Okay, I am jumping in here to clear up some of these lines since the Ash, Brown, Crady, Castleman, LaRue, etc. are all my lines. First of all Nancy Brown, listed with Reubin Ash in the 1850 LaRue Co. census is not a daughter of Zaddock and Mary Crady Brown. She is a daughter-in-law, the wife of James Brown (b 1829). She was Nancy Atherton Goodin and md. James Brown Aug 24, 1850 in Hardin Co. I have found that the second daughter of Ruebin and Mary listed as Eliza and Elizabeth Ann. I think it was probably Elizabeth and they shortened it to Eliza. She married Harrison Crume in 1856. The M J Ash (1847) in the 1850 LaRue Co. census is Martha Jane Ash who died in 1854. The C A is Catherine (Kate)A. Ash (1849) who married John B Jackson. ( Yes, Kathie this is the same Jackson line that marries into our Browns) I descend from Reubin and Mary Crady Brown Ash's daughter Lydia E., who married James Wm LaRue. Nancy Ash (b 1801) who married James Brown, Jr.(b 1780) is the daughter of Henry Ash and Rachel Devers. This Henry Ash (married 2nd to Elizabeth Brown) is the father of Ruebin Ash who married Mary Crady Brown. Ruebin and Mary Crady Brown Ash are my g g grandparents. Ruebin Ash who married Elizabeth McGrew is believed to be a brother of Henry Ash, who married Rachel Devers and Elizabeth Brown. Hope this clears up some of these lines. It is confusing since they all intermarry with each others famlies and the names are repeated the next generation. Carolyn > Hi Dave, > > Here are my notes: > > 1. DEATH: Cemetery Record online at www.interment.net > > "Ash, Mary, b. 18??? 1807, d. 2 May 1881 (wife of Reuben) > > Ash, Reuben, b. 22 May 1813, d. 11 Feb 1861" > > 2. 1850 Census of Hamilton Pct, LaRue, Kentucky, 10 Sept. > > 779/779 - Reubin Ash, 37, M, Farmer, 100, KY > > M. Ash, 42, F, KY (Mary Polly Crady Brown Ash) *I read this date a lot > differently than you! Or maybe a typo for me...* > > James Brown, 21, M, Farmer, KY (child of Mary and Zaddock Brown) > > Nancy Brown, 22, F, KY (child of Mary and Zaddock Brown) > > John Brown, 18, M, Farmer, KY, attended school (child of Mary and Zaddock > Brown) > > Henry Ash, 15, M, Farmer, KY, school, (due to birth date, we believe child > of Mary and Zaddock Brown) > > Elzth Ash, 13, F, KY, school > > Lydia Ash, 11, F, KY, school > > Mary A Ash, 9, F KY > > Felix Ash, 7, M, KY > > Tho Ash, 5, M, KY > > M. J. Ash, 4, F, KY > > Mary Crady, 3, F, KY > > C. A. Ash, 1 F, KY > > 3. MARRIAGE: > > "Hardin County, Ky Marriages, 1793-1829" compiled by Mary Josephine > Jones... > > " Brown, Zadock, and Polly Crady. Surety David Crady, girl's father, who > consented in person. May of age. 12 Dec 1828. G. Rogers. A 190." THIS IS > MARY POLLY'S FIRST MARRIAGE. She was not of age yet! > Second Marriage; > > Taken from "Hardin County, Ky Marriages, 1830-1850" compiled by Mary > Josephine Jones, published by Ancestral Trails Historical Society: Ash, > Reuben, and Mrs. Mary Brown. 4 Jul 1835. Surety David Crady. Man of age; > lady married before. J. Daugherty. B102. (note discrepancy - this must be > bond) > > 4. Email from Threesonsofpat@aol.com > > "Taken from "Kentucky Ancestor Charts" by Judy Nacke, published by > Ancestral > Trails Historical Society. Info taken from chart submitted Carolyn > Wimp...Ruben Ash (b. May 22, 1813 d. Feb 11, 1861 LaRue Co) was the son of > Henry Ash (d 1824) and Elizabeth Brown (b. 1870 ??- think he/she meant > 1770). Henry and Elizabeth married Feb 7, 1809. Ruben married on July 4, > 1835 to Mary Crady (b. 1807 d May 2, 1881 LaRue Co, Ky) She was the dau of > David Crady (b. 1762 d 1839) and Polly Edlin (b. 1771). David and Polly > married Dec. 31, 1789. Lydia Ash (b. July 1839 Hardin Co. d Dec 15, 1917 > Elizabethtown, Ky) was the dau of Ruben and Mary. Lydia married James > William LaRue on Dec 18, 1862. James was b. Dec 16, 1816 LaRue Co d Jan > 15, > 1892 in Elizabethtown. > 5. James Brown, Jr. was the sister to Elizabeth Brown, who married Henry > Ash. (Henry's second marriage.) James and Elizabeth were children of my > elusive James and Mary Matchett Brown. We think James, Sr., died about > 1818 > and is buried in the family cemetery - but the field stones are worn and > the > cattle have been trampling over them, etc. James Brown, Jr. married Nancy > Ash, daughter of Reuben Ash and Elizabeth McGrew. This Reuben was a > brother > to Henry, who married Elizabeth Brown. YES, it is a confusing mess - but > when you are in KY in the 1780s, you marry who you can... > > Hope that helps! > > Kathie

Hi Carolyn, Thanks for clearing everything up! You are certainly the expert. Sorry I had some things messed up. And I knew that James Brown, Jr married daughter of Henry Ash and Rachel Devers.... DUH! I am certainly glad that you "jumped in" and straightened things out!!! Kathie On 6/8/06, Carolyn Wimp <cwimp@infionline.net> wrote: > > Okay, I am jumping in here to clear up some of these lines since the Ash, > Brown, Crady, Castleman, LaRue, etc. are all my lines. > First of all Nancy Brown, listed with Reubin Ash in the 1850 LaRue Co. > census is not a daughter of Zaddock and Mary Crady Brown. She is a > daughter-in-law, the wife of James Brown (b 1829). She was Nancy Atherton > Goodin and md. James Brown Aug 24, 1850 in Hardin Co. > > I have found that the second daughter of Ruebin and Mary listed as Eliza > and Elizabeth Ann. I think it was probably Elizabeth and they shortened > it > to Eliza. She married Harrison Crume in 1856. > > The M J Ash (1847) in the 1850 LaRue Co. census is Martha Jane Ash who > died > in 1854. > > The C A is Catherine (Kate)A. Ash (1849) who married John B Jackson. ( > Yes, > Kathie this is the same Jackson line that marries into our Browns) > > I descend from Reubin and Mary Crady Brown Ash's daughter Lydia E., who > married James Wm LaRue. > > Nancy Ash (b 1801) who married James Brown, Jr.(b 1780) is the daughter of > Henry Ash and Rachel Devers. This Henry Ash (married 2nd to Elizabeth > Brown) > is the father of Ruebin Ash who married Mary Crady Brown. Ruebin and > Mary > Crady Brown Ash are my g g grandparents. > > Ruebin Ash who married Elizabeth McGrew is believed to be a brother of > Henry > Ash, who married Rachel Devers and Elizabeth Brown. > > Hope this clears up some of these lines. It is confusing since they all > intermarry with each others famlies and the names are repeated the next > generation. > > Carolyn > > Hi Dave, > > > > Here are my notes: > > > > 1. DEATH: Cemetery Record online at www.interment.net > > > > "Ash, Mary, b. 18??? 1807, d. 2 May 1881 (wife of Reuben) > > > > Ash, Reuben, b. 22 May 1813, d. 11 Feb 1861" > > > > 2. 1850 Census of Hamilton Pct, LaRue, Kentucky, 10 Sept. > > > > 779/779 - Reubin Ash, 37, M, Farmer, 100, KY > > > > M. Ash, 42, F, KY (Mary Polly Crady Brown Ash) *I read this date a lot > > differently than you! Or maybe a typo for me...* > > > > James Brown, 21, M, Farmer, KY (child of Mary and Zaddock Brown) > > > > Nancy Brown, 22, F, KY (child of Mary and Zaddock Brown) > > > > John Brown, 18, M, Farmer, KY, attended school (child of Mary and > Zaddock > > Brown) > > > > Henry Ash, 15, M, Farmer, KY, school, (due to birth date, we believe > child > > of Mary and Zaddock Brown) > > > > Elzth Ash, 13, F, KY, school > > > > Lydia Ash, 11, F, KY, school > > > > Mary A Ash, 9, F KY > > > > Felix Ash, 7, M, KY > > > > Tho Ash, 5, M, KY > > > > M. J. Ash, 4, F, KY > > > > Mary Crady, 3, F, KY > > > > C. A. Ash, 1 F, KY > > > > 3. MARRIAGE: > > > > "Hardin County, Ky Marriages, 1793-1829" compiled by Mary Josephine > > Jones... > > > > " Brown, Zadock, and Polly Crady. Surety David Crady, girl's father, who > > consented in person. May of age. 12 Dec 1828. G. Rogers. A 190." THIS IS > > MARY POLLY'S FIRST MARRIAGE. She was not of age yet! > > Second Marriage; > > > > Taken from "Hardin County, Ky Marriages, 1830-1850" compiled by Mary > > Josephine Jones, published by Ancestral Trails Historical Society: Ash, > > Reuben, and Mrs. Mary Brown. 4 Jul 1835. Surety David Crady. Man of age; > > lady married before. J. Daugherty. B102. (note discrepancy - this must > be > > bond) > > > > 4. Email from Threesonsofpat@aol.com > > > > "Taken from "Kentucky Ancestor Charts" by Judy Nacke, published by > > Ancestral > > Trails Historical Society. Info taken from chart submitted Carolyn > > Wimp...Ruben Ash (b. May 22, 1813 d. Feb 11, 1861 LaRue Co) was the son > of > > Henry Ash (d 1824) and Elizabeth Brown (b. 1870 ??- think he/she meant > > 1770). Henry and Elizabeth married Feb 7, 1809. Ruben married on July 4, > > 1835 to Mary Crady (b. 1807 d May 2, 1881 LaRue Co, Ky) She was the dau > of > > David Crady (b. 1762 d 1839) and Polly Edlin (b. 1771). David and Polly > > married Dec. 31, 1789. Lydia Ash (b. July 1839 Hardin Co. d Dec 15, 1917 > > Elizabethtown, Ky) was the dau of Ruben and Mary. Lydia married James > > William LaRue on Dec 18, 1862. James was b. Dec 16, 1816 LaRue Co d Jan > > 15, > > 1892 in Elizabethtown. > > 5. James Brown, Jr. was the sister to Elizabeth Brown, who married > Henry > > Ash. (Henry's second marriage.) James and Elizabeth were children of my > > elusive James and Mary Matchett Brown. We think James, Sr., died about > > 1818 > > and is buried in the family cemetery - but the field stones are worn and > > the > > cattle have been trampling over them, etc. James Brown, Jr. married > Nancy > > Ash, daughter of Reuben Ash and Elizabeth McGrew. This Reuben was a > > brother > > to Henry, who married Elizabeth Brown. 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