In a message dated 9/13/2000 1:06:38 PM Eastern Daylight Time, info@aths.com writes: << Ancestral Trails Historical Society ATHS Webmaster has posted highlights from the Fall 2000 issue of Ancestral News at our website (www.aths.com) An updated booklist is also posted. Paul Urbahns President ATHS >>

To all interested in obtaining copies of the upcoming Ft. Knox show on KET, I received the following information from the Ancestral Trail Historical Society, so I thought I'd pass it on: <<The cost of each half hour program will sell for $7.95. Shipping and handling will run $5.00. The entire tape and handling will cost at $12.95. To combine both Fort Knox and Route 31W on one tape or as two separate tapes when purchased at the same time will be $19.95, including shipping and handling. Video tapes are available from: Cory Lash Productions, Inc., 912 State Street, Suite 201, Bowling Green, KY 42101. (270) 843-8300. Email address: LashFilms@aol.com>> Hope this helps all who wish to obtain a copy. I know that I do! Deborah

Forgive me if this is improper. But, since there was questions regarding this show, I wanted to pass on the information. There is information regarding the tapes below. If the list owner would address me privately, if this is inappropriate, I would appreciate it. Again, I apologize if this is improper. Warm Regards, Betty -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Documentary on KET examines unique history of Ft Knox and displaced communities From: "Ancestral Trails Historical Society" <info@aths.com> Ancestral Trails Historical Society Ancestral Trails Members In Action: Documentary on KET examines unique history of Ft. Knox and the communities it displaced Known throughout the world as the site that guards the United States’ gold depository, Ft. Knox is a place with a history as rich as its holdings. Over the course of five decades and two World Wars, as the necessity for military training facilities heightened, Ft. Knox grew to its present size of 100,000 acres or 170 square miles. Yet as the army facility expanded, once thriving communities—situated in the heart of some of the state’s choicest land—were lost. The Land Called . . . Fort Knox, airing Thursday, Sept. 14 at 10:30/9:30 p.m. CT on KET and Saturday, Sept. 16 at 10:30/9:30 p.m. CT on KET2, documents Ft. Knox’s growth and explores the history of the many Kentucky communities, including Stithton, Garnettsville and Pitts Point, that dotted the land before the base’s major periods of expansion in 1918, 1940-41 and 1951-52. Almost nothing of these small towns remains except their cemeteries. Yet, producer-director Cory Lash illustrates how the spirit of these communities survives even today through local citizens—such as 99-year-old Agnes Rice—who visit gravesites of their relatives on Memorial Day. On this one day each year, the army base is opened to the public so that descendants may visit the lands that their parents and grandparents once called home. Several ATHS members appear or are heard in the program, including Gary Kempf, Agnes Rice, Clifford Culver, and the voice of Paul Urbahns. Producer Cory Lash is making copies of this video and the previous special on US31W, in which numerous members appeared for sale on VHS for the following complete with a library style hardcover case. The cost of each half hour program will sell for $7.95. Shipping and handling will run $5.00. The entire tape and handling will cost at $12.95. To combine both Fort Knox and Route 31W on one tape or as two separate tapes when purchased at the same time will be $19.95, including shipping and handling. Video tapes are available from: Cory Lash Productions, Inc., 912 State Street, Suite 201, Bowling Green, KY 42101. (270) 843-8300. Email address: LashFilms@aol.com ______________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, write to aths-unsubscribe@listbot.com Start Your Own FREE Email List at http://www.listbot.com/links/joinlb

Thanks to Laura for posting this. I believe there is a typo. It should be Col. Andrew HYNES not HELM. >About the fall of 1779 and winter of 1780, the early settlers were CAPTAIN THOMAS HELM, COLONEL ANDREW HELM and SAMUEL HAYCRAFT, each of these persons built fort with block houses. The forts were stockades, constructed of split timber---then deemed sufficient for defense against the Indian rifles. The sites were well selected, each on elevated ground, commanding >springs of never failing and excellent water. John H. Cashman, 5-g-grandson of Thomas HELM

THE HISTORY OF ELIZABETHTOWN CHAPTER II Written By Hon. SAMUEL HAYCRAFT 1869 Typed as published in the Elizabethtown New, Elizabethtown, Ky March 15, 1889 Edition By Laura Frost Wright CHAPTER II (taken from March 15th, 1889 Edition of the Elizabethtown News) Church going folks of the present day who make it a point to appear in their best attire at the public religious services might feel some curiosity to know how our ancestors appeared on such occasions and I hope they will not blush at the description. I received my information from JACOB VANMETER, who was the younger VANMETER in the original constitution of the church. He died a few years since at the advanced age of about ninety-five, having been a Baptist eight-four years. They then had no house of worship. In the summer time they worshipped in the open air, in the winter time they met in the round log cabins with dirt floors, as there were no mills and no plank to make a floor. A few who had aspired to be a little aristocratic split timber and made puncheon floors. The men dressed as Indians , leather leggins and moccasins adorned their feet and legs. Hats made of splinters rolled in buffalo wool and sewed together with deer sinews or buckskin whang, shirts of buckskin, and hunting shirts of the same, some went the whole Indian costume and wore the breech-clouts. The females wore a coarse cloth made of buffalo wool, underware of dressed doe skin, sun bonnets something after the fashion of men"s hats and the never failing moccasin for the feet in winter, in the summer time, all went barefooted. When they met for preaching or prayer, the men sat with their trusty rifles at their sides, and as they had to watch as well as pray, a faithful sentinel keeping a lookout for the lurking Indian. But it so happened that their services were never seriously interrupted, except on one occasion. One of the watchers came to the door hole during a sermon and endeavored by signs and winks to apprise the people that something was wrong---not being ezactly understood, a person within winked at the messenger, as much as to say, don't interrupt us. " But the case being urgent, the outsideman exclaimed " none of your winking and blinking--I tell you the Indian s are about" That was understood, the meeting was closed, and military defense organized. Now, gentle and fair reader, I beseech you, not to blush or be ashamed of your forerunners, they were the chosen of God and nature"s nobility. There was no distinction or turning up one"s noses in that day, each was his other"s equal, they were brothers and so esteemed and loved each other. No burdened field of corn, no waving fields of wheat came to harvest, no potato crop burrowed the earth. The wild game that roamed the forest was the only dependence the first year, the rifle was indispensible. It was made common cause, food was obtained at the risk of life. The successful hunter lacked nothing. The man who brought down the bufalo, the deer, of bear, divided out and all had plenty. When news reached a fort that Indians were around, all were upon the alert, the men seeing that their weapons were in order, and the women, God bless them, went each to their neighbors and enquired, " have you plenty of meat?" if you have not I have it. " and immediately there was an equal division. The dried venison , called "jerk" was the bread, the fat, juicy bear, the esculent, the bulky buffalo, the substance, and the turkey the dessert, nobody had the dyspepala and all had good teeth, but soon the brawny arm leveled the forest, fields were opened and a plenty of the substantials of life soon blessed their labors. Often has the writer heard old people talk with great fondness of old FORTING times as a green spot in their history--they loved to dwell upon the scenes of early trials and dangers, when men and women were all true hearted and no selfishness. At an early period CHRISTOPHER BUSH settled in the valley, in what is now the boundry of Elizabethtown, He was a German descent, a stirring, industrious man, and had a large family of sons and daughters. The sons were stawart men, of great muscular power, there was no back out in them, never shunned a fight when they considered it necessary to engage in it, and nobody ever heard one cry out "enough" The most of the family left Kentucky. One of the daughters married THOMAS LINCOLN, the father of the late president, ABRAHAM LINCOLN, who was the son of a former wife, and she had the principal care of the rearing and educating the future president. She was an excellent woman. CHRISTOPHER BUSH, Jr. the youngest son of the original CHRISTOPHER BUSH, remained and died in Kentucky. He was a good citizen and sucessful farmer. He reared a large family and paid more attention to the education of his children than any other member of his family, and it turns out that his labor was not in vain. His eldest son MARTIN M. BUSH, Esq. is one of the best surveyors in the state. The Hon. W.D.P. BUSH is a lawyer of considerable distinction, he has frequently been in the Legislature of Kentucky and was in some degree a leader of the Democratic party, and is now reporter of the decisions of the Court of Appeals. Two other sons, ROBERT Y. BUSH and SQUIRE H. BUSH, are lawyers of promise. One of the daughters was married to Col. MARTIN H. COFER. Col. COLFER, son of THOMAS COFER, was born in the vicinity of this town, and under adverse circumstances commenced the study of law, and soon after entered upon a lucrative and successful practice at the Elizabethtown bar. At the commencement of the late civil war, he took sides with the Confederates and commanded a regiment throughout the war, and was regarded as an able and gallant commander and now bear upon his person some receibis that will accompany him through life. As soon as the war was ended , having passed through many of the most terrible battles of that disastrous war he returned to Elizabethtown, having lost all but his honor, and immediately applied himself assiduously to his profession, gracefully submitting himself to the laws and the powers that be, in such a manner as gave him the esteem of all parties, acknowledging that the wager of battle had decided against sucession. He has since published a valuable work on the decisions of the court of Appeals of kentucky, and is now regarded as one of the best lawyers in Kentucky. to be con"t llfw _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. 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Hello Brown researchers, Thought I would update you on my James Brown and Mary Matchett line. (she born 1749, he about same time). Mary is buried in the Brown & Thomas Cemetery, LaRue Co, KY (online). We do not know where James Brown ended up. James and Samuel Brown were in Nelson County as early as 1785 and James bought land on the Rolling Fork River. By tracking the Hardin Co., KY tax records, I discovered that James and Mary had the following boys: 1. James, Jr, b. 1780, who married Nancy Ash, daughter of Henry Ash and his first wife. They lived and died on the Rolling Fork and James is buried in the Brown & Thomas Cemetery in LaRue County, KY. 2. John, b. 1781. Believe he might have married Anna Cotten. NFI If he married Anna Cotten, this is Mary Ann Shoemaker's line. 3. Joseph, b. 1785, married Susannah Carter in 1808 in Hardin Co., KY. My direct line and I have posted information about him before. They died in Porter Co., IN. These are the girl children of James and Mary: 4. Rachael Brown md John Howell in 1820 in Hardin Co., This was John's second marriage. A bio on a Howell relative gave me Rachael's parents as James and Mary Hatchett. 5. Elizabeth Brown md Henry Ash (his second marriage). They stayed in Larue Co. This is Carolyn Wimp's direct line. 6. Polly Brown md Moses Thomas. They owned property on Rolling Fork and stayed there. 7. Possible daughter: Sarah Brown who married John Jackson. John Jackson was the surety for Rachael Brown and John Howell and John Jackson's other dealings with the Brown family lead us to believe these lines are related. James did not leave a will in Hardin/Nelson/LaRue County that I have found. He bought land for his son James, Jr but I have not discovered yet how he disposed of his own land (and he owned a lot!). Not sure which Samuel Brown is a relative of James: perhaps both? I have not checked the ACTUAL tax records of Nelson Co. I started with the Hardin Co records and only got as far as 1811. It is possible that other sons showed up earlier than 1793, when Hardin Co. records started. It is possible that one Samuel was James' brother and the other was James' son. I would love to correspond with others who are researching this line. Kathie

THE HISTORY OF ELIZABETHTOWN, KY By SAMUEL HAYCRAFT Written in 1869 Typed as published In the ELIZABETHTOWN NEWS March 8, 1989 Edition By Laura Frost Wright Having been requested by you to furnish my recollections of Elizabethtown, I cheerfully comply with your with your request. Although born in it seventy-four years ago, in order to furnish a history of the town and its founders I shall be compelled to draw a little upon tradition, running back to the fall of 1779. In order to give a just idea of the kind of men, their mode of life, &c; who first came to the valley in which the town is now is situated, (my father and mother being among the first, ) enables me to speak with some certainty, as I received it from them. Elizabethtown is situated in Hardin County, on the southern slope of Muldraughs Hill, Severn"s Valley creek, a branch of Nolin, which empties into green River. The town is ten miles south west of the Beech and Rolling Fork of Salt river, forty-two miles from Louisville, by the Louisville and Nashville railroad, and forty-five miles by way of the Louisville and Nashville turnpike road, and those two roads cross at right angles in Elizabethtown. The valley took its name from John Severns, an early adventurer, who being attracted by the beauty of the location, entered land, and gave the name to the creek and valley. The head waters of the valley creek, and Rawling"s fork each about three or four miles long, form a junction in the town, where it takes the name of Severn"s Valley Creek. This beautiful stream, in its course downward, is fed by Shaw's creek, Billy"s creek, East and West Rhode"s creeks, and by numerous never failing springs of limpid water, cool and refreshing. About eight miles below town it disembogues into the stream of the nolin. The whole stream is about twelve miles long. The valley through which it runs varies from two to seven miles wide. The greater part, particularly that portion surrounding the town, was oringinally a dense forest of heavy timber. Poplar, walnut, sugar maple, wild cherry, hackberry, gum,&c; and various other growths, and undergrowths of spice wood, leather wood, & c; indicating the richest soil. The greater portion of this beautiful and fertile valley was taken by JOHN SEVERNS, ANDREW HYNES, JACOB FUNK, CLAUDIUS PAUL RAGUET, OSBURN SPRIGGS, JOHN HANDLEY, JACOB HARRIS, and others not now remembered . It was then in Jefferson county, and belonged to the old mother of States, Virginia--afterwards it was divided and became Nelson county. On the 1st day of June, 1792, Kentucky was made a State by the consent of Virginia; and in 1793 Hardin county was founded, bounded by the Ohio river, Salt river, Rolling fork to Salt lick, striking across the hills to Green River, and down the river to the Ohio, embracing all the counties of Hardin, Meade, Breckenridge, Davies and Ohio, and the great parts of Hart, Grayson and part of Edmonson. About the fall of 1779 and winter of 1780, the early settlers were CAPTAIN THOMAS HELM, COLONEL ANDREW HELM and SAMUEL HAYCRAFT, each of these persons built fort with block houses. The forts were stockades, constructed of split timber---then deemed sufficient for defense against the Indian rifles. The sites were well selected, each on elevated ground, commanding springs of never failing and excellent water. The forts formed a triangle, equi-distant a mile apart. Captain HELM"S fort occupied the hill on which Governor HELM"S residence now stands. Colonel HYNES' was on the elevation now occupied by J.H. BRYAN, formerly by AMBROSE GEOGBEGAN, Sen; and for many years by JOHN H. GEOGBEGAN, Esq. HAYCRAFT"S fort was on the hill above the Cave spring in which the flesh of many a deer, buffalo and bear were preserved for use, as salt in those days were not to be had. There were no other settlements at that time between the falls of the Ohio and Green river. Those forts were subject to frequent attacks by the Indians. The report of a gun at either of these forts was the signal by which the other forts were warned of the danger and summoned to the aid of the beseiged fortress, which was promptly responded to. many were the inroads made by savages upon the infant settlements at that early period. Soon after a hardy set of adventurers came in and settled around the forts, consisting of the MILLERS, VERTREESES, VANMETERS, HARTS, SHAWS, DYES , & c, who assisted in repelling the attacks of the Indians. Many deeds of daring valor were performed by the sturdy pioneers. It cost some blood. HENRY HELM, son of old Captain THOMAS HELM, was killed; also DAN VERTREES, the honored grandfather of Judge W.D. VERTREES, our fellow citizen. DAN VERTREES was a stalwart young man of daring. He with the late Colonel NICHOLAS MILLER and others, were pursuing a band of Indians, MILLER, then young, was tall, slenderly built, as active as a cat, and as fleet as hind, and as brave as Julius Caesar. This company coming upon the Indians, suddenly, a desparate fight ensued, VERTREEs was killed at first fire. A stout warrior seized a white man, wrestled his gun from him and was about to cleve his head with an axe, MILLER at that moment, with a celerity of action which few men could equal, and with a power that few possessed---in the language of John Glenn " snatched the white man from the Indian as he would a chicken from a hawk," and with an equal rapid motion, killed the Indian. This turned the tide and the remaining Indiana fled, leaving several dead on the ground.LLFW MILES HART, while defending his domicile with an open door, springing from side to side, loading and firing, and keeping at bay a band of savages for a considerable length of time, was finally killed, and his wife and two children taken prisoners. It may not be uninteresting to note a circumstance showing the capability of endurance possessed by those early settlers. Mrs. ELIZABETH HART, the widow of MILES HART, was regarded as a very delicate woman for those days. She was enciente when taken a prisoner---in an advanced state. She was burdened with camp kettles and other Indian plunder, they crossed the Ohio river into the Northwestern territory. After journeying a few days, at nightfall, she was compelled to kindle the Indians fires, and then made to go aside and kindle a fire for herself, raking up as best as she could rubbish from under the snow, and there alone, unaided by the kind assistance known to civilized life, was delivered of a son . The squaws then show a little kindness in the morning , by giving her a little water in which a turkey had been boiled . Then cutting a block from a tree, they wrapped a piece of blanket around the new born infant, fastened it to the block, and laid the block upon her back with camp kettles, &c; amd pursued their way, and in the course of a day, waded a river waist deep, and yet strange to tell, she experienced no serious inconvenience but from hard usage and inhuman treatment, the child died at six months old. She lingered in captivity and wretched slavery for several years, until a trading Frenchman at detroit purchased her from the Indinas , and restored her to her relations. She afterwards married and raised a considerable family. BAILEY T. PRICE, Mrs. THOMAS TABB, and Mrs. JOHN TABB, are her grand children, and now live among us. Another instance to show the hardships of the people of those days. On the 25th day of December, 1780, the late BENJAMIN HELM, Esq; then a lad of fourteen years of age, (son of captain THOMAS HELM, ) walked barefooted to the falls of the Ohio (now Louisville) for meal or salt. Mr. HELM , afterwards, lived to an advanced age, over ninety years. He died some years ago, a wealthy and highly esteemed old gentleman , of the old school, having spent a life of sobriety, honesty and industry, having filled the offices of Circuit and County Court Clerks many years, and various other respectable stations, and was justly considered a benefactor in the community, built the Methodist Church here almost unaided and died a member of it--a true christian. _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com.

I want to thank everyone for their response about posting the History of Elizabethtown, By Samuel Haycraft 1869. I will be sending it later tonight. and it will also be on my web site. Sorry, It hasnt taken me so long , but ive had problems with my mail for the last few days. Thanks Laura _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com.

Hello All- This message is for those of you who are on this list and the LaRue Co list. My name is Robert Elliott and I have been so lucky with the contacts I have made in Hardin and LaRue Co's that I would like to offer my services. I live in NJ now and have access to a locally endowed private library. It has wonderful resources there and I will send off a message with what they are at a later date. They cover the years between 1750 to 1800. Anyway, I can make copies of the COMPLETE pension files for the American Revolution. If anyone on this list would like me to do this for them, then I need you to send me the name of the pensioneer, and as much as possible of the following; state served under, location of birth, location of residence after the war, years served, spouses name, and so on. Please send as much data as possible on the pensioneer. Also I can find out if there was a pension made for a certain person if this is not available to you. Like I mentioned, there is a great deal of information and I will let you know at a later date. I will be visiting this library every couple of weeks. Let me know... Regards...Rob

I am still looking for more information on Christopher Bryan MILLER, son of Ernest MILLER (Muller). When Ernest died 1798, his heirs were listed as : Samuel and Caty Miller; Abner and Caty Hugjts; Christopher Miller; Adam and Sarah Miller; Samuel and Peggy Bush; Thomas Miller; Leonard Miller; and John Miller..... I just noticed that Nicholas was not on that list I haven't worked on this line for awhile and hoping there is some new info out there. Sandy Heinrich Sandy Heinrich slwh40@aol.com CHECK OUT MY GENEALOGY SITE http://www.familytreemaker.com/users/h/e/i/Sandra-L-Heinrich/index.html

John Merrifield m Anny Rood (Rude) 1811 Hardin Co, Ky. Is in Hardin Co until Larue Co formed in 1843.. 1840 Cen. Hardin Co, John next door to Samuel Merriifield (md Henrietta J. Johnson 1 Jan 1839 Nelson Co, Ky) and 2 households away from Alexander Merrifield (and #2 wife Mrs Jane Turner). Need to confirm tax lists of Larue Co 1843-1847. Have information that says John Merrifield listed in 1844, next door to Samuel Merrifield (my 2nd GGf) 1845 Tax list, Larue Co: Anny Merrifield next door to Samuel. 1846 Tax list, Larue Co: Anny Merrifield next door to Samuel. 1847 James A. Merrifield next door to Samuel, apparently Anny died between 1846 & 1847 Tax lists; James A. son of John & Anny & brother to my Samuel. 1848 James A. Merrifield m Cephronia Barnett, d/o James, LaRue Co. Need to know where Alexander Merrifield in relationship to Samuel & John after Larue Co is formed. Alexander d 1847, probates in Larue Co. Early Merrifield researchers state that John Merrifield who m Sarah Welsh 1816 Hardin Co is s/o Alexander & Rachel Boone Merrifield. BUT an 1819 land record Hardin Co states John Merrifield JNR & wife Sarah/Sally (both names are given) sold land to Alexander Merrifield with witnesses of James Redman, Lemuel Smith, Fielding Merrifield & Saml Merrifield. We know that Lemuel Smith was son-in-law; Fielding & Samuel were sons. Do not know connection of James Redman. Do know that James Redman was the resident of a house on a lot next to the jail in Hodgenville that was owned by Alexander Merrifield that was next door to the jail on the square in Hodgenville.According to Larue Co records- sold twice by the Merrifield family. Do not know the connect of James Redman to James C. Redman who m Rhuamy/Ru Ann Merrifield, d/o Samuel & Henrietta Johnson Merrifield. Also do not know the connect between Lemuel Smith & Daniel W. Smith who married Mary Elizabeth Merrifiled, also d/o Samuel & Henrietta Johnson Merrifield. Lemuel Smith married Cynthia Merrifield, d/o Alexander & Rachel Boone Merrifield in Hardin Co. Anny Rude Merrifield was the d/o Asher & Elizabeth Rude from Fayette Co, Pa. very early Hardin/Nelson Co. Have some data on the Rude Family that I will share. William Rude, s/o Asher, married Sarah/Sally Kennedy, d/o Thomas Merrifield, (says the record of Hardin Co). Sarah's mother hasn't been heard from for several years & Sarah has been living with William's family (Asher & Elizabeth Rude). Wm Rude & Sarah/Sally Kennedy's descendants end up in Ind (which I have). Thomas Merrifield m Rachel Kennedy 1803 Nelson Co, Ky BUT he would not have been the father of Sally Kennedy (she b before 1803).so Rachel Kennedy would have been married to a Kennedy before her marriage to Thomas Merrifield. Rachel Kennedy Merrifield MAY be the Rachel Merrifield listed in the1830 Cen of Washington Co, Ky. Do not know at this point. Do know that a Thomas Merrifield m Mariah Leshorn 1809 Montgomery Co, TN; is listed in the 1809 Tax list with John & Alexander Merrifield (husband of Rachel Boone Merrifield??). This Thomas shows up in 1825 Tax list of 1825 Hardin Co; by 1826 he is dec'd & Mariah is adm of his estate. Mariah is an ignema also. Hardin Co Mgs lists an 1827 marriage of a Collins man who is under age & his mother Mariah Merrifield gave consent. Another Collins man, of age, also married 1827 in Hardin Co (another son??). A Meriah Merri(y)field appears in the 1850 Cen of Ind (same one??). Since there is other Merrifield, Merryfield, Maryfields in Ind- do not know. Have been unable to sort out the Ind Merrifields because they are both Ky & Ohio Merrifield's. Then there are Merrifield's bound out in Hardin Co. Matilda is bound to Hardin Thomas in 1816; she marries Rev George Lawson Rogers in 1823- the marriage surety is Alexander Merrifield (relationship not given)- yet in the probate of Alexander's estate George L. Rogers & his children by Matilda (who is dec'd) are listed as heirs. I don't think she was a d/o Alexander as listed by early Merrifield researchers, but rather the d/o Thomas Merrifield (a son of Alexander who has been unlisted as a son by early researchers). Too many inconsistancies in early research data to be believed & is unproven by copies of records that I have. Bound out also is John L. Merrifield & Warren J. Merrifield. Can only track Warren J. Merryfield who is 1850 Bullitt Co, Ky; married to Susanna Smith (married Bullit Co). In the 1850 Bullitt co also is John Brockworth Summers (#2 wife Mary Jane Kirkpatrick) & George Lawson Rogers ( #3 wife). John Brockworth Summers sued the estate of Alexander for a share of the estate (and is listed in the probates of Alexander in Larue Co). Any help GREATLY appreciated. Mary Yoder ACC Meade/Bullitt Cos

Bob; It is not a waste to post any item to a list. Most, if not all lists, are archived. One advantage of a list over a web site is that quite a few list subscribers have access only to e-mail and not to web sites. Additionally, e-mail lists are, in my opinion, faster and easier to work with. JerrySanford @ EttersPA ----- Original Message ----- From: <BobcatBob@aol.com> To: <KYHARDIN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2000 3:42 AM Subject: [KYHARDIN] History of Elizabethtown-Samuel Hay > As much as I have enjoyed the two editions you have transcribed (there was an > Alvey in the second one), I really don't think one of these County lists is > the best place to make maximum use of your hard work. There are a number of > places within Rootsweb where all Hardin Co genealogy could be posted and > accessed by all researchers interested in Hardin Co. Why not send Sandi > Gorin an e-mail and see what she recommends. The problem with posting to a > list, eventually they will get deleted and lost for future interested parties > that come along. Check out the Rootsweb Gen Connect pages and see if you > can't find someplace where you can post as you complete our work and it will > stil be there two years from now. I wouldn't worry about the Hardin Co > Hiostorical Society unless the book is copyrighted material. They have had > years to do something and hardly do anything. I am doing that with 5 > cemeteries that I have in various stages of completion. I have seen people > post cemetery data to a list and it always seems such a waste of hard work. > > URL for Roots Genconnect http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/usaindex.html > > Bob Alvey > > > ============================== > Personalized Mailing Lists: never miss a connection again. > http://pml.rootsweb.com/ > Brought to you by RootsWeb.com. >

In a message dated 9/5/2000 7:46:17 PM Eastern Daylight Time, KYHARDIN-D-request@rootsweb.com writes: << Hi, I have a problem here and need some advice. As you all know I just started transcribing the Elizabethtown News and everyone seems to be enjoying it. It contains the History of Elizabethtown, By Samuel Haycraft written for the Elizabethtown News in 1866, evidently they ran it again in 1889. I started putting it on a web page as it is too large to send through e-mail, and I thought it would help a lot of people. But I found out that the Hardin county historical Society has put it into a book, when, I dont know.so I dont know whether to continue or not. I wouldn"t want to hurt their sales, and at the same time I dont know what the legal aspects would be. Copyrights ? >> <<(Partial reply) - I wouldn't worry about the Hardin Co Hiostorical Society unless the book is copyrighted material.>> Unfortunately the book says "copyrighted 1960 by the Hardin County Historical Society" - which I think is, pardon me, a crock -- if Laura is transcribing from the original news clippings, which ran in 1869 according to the book, I don't see how the HCHS can complain - that's exactly what they did, and anything older than 1923 (1926?) is fair game, from what I understand -- but I agree, as hard as she is working, it should go somewhere more permanent than the mail list. just my 2 cents worth.... Linda Koenig Louisville, KY

As much as I have enjoyed the two editions you have transcribed (there was an Alvey in the second one), I really don't think one of these County lists is the best place to make maximum use of your hard work. There are a number of places within Rootsweb where all Hardin Co genealogy could be posted and accessed by all researchers interested in Hardin Co. Why not send Sandi Gorin an e-mail and see what she recommends. The problem with posting to a list, eventually they will get deleted and lost for future interested parties that come along. Check out the Rootsweb Gen Connect pages and see if you can't find someplace where you can post as you complete our work and it will stil be there two years from now. I wouldn't worry about the Hardin Co Hiostorical Society unless the book is copyrighted material. They have had years to do something and hardly do anything. I am doing that with 5 cemeteries that I have in various stages of completion. I have seen people post cemetery data to a list and it always seems such a waste of hard work. URL for Roots Genconnect http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/usaindex.html Bob Alvey

Hi, I have a problem here and need some advice. As you all know I just started transcribing the Elizabethtown News and everyone seems to be enjoying it. It contains the History of Elizabethtown, By Samuel Haycraft written for the Elizabethtown News in 1866, evidently they ran it again in 1889. I started putting it on a web page as it is too large to send through e-mail, and I thought it would help a lot of people. But I found out that the Hardin county historical Society has put it into a book, when, I dont know.so I dont know whether to continue or not. I wouldn"t want to hurt their sales, and at the same time I dont know what the legal aspects would be. Copyrights ? any help here or suggestions. Sandi? anyone? thanks laura -- http://www.geocities.com/mamafrost/index.html RUSSELL COUNTY KENTUCKY FRIENDS http://www.egroups.com/group/russellcountyfriends A.n.d.e.r.s.o.n-B.o.w.l.e.s-B.u.n.c.h-B.l.a.c.k C.o.l.y.e.r-D.e.S.p.a.i.n-F.e.r.r.y-F.r.o.s.t G.r.a.h.a.m-B.u.r.t.o.n-J.a.s.p.e.r-H.u.c.k.a.b.y M.c.C.u.b.b.i.n.s -N.e.a.t-P.a.i.n.t.e.r-R.i.c.h.m.o.n.d R.e.x.r.o.a.t-B.o.l.e.n-Q.u.i.n.n-W.a.r.d-W.a.l.k.e.r W.r.i.g.h.t My biggest brick wall John Frost Born Clinton County Ky-1841 d. 1910 parents were William Frost & Rachael? What was Rachael"s maiden name? mailto:lsllwright@fuse.net

Hi list, Im new to this list and Im looking for information on my grandmother Rosanna Francis Hutchinson, she was born abt 1853 she md my grandfather John Will VINSON and she lived in Hardin Co, I have not been able to find anything on her parents or sibblings, I did find a WILLIAM HUTCHERSON AND ELIZABETH on the 1870 census of Hardin Co with a daughter Rosa age 15 which would have been about the right age. If anyone can help I would appreciate it. Thanks Zelma Taylor

I am slowly posting my research data to this web site. Trying in my own feeble way to help other Merrifield researcher solve their problems. I have collected Marifield, Maryfield, Merifield, Merrifield, Merryfield with indications of Mayfield, Mansfield, Merefield, Merrefield also deviate spellings. for around 30 years. TRYING to make head/tail of all the reaearchers files that I possess. Many steming from the early 1970s that may or may not jibe with my own research. I have been uploading my "Merrifield Time Line" file that covers Larue, Hardin, some Nelson, Shelby, Jefferson, Mercer, Washington, Logan, Christian, Daviess Co, Ky & some mgs in Ind. Then I have data from the Ohio Merrifield/etc families; Merrifield/etc famiiles in all states of the Union except Delaware & S. C. (doesn't mean they weren't there- just don't have any data from there). I guess I am feeling "my own mortality" and want to share all that I possilby can with whoever wants it. Want to find someplace to put all this data for posterity & hoping to save someone ALOT of research but making it easier to locate someone. I have been called the "guru" of the Merrifield Family but that isn't the case!!! True, I have alot of data but there is alot of data that I don't have. I'm missing the "links" to put it all together!!! So, I am hashing out the Merrifield data- trying to prove/ disprove earlier research data that doesn't "jibe" with my own (hopefully, methodical) research. IF anyone is interested in the Merrifield/etc Family anywhere- just YELL!!! Will be glad to help all that I can. Mary Yoder ACC Meade/Bullitt Cos

Little York in Hardin Co., KY was very close to Elizabethtown, and eventually became part of Elizabethtown.

I am researching the Walker families who lived in Hardin County in the early 1800's. The 1820 Census shows the Walkers living in Little York (aka Little Y) and Philadelphia. Can anyone tell me where these areas were located. My only other clue is that the family in Little York lived on the Rolling Fork. Carolyn

In a message dated 8/30/2000 3:48:48 PM Eastern Daylight Time, KYHARDIN-D-request@rootsweb.com writes: << Has anyone heard any more about the Fort Knox special. Thanks Lynne Ditmore >> Lynne, as it stands, I'm collecting addresses from those who want to be in on the round-robin, first come first served (six so far) and I'll be making two tapes, splitting the address list (and time received) in half. Also, there is a subscriber to this list who's checking with KET to see if the video can be purchased -- he's to have an answer within the next few days. He also suggested that everyone send an e-mail to tapes@ket.org -- asking that PBS run the show nationally. Linda