed to our Harlan County mailing list, which is how I saw it. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: elizaellen50 Surnames: Harrell, Barnes, Young, Maul, Warf and Brock Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.kentucky.counties.harlan/14832.2.1.2.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I was thinking along the lines of a cemetery myself. Thanks for the Brock information. I only knew Elzie's maiden name as Garrett, but not her parents name. You've given me a good starting point! Gail Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: kathyrapier Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.kentucky.counties.harlan/14832.2.1.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I am thinking it is a mispelling of Smyrna? Maybe an old church graveyard in Bell county with that name? They have sometimes changed the church names but that is where I would look. I did find John and Elsie in Bell county in 1900 census household is John BROCK 1876 born in Ky parents born in Ky farmer rented land Elsie BROCK wife 1881 born in Ky parents born in Ky James BROCK son 1898 Leticia JONES aunt about 1825 Jenny CARTER charge(foster child?) about 1889 according to a family tree listed on ancestry it says Elsie was Elzie GARRETT and her parents were Noah GARRETT b. 1861 and her mother was America INGRAM (I have found you cannot go by what others post to family trees, sometimes their work is incomplete but this may give you hints) KY death certificate lists John BROCK of Fourmile in Bell county, died Oct. 13. 1936 wife is listed as Elzie GARRET BROCK informant was James BROCK of Coalgood, KY Lists Johns parents as James BROCK and Susan CRANK Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

I have Barnes and Harrels in my father and mothers lines. Barnes in my Barnes line and Harrel in my Ray line. Who are yours? Dr. Bob! ________________________________ From: "gc-gateway@rootsweb.com" <gc-gateway@rootsweb.com> To: KYHARLAN-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Tuesday, March 3, 2009 4:32:50 AM Subject: Re: [KYHARLAN] Murna Kentucky - Where?? This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: elizaellen50 Surnames: Harrell, Barnes, Young, Maul, Warf Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.kentucky.counties.harlan/14832.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Thanks, I'll check out the places in Virginia. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KYHARLAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Janette_Nolan Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.kentucky.counties.harlan/14833.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: What is the name of the person who is buried there? I could check and see if I can find a cemetery listing for that person. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: AbeTaylor35 Surnames: Brock, Howard, Saylor, Taylor Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.kentucky.counties.harlan/14832.2.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Murray, KY is south and a little east of Paducka, KY. near the KY/Tennessee border. Easy to find on MapQuest. My Grandfather, Lee Taylor, was half brother to some of the Pineville Brock's. Their father was Hiram C. Brock. My grandfather's mother was Sena J Taylor, said to have been born in NC. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: LillieRobbins50 Surnames: HOWARD/WEIDERHOFT Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.kentucky.counties.harlan/14830.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Thank you Jeanette. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: elizaellen50 Surnames: Harrell, Barnes, Young, Maul, Warf and Brock Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.kentucky.counties.harlan/14832.2.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Do you know what area Murry was in? Don't think they had any close ties outside of the tri-state Cumberland Gap area, so it doesn't make sense for it not to be around there. By the way, my Mothers maiden name was Brock and her Father (Drexel) was from Pineville - Magnet Holler I think. Brothers Noah, Ed and I think James and sister Fanny who married a Stewart. Their parents were John and Elssie (not sure of the spelling) Brock. Any relation to your Brocks? I have just started looking on the Brock side and don't have much information. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: elizaellen50 Surnames: Harrell, Barnes, Young, Maul, Warf Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.kentucky.counties.harlan/14832.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Thanks, I'll check out the places in Virginia. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: AbeTaylor35 Surnames: Taylor, Brock, Howard, Saylor Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.kentucky.counties.harlan/14832.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Seems I remember a Murry, KY. Could that be what you are looking for? Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: skipslick Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.kentucky.counties.harlan/14832.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Maybe Murna is a ghost town and not listed on the map. Or possibly Murna is a mis-spell for another town such as Marion, KY east of Middlesboro. Also is a Marion, Meherrin and Moran, VA. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: mo_jenkins Surnames: Guthrie Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.kentucky.counties.harlan/14833/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Could someone tell me what cemetery would be Kenvir #3 (from a 1962 burial)? Is it the same as Evarts #3 or does it have another name now? Thanks. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

According to Rootsweb town search website there is not a town Murna. This is a good site if you want to know what county a town is in. Carter http://resources.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/townco.cgi ----- Original Message ----- From: <gc-gateway@rootsweb.com> To: <KYHARLAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, March 02, 2009 6:09 PM Subject: Re: [KYHARLAN] Murna Kentucky - Where?? > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Author: AbeTaylor35 > Surnames: Taylor, Brock, Howard, Saylor > Classification: queries > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.kentucky.counties.harlan/14832.2/mb.ashx > > Message Board Post: > > Seems I remember a Murry, KY. Could that be what you are looking for? > > Important Note: > The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you > would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link > above and respond on the board. > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > KYHARLAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG. > Version: 7.5.552 / Virus Database: 270.11.3/1975 - Release Date: 2/27/2009 > 7:05 AM >

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: kaitysmom Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.kentucky.counties.harlan/14831.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Phyllis, I am not personally researching the Noe family, however, if you can give the message board readers some dates related to this family, it's possible some on the list can check sources they have access to and see if they can dig up any information for you? Melissa Barker Genealogist for Tennessee and Kentucky E-Mail: kaitysmom@peoplestel.net Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: elizaellen50 Surnames: Harrell, Barnes, Young, Maul, Warf Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.kentucky.counties.harlan/14832/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Can anyone tell me where "Murna" Kentucky might be? It is listed as the "place of burial or removel" on the death certificate of my grandmothers brother who died at the age of 4 in Sept 1922 in Harlan. But we were always told that he was buried in Lee County Virginia on property they purchased in April 1922. I know he worked for the Mary Helen Coal Corp. and they lived in Coalgood for several years, but can't find Murna on any map. Thanks, Gail Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Janette_Nolan Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.kentucky.counties.harlan/14830.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: In the book SOUTHWESTERN CEMETERIES IN HARLAN COUBTY KY--listed in the Old Creech Cemetery at Wallins is Gustav Wiederhoft ( 9 Jan ) 1882--(5 Feb) 1968. The annotated version for this book has that Gustav was the husband of Catherine and s/o Fredrick/ Eva (Meckal) Wiederhoft. I did not find a listing for Catherine. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: pbates4 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.kentucky.counties.harlan/14831/mb.ashx Message Board Post: does ANYONE out there have a clue as to who susan noes, mom and dad were-they had so many children- some one somewhere has to know something!!!!! thank you phyllis bates- i am a descendant of theirs Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: pbates4 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.kentucky.counties.harlan/35.38.56.61.65.164.180.3014.3006.3010/mb.ashx Message Board Post: did you ever find out who susan noe's- felixs' wife's -mom and dad were? when felix died in 1917 he was married, but i think it was not to susan, i think susan had died earlier and he remarried- thank you i am a descendant of theirs=-phyllis bates Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.