This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: tbnglobal Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.kentucky.counties.harlan/14583.1.1.1.2.1.2.1.2.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Julie, What does your branch look like? We have found out the following regarding Minnie's line through Joyce Collins' research: As of the 1900 Census, Newton County, Arkansas - Pleasant Hill Township: Dwelling 125-132 METCALF, James, age 35, born March 1865; married 16 years; born in Kentucky; his father born in North Carolina; mother born in Kentucky; occupation - Farmer Flora, age 35, wife, born March 1868, married 16 years, children born is 4; only 2 children living; she was born in Kentucky; her parents born in Kentucky .....Arminta J., age 12, daughter, born March 1889, born in Kentucky .....William H., age 9, born March 1891, born in Arkansas Note: This would mean they left KY after the birth of Arminta J. in March 1889. They were in Arkansas at the bith of William H. who was born in March 1891. (Joyce states that there were NO 1890 Federal Cencus to view) Joyce was also able to locate where Isom Noe and Armania were in the 1910 Bell County at the ages of 26 and 24, and had been married 1 year, and had a son named Elijah and he was 4 months old. Isom and Minnie, ages 48 and 44 are found in the Harlan County Kentucky Census of 1930. Here's some more information on our great-grandmother Flora (not Fiona) that we found. >From the 1870 Harlan County KY Census: Dwelling 23-23 CREECH, Daniel B., 30, born KY, (son of Thomas and Celia HARRISON CREECH; married (2) Cordelia BREWER, daughter of Jeremiah and Mary BLEVINS BREWER; 1st marriage in Harlan Co. in 1857 Nancy, 28, wife, born in North Carolina; daughter of Barbara METCALF ....Selah, 12, daughter, born KY; born on March 28, 1858 (per HC VS's; marriage recorded in 1875 in Harlan Co. to James TURNER ....Florry, 8, daughter, born KY; (sometimes this can be short for Florence) ....Mary, 6, born in KY ....William,4, born in KY Then Joyce found the following in the same Census info on James Metcalf and Anna. Dwelling 24-24 METCALF, James, 31, born in North Carolina (son of Barbara Metcalf; married 1857 in Harlan County). Anna, 31, born KY (Daughter of Thomas Creech) ....Ruthie, 12, daughter, born in KY on July 22, 1858 (per Harlan Vital Stats; died Dec. 20, 1941; married Moses Brewer who is the son of Jeremiah and Mary Blevins Brewer. ....John, 10, born KY; married in 1890 to Sarah Jane Creech in Harlan Co. ....Sarah, 8, born in KY We learned some things about Minnie that we didn't know a few days ago. We have found her names to change from Armania, Armina, Armintia, Minta, Minnie, Nannie, and Mam. She was married 4 times and here's who they were: 1st marriage was to William S. Smith and they were married in James Metcalf's house on August 13, 1902. 2nd marriage was to Will Madden (unsure of date of marriage/divorce), but Minnie's 1st child was born named Ellen (called Ella in the Census). 3rd marriage was to Isom Noe sometime in 1908 or 1909, because they show up in the 1910 Harlan Co. Census having been married for 1 year.) 4th marriage was to William Thomas Liles. Mr. Liles is also my husband's grandfather on this mother's side. So his dad's mom (Minnie), was married to his mother's dad, Tom. Joyce found in the 1910 Harlan Co., Little Laurel Dwelling 119 CREECH, Flory, 41, divorced, born KY; parents born KY (returned to her maiden name)[remember she married James Metcalf] ....METCALF, Willie, son, age 16, single, born in KY (but this is wrong because he was born in Arkansas on March 1891) ....MADDEN, Ella, granddaughter, age 4 (Armintia/Minnie's child with Mr. Madden) We are beginning to piece together our relatives. These are the children as we have found them: ....Ellen (Ella) Madden, born June 28, 1905 (went by Noe) born to Will Madden and Minnie Metcalf Smith Madden The Following are Children by Isom and Minnie: ....Elijah, born December 4, 1909 ....William Henry, born December 30, 1911 ....James Frank, born August 19, 1913 ....Oscar, born December 3, 1915 ....Dora, born January 18, 1918 ....Robert, born March 27, 1920 ....Dewey, born July 20, 1922 ....Berrie (Berry), born March 17, 1924 ....Isom II, born June 6, 1926 (possibly died at birth or a little after) ....Lucy May, born May 8, 1927 (died as a toddler or a little after) ....Birthie (Bertha), born August 2, 1928 ....David, born September 4, 1931 [all these birthdates were given to me (Teresa B. Noe) by Ann Noe (wife to David Noe), which she read out of Minnie's bible] Most of these Noe children, and Ellen are buried in the Oliver Springs Cemetery. Regarding ISOM NOE: His father was WIlliam Noe and mother was Anna Harris. We have their wedding certificate dated July 2, 1880. We know that she later married a Carlow (Carlo) Short and was widowed when the 1910 Census was taken and reads as follows: Dwelling 97-2-2 SHORT, Robert, age 16, Head of House, born in KY, occupation: Farmer Annie (Anna), widow, mother; 10 children born, 5 Living; born in KY ....Dora, age 12, sister, born in KY ....Bessie, age 9, sister, born in KY ....George, age 8, brother, born in KY Edwards, Raymond, age 2, nephew, born in KY (unsure of parents) NOE, Isom, age 26, Boarder, 1st marriage, married 1 year, born in KY; parrents born in KY; occupation - coal miner Armania (Minnie), age 24, Boarder, 1st marriage, married 1 year, born in KY; parents born in KY ....Elijah, age 4 months, son, born 12-4-1904; born in KY Isom Noe had these half-brothers/sisters, but we haven't confirmed if he has other siblings. Note that with Annie Short's information line, she states that she has had 10 children, but only five living. This would confirm that Isom, Robert, Dora, Bessie, and George are her only surviving children. I don't know of any other names. If anyone can give us some more information we'd appreciate it. We are in the process of putting what we've found in our Family Tree Maker. Thanks everyone -- Terea Bunch Noe (daughter-in-law of William "Bill" Henry Noe) Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Thats who I have his parents as, with wife as Mary Ellen Mitchell Roxie.... On Feb 1, 2008 7:12 PM, Barbara Carlile <[email protected]> wrote: > does anyone know if this Cecil Lewis is S/O Roscoe and Pearlie Dixon Lewis > > Barbara in OK > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Friday, February 01, 2008 5:41 PM > Subject: [KYHARLAN] OBIT Linda Lewis Bowling 1950-2008 > > > > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > > > Author: KandyBackAgee > > Surnames: Lewis, Bowling > > Classification: obituary > > > > Message Board URL: > > > > > > http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.kentucky.counties.harlan/14651/mb.ashx > > > > Message Board Post: > > > > NOTE: I DO NOT KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THIS INDIVIDUAL. JUST POSTING THE > OBITUARY ON LINDA BOWLING FROM THE HAMILTON (OH) JOURNAL-NEWS 2/1/08 > > > > Linda G. (Lewis) Bowling, age 57, of Oxford, OH passed away on January > 29, > 2008 at her residence. Linda was born September 29, 1950, in Lynch, KY. > She > was the daughter of Cecil and Mary Ellen Lewis. Linda recently retired > from > Square D with 34 years of service. Since retirement, she has enjoyed > spending time with friends and family, babysitting great grandchildren and > her dog Cricket, cooking, reading the Bible, gardening and was an active > member of the Oxford Pentecostal Church. She is survived by her loving > husband, Robert; son and daughter-in-law, Gaston and Isabella, daughter > and > son-in-law Gladys and Albert (Philips) and daughter-in-law Marlene > Bowling, > all of Oxford, OH. She is also survived by a brother James (Doris) Lewis > of > Liberty, IN; nephews, James David Lewis, D.J. (Meriah) Price and Jonathan > Price, many great nieces, nephews, aunts, grandchildren, great > grandchildren, great-great grandchildren and beloved friends. She was > preceded in death by her parents, her s! > > tep-father, Paul Hall and brothers-in-law Cletus Bowling and Aster > Bowling. Visitation will be held at the Smith & Ogle Funeral Home, 5086 > College Corner Pike, on February 3, 2008 from 4:00-7:00pm. Funeral > services > are to begin at 10:30 am at the Oxford Pentecostal Church, 3586 > Oxford-Millville Rd., on February 4, 2008. Following the funeral services > the burial service will be held at the Oxford Cemetery. Condolences may be > made at www.smithoglefuneralhome.com > > > > Important Note: > > The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you > would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link > above and respond on the board. > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- Let your light shine brightly today and every day. It just might light a pathway for someone lost in the darkness. =============================== Christian Milkshake: Pressed down, shaken together and more than we can hope for

does anyone know if this Cecil Lewis is S/O Roscoe and Pearlie Dixon Lewis Barbara in OK ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, February 01, 2008 5:41 PM Subject: [KYHARLAN] OBIT Linda Lewis Bowling 1950-2008 > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Author: KandyBackAgee > Surnames: Lewis, Bowling > Classification: obituary > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.kentucky.counties.harlan/14651/mb.ashx > > Message Board Post: > > NOTE: I DO NOT KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THIS INDIVIDUAL. JUST POSTING THE OBITUARY ON LINDA BOWLING FROM THE HAMILTON (OH) JOURNAL-NEWS 2/1/08 > > Linda G. (Lewis) Bowling, age 57, of Oxford, OH passed away on January 29, 2008 at her residence. Linda was born September 29, 1950, in Lynch, KY. She was the daughter of Cecil and Mary Ellen Lewis. Linda recently retired from Square D with 34 years of service. Since retirement, she has enjoyed spending time with friends and family, babysitting great grandchildren and her dog Cricket, cooking, reading the Bible, gardening and was an active member of the Oxford Pentecostal Church. She is survived by her loving husband, Robert; son and daughter-in-law, Gaston and Isabella, daughter and son-in-law Gladys and Albert (Philips) and daughter-in-law Marlene Bowling, all of Oxford, OH. She is also survived by a brother James (Doris) Lewis of Liberty, IN; nephews, James David Lewis, D.J. (Meriah) Price and Jonathan Price, many great nieces, nephews, aunts, grandchildren, great grandchildren, great-great grandchildren and beloved friends. She was preceded in death by her parents, her s! > tep-father, Paul Hall and brothers-in-law Cletus Bowling and Aster Bowling. Visitation will be held at the Smith & Ogle Funeral Home, 5086 College Corner Pike, on February 3, 2008 from 4:00-7:00pm. Funeral services are to begin at 10:30 am at the Oxford Pentecostal Church, 3586 Oxford-Millville Rd., on February 4, 2008. Following the funeral services the burial service will be held at the Oxford Cemetery. Condolences may be made at www.smithoglefuneralhome.com > > Important Note: > The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: JULIETHOMAS23 Surnames: creech Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.kentucky.counties.harlan/14583.1.1.1.2.1.2.1.2.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I think my mom has minnies mothers name down as Annie in her her bible. But then Uncle Jim Noe told my sister her name was Fiona Creech. We have not been able to find anything on a Fiona Creech but we did find a Flora Creech married to a James Metcalf. Se we are not sure. Were did you find the marriage cert. any help would be great. thanks Julie Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: joycecollins Surnames: CREECH Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.kentucky.counties.harlan/14648.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Janette, Thanks so much for that correction. I appreciate it. Joyce Taylor Collins La Palma, CA Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Janette_Nolan Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.kentucky.counties.harlan/14650.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I have Nannie as the d/o George and Fanny (Hensley) Howard. Elbert Lewis died 27 June 1941 and is buried in the Putney Church cem at Putney. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Janette_Nolan Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.kentucky.counties.harlan/14648.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: You have the wrong death date for Clarence Creech. (you have 1980) The Clarence Creech who died in 15 Aug 1980 was the s/o Joseph Alexander and Hannah (Cornett) Creech. He is buried in the Resthaven Cem. Clarence Creech who was the s/o Hiram and Cassie (Lewis) Creech is buried in the same cemetery at Putney with his parents. Cem has 2 Aug 1910--20 Feb 1936) Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: joycecollins Surnames: CREECH Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.kentucky.counties.harlan/14648.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hello, Daniel Boone CREECH was b. May 1840 in Harlan Co., KY; d. 7 Mar 1923. He mar. (1) 29 Jan 1857 to Nancy METCALF. He married (2) Mar 4 1876 to Cordelia Catherine BREWER, dau. of Jeremiah BREWER. Cordelia was b. Mar 1855. And, he marr. (3) 23 Jan 1908 to Elizabeth BEGLEY. There were a large number of children I have born from the first two wifes. Hiram shows up as born abt. May 1877 per the research of Lillian BROUGHTON CREECH in her "CREECH Lineage" book. However, he is a 5 year old on the 1880 Fed. Census. On the 1880 Harlan Co. Fed. Census: Dwelling 57-63 CREECH, Daniel, 44, b. KY; parents b. KY . . Dily, 35, b. KY; parents b. KY (apparently a shortened version of Cordelia)(mar. Mar 4, 1876) . .Lavinia, 7, b. KY . .Hiram, 5, b. KY * * . .Enock, 8, b. KY . .Eligher, 1, b. KY On the 1900 Harlan Co., census: Dwelling 1211-1220 CREECH, Daniel, 60, b. May 1840 . . Cordelia, 45, b. Mar 1855 . .Hiram, 23, b. Mar 1877 * * . .Louisa, 19, b. Jun 1880 . ._____?, 17, son, b. Sep 1882 . . Sally, 15, b. Apr 1885 . .Isabell, 13, b. Jun 1886 . .Elizabeth, 9, b. Aug 1890 . .Henry, 7, b. Mar 1893 . .Judie, 5, b. Mar 1895 The transcription on the 1910 harlan Co. census book I have is REALLY garbled; however, this would appear to be Hiram: Dwelling 55 CREECH, Harmon T., 30,mar 1, mar. 4 yrs b. kY; parents b. KY . .Cassie, wife, 24, mar. 1, mar. 4 yrs, 2 born; 2 living, b. kY; parents b. KY . . Hage, son, 2, b. kY (I assume this is Hayes) . .Victoria, dau, 1, b. KY On the 1930 Harlan census: Dwelling 115-114 CREECH, Cassie, 42, "widow", b. KY . .Haze, 22, son, b. KY - sawmill laborer . .Victory, 21, dau, KY - boarding house . . Clarence, 19, son, b. KY - lumberyard labor (died 8-1980 in HC KY) . .Grace, 18, dau, b. KY . .Murph, 15,son, KY; railroad laborer (died of GSW on 11-17-1940) . .Edna, 10, dau, b. KY . .Thelma, 7, dau, b. KY (prob. her husband, Hiram, died around 1923 - give or take.) On Hayes CREECH death cert, he died in Harlan Co. on 9-7-1932 when he was 24 yrs and some months old. His parents were listed as: Hiram CREECH and Cassie LEWIS. Mrs. Cassie CREECH was the informant. Cause of death was: endocarditis and secondary to abcessed teeth. Hope some of this information is helpful. Joyce Taylor Collins La Palma, CA Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: GREENBRIER08 Surnames: Lewis, Howard Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.kentucky.counties.harlan/14650/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I am trying to find the parents of Nannie Howard who married Elbert Lewis in 1918 in Harlan County. She was born about 1901. I found a possible fit with George & Fanny Howard, but am not sure. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: GREENBRIER08 Surnames: Lewis, Turner Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.kentucky.counties.harlan/14649/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I am looking for the parents of Silas Turner who married Martha Ellen Lewis in 1913 in Harlan County. He was born about 1892. Martha was the daughter of Abner Crit Lewis & Mary Cornett. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: GREENBRIER08 Surnames: Lewis, Creech Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.kentucky.counties.harlan/14648/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I am trying to find the parents of Hiram Creech who married Cassie Lewis in 1905 in Harlan County. I believe he was the son of Daniel & Cordelia Brewer Creech but am not sure. He passed away between 1920 & 1930, but I can not find a death certificate listed for him. Thanks in advance for any help. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: schoolmama Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.kentucky.counties.harlan/14647/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Thanks to Carl Estes, who sent me this fantastic Url. Harlan County USA.The Movie. You can also download it into your favorite Media player. Click on screen, will make it full screen. Gives a view into our Harlan, Ky families, working conditions and why they fought for higher wages and better working conditions.You may see some of your relatives if they lived in Harlan, during the early 70s.The film is about the Brookside strike, that gained national attention. Surnames,Rainey Jones to many to list, the names are in the credits. This won an accademy award for best documentary. http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article13730.htm Thanks Elva Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Thanks for sharing ... Oh Harlan Co People had it so tough..The Music really told the hurt they felt. Darlene ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2008 8:22 AM Subject: [KYHARLAN] Harlan County USA Movie On Line > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Author: schoolmama > Surnames: > Classification: queries > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.kentucky.counties.harlan/14647/mb.ashx > > Message Board Post: > > Thanks to Carl Estes, who sent me this fantastic Url. > Harlan County USA.The Movie. > > You can also download it into your favorite Media player. > Click on screen, will make it full screen. > Gives a view into our Harlan, Ky families, working conditions and why they fought for higher wages and better working conditions.You may see some of your relatives if they lived in Harlan, during the early 70s.The film is about the Brookside strike, that gained national attention. > Surnames,Rainey Jones to many to list, the names are in the credits. > This won an accademy award for best documentary. > > http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article13730.htm > Thanks > Elva > > Important Note: > The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: tbnglobal Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.kentucky.counties.harlan/14583.1.1.1.2.1.2.1.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: My husband is the youngest son of William Henry Noe and Anna Mae Liles Noe. My father-in-law was called Bill and he was the son of Isom and Armina "Minnie" Noe. We have found the following on Minnie. She was married 4 times, the 1st being on August 13, 1902 to William M. Smith. They were married at Minnie's father's (James Metcalf) house in Harlan Kentucky. Her 2nd husband was a Wil Madden (Maden??) and is the father of her oldest child, Ellen (who was born June 28, 1905, according to Minnie's Bible entry). Then she married Isom Noe in 1909 (according to the 1910 census they had only been married 1 year, and at that time Elijah was only 4 months old). Her 4th husband was William Thomas Liles. Isom and Minnie had the following children together: Elijah, William, James, Oscar, Dora, Robert, Dewey, Berry, a son Isom II, Lucy May, Bertha, and David. Isom apparently died at birth or soon after. Lucy May died as a baby or toddler. Minnie has been noted to have gone by several names (nicknames) which started in this order: Armania, Minta, Minnie, Nannie, Armina, and Mam. The name Mam was given to her by her last husband, William Thomas Liles (they had no children together). Mr. Liles is also my husband's grandfather on his mother Anna Mae's side-of-the-family. So sometime after Minnie left Harlan with her children, she met and later married Tom Liles. They lived in Morgan County, Oliver Springs, TN. She is buried at the Oliver Springs Cemetery where many of her children (Ellen, Bill, James, Oscar, Berry)are also buried. We have been having trouble with getting the right timeframe for Isom's birthdate. It is varying from census to bible entries between 5 to 10 years. He birthdate according to the Minnie's bible is March 30, 1884. The 1910 Census gives his age of 26. His obit states that he was 61 years old when he died on Feb. 14, 1947. He is buried in Harlan County. Regarding the Metcalf/Creech Info: We found a marriage certificate dated March 8, 1857 where a James Metcalf married an Annie Creech. Do you think our information on your Metcalf/Creech marriage is the same and the names of the women are mistyped. Yours is "Amy" and ours is "Annie." Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: barbturner55 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.kentucky.counties.harlan/14646.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I wonder if it would be of any benefit to check with the funeral homes there unless you know for sure she was buried by family. Barbara Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: mikef333 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.kentucky.counties.harlan/14646.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Since 1911, there has in fact been a law continuously that mandates death certificates. But apparently the onus was on the physician or funeral home to generate it. So for that time there "should" be death certs for your ancestors, just as there "should" be for mine as well. But there are many examples where that is not the case. Again I would try for an obituary. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: pengelmann48 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.kentucky.counties.harlan/14646.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Thanks for this information. I was hoping that by the 1920s there would be mandatory death certificates. It puzzles me that Henry would have reported his daughters death in 1921 but not his wife's death. Perhaps he was overcome with his grief and there was no one else to do so. Thanks again. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: mikef333 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.kentucky.counties.harlan/14646.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I have a couple ancestors who died in Harlan Co in the mid 1920s and have found no death certificates for them either. I think the most likely explanation for these situations is one where there was no attending physician, and also the family took care of the burials themselves without a funeral home. Thus without either a doctor or funeral home to generate a death certificate, none was generated. As to obituaries, the Harlan Enterprise is extant on microfilm at the UK libraries for those years, and you can order the microfilms via interlibrary loan according to their newspaper website which can be found here: http://lib.uky.edu/repro/ So there likely are not any death certs to be found, and your last likely source is that newspaper. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: pengelmann48 Surnames: Fields, Craft Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.kentucky.counties.harlan/14646/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Searching for Malinda (aka Linda, Linnie, Lynnie) Fields (Craft) death certificate/obituary. According to her husband Henry's obituary she died on May 14 1925. I have not been able to find a death certificate for her in the State of Kentucky. In 1921 she was living with the family in Benham, Harlan County, Kentucky where Henry worked as a coke boss for the mine. There is documentation for that date with a death certificate for her child Pansy that died that year. In 1930 Henry and his sons were living in Whitesburg. It appears from Henry's obituary that there was a son named Mudget that died prior to Henry's death, but after the 1920 census and I don't find a death certificate with that name either. If anyone has any ideas about where to look next I would greatly appreciate it. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

I don't want to sound negative, but I have not found very many obituaries either. I have found some death notices though. Lots of people couldn't afford an obituary. Barbara On Jan 29, 2008 1:11 PM, [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote: > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Author: mikef333 > Surnames: > Classification: queries > > Message Board URL: > > > http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.kentucky.counties.harlan/14646.1/mb.ashx > > Message Board Post: > > I have a couple ancestors who died in Harlan Co in the mid 1920s and have > found no death certificates for them either. I think the most likely > explanation for these situations is one where there was no attending > physician, and also the family took care of the burials themselves without a > funeral home. Thus without either a doctor or funeral home to generate a > death certificate, none was generated. > > As to obituaries, the Harlan Enterprise is extant on microfilm at the UK > libraries for those years, and you can order the microfilms via interlibrary > loan according to their newspaper website which can be found here: > > http://lib.uky.edu/repro/ > > So there likely are not any death certs to be found, and your last likely > source is that newspaper. > > Important Note: > The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you > would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link > above and respond on the board. > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >