Has anyone done any DNA work on the Lewis Green line? Rene' I am only one, but I am still one. I cannot do everything, but still I can do something. And because I cannot do everything I will not refuse to do the something that I can do. - Helen Keller Disbelief in magic can force a poor soul into believing in government and business. - Tom Robbins "Tikkun Olam (to heal and repair the world) You are not obligated to complete the work, but neither are you free to abandon it" Rabbi Tarfun Generally, by the time you are Real, most of your hair has been loved off, and your eyes drop out and you get loose in the joints and very shabby. But these things don’t matter at all, because once you are Real you can’t be ugly, except to people who don’t understand. - Margery Williams, "The Velveteen Rabbit" **************Biggest Grammy Award surprises of all time on AOL Music. (http://music.aol.com/grammys/pictures/never-won-a-grammy?NCID=aolcmp003000000025 48)

I'm a decendant of Lewis Green. You said Haplogroup X. X is 2% of the populations of Europe, Near East and North Africa, but also it is one of the five haplogroups found in the indigenous peoples of the Americas. It is only about 3 % of the Americas but up to 25 % of northeastern North American Indians..especially the Algonquin peoples, and to a lesser extent the Sioux. I just took the Y DNA test for my Freeman line..was I ever surprised!!! Native American Q3. John Freeman ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sherry Huff" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, February 03, 2008 7:02 PM Subject: Re: [KYHARLAN] DNA of Green family > Hapl x if I am not mistaken > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] > On Behalf Of [email protected] > Sent: Sunday, February 03, 2008 9:20 PM > To: [email protected]; [email protected] > Subject: [KYHARLAN] DNA of Green family > > Has anyone done any DNA work on the Lewis Green line? > > Rene' > > I am only one, but I am still one. I cannot do everything, but still I > can > do something. And because I cannot do everything I will not refuse to do > the > something that I can do. > > - Helen Keller > > > Disbelief in magic can force a poor soul into believing in government and > business. - Tom Robbins > > "Tikkun Olam (to heal and repair the world) You are not obligated to > complete the work, but neither are you free to abandon it" Rabbi Tarfun > > Generally, by the time you are Real, most of your hair has been loved > off, > and your eyes drop out and you get loose in the joints and very shabby. > But > these things don’t matter at all, because once you are Real you can’t be > ugly, > except to people who don’t understand. > > - Margery Williams, "The Velveteen Rabbit" > > > > **************Biggest Grammy Award surprises of all time on AOL Music. > (http://music.aol.com/grammys/pictures/never-won-a-grammy?NCID=aolcmp003000000025 > 48) > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Me too, Elva! Sharon Young Jebavy <>< Former Georges Creek, Lawrence Co., KY Kid 1945-1950 Broker/Owner HomeWise Real Estate Services -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: Sunday, February 03, 2008 8:19 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [KYHARLAN] Elva--coal mining movie statement In a message dated 2/3/08 3:01:11 AM Eastern Standard Time, [email protected] writes: > Life was harsh, rugged and the coal miner was a breed that stood tall, > proud and held on to his dignity, beliefs and instilled in his children, > strength, courage and love of God. Proud to be a coal miners daughter. > > Elva > Elva... i just wanted to tell you that reading this brought tears to my eyes... my Father talked of the coal mine sin Harlan and my grand daddy too.. I like you think how fortunate i am that my Dad got his family out and moved on...he did not have an education, could not read or write, but he loved his family, worked hard until his body no longer would and never took charity..his pride would not let him..I have not watched the movie yet but I will...I have to be ready to watch it mentally...thanks for sharing! Debbie ************** Biggest Grammy Award surprises of all time on AOL Music. (http://music.aol.com/grammys/pictures/never-won-a-grammy?NCID=aolcmp0030000 00025 48) ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

In a message dated 2/3/08 3:01:11 AM Eastern Standard Time, [email protected] writes: > Life was harsh, rugged and the coal miner was a breed that stood tall, > proud and held on to his dignity, beliefs and instilled in his children, > strength, courage and love of God. Proud to be a coal miners daughter. > > Elva > Elva... i just wanted to tell you that reading this brought tears to my eyes... my Father talked of the coal mine sin Harlan and my grand daddy too.. I like you think how fortunate i am that my Dad got his family out and moved on...he did not have an education, could not read or write, but he loved his family, worked hard until his body no longer would and never took charity..his pride would not let him..I have not watched the movie yet but I will...I have to be ready to watch it mentally...thanks for sharing! Debbie ************** Biggest Grammy Award surprises of all time on AOL Music. (http://music.aol.com/grammys/pictures/never-won-a-grammy?NCID=aolcmp003000000025 48)

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: schoolmama Surnames: Hall, Jones, Crider,Rainey Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.kentucky.counties.harlan/14647.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: If you were like me, living through those horrible days, when our dads went on strike for a better life,the memories are so sad. The coal miner never got ahead in life, many days into the strike, there was no food, on the table. Neighbor helping neighbor. Our grandads, dads, brothers had a terriable life as a coal miner. I left Harlan as a spohmore in high school to become a nanny in Lexington for a wealthy family with three small children. The mom was so depressed she never got out of bed. As young as I was, I wondered, she has everything, why is she so depressed and sad. Steaks on the BBQ, a freezer full of food, a maid, a cook and a money in the bank. I never understood then the molding of a man under the thumb of the coal operator. I do now. My Parents never had time to think out loud, if they were worried, we kids never knew the pain, that filled thier hearts. We had nothing to compare our lives with. In that movie, was Sudie Hall, what she said about her dad was true, Nannie Crider went to jail, she married Hershel(Rainey). Nannie was the daughter of Denver and Vera Crider. The young Jones boy that lost his life due to the strike was tragic. When I watch that documentary I cry, because I can feel the pain and frustration that each and every family experienced being the slave to the coal operators. Today I feel my life is so different than my parents, because the coal mines never became part of my life after I decided at a very young age, there has to be a better life some where and in my own way, I found it. I still have family there and my heart is there, I don't think that many today could survive the harsh reality that our ancestors faced. Life was harsh, rugged and the coal miner was a breed that stood tall, proud and held on to his dignity, beliefs and instilled in his children, strength, courage and love of God. Proud to be a coal miners daughter. Elva Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: tbnglobal Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.kentucky.counties.harlan/14583.1.1.1.2.1.2.1.2.1.1.2.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: We have heard that the Noe's had American Indian blood (Cherokee out of NC??), but we've not been able to find anything in writing. Janet Nolan posted to this thread, and said that the James Metcalf that was married to Amy/Annie Creech, is not the same that was married to Anna Harris. That at least clears some things up, because it was hard trying to consign our James Metcalf to both marriages. Our James and Anna Harris Metcalf were divorced and she remarried a gentleman named Carlow (Carlo) Short. We have a portrait of Anna Harris Metcalf Short taken around 1924. My husband couldn't remember having a cousin named Ethel. I know Charles (married to Sue Massengale) and Jane (married to Orville Overton) that are also Elijah's children. Where does your mother fit and how many children did Elijah have? Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: stonewalltjj Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.kentucky.counties.harlan/14647.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi Elva, I just got the chance to sit down and watch this movie. It does a great job in telling about the coalmining people of Harlan and their struggles. I was really moved by it and it brought back a lot of memories for me. I hope more people will take the time to sit down and watch it and listen to what it it has to say. It's a real classic,just like you. Thank you so much for sharing it with all of us. TJ Jackson Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: number9coaltn Surnames: Napier Burkhart King Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.kentucky.counties.harlan/47.66.67.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Margaret Napier appears to be d/o Jefferson Burkhart (abt 1836-1911). His daughter Mary Burkhart married Woodard King. Margaret's daughter Lula's DC lists her father as Nath Thomas. 1900 Harlan County, Kentucky NO TWP LISTED Series: T623 Roll: 525 Page: 42 Margarett Napier h Oct 1874 35 wd 3/3 KY KY KY Louisa d Sep 1891 8 KY KY KY Luly d Jan 1895 5 KY KY KY Myrtle d Dec 1898 1 KY KY KY 1910 Harlan County, Kentucky YOCUM CRK Series: T624 Roll: 477 Page: 183 Margaret Napier h 38 wd 6/6 KY KY KY Louisa d 17 KY KY KY Lula d 14 KY KY KY Myrtle d 10 KY KY KY Fannie d 8 KY KY KY Fairbanks s 4 KY KY KY Homer s 6/12 KY KY KY 1920;Census Place: Evarts, Harlan, Kentucky; Roll: T625_574; Page: 10B; Enumeration District: 85; Image: 202 Margaret Napier h 45 d KY KY KY Lula Napier d 23 KY KY KY Myrtle Napier d 21 KY KY KY Rannie Napier d 19 KY KY KY Fairbanks Napier s 13 KY KY KY Homer Napier s 11 KY KY KY Dixie Napier d 3 1/12 KY KY KY Selmer Napier g/c 0/12 TN KY KY Claude Napier g/c 8/12 KY KY KY Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: JULIETHOMAS23 Surnames: noe, metcalf Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.kentucky.counties.harlan/14583.1.1.1.2.1.2.1.2.1.1.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Teresa, Elijah Noe is my grandfather. His brother uncle Jim, told my sister that Minnies mothers name was Fiona Creech or it could have been Flora and that she was married to James Metcalf. He also told us that someone in the line was supposed to have been a indian dr on the trail of tears. We were told it was James and Minnie I don't know if this is true or not. do you know which one is Minnies mother Annie Creech or Amy Creech or Flora Creech? Any help would be appreciated. My mother Ethel Noe Findley is Elijah's oldest child. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Janette_Nolan Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.kentucky.counties.harlan/14583.1.1.1.2.1.2.1.2.1.1.1.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: James Metcalf (1839-1919) who married Amy Creech in 1857 is not the same James Metcalf ( b. ca 1865) who married Flora Creech in 1879. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Thank You Roxie Barbara in OK ----- Original Message ----- From: "Topaz" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, February 01, 2008 7:19 PM Subject: Re: [KYHARLAN] OBIT Linda Lewis Bowling 1950-2008 > Thats who I have his parents as, with wife as Mary Ellen Mitchell > Roxie.... > > On Feb 1, 2008 7:12 PM, Barbara Carlile <[email protected]> wrote: > > > does anyone know if this Cecil Lewis is S/O Roscoe and Pearlie Dixon Lewis > > > > Barbara in OK > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: <[email protected]> > > To: <[email protected]> > > Sent: Friday, February 01, 2008 5:41 PM > > Subject: [KYHARLAN] OBIT Linda Lewis Bowling 1950-2008 > > > > > > > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > > > > > Author: KandyBackAgee > > > Surnames: Lewis, Bowling > > > Classification: obituary > > > > > > Message Board URL: > > > > > > > > > > http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.kentucky.counties.harlan/14651/mb.ashx > > > > > > Message Board Post: > > > > > > NOTE: I DO NOT KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THIS INDIVIDUAL. JUST POSTING THE > > OBITUARY ON LINDA BOWLING FROM THE HAMILTON (OH) JOURNAL-NEWS 2/1/08 > > > > > > Linda G. (Lewis) Bowling, age 57, of Oxford, OH passed away on January > > 29, > > 2008 at her residence. Linda was born September 29, 1950, in Lynch, KY. > > She > > was the daughter of Cecil and Mary Ellen Lewis. Linda recently retired > > from > > Square D with 34 years of service. Since retirement, she has enjoyed > > spending time with friends and family, babysitting great grandchildren and > > her dog Cricket, cooking, reading the Bible, gardening and was an active > > member of the Oxford Pentecostal Church. She is survived by her loving > > husband, Robert; son and daughter-in-law, Gaston and Isabella, daughter > > and > > son-in-law Gladys and Albert (Philips) and daughter-in-law Marlene > > Bowling, > > all of Oxford, OH. She is also survived by a brother James (Doris) Lewis > > of > > Liberty, IN; nephews, James David Lewis, D.J. (Meriah) Price and Jonathan > > Price, many great nieces, nephews, aunts, grandchildren, great > > grandchildren, great-great grandchildren and beloved friends. She was > > preceded in death by her parents, her s! > > > tep-father, Paul Hall and brothers-in-law Cletus Bowling and Aster > > Bowling. Visitation will be held at the Smith & Ogle Funeral Home, 5086 > > College Corner Pike, on February 3, 2008 from 4:00-7:00pm. Funeral > > services > > are to begin at 10:30 am at the Oxford Pentecostal Church, 3586 > > Oxford-Millville Rd., on February 4, 2008. Following the funeral services > > the burial service will be held at the Oxford Cemetery. Condolences may be > > made at www.smithoglefuneralhome.com > > > > > > Important Note: > > > The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you > > would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link > > above and respond on the board. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes > > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > -- > Let your light shine brightly today and every day. It just might light a > pathway for someone lost in the darkness. > =============================== > Christian Milkshake: Pressed down, shaken together and more than we can hope > for > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: joycecollins Surnames: BLAIR, McKNIGHT Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.kentucky.counties.harlan/14583.1.1.1.3.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hello, You are correct in that that is what I am saying. The Joseph and Sarah BLAIR McKNIGHT is the next generation down. Joseph is a James and Mary NEAL McKNIGHT. Or, said another way, Joseph was a BROTHER to Malinda McKNIGHT who married John BLAIR. Joyce Taylor Collins La Palma, CA Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: RoxieMaggardOHagan Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.kentucky.counties.harlan/14583.1.1.1.3.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Let me get this straight...so you are saying Melinda IS the d/o James and Mary Neal McKinght? I was under the impression in the thread Melinda was said to be the d/o Joseph and Sarah Blair McKnight Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: joycecollins Surnames: BLAIR, McKNIGHT Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.kentucky.counties.harlan/14583.1.1.1.3.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hello, What you have just outlined is what I have in my files. Malinda McKNIGHT and John BLAIR were a set of my gg-grandparents. Their daughter, Easter BLAIR was my g-grandmother and she married Zion Bailey BROWN (my g-grandfather and father of my grandfather, Samuel Roscoe BROWN b. Harlan Co. in 1880. Easter BLAIR BROWN and Zion Bailey BROWN are both buried in a privately maintained family cemetery at Woodway, Lee Co., VA. Joyce Taylor Collins La Palma, CA Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: RoxieMaggardOHagan Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.kentucky.counties.harlan/14583.1.1.1.2.1.2.1.2.1.1.1.1.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Teresa, I only had one wife for James Metcalf and it is Amy Creech b. 11-3-1839 d. 11-14-1913 d/o Thomas and Celia harrison Creech. Amy and James were married 3-5-1857, Harlan, Minister was Joseph S. Kelly, witness William Pace and Woodard Little, married at Thomas Creech residence, Harlan Co., Book A, page 086/087 line 24. I did not have a Flory/Flora for another wife. Have had some difficulty trying to review the postings regarding this family intermingling's. ...Roxie Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: RoxieMaggardOHagan Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.kentucky.counties.harlan/14583.1.1.1.2.1.2.1.2.1.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I do not have the copy of death certificate. I found it at that website. Perhaps follow the link to the home page and contact the person that submitted it? I know sometimes you can right-click and save as, but have not tried it with that one. I can see if I can find the submitter if you like? Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: RoxieMaggardOHagan Surnames: McKnight, Blair, Smith, Metcalf, Creech Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.kentucky.counties.harlan/14583.1.1.1.3/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi Joyce: I just stumbled across this posting and it seems I have had a wrong connection in my file. My source was Don Chesnut and it had James McKnight and Mary Neal as parents to Melinda w/o John Blair and Mother of Easter...Oh my...Would you mind emailing me corrections on this family? I have several siblings and am not so sure any of them are right. I was following the thread down on Jonathan Smith, the Creech's and Metcalf families. [email protected] Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: tbnglobal Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.kentucky.counties.harlan/14583.1.1.1.2.1.2.1.2.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Thank you for the information. Could we get a copy of the death certificate? You can send it to us at: [email protected] I tried to print it from the website and it said that I had to get it directly from you. We know that Flora (Flory) divorced James Metcalf and returned to her maiden name of Creech. We were wondering if James had remarried. We'll keep trying to get tidbits until we can fill in most of the blanks. Teresa Bunch Noe Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: KandyBackAgee Surnames: Lewis, Bowling Classification: obituary Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.kentucky.counties.harlan/14651/mb.ashx Message Board Post: NOTE: I DO NOT KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THIS INDIVIDUAL. JUST POSTING THE OBITUARY ON LINDA BOWLING FROM THE HAMILTON (OH) JOURNAL-NEWS 2/1/08 Linda G. (Lewis) Bowling, age 57, of Oxford, OH passed away on January 29, 2008 at her residence. Linda was born September 29, 1950, in Lynch, KY. She was the daughter of Cecil and Mary Ellen Lewis. Linda recently retired from Square D with 34 years of service. Since retirement, she has enjoyed spending time with friends and family, babysitting great grandchildren and her dog Cricket, cooking, reading the Bible, gardening and was an active member of the Oxford Pentecostal Church. She is survived by her loving husband, Robert; son and daughter-in-law, Gaston and Isabella, daughter and son-in-law Gladys and Albert (Philips) and daughter-in-law Marlene Bowling, all of Oxford, OH. She is also survived by a brother James (Doris) Lewis of Liberty, IN; nephews, James David Lewis, D.J. (Meriah) Price and Jonathan Price, many great nieces, nephews, aunts, grandchildren, great grandchildren, great-great grandchildren and beloved friends. She was preceded in death by her parents, her s! tep-father, Paul Hall and brothers-in-law Cletus Bowling and Aster Bowling. Visitation will be held at the Smith & Ogle Funeral Home, 5086 College Corner Pike, on February 3, 2008 from 4:00-7:00pm. Funeral services are to begin at 10:30 am at the Oxford Pentecostal Church, 3586 Oxford-Millville Rd., on February 4, 2008. Following the funeral services the burial service will be held at the Oxford Cemetery. Condolences may be made at www.smithoglefuneralhome.com Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: RoxieMaggardOHagan Surnames: Metcalf, Creech, Hensley Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.kentucky.counties.harlan/14583.1.1.1.2.1.2.1.2.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Here is a copy of a death certificate for James Metcalf http://freepages.misc.rootsweb.com/~kyborn/d189c.htm Seems to give the Mother and Father but does not list him with a wife and two dates are given for death...one reads 12-2-1919 and attending physician writes 12-28-1919 as last seen alive.... I know this name is in part of the discussion ongoing for the Creech association, just thought I'd drop that in. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.