Sherry, YES! I was stuck for over two years on my husband's Reeder line back in the early 1700's. I had him do the DNA test and sure enough he matched a Rader of VA. An older couple was the sponsors of Jacob Reeder's children's baptism in a small community in PA and the older couple was coming 30-40 miles to sponsor these baptisms. Well older people coming 30-40 miles in the early 1700's would be for a really good reason but I could not prove any relationship. So when he matched this older gentleman (age 86) who had done the DNA test thinking he would never come up with a match until long after he was dead had done the DNA test for the generations to come after him and he was in shock. He had been doing genealogy since he was 12 years old, had been to Germany and researched the family and could not find proof that Jacob Reeder was actually the son of Michael Rader and wife Barbara Moyer. But with the DNA test we were able to prove that the Reeder and Rader family was one. Everyone believed that Jacob & Michael were son and father but no written proof could be found by numerous researchers even professionals. Well the older gentlemen had published a book on his Rader family but did not add my husband's Reeder line because he could not prove in paper that the Reeder and Rader family was one. My husband connected into his family on the 9th generation. We have since held a family reunion and the older gentleman was not able to attend but his son who has taken over the genealogy was able to. We now know my husband's family line back to the early 1600's in Switzerland. My husband has now had 5 matches to Rader men. My husband is descended from the Brock, Hall, Barnes, Lansdown, Noe, Coldiron, Howe, Howard, etc. families that came through Harlan and surrounding Counties. If you have a chance to have a male in your family donate you the DNA do so before it is too late. My great uncle donated me his DNA and we have had a match. His grandmother never married until after her two sons were born. We are now trying to see who out of the match family would have been in Webster Co. KY in May 1880 because her son was born the next year. It has certainly made for a great adventure and a shock for the match family as it was my Turner great uncle and we matched a McKinlay. My brother donated me his DNA for the Stewart's of NC project and we have had two matches. We knew we would match but had no paper proof. But the first match took over 2 years to happen and it really was beginning to seem like we were from Mars. Good luck, all three DNA tests have be adventureous, exciting, and exhaberating until it finally happens. It has opened all kinds of doors before us. To do it again I would pay double to have it done. I have donated money to some of my other family lines to help pay for a distant cousin to do the test and one disproved entirely that we were not descendants of the famous Ralph Shelton and Mary Crispin line-wasn't even close. I am now thinking I will have a distant cousin donate me his DNA to be able to trace another line which is dying out and only him left. I have got to do it soon or it will be too late. Thanks and good luck, just do it! Brenda Stewart-Reeder -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.11/44 - Release Date: 7/8/2005

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: HENSLEY HELTON HOSKINS HOWARD & related families. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/3AB.2ACI/6783.1.2 Message Board Post: Michelle I too would like a invite to the King family web site you mentioned. Thanks, Randy Oplinger

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/3AB.2ACI/227.228.261.2 Message Board Post: William Marion Mitchell (b. 14 Apr 1862 died 1 Sept 1951 in Dallas Co, Texas.) He was the s/o James and Mary Ann (Sergent) Mitchell. He had 7 children by his first wife--Jane Grubb. He then went to Texas ( 1910 Haskell Co, Texas census) and had 10 chldren by Sarah Elnora Hall. Sarah was born 2 Feb 1872 in Harlan co and died 12 Feb 1947 in Dallas Co, Texas.--Janette Nolan

RESPONSE: The DNA testing program that I am most familiar with involves only the use of a male who carries the exact same surname as all those others being tested. As I understand there is some other type of testing involving females but it apparently is little used. As far as my ggg-grandfather who was Walter WALKER b. in the 1770's, our WALKER research group has been very successful in proving other descendants of his family, proving that his brother was the John WALKER , who first appeared on the tax lists of Knox Co., KY in 1803 with Walter . There was an early 1800's Will left by an elder John WALKER in Hawkins Co., TN that named both "a" John and Walter WALKER and others along with old John WALKER's second family from another marriage. A number of those male descendants have come forth and been able to prove with DNA testing that they were indeed from this same family. Likewise, there have been a small number of cases where people thought they were part of this family and DNA testing proved otherwise. Our family was also very fortunate to have an old ca 1840 letter from Walter WALKER and Annie UNK. WALKER addressed to my gg-grandparents, Cornelius Alexander TAYLOR b. 1794; d. 1874 and his wife, Sarah Ann WALKER b. 1795; c. ca 1885. This old letter provided a number of family names and family news let us know where Walter was in 1840 which was Owen Co., IN. Then we found at the LDS Family Center in SLC Walter's intestate estate court proceedings from 1850 which had been microfilmed by the LDS. In those court proceedings, Walter's heirs are named. The last named in the court proceedings is my gg-grandmother, Sarah WALKER, who was addressed as : Sarah TAYLOR (her married name) Since TAYLOR is our family surname, only my brothers and male cousins would be eligible to participate in any TAYLOR DNA project. Joyce Taylor Collins La Palma, CA Hello Everyone! Most of you I have shown a genetic match to and I was wondering if any of you had actually had any luck with the DNA testing and filling in the blanks in your genealogy research. I would love to hear from all of you. Sherry

Hello Everyone! Most of you I have shown a genetic match to and I was wondering if any of you had actually had any luck with the DNA testing and filling in the blanks in your genealogy research. I would love to hear from all of you. Sherry

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Jackson Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/3AB.2ACI/6802.2.1.1.1.1 Message Board Post: Thanks for the information. Someone did give me a possible street address from a 1964 telephone book. The address sounds familiar. I do remember them having a telephone. Thanks for your help. Lisa

In a message dated 7/8/05 1:54:24 PM Eastern Daylight Time, jaja_cookie@yahoo.com writes: > Thanks for the info on Bob & Bess' kids. > Any idea what address Bob & Bess lived at in Harlan County before they were > both put in nursing homes? > They lived in what I remember as a small subdivision of frame houses. It was > near the mines. > Thanks, > Lisa > > I found an old 1964 telephone book and it has Bob R. Jackson at Rio Vista . > It also had Mrs Walter Jackson at Baxter. Sorry but it had no street > addresses.---Janette Nolan

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/3AB.2ACI/6783.1.1.1 Message Board Post: Hi Shirley! I'm happy to find any of the King relatives so we can share our notes, photos, etc. Which King line are you descended from? If you would, please send me an email: twopupmom@yahoo.com so I can get with you on the invite. Thanks~Michelle

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Thomas, King, Bailey,Hensley Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/3AB.2ACI/6783.1.1 Message Board Post: I, too am a King decendant, would love to join the King family web site. Sincerely, Shirley

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/3AB.2ACI/6802.2.1.1.1 Message Board Post: Hello, Although I was born in Harlan Co., my parents left there when I was a little past 2 years of age. I suspect the housing you are speaking of would have belonged to whatever mining company operation was there at that time. My understanding is that most of this type of housing disappeared long ago. Perhaps someone who has grown up and lived right there in Harlan Co. could have some better idea of the numbering system for the housing. Sometimes you can luck out with an old area telephone company book, assuming they had a telephone at that time. If they received Social Security benefit checks in later life, there would be a record of where their benefit checks would have been mailed. Since they passed away in a nursing home facility, it is probably not going to be the address you are looking for. Joyce Taylor Collins La Palma, CA

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Jackson Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/3AB.2ACI/6802.2.1.1 Message Board Post: Thanks for the info on Bob & Bess' kids. Any idea what address Bob & Bess lived at in Harlan County before they were both put in nursing homes? They lived in what I remember as a small subdivision of frame houses. It was near the mines. Thanks, Lisa

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/3AB.2ACI/6802.2.1 Message Board Post: Walter Jackson died 19 Dec 1990 and married Thelma E. Tuggle in 1934 in HC. Thelma died Dec 1992 in Dayton, Ohio. Axie Jackson died 3 Mch 2001 and married in 1935 to Bill Davenport. He died 10 Jan 1973 Millie Mae Jackson died 1 Dec 1968 and married in 1938 to Chester Neff. Janette Nolan

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: HENSLEY HELTON HOSKINS HOWARD & related families. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/3AB.2ACI/6803.1 Message Board Post: Anna thanks for the info on these children of Felix King. Randy Oplinger

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Jackson Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/3AB.2ACI/6804 Message Board Post: I want to thank those who have sent me information about my great-grandparents. Now I wonder if there is possibly anyone still living you may have known them personally. Would like to know "about them"? Those who lived or worked around Bob? Thanks Lisa

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: KING Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/3AB.2ACI/6803 Message Board Post: 6th child. Alice br 30 Mar 1896 married Chester Wilder 28 May 1910. Chester and Alice lived all their married lift in King's Hollar at Dressen,Harlan,KY. They had four children, all girls. Alice died 4 Jan 1961 and is buried at Rest Haven Cem. Keith, Harlan, KY. 7th child Daisy King br 24 Aug 1898 married Floyd B. Farley on 23 Jul 1915 at Harlan, KY. They had twelve children. In March 1936 Daisy King Farley moved with Floyd and all the children to Martin Cty, IN. Daisy died 20 May 1974 after a long illness of cancer. She is buried at Goodwill Cem. Loogootee,Martin, IN. 8th child Ollie King br 20 Jan 1901 married Henry McDonald on 18 May 1920 at Harlan, KY. They had one child. Ollie was also married to Oscar Wright, 1928; and Bert Johnson, 1942. Ollie died 12 Jun 1943 and is buried at Geo. Ball Cem. Dressen, Harlan, KY. 9th child Cora King br 1 Jun 1905 Married to Lonnie T. Owens on 29 Mar 1923. They had five children. Cora died 25 Jan 1988 and is buried at Rest Haven Cem. Keith,Harlan, KY. More later.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/3AB.2ACI/6802.2 Message Board Post: Hello, I forgot to mention to you that this couple are buried at the Resthaven Cem., Keith, Harlan Co., KY. They are listed as follows: Row 21 - Section from HOLCOMB/DAVIDSON Monument Leftward per cemetery book published by the Harlan Heritage Seekers, HC KY JACKSON, Robert b. Jan 1, 1895; d. Dec. 2, 1980 (wed 24 Feb 1912) JACKSON, Elizabeth, b. Apr 14, 1895; d. July 11, 1981 They are listed side by side. I note also in another area of this same cemetery, Row 4 at Steps - Dome Section a couple listings which may also be part of their family; however, I have no knowledge of that one way or the other: JACKSON, Walter b. May 26, 1913 - - (no end date) JACKSON, Thelma E. b. Jun 20, 1914 - - (no end date) Again, this would appear to be your grandmother: Row 5 - Bible Section, South; located on East Hill and parallel to Exit Road. NEFF, Mae b. 7-Aug 1921; d. Dec 1, 1969 Joyce Taylor Collins La Palma, CA

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: MILLS, JACKSON Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/3AB.2ACI/6802.1.1 Message Board Post: Hello, Wow! This is your lucky day because I not only found the marriage record but it has both the mother and the father in it. Knox Co., KY Marriage Book Z February 24, 1912, Page 54 JACKSON, Robert, 17, res: Clay Co., KY; born: Clay Co., KY lst marriage; Occup: farmer Father: Daw JACKSON b. KY Mother: Linda JACKSON b. KY to: MILLS, Elizabeth, 16, Res: Knox Co.; born: Knox Co., KY lst marriage Father: Wm. MILLS b. KY Mother: Ester MILLS b. KY Married at William MILLS, Knox Co. KY by F. M. DAVIS; witnesses: Mitchel DAVID, Buck GRUBB and John MILLS I believe using the information I have provided to you you should post in BOTH Knox Co. and Clay Co. Message Boards to locate even more information on these families. Joyce Taylor Collins La Palma, CA

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: MILLS Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/3AB.2ACI/6802.1 Message Board Post: Hello, I began by checking out the births of their children listed on the 1930 Harlan Co. Fed. Census provided to you by Phyliss. By the time I was through, I realized I have them in my data base and can provide you some additional information. From the KBI: JACKSON, Walter b. 5-26-1913 in Clay Co., KY; maiden name of mother: Elizabeth MILLS, Vol. 51; Cert #25168 JACKSON, Millie M. b. 8-7-1921 in Clay Co., KY; maiden name of mother: Lizie MILLS; Vol. 081, Cert 40272 JACKSON, Axie b. 8-4-1918 in Clay Co., KY; maiden name of mother: Bessie MILLS As of the 1920 Clay Co., this family appears as follows: Dwelling 47-31 - Otter Creek, Prec. 8 JACKSON, Robert, head, 25, b. KY; parents b. KY . .Bessie, 25, wife, b. KY; parents b. KY . .Walter, 6, son, b. KY . .Axie, dau, 3 yrs 2 mo's, b. KY Living next to them is: Dwelling 47-30 JACKSON, Clay, 73, head, b. KY; parents b. KY . .Nancy, 77, wife, b. KY This is Henry "Clay" JACKSON with his wife, Nancy LEWIS who he married 8-30-1866 in Clay Co., KY). Clay JACKSON also had a mistress with whom he had children who was Fannie GRUBB who at that time was living in Dwelling 47-34. On the 1900 Clay Co., your Robert "Bob" JACKSON shows up with his grandfather, as follows: Dwelling 251-251 JACKSON, Clay, head, b. 5-1847, 53, mar. 30 yrs, b. KY; parents b. KY . .Nancy, wife, b. 3-1855, mar. 30 yrs, 10 children born; 7 living, b. NC; parents b. NC . Clark, son, b. 3-1874, 26, single, b. KY . .Mary, grandau, b. 6-1890, 9, b. KY . .Robert, grandson, b. 1-1895, 5, b. KY * * * At the same time, Fanny GRUBB shows up as follows: Dwelling 253-253 GRUBB, Fanny, head of household, b. 4-1861, 39, single, 6 born; 4 living, b. KY . .Mary E., dau, b. 3-1882, 18, b. KY . .James, son, b. 6-1887, 12, b. KY . .Patty, dau, b. 1-1895, 5, b. KY . .Harvey, son, b. 5-1899, 1, b. KY 1910 Clay Co. Fed. Census Dwelling 338-3241 JACKSON, Clay, head, 66, mar. 1 time, mar. 40 yrs, b. KY . .Nancy, wife, 70, mar. 1, mar. 40 yrs, 10 born; 6 living, b. KY . .Mary, dau, single, 20, b. KY . .Robert, grandson, 15, b. KY * * * . .Bertha, grandau, 2, b. KY I don't know who the parents are of Robert JACKSON but most likely it was one of his female children with Nancy LEWIS JACKSON. The fact he remains with his grandparents "may" mean that his mother died; however, I have no knowledge one way or the other. Sometimes if you are fortunate, a death certificate will finally reveal who the parents actually were. Also, his marriage record "may" include the parent/s names. Another more costly source is to obtain his Social Security Applic. which will contain his known parents. I can send you the file I have which is simply a working file if you would like. I am not a direct descendent but am connected to this family. I did not see their marriage in Clay Co., KY nor did I see it in Bell Co. I will look for it in Knox Co. Joyce Taylor Collins La Palma, CA

1930 Federal census Harlan Co KY Precinct 52 Pansy Slattes? Fork Robert Jackson 33 md at 21 owns home KY KY KY Bessie Jackson 37 md at 22 (?) KY KY KY Walter son 16 Adie dtr 11 Milly May dtr 8 Hope this helps Phyllis ----- Original Message ----- From: <jaja_cookie@yahoo.com> To: <KYHARLAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2005 1:07 PM Subject: [KYHARLAN] lookup or information on Robert "Bob" and Elizabeth "Bess" Jackson > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Surnames: Jackson > Classification: Query > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/3AB.2ACI/6802 > > Message Board Post: > > Looking for information about Robert "Bob" and Elizabeth "Bess" Jackson > who lived in Harlan most of their lives. They lived I believe in "Baxter" > until they had to go to nursing homes in the mid-late 1970s. > They lived near the entrance to the mines. > They had several children: Walter Jackosn, who moved to the Dayton, Ohio > area and my grandmother Millie Mae Jackson-Neff, who died in 1969. > I need to know if possibe an exact address of Bob and Bess during the time > they were alive. > Any information about them or their relatives would be helpful. Bob may > have been raised as an orphan? This was rumored but not sure if true. > Thanks > > > ==== KYHARLAN Mailing List ==== > Harlan Kentucky Websites. > Harlan County Research: http://www.rootsweb.com/~kyharlan/ > Harlan County: AHGP: http://www.ahgp.org/ > Harlan Kentucky GenWeb: http://www.rootsweb.com/~kyharla3/ > Harlan County ALHN: http://www.rootsweb.com/~kyharla2/ > >

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Jackson Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/3AB.2ACI/6802 Message Board Post: Looking for information about Robert "Bob" and Elizabeth "Bess" Jackson who lived in Harlan most of their lives. They lived I believe in "Baxter" until they had to go to nursing homes in the mid-late 1970s. They lived near the entrance to the mines. They had several children: Walter Jackosn, who moved to the Dayton, Ohio area and my grandmother Millie Mae Jackson-Neff, who died in 1969. I need to know if possibe an exact address of Bob and Bess during the time they were alive. Any information about them or their relatives would be helpful. Bob may have been raised as an orphan? This was rumored but not sure if true. Thanks