Does anyone know more about John Grimes and Elizabeth Wise mentioned below? Thank you. Jude Grimes, John married Elizabeth Wise, 1796 Harding County, KY.

Sorry got my B names mixed up I'm looking for John Bruner who got the land Grant in Hardin Co. KY Does anyone have anything on this.

Hi list: Seeking parents for my gg-grandfather, Thomas SHELTON born abt 1813. He may have been "S. Thomas Shelton". He wed Elisabeth ALLEN of NC in 1835 in Patrick Co VA. So far, no record of birth or parents for him. Thomas and Elisabeth had children: 1835-1853 Josiah, William, Mary, James P, Charles Madison, Sarah E, Lucinda, Peter , Susan R, Martha A, Samuel and George W. Thank you. Debbie

I have information that John Brady got a land grant in Hardin Co., but can't locate anything on this does someone know anything that would help? Thanks

Melissa, Below is a chart of the descendants of Charles Mills & Eleanor Vessells. Most of my information on this line comes from the St John the Baptist church records, many of which I have copies of here at home. I have too many additiions and variances from what you posted to comment on each one so just ask away and I will try to clarify where we are different. Much of the first two generations is the same. I have 7 generations for this line in some cases but the full chart is 17 pages and too much to send in an e-mail and includes too many living folks who I don't like to post to the internet in general. Bob Alvey Descendants of Charles Mills Generation No. 1 1. Charles1 Mills He married Eleanor Vessels May 03, 1815 in Washington Co, KY, daughter of James Vessels and Unknown. She was born Abt. 1785. More About Charles Mills and Eleanor Vessels: Marriage: May 03, 1815, Washington Co, KY Children of Charles Mills and Eleanor Vessels are: + 2 i. Susan Sara2 Mills, born February 27, 1817 in KY; died September 10, 1885 in Hardin Co, KY. 3 ii. Elizabeth Mills, born Abt. 1827; died Aft. 1880. She married Stephen D Martin May 14, 1848 in Hardin Co, KY; born Abt. 1824; died Abt. 1859. More About Stephen Martin and Elizabeth Mills: Marriage: May 14, 1848, Hardin Co, KY Generation No. 2 2. Susan Sara2 Mills (Charles1) was born February 27, 1817 in KY, and died September 10, 1885 in Hardin Co, KY. She married George H Vessels November 23, 1835 in Hardin Co, KY, son of Benjamin Vessels and Ann Drury. He was born June 07, 1813 in Marion Co, KY, and died June 11, 1898 in Hardin Co, KY. More About Susan Sara Mills: Burial: St John the Baptist Catholic Cemetery, Rineyville, KY More About George H Vessels: Burial: St John the Baptist Catholic Cemetery, Rineyville, KY More About George Vessels and Susan Mills: Marriage: November 23, 1835, Hardin Co, KY Children of Susan Mills and George Vessels are: + 4 i. Charles Henry3 Vessels, born June 02, 1837 in Hardin Co, KY; died 1918 in Hardin Co, KY. + 5 ii. Lucinda Vessels, born Bef. May 05, 1839 in Hardin Co, KY. + 6 iii. Nancy Elizabeth Vessels, born Bef. August 03, 1840 in Meade Co, KY; died May 07, 1921 in Marion Co, KY. + 7 iv. Malvina Vessels, born 1842 in KY. + 8 v. George Ambrose Vessels, born 1847 in Hardin Co, KY; died January 16, 1925 in Hardin Co, KY. Generation No. 3 4. Charles Henry3 Vessels (Susan Sara2 Mills, Charles1) was born June 02, 1837 in Hardin Co, KY, and died 1918 in Hardin Co, KY. He married Cora Elizabeth Schermahorn. She was born 1860, and died 1911 in Hardin Co, KY. More About Charles Henry Vessels: Burial: St John the Baptist Catholic Cemetery, Rineyville, KY More About Cora Elizabeth Schermahorn: Burial: St John the Baptist Catholic Cemetery, Rineyville, KY Children of Charles Vessels and Cora Schermahorn are: 9 i. George Simpson4 Vessels, born 1883 in Hardin Co, KY; died 1910 in Hardin Co, KY. More About George Simpson Vessels: Burial: St John the Baptist Catholic Cemetery, Rineyville, KY 10 ii. Eleanor Vessels, born June 29, 1889 in Hardin Co, KY. 11 iii. Margaret Alice Vessels, born March 29, 1891 in Hardin Co, KY. 12 iv. John Alonzo "Lonnie" Vessels, born March 27, 1893 in Hardin Co, KY; died 1913 in Hardin Co, KY. More About John Alonzo "Lonnie" Vessels: Burial: St John the Baptist Catholic Cemetery, Rineyville, KY 13 v. Joseph Carrol Vessels, born August 11, 1894 in Hardin Co, KY. 5. Lucinda3 Vessels (Susan Sara2 Mills, Charles1) was born Bef. May 05, 1839 in Hardin Co, KY. She married George William Brown February 05, 1861 in Meade Co, KY, son of James Brown and Sarah Vessels. He was born 1842 in KY. More About George Brown and Lucinda Vessels: Marriage: February 05, 1861, Meade Co, KY Children of Lucinda Vessels and George Brown are: 14 i. Charles Ambrose4 Brown, born November 25, 1871 in Hardin Co, KY. 15 ii. Joseph Victor Brown, born May 19, 1873 in Hardin Co, KY. 16 iii. William Henry Brown, born April 17, 1878 in Hardin Co, KY. 17 iv. George Cascell Brown, born Abt. October 03, 1869 in Hardin Co, KY. 6. Nancy Elizabeth3 Vessels (Susan Sara2 Mills, Charles1) was born Bef. August 03, 1840 in Meade Co, KY, and died May 07, 1921 in Marion Co, KY. She married William E Vessels February 15, 1860 in Meade Co, KY, son of Joseph Vessels and Malinda Abell. He was born Bef. February 08, 1841 in Meade Co, KY, and died March 07, 1917 in Hardin Co, KY. More About Nancy Elizabeth Vessels: Burial: St John the Baptist Catholic Cemetery, Rineyville, KY More About William E Vessels: Burial: St John the Baptist Catholic Cemetery, Rineyville, KY More About William Vessels and Nancy Vessels: Marriage: February 15, 1860, Meade Co, KY Children of Nancy Vessels and William Vessels are: 18 i. Mary Frances4 Vessels, born Abt. 1860. She married James Kenrick Ryan February 13, 1877 in Hardin Co, KY. More About James Ryan and Mary Vessels: Marriage: February 13, 1877, Hardin Co, KY 19 ii. Susanna S Vessels, born 1864 in Meade Co, KY; died June 29, 1928. She married Charles William French July 13, 1879 in Hardin Co, KY; born Bef. October 19, 1858 in Hardin Co, KY; died 1931 in South Bend, IN. More About Charles French and Susanna Vessels: Marriage: July 13, 1879, Hardin Co, KY 20 iii. Joanna Justina Vessels, born December 19, 1869 in Hardin Co, KY. 21 iv. William Bryant Vessels, born October 04, 1872 in Hardin Co, KY; died December 30, 1961 in Louisville, Jefferson Co, KY. He married Mary Celestia Greenwell; born March 24, 1868 in KY; died June 01, 1945 in Hardin Co, KY. More About William Bryant Vessels: Burial: January 02, 1962, St Patrick Catholic Cemetery, Fort Knox, KY 22 v. Virginia May Vessels, born February 04, 1875 in Hardin Co, KY. She married Will French. 23 vi. Sarah U Vessels, born March 27, 1877 in Hardin Co, KY. 24 vii. Charles Augustus Vessels, born March 30, 1880 in Hardin Co, KY. He married Minnie Laing. 7. Malvina3 Vessels (Susan Sara2 Mills, Charles1) was born 1842 in KY. She married William M Brown April 09, 1861 in Meade Co, KY, son of James Brown and Sarah Vessels. He was born 1824 in KY. More About William Brown and Malvina Vessels: Marriage: April 09, 1861, Meade Co, KY Children of Malvina Vessels and William Brown are: 25 i. Columbia Elizabeth4 Brown, born 1888 in Hardin Co, KY. 26 ii. James William Brown, born March 18, 1890 in Hardin Co, KY. 27 iii. Thomas Lonzo Brown, born February 20, 1892 in Hardin Co, KY. 28 iv. Louisa Ellen Brown, born January 01, 1876 in Hardin Co, KY. 29 v. James Henry Brown, born April 11, 1877 in Hardin Co, KY. 30 vi. Melvina Ligorio Brown, born March 04, 1882 in Hardin Co, KY. 8. George Ambrose3 Vessels (Susan Sara2 Mills, Charles1) was born 1847 in Hardin Co, KY, and died January 16, 1925 in Hardin Co, KY. He married Dionysia Ellen Duffy January 31, 1871 in Hardin Co, KY. She was born 1854, and died 1939 in Hardin Co, KY. More About George Ambrose Vessels: Burial: St John the Baptist Catholic Cemetery, Rineyville, KY More About Dionysia Ellen Duffy: Burial: St John the Baptist Catholic Cemetery, Rineyville, KY More About George Vessels and Dionysia Duffy: Marriage: January 31, 1871, Hardin Co, KY Children of George Vessels and Dionysia Duffy are: 31 i. Mary Lula4 Vessels, born December 29, 1871 in Hardin Co, KY. She married Charles C English. 32 ii. Cora Rose Vessels, born July 14, 1874 in Hardin Co, KY. She married James Adrian French. 33 iii. Agusta Vessels, born February 21, 1876 in Hardin Co, KY. 34 iv. Horace G Vessels, born 1877; died March 17, 1969 in Grayson Co, KY. 35 v. Hattie Florence Vessels, born April 21, 1879 in Hardin Co, KY. 36 vi. Robert Ambrose Vessels, born February 14, 1881 in Hardin Co, KY. 37 vii. Joseph Flaget Vessels, born June 20, 1883 in Hardin Co, KY; died February 28, 1949 in Hardin Co, KY. He married Josie Elizabeth Vessels 1916 in Hardin Co, KY; born April 05, 1896 in Hardin Co, KY; died April 03, 1960 in Hardin Co, KY. More About Joseph Flaget Vessels: Burial: St James Catholic Cemtery, Elizabethtown, KY More About Josie Elizabeth Vessels: Burial: St James Catholic Cemtery, Elizabethtown, KY More About Joseph Vessels and Josie Vessels: Marriage: 1916, Hardin Co, KY 38 viii. Henry Oscar Vessels, born October 13, 1890 in Hardin Co, KY. He married Carrie Gertrude Peak; born July 24, 1891 in Hardin Co, KY. 39 ix. William Oliver Vessels, born October 13, 1890 in Hardin Co, KY. 40 x. Jesse Carman Cornelius Vessels, born May 03, 1894 in Hardin Co, KY.

Here is what I have and the source (none of which have I independently verified: Descendants of Charles Mills Generation No. 1 1. Charles1 Mills He married Ellender Vessells (Source: Joseph M. Kendall (jmkendall@juno.com).) 03 May 1815 in Washington Co, KY (Source: (1) adidas [lronan@mail.lig.bellsouth.net]., (2) Stephent Barr sbarr@bellsouth.net., (3) Robert Alvey bobalvey@juno.com BobcatBob@aol.com.), daughter of James Vessells and Unknown. She was born Abt. 1785. Child of Charles Mills and Ellender Vessells is: + 2 i. Susanna Sara2 Mills, born 27 February 1817 in KY; died 10 September 1885 in Hardin Co, KY. Generation No. 2 2. Susanna Sara2 Mills (Charles1) (Source: Robert Alvey bobalvey@juno.com BobcatBob@aol.com.) was born 27 February 1817 in KY (Source: (1) adidas [lronan@mail.lig.bellsouth.net]., (2) Robert Alvey bobalvey@juno.com BobcatBob@aol.com.), and died 10 September 1885 in Hardin Co, KY (Source: Robert Alvey bobalvey@juno.com BobcatBob@aol.com.). She married George H. Vessels (Source: Shelly Farabaugh shellyfarabaugh@hotmail.com.) 21 November 1835 in Elizabethtown, Hardin Co, KY (Source: (1) Shelly Farabaugh shellyfarabaugh@hotmail.com., (2) Joseph M. Kendall (jmkendall@juno.com).), son of Benjamin Vessells and Ann Drury. He was born 07 June 1813 in Marion Co, KY (Source: (1) adidas [lronan@mail.lig.bellsouth.net]., (2) Shelly Farabaugh shellyfarabaugh@hotmail.com., (3) Robert Alvey bobalvey@juno.com BobcatBob@aol.com.), and died 11 June 1898 in Hardin Co, KY (Source: Robert Alvey bobalvey@juno.com BobcatBob@aol.com.). Children of Susanna Mills and George Vessels are: 3 i. Charles Henry3 Vessels, born 1837. 4 ii. Lucinda Vessels, born Abt. 1839 (Source: Steve Barr, Louisville, KY.). She married George W. Brown (Source: Steve Barr, Louisville, KY.) 05 February 1861 in Meade Co, KY (Source: Steve Barr, Louisville, KY.); born Abt. 1842. + 5 iii. Elizabeth Vessels, born 1840 in Meade Co, KY. 6 iv. George Ambrose Vessels, born 1842 (Source: Steve Barr, Louisville, KY.). He married Diresa Ellen Martin 19 January 1871 in Hardin Co, KY (Source: Steve Barr, Louisville, KY.). 7 v. Malvina Vessels, born Abt. 1843 (Source: Steve Barr, Louisville, KY.). She married William H. Brown (Source: Steve Barr, Louisville, KY.) 09 April 1861 in Meade Co, KY (Source: Steve Barr, Louisville, KY.). Generation No. 3 5. Elizabeth3 Vessels (Susanna Sara2 Mills, Charles1) (Source: adidas [lronan@mail.lig.bellsouth.net].) was born 1840 in Meade Co, KY (Source: adidas [lronan@mail.lig.bellsouth.net].). She married William Vessells (Source: Steve Barr, Louisville, KY.), son of Alexander Vessells and Unknown. He was born 1840 in Meade Co, KY (Source: adidas [lronan@mail.lig.bellsouth.net].). Child of Elizabeth Vessels and William Vessells is: + 8 i. Susan4 Vessells, born 1864; died 1928. Generation No. 4 8. Susan4 Vessells (Elizabeth3 Vessels, Susanna Sara2 Mills, Charles1) (Source: Alta Wesley ALTAWesley@aol.com.) was born 1864 (Source: Alta Wesley ALTAWesley@aol.com.), and died 1928 (Source: Alta Wesley ALTAWesley@aol.com.). She married Charles William French in KY, son of Charles French and Lucinda Wise. He was born 19 October 1858 in Hardin Co, KY (Source: Alta Wesley ALTAWesley@aol.com.), and died 1931 in South Bend, IN (Source: Alta Wesley ALTAWesley@aol.com.). Child of Susan Vessells and Charles French is: 9 i. Lawrence E5 French (Source: Alta Wesley ALTAWesley@aol.com.). Melissa Thompson Alexander Edmonds, WA USA mailto:ma.da@gte.net -----Original Message----- From: Laurie Ronan [mailto:jronan@bellsouth.net] Sent: Friday, June 16, 2000 2:41 AM To: KYHARDIN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [KYHARDIN] VESSELS, MILLS Susan Sarah Mills born 2/27/1817 to Charles MILLS and Elender VESSELS in Washington County. Susan married George H. VESSELS in Hardin County and had children Elizabeth, Charles(1837) and Lucinda (1838). Seeking any info on these Mills and Vessels. ============================== Free Web space. ANY amount. ANY subject. RootsWeb's Freepages put you in touch with millions. http://cgi.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/acctform.cgi

Susan Sarah Mills born 2/27/1817 to Charles MILLS and Elender VESSELS in Washington County. Susan married George H. VESSELS in Hardin County and had children Elizabeth, Charles(1837) and Lucinda (1838). Seeking any info on these Mills and Vessels.

Re the young children sometimes found in other families in the census records, and families with similar names nearby. Some of these are there to help the parents with young children, or to help with work on the farms. Sometimes very large families would farm their children out in this manner. Sometimes, the parents of the children are deceased, and these families have taken them in. This happened a lot, and there were a variety of reasons for it. Donna

Seeking informaiton on the families of William Jordan and his daughter Elizabeth who married John Arnold on Sep 06 1814 in Hardin Co. KY. They all migrated to what is now Wabash Co, Il abt 1814-15. Will correspond and exchange information.

Hi Jude, For Hardin County Books go to www.aths.com Ancestral trails historical society. Gene Bird ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com

In a message dated 6/14/00 09:52:06 PM !!!First Boot!!!, EVILSIZER3 writes: << debbie, what is your last name? >> Hello Evil: Thanks but not thanks..I've changed my mind! Ciao

In a message dated 6/14/00 03:15:35 PM L3532 writes: << Hello Debbie.................Give us a date and place and we can begin checking our books................Regards, Larry >> Thanks!!...I am seeking any male Shelton born abt 1812-1813 in this family. I'm told that my gg-grandfather, Thomas or S. Thomas SHELTON born 1813 is of this family and momre specifically of Henry and Mary's line. Thomas married Elisabeth Allen of NC in 1835 and lived in VA. Below is the family of Henry and Mary SHELTON. 4. PETER SHELTON of Louisa Co. b. about 1734; d. in Louisa Co. 1801 and left will there (Will Bk. 5 P- 126) m. FRANCES NUCKOLS dau. of SAMULE NUCKOLS and no doubt re- lated to CHARLES NUCKOLS, neighbor prior to 1778 of THOMAS SHELTON (Deed Bk. E. p.514). Their children were. (1) SAMUEL SHELTON b. Nov.3,1758; m. May 22,1781 JENNY HENDERSON: went to Mercer Co. KY.. to live; given power of attorney Nov. 1,1796 by DAVID SHELTON of Caswell Co. N.C. to sell his Madison Co. Ky. land and 50 acres on Cumberland River. (Bk. 3 Po 204 Mercer Co.) (2) ELIZABETH SHELTON m. Sept.13,1778 JOHN ATKINSON. (3) PETER SHELTON b. July 23,1763 (Douglas Register) never Mar. (4) LUCY SHELTON b. Deo.3,1763, m. Sept.7,1784 JOHN AUSTIN (5) FRANCES SHELTON b. July 5,1766; m. Sept.17,1790 JOHN HODGES (Record in Gooch- land Co.) ,, (6) THOMSS SHELTON b. Mar.2~1768; m. Sept.lO,1792 MILLEY ATKINS0N (7) JUDITH SHELTON b. 0et.8,1769; m. 1788 MAGER PARRISH (8) HENRY SHELTON m. MARY snd went to live in Scott Co. KY. (9) DAVID SHELTON m. Nov.7,1786 HENRIETTA THOMPSON in Louisa Co. and after hie father's death went to live in Nelson Co. KY. ........ (10) SUSANNAH SHELTON never married, left her interest to her brother THOMAS and sisters FRANCES and MERINDA. (11) MERINDA SHELTON m. JOSEPH ATKINSON and lived in Hanover Co. Va. Cut out of her father's will because she had not obeyed him. (12) MARY (POLLY) SHELTON m. 1790 Wm. WEST. THANKS so much!! Debbie

I am looking for other researchers of the surnames HOBACK, HOBAUGH, HOBACH, HOBOUGH, and STEPHENS. Ima J. Stephens ____________________________________________________________________ Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com.

Hi Jude, I do have one book that covers some Hardin County folks. It is the St. Clare Catholic Church records. Baptisms, confirmations, christenings, and marriages, but no burials from 1813 to 1899. Glad to look up anything for you. Deborah

I'm in the middle of transcribing selected pages of the 1850 Hardin County census. In several cases a family lists a non-family member child. In most cases a family with the childs surname is found close by. Can anyone explain why a child might be listed with a neighboring family? I usually assume an elderly women within a family with a differant surname is probably a mother-in-law, but can't figure out what relationship a child might be. By the way, I plan on sharing my transcribed information when complete.

Could someone tell me if tell are books (Census, Marriages, Family Histories, Etc.) available on HARDIN COUNTY, KY.? And, if there are.....where do I write to get copies of such? Thanks, Jude CLARK-HARRIS-HALL-DICKEY-PRATT-GABBERT-LUTES-DEACON-WELLER-GRIMES-WHEELER-ASH- ROBY-EDMONDSON-HARDY-UNDERWOOD-REED-MILLER-SUGGS-WRIGHT-CLAYTON-IVES-MINOLETTI

Hello, I'm new to this list. Henry SHELTON son of Peter and Frances NUCKOLS married Mary-----?. Who were the children of Henry and Mary SHELTON. I am specifically seeking a son Thomas. Would like to know anything of this family. Thanks Debbie Shelton Wood

Dear Hardin County Experts, Have just been going over the tax records of early Hardin County. I have some questions: 1. Can anyone explain to me the "Counties" column of this record? Does it list the name of the county that the person actually lives in?... Like perhaps he owns land in Hardin County, but he lives in Mercer County? (Looking at James Brown, in 1795, I see that the county is Mercer (?) or Mason )?) or Nelson (?), Water Course is Crooked Creek). For most of the people, it lists Hardin County, but others have Green, Nelson, Jefferson, etc. 2. In the "For Whom The Land Was Entered" column, what can we assume if the name seems to related? For instance, Patrick Brown is taxed (1797) for land that was entered under the names of a) William Brown b) James Brown c) Robert Goode. I assume Robert Goode is probably not related...and James and William are. Of course, I know a little about the famous Brown brothers...Patrick, James, William and perhaps a John. If brother James was killed in the battle of Blue Licks in 1782, does that mean he can not have been the James Brown in this instance? Or is it possible that he bought the land ("entered" the land) before Hardin County was in existance and before he died? Or James is a father to these guys? Or ?? I have ordered the deeds (have the index) and suppose this will be clearer when I see them. But if anyone out there has an answer to my questions, I would be grateful. Kathie searching the James Brown who is the father to Joseph Brown, who married Susannah Carter in 1808 in Hardin County, KY.

In a message dated 6/9/00 7:17:50 PM Central Daylight Time, LWKoenig@aol.com writes: << n a message dated 6/9/2000 7:38:32 PM Eastern Daylight Time, KYHARDIN-D-request@rootsweb.com writes: << Would anyone have any information on the following Graham"s from Hardin County Kentucky. I found this while searching at the library tonight in a hardin county cemetery book. Im still trying to find the parents of Turner Graham from hardin county Ky>> There is a Turner Graham (b. 5 June 1855, d. 20 Dec 1916) buried in East Rhudes Creek Baptist Church Cemetery in Hardin Co., Ky. Surety and witness at the marriage of Artimus Smith and Delpha Graham in Hardin Co. was a Turner Graham but this marriage took place in Oct. 1829. It is likely that this was the father or grandfather of your Turner Graham. This information was found in publications from the Ancestral Trails Historical Society. They have a wealth of information on Hardin County as well as nearby counties.

In a message dated 6/9/2000 7:38:32 PM Eastern Daylight Time, KYHARDIN-D-request@rootsweb.com writes: << Would anyone have any information on the following Graham"s from Hardin County Kentucky. I found this while searching at the library tonight in a hardin county cemetery book. Im still trying to find the parents of Turner Graham from hardin county Ky>> Laura, I have nothing on the parents of Turner Graham, but are you familiar with the two excerpts on a Turner Graham in "Two Centuries in Elizabethtown and Hardin County, Kentucky" by Daniel McClure? Linda Koenig Louisville, KY