The older one is Devil Jim Turner son of James Britain Turner and Elizabeth Clay. He spent some time in prison for killing someone. He married Sarah Jones. I think the second James is son of Mose A. Turner who is the son of John N. and Emily Jane Farley Turner. He married a Jenny D. All of these Turners were from Harlan County and moved to Lewis County, Washington in about 1900 or so. I didn't see any James married to a Mandy or Amanda in the Harlan County marriages or in my files. Barbara On Jan 12, 2008 7:02 AM, <[email protected]> wrote: > In a message dated 1/12/08 3:00:59 AM Eastern Standard Time, > [email protected] writes: > > > Turner, James 1894 01\29\1943 > > Turner, Jennie D. 1902 1970 with Mose A. Turner > > Turner, Jerry M. Sr. 11\25\1915 10\18\1985 U.S.Navy WW2 > > Turner, John N. 1869 1959 with Emily J. Turner > > Turner, Mattie 01\03\1897 12\09\1916 > > Turner, Mose 1877 1948 with Elizabeth Turner > > Turner, Mose A. 1893 1970 with Jennie D.Turner > > Turner, Richard 1923 1924 > > Turner, Richard M. 04\28\1923 10\14\1924 > > Turner, Sarah 1846 1928 with Hiram Turner > > Turner, Susie C. 07\07\1897 07\08\1869 > > Turner, William 1876 1952 > > Turner. James 08\15\1836 03\05\1910 > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > The two James Turners listed here is there any more info on them? I am > trying to find info on a James Turner that may have been married to a > Mandy or > Amanda in the late 1800's. Not sure of Mandys maiden name. But he may have > fathered a William and an Ernest. > Thanks Deb > > > Debbie > > > Nathan's Memory > http://www.angelfire.com/music/nathansmemory/index.html > > > A Group Of Friendship And Quilting > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Twigs_And_Berry_Blossom_Buddies/ > > > > > > ************** > Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. > > http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp00300000002489 > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: dfnapoli Surnames: Cole/Adams Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.kentucky.counties.harlan/14627/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I am looking for any descendant of a Charles Cole who married an Adams woman and lived in Harlan KY in 1964. The first name of the Adams woman could have been Glenna Louise born about 1917 in Illinois or her sister, Elizabeth Jane (called Betty Jean) born in Illinois about 1921. I got the name Charles Cole from the obituary of Glenna and Betty J's father, Roy E. Adams, who died in Harlan, KY in 1964. Any help would surely be appreciated.........dorothy Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

TOLEDO (Lewis City) CEMETERY, Lewis County, WA FIR LAWN CEMETERY, Toledo Turner, Alexander 12\17\1888 10\08\1905 Turner, Charlott L. 1894 1979 with Hiram B.Turner Turner, Curtis 06\15\1902 10\05\1966 Turner, Elizabeth 1885 1964 with Mose Turner Turner, Ellen M. 1903 ---- with George Dewey Turner Turner, Emily J. 1870 1932 with John N. Turner Turner, George Dewey 1899 1985 with Ellen M. Turner Turner, Harrison 08\06\1892 04\02\1921 Turner, Hiram 1954 1929 with Sarah Truner Turner, Hiram B. 1890 1953 with Charlott L.Turner Turner, James 1894 01\29\1943 Turner, Jennie D. 1902 1970 with Mose A. Turner Turner, Jerry M. Sr. 11\25\1915 10\18\1985 U.S.Navy WW2 Turner, John N. 1869 1959 with Emily J. Turner Turner, Mattie 01\03\1897 12\09\1916 Turner, Mose 1877 1948 with Elizabeth Turner Turner, Mose A. 1893 1970 with Jennie D.Turner Turner, Richard 1923 1924 Turner, Richard M. 04\28\1923 10\14\1924 Turner, Sarah 1846 1928 with Hiram Turner Turner, Susie C. 07\07\1897 07\08\1869 Turner, William 1876 1952 Turner. James 08\15\1836 03\05\1910

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: mabeone Surnames: Lewis, Geyer, Williams, Beck, West, Classification: obituary Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.kentucky.counties.harlan/14626/mb.ashx Message Board Post: KING - Ms. Evelyn Lewis Geyer, 78, passed away Friday, Jan. 4, 2008, at Forsyth Medical Center. She was born June 16, 1929, in Harland County, Ky., to the late Walter Lewis and Emily Williams Lewis. Ms. Geyer was a member of Freedom Baptist Church and was a greeter at Wal-Mart in Naples for 12 years. In addition to her parents, Ms. Geyer was preceded in death by a sister, Nadine Beck. Surviving are two sons, Russell (Cindy) Geyer of King and Walt (Jenny) West of Indiana; three grandchildren, Jana West, Kaitlyn Geyer and Brittany Geyer; and a brother, Chris Lewis. A private committal will be held in Harland, Ky. Hayworth-Miller Rural Hall is serving the Geyer family. Published in the Winston-Salem Journal on 1/6/2008 Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: KandyBackAgee Surnames: Browning, Blanton, Thomas Classification: obituary Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.kentucky.counties.harlan/14625/mb.ashx Message Board Post: NOTE: I DO NOT KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THIS INDIVIDUAL. JUST POSTING THE OBITUARY ON NAN THOMAS FROM THE DAYTON (OH) DAILY NEWS 1/10/08 Nan Browning Thomas, age 68, a resident of Miamisburg, OH passed away peacefully on January 8, 2008 at her residence. Nan was born in Harlan County, KY on July 7, 1939 to the late Mike and Mary Jane (Blanton) Browning. In addition to her parents, she is preceded in death by her husband, Curtis R. Thomas on December 15, 2007 and her son, Curtis Lee Thomas in 1983. She is survived by a son, Michael (Trudy) Thomas of Xenia, OH; a daughter, Rita (John) Crothers of Miamisburg, OH; a brother, John Browning of VA; a sister, Estelle Bunch of Dayton, OH; 5 grandchildren, Ryan (Jennie) Thomas, Jace Thomas, Sarah Babish, Heather and Rachael Thomas; a great-granddaughter, Jayleigh and by many nieces and nephews. Nan had retired from Kroger after 20 years of service and had also worked at Dorothy Lane Market. Funeral services will be held at 1 PM January 11, 2008 from the GEBHART-SCHMIDT-PARRAMORE FUNERAL HOME, Miamisburg. Pastor Michael Thomas officiating. Burial Highland Memorial Cemet! ery. Friends may call at the funeral home on January 11, 2008 from 11:30 AM until time of service. If desired, contributions may be made in Nan's memory to the Miamisburg Schools Education Foundation, P.O. Box 464, Miamisburg, OH 45343. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: DarrellCarnahan28 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.kentucky.counties.harlan/14528.3.1.2.1.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hey...forgot to mention I'm changing my files to go with "abt 1861" on the date of birthand Narcissus E Ball as the mom. sorry I forgot to mention that. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: DarrellCarnahan28 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.kentucky.counties.harlan/14528.3.1.2.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi Joyce! Sorry...I missed that. Yes, I try and stay off the board...get in to much trouble...LOL. I am going to be posting a few queries in the near future...hope you can help me on those...! I'm doing pretty well. Stay pretty busy. Hope you are doing well and pray the Lord Blesses you and yours during this New Year! Thanks as always! Darrell Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: joycecollins Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.kentucky.counties.harlan/14528.3.1.2.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hello, Darrell, Please look at my January 3 response (think that is the correct one). This is where I type out the information contained on her actual death cert as posted by Ancestry.com. That death cert gives her birth date as 1861. Now I would be the first to say that dates of birth on census and on various documents can be off one way or the other. However, combined with the fact she doesn't even show up in the spring of 1860 when the census was taken fairly clearly shows she was born either in 1861 or in the latter part of the year 1860 after the census for 1860 was concluded. Personally I just think the 1858 date is inaccurate and I have no idea where it came from or what documentation anyone has for it. Even besides all of that, her mother is listed as a BALL and not a BAILEY on her death cert. I'm just stating this next from memory but I believe the 2nd marriage took place in 1859 so it does seem logical that the birth would have been in either 1860 or 1861. Haven't talked with you in a while. Hope all is well and that you are having a happy and healthy New Year. Joyce Taylor Collins La Palma, CA Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: DarrellCarnahan28 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.kentucky.counties.harlan/14528.3.1.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Joyce, If the date of birth of Ellender Jane Smith of 24 May 1858 is correct and with Virginia jane Bailey's death in 1858, (assuming these are correct dates), is it not possible that Virginia died during or shortly after the birth of Ellender? Of course, if her birth is correct in 1858, why she wasn't on the 1860 census is curious. I just propose this as a possibility. Not saying it's correct as I don't know for sure. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: joycecollins Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.kentucky.counties.harlan/14624.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hello, I should have been more clear with what I said. Would you write directly to me at: [email protected] I am not able to access your full e-mail address and there were a couple of things I observed when researching this family I wanted to share with you. There are any number of Fred NAPIERs out there with several of them born around the same time. Some I was able to simply rule out. Anyway, I wanted to tell you about some things I observed and to give you the death cert for you to download. Joyce Taylor Collins La Palma, CA Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: TOMABSHER727 Surnames: Napier Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.kentucky.counties.harlan/14624.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Joyce I have Fred H. death 1950, Verda and buried it the Turner cemetery. I would appreciate a copy of death cert. Thank you very much, Tom Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: joycecollins Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.kentucky.counties.harlan/14624.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hello, On the "assumption" this is YOUR Fred H. NAPIER and on the assumption the parents named are truly his parents, there is a death cert at Verda, Harlan Co., KY dated 1-28-1950. This Fred NAPIER was born: March 12, 1879 in Harlan Co., KY. Parents listed: Robert NAPIER and Elizabeth KING. Occup: carpenter. Cause of death: cerebral hemmorhage with other complicating heart disease problems. Buried: Turner Cem. on 2-2-1950. Informant: Mrs. Rebecca BLEVINS. If you would like to have a copy of the death cert, I am able to send it to you. Joyce Taylor Collins La Palma, CA p.s. I am unable to see these folks in the 1880 Harlan Co. Fed. Census. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

I don't know if there are any Harlan County Marriage Records this early, but can someone look for Sampson H. Wilder son of Joseph and Nancy born about 1793 in Harlan County, Kentucky and Ann Estepp born about 1793 in NC. Her parents could be John Estepp and Mary Asher. They would have married about 1820 in Harlan County, KY. We are trying to prove that she is either Ann Estepp or Ann Uptin as we have Fuson's history that says Estep and a death record for her daugher Mary Wilder Miracle that says Ann Uptin. Thanks for any help. Barbara Turner

I decend from Stephen Lee and Joicy Napier also... Carol Barker/Hall in Harlan Co., Ky. [email protected] ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, January 05, 2008 8:30 PM Subject: Re: [KYHARLAN] Ambrose Taylor b. @1825 in Kentucky > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Author: called2serve > Surnames: Taylor, Lee, Napier > Classification: queries > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.kentucky.counties.harlan/14617.1/mb.ashx > > Message Board Post: > > I do not have any direct information on Ambrose Taylor, but I am a > descendent of Stephen and Joicy Napier Lee. Two of their daughters, > Rachel Lee Shackleford and Elizabeth Lee Smith, are buried in Rose Hill, > VA. Perhaps the Lee County, VA census records would be helpful. > > Important Note: > The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you > would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link > above and respond on the board. > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: TOMABSHER727 Surnames: Napier, Absher Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.kentucky.counties.harlan/14624/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Looking for the parents of Fred H. Napier,I find and his family in in the 1900 Harlan census but nothing prior to that. Thank you. Tom Absher Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: called2serve Surnames: Taylor, Lee, Napier Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.kentucky.counties.harlan/14617.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I do not have any direct information on Ambrose Taylor, but I am a descendent of Stephen and Joicy Napier Lee. Two of their daughters, Rachel Lee Shackleford and Elizabeth Lee Smith, are buried in Rose Hill, VA. Perhaps the Lee County, VA census records would be helpful. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: JohnAshurst Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.kentucky.counties.harlan/14528.3.1.1.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Is there any evidence of Hugh H. Smith's family being of Irish origin? Is there any knowledge of his parents and their ancestry? You have spurred me on to renew my investigations. Thank you. John [email protected] Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: barbturner55 Surnames: Shelby,Jackson Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.kentucky.counties.harlan/14623.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I found a death certificate for her. I will e-mail it to you. Her father is Bob Jackson, mother is Mattie Durham. They don't have her obit on Ancestry.com. Do you have any idea who Bob Jackson's parents are? Barbara Turner Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: MarkWNeice Surnames: SHELBY Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.kentucky.counties.harlan/14623/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I am wondering if someone could look-up an obit for Era SHELBY d. 27 Aug 1933 Harlan, Harlan, KY. If there is a marriage application for her and Henry Shelby that would be great also. They were married about 1915 and her maiden name is Jackson. Thank you. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Joyce Thank you for your reply. I have extensive info on Roscoe Botts and on his second wife Bertha Thomas. but altho I have the birthdate, deathdate, and cemetary where Rosie Jeffers or Jeffires is buried at Egan , Tn., I have been unable to obtain a birth certificate, death certificate or marriage record for her and roscoe. Not knowing the exact spelling of the last name nor any family info other than she had two brothers Sam and Bill one of which died in Harlan circa 1929 or 1930 makes it so hard to recognize info even when I find it without some clear connecting link. I've searched census records to try and fird them in a general dwelling proximity, so far without success. Her short life and the scarecity of records prior to 1915 ,makes it more difficult to find records Thank You and God Bless You for your help. ----- Original Message ----- From: [email protected] To: [email protected] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2008 2:01 PM Subject: Re: [KYHARLAN] Fw: Jeffers, Botts RESPONSE: On the 1910 Campbell Co., TN (near Anderson Co., TN) there is an Alfred BATTS (corrected to BOTTS) Dwelling 97-101 with: BATTS, Alfred, 47, mar. 11 yrs, head, b. TN . .Betty, 33, mar. 11 yrs, 3 born; 2 living, b. TN . .Roscoe, 18, single, son, b. TN (appears to be your Roscoe as of 1910)* * . .Manda, 17, dau, b. TN . .Johnny, 10, son,b. TN . .Alfred, 7, son, b. TN NOTE: Alfred must have had an earlier marriage with someone else who is the mother of Roscoe and Manda. As of the 1900 , there is a Charles JEFFERS, age 36 living in nearby to Campbell Co., TN: Dwelling 43-54 JEFFERS, Charles, 36, b. TN . .Margrett, 22, mar. 9 yrs, b. TN . .James W., son, 6, b. TN . .Rosie J., 4, dau, b. TN * * . .Samuel, 0 yrs, son, b. TN * * Then as you have already found on the 1910 Bell Co. at Hignite: Dwelling 207 SMITH, William C., mar 2 times, head, 29, b. TN; parents b. TN - coal miner . .Nancy Jane, wife, 25, mar. 2 times, mar. "looks like 11 months or 11/12, b. TN; parents b. TN SMITH, Asberry, 71, b. TN; parents b. TN - father JEFFERS, Rose Jane, 15, adopted daughter, b. TN* * JEFFERS, Samuel, 13, adopted son, b. TN * * NOTE: It sure does appear that something very serious occurred to both Charles and Margrett JEFFERS at some point after the 1900 and prior to the 1910 that would have caused their children to be adopted by this rather young William C. SMITH also from TN and newly married. Usually there is ALWAYS some family connection. I have wondered if Nancy Jane could have been a sister to Charles JEFFERS. I see your g-grandfather on the 1930 or 1920 (forget which) and he is back in Campbell Co., TN with his second wife, Bertha and a bunch of children. You probably would find some marriages for these folks in either Campbell or Anderson Co.'s. Joyce Taylor Collins La Palma, CA In a message dated 1/3/2008 8:50:55 PM Pacific Standard Time, [email protected] writes: > Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2008 9:48 PM > Subject: Jeffers, Botts > > > I desperately need help trying to identify my great grandmother.My great > grandfather Roscoe Botts 6-22-1889 died 1967) married a Rosie (Jeffers- > Jeffires) born 3-18-1891 died 1-19-1915, unsure about the spelling of the last > name. They married around 1910 or 1911 and don't appear on any census record > together that i can find. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message