Dottie, I had completely forgotten about the test till you mentioned it today. Thank you. I forwarded the question onto one of my uncles to see if he'd be interested in joining the YDNA test. Could you give me more info. again on how one qualifies and what they have to do to take the test? Thanks, Julie Keyser ----- Original Message ----- From: Dottie Brentlinger<mailto:dottieb@iglou.com> To: KYHARDIN-L@rootsweb.com<mailto:KYHARDIN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2006 10:30 PM Subject: HARRIS family ca 1800 Has anyone from the Hardin, Co KY HARRIS' had a male descendent who took the YDNA test? I had a relative take the test last year for the William Harris born in 1803 VA & wife Mary Dorsey born 1803 KY line. They lived in Hardin Co, Ky all their lives. Thanks, Dottie ______________________________

Interested in any family that came from Pittsylvania Co, Virginia in the early 1800's. Both the FALLON and WRIGHT families came from Pittsylvania Co, VA about 1800. The Silas Twedell family also came from Pittsylvania Co. Son James Twedell married 4 June 1812 Nancy Harris. Nancy was the daughter of Charles Harris of Hardin Co, KY. Thanks, Dottie

Has anyone from the Hardin, Co KY HARRIS' had a male descendent who took the YDNA test? I had a relative take the test last year for the William Harris born in 1803 VA & wife Mary Dorsey born 1803 KY line. They lived in Hardin Co, Ky all their lives. Thanks, Dottie

Dottie, When a blood test is taken, can one blood test be used to find more than one family line? Sherrie

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/2AB.2ACI/5167 Message Board Post: Maryland Catholics on the Frontier by Timothy O'Rourke I have located current contact information for Father O'Rourke's brother ....who has a few remaining copies of his brother's volume .... as well as other publications of Father O'Rourke's for sale Dan O'Rourke 10676 W 157th Terr Overland Park, Ks 66221 dsorourke@aol.com

Jean, I have done a lot of work in St. Michael's cemetery in Louisville. The records are not complete. The office has some of the St. Michael's burials but not all. It is my understanding that St. Louis was the Irish cemetery and that St. Michael's was the German cemetery. In later years burials were mixed. Martha

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Tipton, Murray, MItchell, Webb, Pritchart, Steptoe,Poteet,Morgan, Phillips Bell,McDowd,Capps Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/2AB.2ACI/4210.1.1.1.2.1.2 Message Board Post: Hello, I beleive Irene Cundiff and I have communicated at one time ans she was very helpful. We are related thrugh *Jabez Murray Tipton and *Elizabet Mitchell's Children.. Mine is *Clemancy Tipton and Hers from *Ninus Preston Tipton.(Clemancy"s Brother) I was so delighted to receive the information she sent. I have often wondered if they ever found any Info. on the *Putte/Poteet and *Steptoe Lines of the family. They seemed to be a little elusive. I would be glad to send my current family group sheets and some photos, if you would be interested. I believe I hadn't found the photos of my grand mother that I wanted to send her,at the time we communicated as well as some of the rest of our side. I don't have any of the Webb side other than grandmother but would send the one' s I have of my Grandmother *Clara Ethel Webb. and her husband *Virgil Gabriel Bell and there family. I would need a current address . If You would be interested, Please feel free to contact me through my e-mail address. gummbowy@hotmail.com and give Irene my Love. Ethel Capps

I would like to join. Dottie Brentlinger dottieb@iglou.com -----Original Message----- From: Sharon Weiss [mailto:familyhistory2004@yahoo.com] Sent: Monday, October 24, 2005 1:20 PM To: KYHARDIN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [KYHARDIN] HARDIN COUNTY @ MYFAMILY.COM Hi, I was trying to find a Hardin county group @myfamily.com. I had no success so I have started my own. Anyone wishing to join may contact me directly. Thanks Sharon Weiss "Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it." George Santayana US Philosopher (1863-1952) --------------------------------- Yahoo! FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. ==== KYHARDIN Mailing List ==== NOTICE: Posting of virus warnings, test messages, chain letters, political announcements, current events, items for sale, personal messages, flames, etc. (in other words - spam) is NOT ALLOWED and will be grounds for removal. Consideration for exceptions, contact Kathleen Burnett kathleenburnett@earthlink.net ============================== Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx

Dottie, Please inform me about your group direct to : jimmybob1946@alltel.net. Thanks, Jim Muth -----Original Message----- From: Dottie Brentlinger [mailto:dottieb@iglou.com] Sent: Saturday, July 15, 2006 11:59 AM To: KYHARDIN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: RE: [KYHARDIN] HARDIN COUNTY @ MYFAMILY.COM I would like to join. Dottie Brentlinger dottieb@iglou.com -----Original Message----- From: Sharon Weiss [mailto:familyhistory2004@yahoo.com] Sent: Monday, October 24, 2005 1:20 PM To: KYHARDIN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [KYHARDIN] HARDIN COUNTY @ MYFAMILY.COM Hi, I was trying to find a Hardin county group @myfamily.com. I had no success so I have started my own. Anyone wishing to join may contact me directly. Thanks Sharon Weiss "Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it." George Santayana US Philosopher (1863-1952) --------------------------------- Yahoo! FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. ==== KYHARDIN Mailing List ==== NOTICE: Posting of virus warnings, test messages, chain letters, political announcements, current events, items for sale, personal messages, flames, etc. (in other words - spam) is NOT ALLOWED and will be grounds for removal. Consideration for exceptions, contact Kathleen Burnett kathleenburnett@earthlink.net ============================== Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx ==== KYHARDIN Mailing List ==== NOTICE: Posting of virus warnings, test messages, chain letters, political announcements, current events, items for sale, personal messages, flames, etc. (in other words - spam) is NOT ALLOWED and will be grounds for removal. Consideration for exceptions, contact Kathleen Burnett kathleenburnett@earthlink.net ============================== Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. New content added every business day. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.1/389 - Release Date: 7/14/2006

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Lincoln Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/2AB.2ACI/5166 Message Board Post: The Thomas Lincoln mentioned in the Kentucky State marker 885 in Cumberland County Kentucky as noted below IS NOT THE FATHER OF ABRAHAM LINCOLN. ************************** Lincoln's Father Here (Marker Number: 885) County: Cumberland Location: Burkesville, Courthouse lawn, KY 61, 90 Description: Thomas Lincoln made claim for land in Cumberland County in May, 1801. In Jan., 1802 and again in 1804 he was appointed constable. On Sept. 5, 1802, he was commissioned ensign in Cornstalk Militia of Cumberland County. Returned to Washington County. Married Nancy Hanks 1806. To this union Pres. Lincoln was born. Thomas brought to Ky. from Va. as a child, 1782. *************************** I am a JONES historian and genealogy researcher. My Jones line (1798 -1834) comes from the Meshack Creek area of Monroe Co. Kentucky (Cumberland Co up to 1820). I am researching the Jones ancestors of my GGG Grandfather Lemuel Jones and his twin brother Stephen Jones. Lemuel Jones married a Sarah Kirkpatrick about 1804 / 1805. Stephen Jones married an Elizabeth Black, daughter of Joseph Black. I know these Jones were twins and came from Virginia ... but specifically where in Virginia and who their Mother and Father names are have been researched since 2003 ... with no sure results other than it is believed their father was a William Jones. In my research of landowners near these Jones, I found a Thomas Lincoln had land in the early 1800s joining Meshack Creek / Turkey Neck Bend (Cumberland River) land of Gee / Jones / Kirkpatrick. I AM 99% CERTAIN THIS THOMAS LINCOLN IS NOT THE "FATHER" OF PRESIDENT ABRAHAM LINCOLN! Hence, I believe the info on the website: http://www.burkesville.com/chamber/location.html is wrong. As is: http://www.burkesville.com/html/area_history.html Also wrong is: http://kentucky.gov/kyhs/hmdb/MarkerSearch.aspx?mode=County&county=29 And this Historical Marker: http://www.burkesville.com/html/historical_landmarks.html This Thomas Lincoln (born about 1780 in KY and died 1844 in IN) This Tomas Lincoln married about 1799 his neighbor Martha Patsy Gee (born 2/21/1782 in VA), daughter of Jesse Gee. In Cumberland Co KY, this Thomas Lincoln lived right next to his father, Hannaniah Lincoln. These Lincolns moved from Cumberland Co Kentucky in about 1810 to Ohio and later to Indiana. They had 10 children. In addition, in 1802, Jesse Gee along with Moses Kirkpatrick (my GGGG Grandfather) signed a bond as constable for Thomas Lincoln. This Thomas Lincoln was not the father of President Abraham Lincoln. I can provide more information as needed. I hope the State of Kentucky and Cumberland Co Kentucky officials will investigate and take corrective action. George Jones joneshistorian@yahoo.com PS: I would appreciate any leads regarding the birthplace / birthdate / parents of Lemuel Jones or Stephen Jones.

Jean, No, I didn't know that. I thought that Minton might be Irish but didn't know of a connection to Tipperary. I have not had much luck finding Anna Minton's parents. The closest that I have come is Willis & Serenna (Miller) Minter who are found in the 1850 - 1880 Hardin Co., KY Censuses but I haven't researched that enough to be sure. There is an Ann Minter, 8, in the 1860 Hardin Co., KY Census with Sarena, 40, as HoH. Willis died in 1860. The first time I know for sure that I have Anna (Minton) Carroll is in the 1900 Perry Co., IN Census as HoH, William died 1889. Thanks for your interest. Jane

I want to thank everyone for their help with my W.S. problem. I have sent your responses to Mary and she has printed them. She is in the process of moving, we all know how that goes. When she gets settled so she can work with what you all sent she will let me know if she finds the answer and I will let you know. You have sent a treasure trove of info, lots of sources and great offers to help her look. Thank you all and God Bless Char

Jane, I wasn't sure if you realized that Minton is a name with Tipperary roots as well. All of the families I mentioned are from an area around Nenagh. In the Griffith's Valuation, the name Minton appears there as well. There is also in the 1880 Louisville census a Patrick Minton who is listed as the fire chief. I had family from Nenagh, Cleary's, who worked in the fire department at that time. Jean

Jean, Thanks for the reply. Very good advice for research in Louisville. I have never researched there but it sounds like I should check out their resources and, it's close enough to be a day trip. Looks like I also need to study the history of Louisville with regard to Irish settlements. Patrick Carroll, one of William Carroll's sons moved to New Albany, IN and lived most of his adult life there. I have been trying to locate those descendants - he had five sons so I'm guessing there must be descendants. Thanks for your help, Jane p.s. Steve Greenwell was my oldest son's saxophone teacher. A very patient man.

Hi Jane, Many of my family left Hardin for Louisville, and some for Barren. I don't live in Louisville anymore, but returned this past fall to check out the great library and the cemeteries. I was absolutely stunned by how many graves had Tipperary written on them, and more specifically the surname Carroll. St. Louis Cemetery in particular. The Catholic Cemetery Office has computerized the name, place of birth, and death date for everyone in the local Catholic Cemetery. If you find a specific name, you can ask who bought the plot, and are there others in it? I got a few surprises this way. They are really nice at the office, but very busy. If you have more than one lookup, they request a written letter. St. Louis opened in 1876, prior to that it was St. Michaels for burials, and really there is no record of those, unless you can figure out the church, and go through the LDS. I have one record from the Hardin site, - Martin Hogan, born around 1835 according to the census, married Margaret Carroll in 1859. Charles Warren and a Cunningham were the witnesses. Later, my family lived in a house owned by a Cunningham in Louisville. My Hogan's and O'Meara's were from the same town in Tipperary. I know it involves the McCormack's, which is my main line. In a letter written about 1883, Frank McCormack writes to his brother Andrew that he is working for the Carroll's in Louisville, I think I figured out it was a tailor shop, owned with Brophy's. He kept jokingly referring to Mr.. Carroll as "O'Carroll of Carrollton", who has quite a story attached with him back in Ireland. I also had Howard's move into New Albany, Indiana, just across the bridge from an old area of Irish settlement. I see that you are in Evansville - I have family there still as well - the Greenwell's- and lots of them!! Jean

Hi Jean, My Irish roots (that I know of) are CARROLL and GAYNOR. My g-grandfather was William CARROLL, b.?1837, 1843, 1846, Co. Tipperary, Ireland; d. 1889, Perry Co., IN, buried St. Michael's Catholic Cem, Cannelton, Perry Co., IN. He married Anna MINTON, b. 1853, Hardin Co., KY. I don't have a marriage date or place for them but the first child that I have for them is James Dionysius, b. Oct 1874, probably Hardin Co., KY, christened Dec 1874 at St. Claire Church, Hardin Co., KY. I have not been able to find much more than that on him. I know there were other Carroll's in the Hardin Co. area, including Grayson and Edmonson, but I have not been able to make any connection. My gg-grandfather was George GAYNOR, b. 1832, possibly Co. Longford, Ireland; d. 1898. He married Eleanor Cathernine TERRELL, (d/o Armstead and Margaret (DAVIS) TERRELL), b. 1837, KY; d. 1899. They married 22 Nov, 1853, Hancock Co., KY. Both are buried at the Utility Cem., Hancock Co., KY. I would love to know more about your Co. Tipperary, Ireland roots and the relationship to Hardin Co., KY. For a long time, I have thought that there must have been relatives in the Hardin Co., KY area for William CARROLL to have chosen that as his destination. Jane Wheaton Evansville, IN

-----Original Message----- From: Pat Kramb [mailto:pjkramb@alltel.net] Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2006 12:18 PM To: 'KYHARDIN-list@rootsweb.com' Subject: CALLAHAN-OMEARA-HOGAN-CARROLL-OBRIEN-SMITH-WELCH-MCCORMAC-HICKEY-GARVEY- MAHER-BOLAND-SULLIVAN Hello, I have joined the list to further research a group of my family that originated in Tipperary, Ireland, and are all found together later in Hardin. Some of these families appear in the 1870 census as railroad workers. I have traced some from Ontario, Canada. One of the earliest was Ignatius O'Brien, who is listed in an 1800 tax list for the area in Hardin. I have records from Canada, and Hardin County that show the families intermarrying for generations. Is there anyone else with Irish roots on the list? Thank you for any help, Jean

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Denissoff, Denisov Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/2AB.2ACI/3144.1.1 Message Board Post: I recently purchased this book published in 1979 and authored by Basile A. Denissoff. Unfortunately there is no index. I think it would be an excellent resource for Denissoff family researchers. Please contact me if you have an interest in this book. Kathy Wieland Kathy@craftsbykathy.com PS The forward of the book says that Elia Denisov emigrated to Paris and westernized his name to Elie Denissoff.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/2AB.2ACI/5165 Message Board Post: Looking for the Obit. of Jennie Barlow who died May 16, 1923 at age 88, in Hardin, Hart Co.

Hi -- It's me again. In the 1880 census, Edward Barfield is listed as 5 years old. His parents are listed as William (Ohio) and Mary (ILL). Hannah Milward is living with them and she's listed as NY again. Her parents are always listed as being born in Mass. God bless Deanie -------Original Message------- From: LEE CHARLOTTE BEYER Date: 07/09/06 16:53:54 To: KYHARDIN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [KYHARDIN] Follow up on "what does W.S. mean" in place of birth space I sent out an SOS yesterday asking what W.S. meant when used for the place of birth. You have all been so wonderful. I contacted Mary and she is in the process of moving and is having trouble finding the census this was on. But she sent me what she could find and I am copying it to this email. If she finds the census she will send it to me. I hope this helps. God Bless Char labecaly@msn.com Mary's email follows: Doggone it anyway. I am moving, and stuff is packed. I am frantically searching for that ONE paper. I am so disorganized. This is what I have found so far. (I can't find the original paper, but I will eventually.) My husband died in 2001, and this is his family. Paskel Conrad Barfield (He went by Conrad) Father:Edward Barfield b.1881 in Ohio Mother:Florence Ware b.1883 in MO. Grandfather: William Barfield b.1846 in Ohio Grandmother Anna Millward b.circa 1858 Gr. Grandmother Hannah Millward b.1823 W.S. (another census says N.Y.)She died in Saint Louis,MO. in 1892. Her death Cert is spelled "Millard" which is incorrect. She is buried in Bethany Cemetery in Saint Louis MO. No grave marker.No Sexton. Gr.Grandfather William Barfield b.1823 in Miss. I have another question. On a Baptismal Cert. another of Conrad's grandmothers was a witness at the Baptism of the children. Her name was Ellen Dora (Harris) Ware. She said that she was born on 1854 in Owasco Sullivan Co.Missouri. I can't find "Owasco" anywhere, let alone Missouri. I will diligently look for the census that I need and let you all know. Thanks for your patience. ==== KYHARDIN Mailing List ==== To unsubscribe from this list, send ONLY the word UNSUBSCRIBE to the utility address KYHARDIN-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM If you are trying to unsubscribe from the Digest list, use the same utility address but change the -L- to a -D- ============================== Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx