Can I muddy the waters a little bit more for you?? I found William and Hannah in the 1850 census and there he is listed as being born in England and she is listed as being born in Canada. Could it be N.S. Instead of W.S ?? -------Original Message------- From: LEE CHARLOTTE BEYER Date: 07/09/06 16:53:54 To: KYHARDIN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [KYHARDIN] Follow up on "what does W.S. mean" in place of birth space I sent out an SOS yesterday asking what W.S. meant when used for the place of birth. You have all been so wonderful. I contacted Mary and she is in the process of moving and is having trouble finding the census this was on. But she sent me what she could find and I am copying it to this email. If she finds the census she will send it to me. I hope this helps. God Bless Char labecaly@msn.com Mary's email follows: Doggone it anyway. I am moving, and stuff is packed. I am frantically searching for that ONE paper. I am so disorganized. This is what I have found so far. (I can't find the original paper, but I will eventually.) My husband died in 2001, and this is his family. Paskel Conrad Barfield (He went by Conrad) Father:Edward Barfield b.1881 in Ohio Mother:Florence Ware b.1883 in MO. Grandfather: William Barfield b.1846 in Ohio Grandmother Anna Millward b.circa 1858 Gr. Grandmother Hannah Millward b.1823 W.S. (another census says N.Y.)She died in Saint Louis,MO. in 1892. Her death Cert is spelled "Millard" which is incorrect. She is buried in Bethany Cemetery in Saint Louis MO. No grave marker.No Sexton. Gr.Grandfather William Barfield b.1823 in Miss. I have another question. On a Baptismal Cert. another of Conrad's grandmothers was a witness at the Baptism of the children. Her name was Ellen Dora (Harris) Ware. She said that she was born on 1854 in Owasco Sullivan Co.Missouri. I can't find "Owasco" anywhere, let alone Missouri. I will diligently look for the census that I need and let you all know. Thanks for your patience. ==== KYHARDIN Mailing List ==== To unsubscribe from this list, send ONLY the word UNSUBSCRIBE to the utility address KYHARDIN-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM If you are trying to unsubscribe from the Digest list, use the same utility address but change the -L- to a -D- ============================== Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/2AB.2ACI/5164.3 Message Board Post: Hi again, I did find spouse Hettie L. Short as a child with her family in Daviess Co., KY in the 1880 census. Maybe this will help somehow? Regards, Terri Household: Name Relation Marital Status Gender Race Age Birthplace Occupation Father's Birthplace Mother's Birthplace John W. SHORT Self M Male W 29 KY Work On Farm KY KY Susan M. SHORT Wife M Female W 22 KY Keeping House KY KY Ella B. SHORT Dau S Female W 3 KY KY KY Hettie L. SHORT Dau S Female W 1 KY KY KY Source Information: Census Place Boston, Daviess, Kentucky Family History Library Film 1254411 NA Film Number T9-0411 Page Number 381B

Hi~ Owasco is in Sullivan County, MO. Here is a site with some genealogical info: _http://www.kriddle.smartneighborhood.net/_ (http://www.kriddle.smartneighborhood.net/) ~Julia In a message dated 7/9/2006 8:54:11 PM Eastern Standard Time, labecaly@msn.com writes: I sent out an SOS yesterday asking what W.S. meant when used for the place of birth. You have all been so wonderful. I contacted Mary and she is in the process of moving and is having trouble finding the census this was on. But she sent me what she could find and I am copying it to this email. If she finds the census she will send it to me. I hope this helps. God Bless Char labecaly@msn.com Mary's email follows: Doggone it anyway. I am moving, and stuff is packed. I am frantically searching for that ONE paper. I am so disorganized. This is what I have found so far. (I can't find the original paper, but I will eventually.) My husband died in 2001, and this is his family. Paskel Conrad Barfield (He went by Conrad) Father:Edward Barfield b.1881 in Ohio Mother:Florence Ware b.1883 in MO. Grandfather: William Barfield b.1846 in Ohio Grandmother Anna Millward b.circa 1858 Gr. Grandmother Hannah Millward b.1823 W.S. (another census says N.Y.)She died in Saint Louis,MO. in 1892. Her death Cert is spelled "Millard" which is incorrect. She is buried in Bethany Cemetery in Saint Louis MO. No grave marker.No Sexton. Gr.Grandfather William Barfield b.1823 in Miss. I have another question. On a Baptismal Cert. another of Conrad's grandmothers was a witness at the Baptism of the children. Her name was Ellen Dora (Harris) Ware. She said that she was born on 1854 in Owasco Sullivan Co.Missouri. I can't find "Owasco" anywhere, let alone Missouri. I will diligently look for the census that I need and let you all know. Thanks for your patience. ==== KYHARDIN Mailing List ==== To unsubscribe from this list, send ONLY the word UNSUBSCRIBE to the utility address KYHARDIN-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM If you are trying to unsubscribe from the Digest list, use the same utility address but change the -L- to a -D- ============================== Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/2AB.2ACI/5164.2 Message Board Post: I think you might be interested in this website by Sherri Hessick. She has a great deal of info on the Peakes of Nelson Co., KY, and also on part of the family that went to Meade and Hardin Cos., KY. http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~slhessick/peakes09.htm I don't have any further Peake information but wish you the best of luck with your research! Regards, Terri McDonald Hauk

That address should read: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~slhessick/ It's called "The Peakes of Nelson County, Kentucky" Tim Dooley -----Original Message----- From: CClark4114@aol.com [mailto:CClark4114@aol.com] Sent: Sunday, July 09, 2006 3:41 AM To: KYHARDIN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [KYHARDIN] Birth of Grandfather Dear jimiven: There is a Peakes website that should be able to give you the information you are seeking. It has a section on Peaks of Hardin Co., Ky. The address is: _http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~shessick/index.htm/_ (http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~shessick/index.htm/) If you have any problems just let me know. Chas of Tucson ______________________________

I transcribe for the KY Vital Records project and have come across some unusual birthplaces. They have said "Atlantic Ocean," "in the middle of the ocean," and "at sea." Could it be possible that W. S. stands for the initials of a ship? Sherrie

I sent out an SOS yesterday asking what W.S. meant when used for the place of birth. You have all been so wonderful. I contacted Mary and she is in the process of moving and is having trouble finding the census this was on. But she sent me what she could find and I am copying it to this email. If she finds the census she will send it to me. I hope this helps. God Bless Char labecaly@msn.com Mary's email follows: Doggone it anyway. I am moving, and stuff is packed. I am frantically searching for that ONE paper. I am so disorganized. This is what I have found so far. (I can't find the original paper, but I will eventually.) My husband died in 2001, and this is his family. Paskel Conrad Barfield (He went by Conrad) Father:Edward Barfield b.1881 in Ohio Mother:Florence Ware b.1883 in MO. Grandfather: William Barfield b.1846 in Ohio Grandmother Anna Millward b.circa 1858 Gr. Grandmother Hannah Millward b.1823 W.S. (another census says N.Y.)She died in Saint Louis,MO. in 1892. Her death Cert is spelled "Millard" which is incorrect. She is buried in Bethany Cemetery in Saint Louis MO. No grave marker.No Sexton. Gr.Grandfather William Barfield b.1823 in Miss. I have another question. On a Baptismal Cert. another of Conrad's grandmothers was a witness at the Baptism of the children. Her name was Ellen Dora (Harris) Ware. She said that she was born on 1854 in Owasco Sullivan Co.Missouri. I can't find "Owasco" anywhere, let alone Missouri. I will diligently look for the census that I need and let you all know. Thanks for your patience.

This link below does not work. -----Original Message----- From: CClark4114@aol.com [mailto:CClark4114@aol.com] Sent: Sunday, July 09, 2006 4:41 AM To: KYHARDIN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [KYHARDIN] Birth of Grandfather Dear jimiven: There is a Peakes website that should be able to give you the information you are seeking. It has a section on Peaks of Hardin Co., Ky. The address is: _http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~shessick/index.htm/_ (http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~shessick/index.htm/) If you have any problems just let me know. Chas of Tucson ==== KYHARDIN Mailing List ==== To unsubscribe from this list, send ONLY the word UNSUBSCRIBE to the utility address KYHARDIN-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM If you are trying to unsubscribe from the Digest list, use the same utility address but change the -L- to a -D- ============================== New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your ancestors at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. Learn more: http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&ta rgetid=5429

Dear jimiven: There is a Peakes website that should be able to give you the information you are seeking. It has a section on Peaks of Hardin Co., Ky. The address is: _http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~shessick/index.htm/_ (http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~shessick/index.htm/) If you have any problems just let me know. Chas of Tucson

Maybe the "W" is really an "M", and if so, maybe the grandmother was worn in Mississippi. That's all I can think of. In searching censuses, I certainly can't tell a W from an M sometimes. Teresa Munn ----- Original Message ----- From: "LEE CHARLOTTE BEYER" <labecaly@msn.com> To: <KYHARDIN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, July 08, 2006 10:30 PM Subject: [KYHARDIN] What is "born in W. S." mean? >I am hoping someone could help me help a fellow genealogy searcher. I have >copied the email she sent me. Hopefully someone knows what W.S. stands >for, if not any suggestions? > > I was wondering if you could help me with a problem on my husband's side. > His grandmother, according to the census takers, was born in W.S. I > thought maybe Wisconsin, but no. Do you have any idea of what W.S. > could be? > Thanks. > > Char > labecaly@msn.com > > > > ==== KYHARDIN Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe from this list, send ONLY the word UNSUBSCRIBE to the > utility address KYHARDIN-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM If you are trying to > unsubscribe from the Digest list, use the same utility address but change > the -L- to a -D- > > ============================== > Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for > ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx > >

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Peak ,Skees Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/2AB.2ACI/5164.1 Message Board Post: Richard Peak b. Apr.22,1875 Hardin Co. KY. S/o Benedict J. Peak and Sarah Ann Skees. This came from Ancestry . I have nothing else.

I am hoping someone could help me help a fellow genealogy searcher. I have copied the email she sent me. Hopefully someone knows what W.S. stands for, if not any suggestions? I was wondering if you could help me with a problem on my husband's side. His grandmother, according to the census takers, was born in W.S. I thought maybe Wisconsin, but no. Do you have any idea of what W.S. could be? Thanks. Char labecaly@msn.com

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Peak or Peake Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/2AB.2ACI/5164 Message Board Post: Hi, I am looking for birth and any other information I can find on my Grandfather from my mother's side of the family. His name was Richard Peak believed to have been born in Hardin County approximately 1875. He married Hettie Lee Short of Davies County. His mother was Sarah Ann Skees born 1843 in Hardin County. This is a part of my research into my family history.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/2AB.2ACI/378.1899.2 Message Board Post: Do you have any information on any MCCANDLESS familys in LaRue County around 1900. I am looking for Warren and Albert Edmon MCCANDLESS .

Hello everyone, I am a new member. I live in SC and can't travel to KY to do my own research. I hope some of you who live in Hardin Co. can help me. My great grandfather was Charles VINCENT Farmer, B. 1847/49 in Hardin Co. I have no idea who his parents were. I can't find him on the 1850, 1860, or 1870 census anywhere in KY. (By 1880 he was married and living in NC) My cousin says she remembers Grandma telling her that Vincent was orphaned. His parents were killed in a buggy accident (she thinks that's what Grandma told her.) Maybe someone could find their obits. Quite by accident I found their marriage license and certificate (1877) on the Hardin Co. Clerk's web site. I had always assumed they were married in NC since that is where Mary E. Edwards (my great grandmother) was from. I was astonished when I actually pulled up and printed off an image of those 130 year-old documents.! Congratulations Hardin Co. I don't know of another county in any state that has made it so easy to obtain documents we need to do genealogical research over the internet. Sadly, however, parents' names were not listed on either the license or certificate. May I hear from any of you who have Farmers from Hardin Co., Ky among your ancestors. I don't see how I will ever find out who Vincent's parents were without someone helping me who lives there. Thanks in advance for anyone's help. Teresa Munn

I had her as Mary Ann Jones but nothing else on her. What can you tell me about her parents/siblings. Do you need more generations back on FRENCH? Dave Ancestors of James Edmund French Generation No. 1 1. James Edmund French, born Oct 1849 in Hardin Co., KY; died 1910. He was the son of 2. Gabriel French and 3. Elizabeth Ann Gatton. He married (1) Mary Ann Jones Mar 17, 1870 in Edmonson Co., KY. She was born 1850. More About James French and Mary Jones: Marriage: Mar 17, 1870, Edmonson Co., KY Generation No. 2 2. Gabriel French, born Jun 23, 1826 in Hardin Co., KY; died Sep 25, 1882 in Hardin Co., KY. He was the son of 4. Elisha Marion French and 5. Mary E. Payne. He married 3. Elizabeth Ann Gatton Oct 15, 1848 in Hardin Co. Ky. 3. Elizabeth Ann Gatton, born Dec 04, 1829 in Edmunson Co., KY; died Aug 21, 1882 in Hardin Co., KY. She was the daughter of 6. James Gatton and 7. Mary Newton. More About Gabriel French and Elizabeth Gatton: Marriage: Oct 15, 1848, Hardin Co. Ky Children of Gabriel French and Elizabeth Gatton are: 1 i. James Edmund French, born Oct 1849 in Hardin Co., KY; died 1910; married Mary Ann Jones Mar 17, 1870 in Edmonson Co., KY. ii. George William French, born Sep 03, 1851; died Oct 05, 1928 in Hardin Co., KY; married Mary Elizabeth Durbin Feb 25, 1873 in Edmonson Co., KY; born Oct 13, 1854; died Jul 18, 1939 in Hardin Co., KY. More About George French and Mary Durbin: Marriage: Feb 25, 1873, Edmonson Co., KY iii. John Thomas French, born Jan 30, 1853; died Sep 1882; married Marta Ann Hunt Jan 24, 1874 in Edmonson Co., KY; born 1852 in KY. More About John French and Marta Hunt: Marriage: Jan 24, 1874, Edmonson Co., KY iv. Elisha Marion French, born Apr 10, 1855; died 1895; married Jemima Frances Robinson Dec 16, 1871 in Edmonson Co., KY; born 1855 in KY. More About Elisha French and Jemima Robinson: Marriage: Dec 16, 1871, Edmonson Co., KY v. Mary Ellen French, born Dec 20, 1856 in Edmunson Co., KY; died Jun 29, 1880 in Hardin Co., KY; married William M. Hunt Sep 28, 1874 in Edmonson Co., KY; born Abt. 1847. More About William Hunt and Mary French: Marriage: Sep 28, 1874, Edmonson Co., KY vi. Austin French, born Jul 03, 1858 in Edmunson Co., KY; died Apr 12, 1925; married Annie Eliza Thomas Feb 03, 1880 in Hardin Co. Ky; born Sep 29, 1858; died Jun 10, 1945. More About Austin French and Annie Thomas: Marriage: Feb 03, 1880, Hardin Co. Ky vii. Charles Francis French, born 1860; died Jul 03, 1921 in Union Co., KY; married Martha Ellen Thomas Dec 27, 1882 in Hardin Co. Ky. More About Charles French and Martha Thomas: Marriage: Dec 27, 1882, Hardin Co. Ky viii. Sarah Jane French, born 1862; died 1900; married Henry Elias Thomas Oct 14, 1879 in Hardin Co. Ky; born 1857. More About Henry Thomas and Sarah French: Marriage: Oct 14, 1879, Hardin Co. Ky ix. Teresa Elizabeth French, born Jan 08, 1861 in Edmunson Co., KY; died Nov 03, 1934 in Marion Co., KY. x. Ruth Ann French, born May 12, 1866 in Edmunson Co., KY; died Dec 17, 1904 in Marion Co., KY. xi. Emma Margaret French, born Apr 14, 1868 in Edmunson Co., KY; died Sep 14, 1937; married William David Line Jun 03, 1883. More About William Line and Emma French: Marriage: Jun 03, 1883 xii. Gabriel Joseph French, born Jun 10, 1870 in Edmunson Co., KY; died Jan 29, 1958 in Hardin Co., KY; married Marcella Thomas Jan 26, 1892 in Hardin Co. Ky; born Apr 02, 1866 in Hardin Co., KY; died Dec 18, 1962 in Littleton, PA. More About Gabriel French and Marcella Thomas: Marriage: Jan 26, 1892, Hardin Co. Ky xiii. Martha Frances French, born Jun 18, 1872 in Edmunson Co., KY; died Apr 02, 1943 in Jefferson Co., KY; married Charles Richard Thomas Oct 17, 1893 in Hardin Co. Ky; born Feb 09, 1868 in Hardin Co., KY; died Jan 13, 1944 in Hardin Co., KY. More About Charles Thomas and Martha French: Marriage: Oct 17, 1893, Hardin Co. Ky Generation No. 3 4. Elisha Marion French, born 1786 in St. Mary's Co., MD; died Oct 11, 1868 in IL. He was the son of Raphael Thomas French and Mary Ann Meade. He married 5. Mary E. Payne Jan 08, 1822 in Hardin Co. Ky. 5. Mary E. Payne, born 1791. More About Elisha French and Mary Payne: Marriage: Jan 08, 1822, Hardin Co. Ky Children of Elisha French and Mary Payne are: i. Ellen French ii. William French, born 1822. iii. Robert French, born 1823. iv. Sarah French, born 1825. 2 v. Gabriel French, born Jun 23, 1826 in Hardin Co., KY; died Sep 25, 1882 in Hardin Co., KY; married (1) Elizabeth Johnson Feb 01, 1844 in Bullitt Co. Ky; married (2) Elizabeth Ann Gatton Oct 15, 1848 in Hardin Co. Ky. vi. Margaret French, born 1827. vii. Mariah French, born 1831; married John Bryant. viii. Martina French, born 1834. 6. James Gatton He married 7. Mary Newton. 7. Mary Newton Child of James Gatton and Mary Newton is: 3 i. Elizabeth Ann Gatton, born Dec 04, 1829 in Edmunson Co., KY; died Aug 21, 1882 in Hardin Co., KY; married Gabriel French Oct 15, 1848 in Hardin Co. Ky. ----- Original Message ----- From: <jedlhd@aol.com> To: <KYHARDIN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, July 05, 2006 11:07 AM Subject: [KYHARDIN] Re: French Family of Hardin/Meade County > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Surnames: French, Jones, Gatton,Devers, Hinton, Garrett > Classification: Query > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/2AB.2ACI/5144.1.2.1.1 > > Message Board Post: > > My Mary Jane Jones b. 1850 married James E. French 1870 > > > ==== KYHARDIN Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe from this list, send ONLY the word UNSUBSCRIBE to the > utility address KYHARDIN-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM If you are trying to > unsubscribe from the Digest list, use the same utility address but change > the -L- to a -D- > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx >

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: French, Jones, Gatton,Devers, Hinton, Garrett Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/2AB.2ACI/5144.1.2.1.1 Message Board Post: My Mary Jane Jones b. 1850 married James E. French 1870

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Re: Charles Gristy, b. 1817, s/o James A. Gristy Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/2AB.2ACI/5160.1.1.1.1 Message Board Post: Hi Chas of Tucson! Nice to hear from you!! Thank you for the additional info. Betsy

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: French Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/2AB.2ACI/5144.1.2.1 Message Board Post: Lillian, Mine are definitely from Hardin County, especially Colesburg area. David French, born 1877 in Colesburg. His father was Raymond, buried in St. Johns Cemetery. What dates are your ancestors, Jones, etc. ? Thanks. Mark T.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/2AB.2ACI/5160.1.1.1 Message Board Post: Betsy: Yes, I agree with Bob alvey and have known him to be a good researcher.. I have Basil dying in 1854 Grayson ,Ky. have ann Alvey marrying 5 April, 1806 Springfield. Jeremiah Montgomery and she died in Springfield , Washington coc.,Ky William married Madeline Watson on 6 Nov., 1825 Springfield < Ky The source of these additions was from Pat Obrist Chas of Tucson