This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Hammond, Scroggins, Whitford, Hicks, Van Meter Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/3AB.2ACI/6350.1 Message Board Post: Well, Vivian Moon here we are again, Whitford family is related to the Scroggins family, Lucinda Whitford married William H. Hammond lived with the Whitford family in Chicago Ill., worked in the family restraunt with the Charles Whitford family , Their daughter Fannie A. Hammond married William H.Scroggins. this is off a marrige certificate. The certificate also has Josiah Scroggins as Williams father,and Anna Hicks as his wife. Whitness Chas $croggins, Viola Cloyes. dated may 17,1894 If this rings a bell please call me at 1-209-7722945 Wanted Indian ties

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Howard Gibson Evans Harless Minton Grubb, and many more. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/3AB.2ACI/6144.1.1.1.1.2.1 Message Board Post: I would love to have a copy of the will and the pictures. Thanks Myrtle

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/3AB.2ACI/181.246.248.266.1 Message Board Post: Chadwell Hall had a daughter before he married Susan Nolan. My great-grandmother, Leah (Hall) Creech was his daughter with an Allie or Alabama or Alliebam Hamblin or Hamblen. I can't find any information on her, but there's an Alabama Hall with a son that would have been a couple of years older than Grandma so maybe that's her. I've never gotten a straight answer on whether or not they were actually married. I'm assuming they were since Leah was a Hall. Apparently when Chad married Susan, he had custody of or possession of my great-grandmother, because she told us that when she was small, she went to town with Chad, met a strange man that knelt down in front of her and asked her if she'd like to go home with him. Her father told her to go with him, and that's how she ended up being raised by Chadwell's sister Elizabeth Jane and her husband James. When Leah got married to Arthur Creech, her step-son, Whitley, met one of "Sude" (Susan) Shackelford's children, her daughter, Carla Etta, and they were married. (This used to confuse the heck out of me when I was a kid at family reunions! She was raised by Sude's parents, was Etta's cousin, but no, it was all right that Whitley married Etta- they weren't related!) Whitley and Etta lived most of their lives in Battle Creek Michigan. I also was able to take a picture of a portrait done of Chadwell Hall- at least that's who the note on the back of the picture says it is, and it was kept by Leah for most of her life, so I'm assuming it really is.. It's in pretty rough shape, but considering it's done on paper, and over a hundred years old, it's not bad! I think I may have tweaked it a bit in PhotoShop to get rid of a couple of tears and some water stains in the background. Anyway, here's the URL where I uploaded it. http://portfolio.iu.edu/jegreer/chadwell_hall.jpg If anyone has any information on Leah's mother, for sure how Chad died- again, I've heard rumors, but nothing confirmed!- I would really appreciate it.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/3AB.2ACI/6884.1.1.1.1 Message Board Post: Thanks for the info. I'm hoping to get in touch with a member of Onie's family. Larry

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/3AB.2ACI/6884.1.1.1 Message Board Post: According to the SS death index--Onie Gibson (born 31 Jan 1905) died in March 1970 and last address was given as Indianapolis Indiana--Janette

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/3AB.2ACI/2825.2 Message Board Post: Larry, I have some information on Laura and Dock.Including Laura's death certificate and some of the obits. Please email me at praxlis@gmail.com If intersted in the info Crystal

Hi! I use Family Tree Maker which allows you to 'privatize' a file. I'm not sure if all genealogy programs allow that, but think that many of them do. If you use FTM and need help doing it, email me and I'll be glad to help you. Phyllis -----Original Message----- From: Aneschke Smith [mailto:neschie2@yahoo.com] Sent: Tuesday, October 04, 2005 1:13 PM To: KYHARLAN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Genealogy Rip-offs Phyllis, how does one "privatize" Gedcoms before sharing? Thanks. "Neschie" On Oct 4, 2005, Phyllis wrote: "One other word of caution I might add is that if anyone shares their Gedcoms be sure to 'privatize' it before sharing unless you know the individualpersonally. Otherwise one day you'll find all your info on someone's website or CD. (I mean things like birth and marriage dates, parent's birth and marriage dates, etc.) That info can give someone enough information to help them steal your identity. Take care, Phyllis" __________________________________ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com ______________________________

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Lunsford Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/3AB.2ACI/2825.1 Message Board Post: I don't have much information about your grandparents but here is what I do have. Your grandmother (Laura Lunsford Vandergriff) is my great-grand-aunt. She is the sister of my great-grandmother Fama Anne Lunsford Lakes. Parents of Fama Anne and Laura Belle Lunsford are Isaac Newton Lunsford and Jane Scott (sometimes listed as SCOT). Laura Belle Lunsford was born September 16, 1886 in Kentucky (not Tennessee). Laura Belle Lunsford Vandergriff is listed in the 1920 census living in Manchester, Clay County, Kentucky. She is listed along with her husband, William Dock Vandergriff and seven children (Famie, Mary Jane, Minnie, Cynthia, Richard, Charlie and Lenard (that is the way its spelled on the census records). The family lived in a boarding house and William worked for the Clay County Coal Company. The Kentucky Birth Index 1911-1999 shows that Laura Lunsford Vandergriff had a child named George on September 20, 1932. Laura died on September 21, 1932 as a result of complications from the birth. Laura Belle's sister, Fama Anne Lunsford married Jakie Lakes. Fama and Jakie had several children including my grandfather Chester Lakes. I hope this helps.

Have (69) Lewis's in my file from Abner (1774) to Wilson (1793) need help in sorting them out; There are a lot of repeat names as in everyone's family; I believe a lot of the names are misspelled for instance (Serah or is it Sarah); Any help would be appreciated am willing to share with anyone who is interested; Walter

This is directed to Elva, or anyone else who has the Harlan Enterprise on microfilm. I have The Harlan Enterprise 1924-1925, and the 1908 Suppliment April 10, 1908 on microfilm. I know a few years ago, I transcribed some info off the 1924-25 reel. I am thinking of taking my films to the library to view them. Before I do, I'd like to know if anyone has already done this for these years. Also, I wondered if we could ask the list if anyone else has any of these microfilms, which years, and see if we can get some of this info transcribed. If these microfilms are no longer available, this info is very important to us researchers. Anne Do you know who killed my father? John B. SPRENTZ murdered 17 May 1983, ECORSE MI See my website for further details. http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Meadows/2651/Unsolvedmurder.html If you are a homicide victim survivor, please visit my message board for support. http://support4victims.proboards30.com/

Elva, and all you COLLETTs and SAYLORs: In the Harlan Co. Marriage Book, I see my g-grandparents, Samuel COLLETT and Patsy (Martha) Fultz. Just above, I see "A.B.COLLET married Addie Blanton; performed by N.H. Noe, M.G. 28 Jan 1895; location Henry Blantons; witnessed by Wilson B. Saylor; page 134/135; line 19." Do any of you know if A.B. COLLET's surname is misspelled? I am guessing that he is a "COLLETT" and is related to Samuel. Does anyone know? A.B. COLLETT is very interesting to me for two reasons: 1. He may be related to my Samuel. 2. His marriage was witnessed by Wilson B. SAYLOR. "Saylor" is probably a misspelling of "SALYERS" (my maiden name). My grandmother, Ruth Ann COLLETT, married Everett SALYERS. It looks like the Colletts and Salyers may have been good friends. I know many of my SALYERS lived in Grant Co., KY., but they migrated from VA. I'm wondering if they came to Grant Co. via Harlan Co. Thanks in advance for any help you can give. Karlene Salyers ______________________________________________________ Yahoo! for Good Donate to the Hurricane Katrina relief effort. http://store.yahoo.com/redcross-donate3/

Phyllis, how does one "privatize" Gedcoms before sharing? Thanks. "Neschie" On Oct 4, 2005, Phyllis wrote: "One other word of caution I might add is that if anyone shares their Gedcoms be sure to 'privatize' it before sharing unless you know the individualpersonally. Otherwise one day you'll find all your info on someone's website or CD. (I mean things like birth and marriage dates, parent's birth and marriage dates, etc.) That info can give someone enough information to help them steal your identity. Take care, Phyllis" __________________________________ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com

Elva, What you said is 100% true!! I, too, have found my info on other's information, being sold on companies CDs, etc. I'll gladly share what I have with others. I've gotten so much from other people's efforts that I try to do all I can to repay their generosity. Unfortunately there are bad people who love to rip people off. One other word of caution I might add is that if anyone shares their Gedcoms be sure to 'privatize' it before sharing unless you know the individual personally. Otherwise one day you'll find all your info on someone's website or CD. (I mean things like birth and marriage dates, parent's birth and marriage dates, etc.) That info can give someone enough information to help them steal your identity. Take care, Phyllis -----Original Message----- From: kiezza@AOL.COM [mailto:kiezza@AOL.COM] Sent: Monday, October 03, 2005 7:26 PM To: KYHARLAN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: What to do about genealogy ripoffs This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/3AB.2ACI/6890 Message Board Post: Cousins; many of you remember why I was given this Harlan, Ky board, mailing list and website back in 1999. So many of our members including myself were scammed out of money for genealogy materials, the checks were cashed, e-mails were never answered and no genealogy material was sent from this person to many of our members. This had gone on for years. Finally someone complained and it mushroomed into a large amount of money.We filed complaints with the Postal Authorties, Internet Fraud Dept and Rootsweb. So Darlene if u are a victim, complain, put their name out so others don't get scammed. Notify the postal authorties if they used the United States mail, notify the Internet Fraud Dept. When some post here selling something it is deleted immediately by Ancestry or by me. Then I get nasty letters, from these people or they post angry replys to this board. Some write private e-mails to our members asking for family data. I would stongly advise, don't order, don't give your family data to people that don't contribute to this board, or list. Beware of PO addresses, ask for thier phone number and call before you order. If they have a website, get what conditions they are posting your data under. What is their copyright notice, is it posted in plain view for you to read. Without a copyright notice, you may be giveing them permission to sell your family data. It pays to ask questions. Genealogy is a big business and your family data can wind up on a CD as it did a few years ago. I am very protective of this board, list and our website, I will go that extra mile to ensure free genealogy for each and every one of us. Researching Nolan, Brewer, Boggs, Bailey, Elva Nolan Morgan ______________________________

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Grace Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/3AB.2ACI/6891 Message Board Post: I did look on the 1920 Cen and you can too by going to the Harlan Co Web site they have the Census thru 1920 .. the only Grace listed there was a James Grace age 35 of WV with Wife Russa age 33Va they had these children Verna, Lora Pauline and a James b-1921 was born to Rousa Which i am sure is same as Russa but anyway her maiden name was Criggs this james born in 1921 after the 1920 Census ... But to really be sure you have right family you do need to Get your Grandparents Death Cert.. then you are going to know it right.. Darlene

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: johnson,parker,brown. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/3AB.2ACI/6890.1 Message Board Post: Thank you everyone for the response...Guess i need to stop wearing my heart on my sleeve.I have been searching for my grandfathers parents name for so long that i guess i was hoping the cd was real....I have gotten so far with my mothers side of tree and my fathers mothers side...I am at a stand still with my dads dad side....Thanks again! Darlene

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Nolan Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/3AB.2ACI/6886.2.1 Message Board Post: Here is the url addy http://www.rootsweb.com/~kyharlan/research.html Elva

Jim wrote: "Beware of folks not willing to post family info. on the board; we are here to share, not to play hide & seek. If you have info., share it; don't privately e-mail someone who could use your family line to make money for themselves. Jim" Jim is right! This is exactly why I no longer subscribe to any of the PAID genealogy sites. When a member, I posted all my family data that I had at the time. I'm sure lots of other people did the same thing. Since that time (several years ago), one company has now taken over the management of all the genealogy websites and we must now pay to access our own information (except for message boards, but who wants to wade thru those?). Others use our data to create books, which they turn around and sell. That's one more reason this list is SO IMPORTANT! "Neschie" __________________________________ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/3AB.2ACI/6886.2 Message Board Post: Elva, Where are these pictures posted??? I would love to see them. Thanks, Christopher Collett

Thank you Elva: I started to respond to Darlene's post but changed my mind. I knew when I read the original post that you would remove the sender from the list. I just wish that Darlene knew that advertising is prohibited on the mailing list. Go Darlene!!! Complain to everyone who will listen. I am just happy you only sent $6.00. It could have been much more. Corinne ----- Original Message ----- From: <kiezza@AOL.COM> To: <KYHARLAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, October 03, 2005 4:25 PM Subject: [KYHARLAN] What to do about genealogy ripoffs > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Classification: Query > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/3AB.2ACI/6890 > > Message Board Post: > > Cousins; many of you remember why I was given this Harlan, Ky board, > mailing list and website back in 1999. So many of our members including > myself were scammed out of money for genealogy materials, the checks were > cashed, e-mails were never answered and no genealogy material was sent > from this person to many of our members. This had gone on for years. > Finally someone complained and it mushroomed into a large amount of > money.We filed complaints with the Postal Authorties, Internet Fraud Dept > and Rootsweb. So Darlene if u are a victim, complain, put their name out > so others don't get scammed. Notify the postal authorties if they used the > United States mail, notify the Internet Fraud Dept. > When some post here selling something it is deleted immediately by > Ancestry or by me. > Then I get nasty letters, from these people or they post angry replys to > this board. Some write private e-mails to our members asking for family > data. I would stongly advise, don't order, don't give your family data to > people that don't contribute to this board, or list. Beware of PO > addresses, ask for thier phone number and call before you order. If they > have a website, get what conditions they are posting your data under. What > is their copyright notice, is it posted in plain view for you to read. > Without a copyright notice, you may be giveing them permission to sell > your family data. It pays to ask questions. > Genealogy is a big business and your family data can wind up on a CD as it > did a few years ago. I am very protective of this board, list and our > website, I will go that extra mile to ensure free genealogy for each and > every one of us. > Researching Nolan, Brewer, Boggs, Bailey, > > Elva Nolan Morgan > > > > > ==== KYHARLAN Mailing List ==== > Harlan Kentucky Website. > Harlan County Research: http://www.rootsweb.com/~kyharlan/ > Harlan County AHGP: http://www.ahgp.org/ > Harlan Kentucky ALHN: http://www.rootsweb.com/~kyharla2/ > >

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/3AB.2ACI/6890 Message Board Post: Cousins; many of you remember why I was given this Harlan, Ky board, mailing list and website back in 1999. So many of our members including myself were scammed out of money for genealogy materials, the checks were cashed, e-mails were never answered and no genealogy material was sent from this person to many of our members. This had gone on for years. Finally someone complained and it mushroomed into a large amount of money.We filed complaints with the Postal Authorties, Internet Fraud Dept and Rootsweb. So Darlene if u are a victim, complain, put their name out so others don't get scammed. Notify the postal authorties if they used the United States mail, notify the Internet Fraud Dept. When some post here selling something it is deleted immediately by Ancestry or by me. Then I get nasty letters, from these people or they post angry replys to this board. Some write private e-mails to our members asking for family data. I would stongly advise, don't order, don't give your family data to people that don't contribute to this board, or list. Beware of PO addresses, ask for thier phone number and call before you order. If they have a website, get what conditions they are posting your data under. What is their copyright notice, is it posted in plain view for you to read. Without a copyright notice, you may be giveing them permission to sell your family data. It pays to ask questions. Genealogy is a big business and your family data can wind up on a CD as it did a few years ago. I am very protective of this board, list and our website, I will go that extra mile to ensure free genealogy for each and every one of us. Researching Nolan, Brewer, Boggs, Bailey, Elva Nolan Morgan