Helen Thanks for the input.. I wasn't sure if Thomas Gilliland was Sr or Jr that was in the Stuart Cemetery. I saw Roode/Rood/Rude spelling. I thought I might have been Thomas jr. I hope this helps Tracey with her search Thanks Lynne Ditmore Ft Wayne, IN

John HUMPHRIES/Humphreys married Nancy RUDE on Dec. 24, 1799 in Hardin Co., KY. The surety (bondsman) for the marriage was 22 year old Hankerson Rude who had just gotten married himself. Hankerson Rude, b. 1777, owned no real estate and was just starting out in life as a newlywed. Nancy Rude was born c. 1781. Does anyone have proof who Nancy Rude's parents were? Does anyone have proof of the relationship between Nancy Rude b. ca 1781 and Hankerson Rude b. 1777? One source says Nancy was the daughter of Asher and Elizabeth RUDE. Asher Rude was still alive and living in Hardin Co. in 1799. If he was Nancy's father, why wasn't he the bondsman for his daughter's marriage? (There's a possibility he disapproved, but if Nancy was born in 1781, she was only 18 years old and underage. She would need her father's consent to marry, right? Or am I wrong. Was 18 the age you could marry without parental consent?? Based on the theory that Hankerson Rude was Nancy's Rude's brother, one source says Nancy Rude was the daughter of Jesse Rude (Hankerson's father) who had died in 1791. Asher Rude or Jesse Rude? Can anyone document who Nancy Rude's father was? Does anyone have further info on Nancy Rude Humphries? Perhaps if she lived to 1850 and is on the census, we could determine who her father was by where she was born. If Asher Rude was her father, she would say she born in PA. If Jesse Rude was her father, she would say on the census she was born in KY. -- Helen Graves

Does anyone know if the Hardin Co. tax lists from 1806-1820 have been published? Or do I have to order them on film? -- Helen Graves

I just subscribed to the Hardin Co., KY, list last night. The first message I received this morning was about Thomas Gilleland. I am very interested in Thomas Gilleland and his family because his daughter Rebecca (he called her Peggy in his will), married Thompson RUDE in Hardin Co., KY, on March 3, 1810 (about 4 years before Thomas Gilleland died). Thompson Rude was the son of Jesse Rude and Mary Ann Ashby; he was born c. 1785 in prob Hardin Co. as his father received a land warrant in 1785. Jesse Rude died between Jan-April 1791 and his widow (Thompson's mother) married John Deremiah in August 1791.The Deremiahs continued to live in Hardin Co. on one of Deremiah's properties; I think the Deremiah's lived on his land near Shaw Creek, which became located in Grayson County after Grayson was created. In 1814, John Deremiah sold his Shaw Creek land and moved to Washington Co., IN. At some time between 1810 and 1820, Thompson Rude also moved his wife and children to Washington Co., IN. He appears on the 1820 Washington Co., IN, census on the same page as the Deremiahs. Thompson Rude's age bracket was 26-45, his wife 26-45. In 1820 they had 5 sons under 10 years of age and 2 daughters under 10 years of age (7 children since their 1810 marriage). In 1823, John Gilleland of Washington Co., IN, (Rebecca's brother) and Thompson Rude exchanged land. Thompson Rude obtained Gilleland's land in Hardin Co.KY and John Gilleland received Thompson Rude's land he owned in Washington Co., IN. At some time after this exchange (after 1823) Thompson Rude moved his wife and children back to Hardin Co., KY, to live on what had been John Gilleland's land. STUART CEMETERY, Hardin Co., KY: in addition to Rebecca's father Thomas Gilleland, there are two RUDE boys (David and Grayson) buried in Stuart Cemetery (per a book listing burials). No dates were given for these boys, but I think they must be sons of Thompson and Rebecca Rude as they had 5 sons by 1820 and only 3 appear in the family in later censuses as being born prior to 1820. Another Rude child is also buried in Stuart Cemetery. No name/no dates/no sex indicated. About 1835, Thompson and Rebecca (Gilleland) Rude moved to Orange twp, Knox Co., IL, with 9 children: Silas b. 1813; Thomas b. 1814; Margaret b. 1816; Hester Ann b. ca 1817; Mary Ann b. ca 1818; Joseph b. ca 1819; John b. ca 1820; Matilda b. ca 1825; Celia B. b. ca 1827. Thompson Rude died in 1848 in Knox Co., IL. His widow Rebecca (Gilleland) Rude died prior to May 16, 1855 (date will was proven). Her executor was her son in law Thomas Ashley, Celia's husband. She left $100 to her daughter Margaret (Mrs. Alexander) Lander. The rest of her estate (land and personal ppty) was left to her daughter Celia Ashley. I would like to hear from anyone regarding GILLELAND and RUDE of Hardin Co. KY. -- Helen Graves Does anyone know when Thomas Gilleland first settled in Hardin Co.?

Tracey Ok I found a query about the Gilliland family... "Would like to correspond with descendants of John and Sarah DODDERIDGE HUFF, early residents of Breckenridge CO KY. John HUFF was killed by Indians enroute to KY. His family consisted of Benjamin m- Mary Hardin; Reuben m- Hannah Shard; PRSCILLA M_ THOMAS GILLILAND; Jesse m- Lydia Walker; John m- Martha Tallman; DOrcus m-Jonatha Beauchamp; Aaron m Nancy McFarland and Acquilla m Mary Rawlins. Sarah Huff and several of her children are known to have gone to Indiana. FOUND IN A 1992 ANCESTRAL NEWS MARY SNEDEKER, #14 P, 1620 S Ocean Blvd, Pompano Beach, FL 33062 She may have more information for you>>>>>>> Mary also published this:Eden Brashear b. ca 1787 Jefferson CO KY?? Prescilla Gilliland b. ca 1787-88 d. 9 Dec 1852 Breckenridge CO KY. Thomas Gilliland d. ca 1814 Hardin CO KY Priscilla Huff b. 1789 Kent CO MD. Found in Ancestral News Summer 1996. Found an article on the Paddock family if you are interested, let me know. Im found a Thomas Gilliland buried in the Stuart Family cemetery no dates, but there is a Rude buried there. I found a Thomas Gilliland with a daughter Peggy married to a ROODE. This may be a spelling error....

Tracey, these are marriage records of Hardin County. (A)Sinaith Gilliland m- Wilson R Rawling 27 Mar 1815- Surety Thomas Gilliland recorded 30 Mar 1815 H Pasley a12, A49 Sarah Gilliland m- Joseph Money, 2 Dec 1801, Surety Jacob Vertrees, girl's father Thomas Gilliland, no returns- unrecorded Hannah_____ Mary Priscilla Gilliland m- 9 Sept 1808 Eden Brashear. Thomas and Prescilla Gilliland gave consent for girl's marriage. 11 Sept B Ogden A6, A29 James Gilliland Surety Rebecca (Polly) m- Joseph Paddock, 6 Sept 1800, Surety Abraham Enlows. Thomas Gilliland girl's father gave written consent. Witness Abraham Enlows, Samuel J Hinch. No return- unrecorded. Rachel m- Goolsby Nolen (sp) (Monin) 4 Jan 1812 Surety Joseph Monen. Thomas Gilliland girl's father gave written consent. Witness Joseph Monin 7 Jan 1812 J Paddock A9, A41 James #1 Polly Morrison 4 Oct 1808 #2 Mrs. Catherine Greenwalt 27 Feb 1832, Surety John Morrison both of age and both married before J Daughty A16 Hugh m- Polly Paddock 1812 Parent Jonathan Paddock performed the marriage. Aaron_______ Thomas m Patsy Armstrong 4 Feb 1812 ?????? unsure if this is correct. Need to confirm if this is Thomas Jr William m- Annise Day from Grayson County, married in Breckenridge County ?????? unsure if this correct. Need to confrim if this is Thomas Sr's son John______ Have several of James's family marriages if you are interested let me know. Have some more notes to email later Lynne Ditmore Ps Please note This is just a friendly look up and I am no relation for those seeing this.

Tracey, Have a seat and relax this is complicated. Will of Thomas Gilliland Will Book B In the name of God, Amen. I Thomas GILLILAND of Hardin County being of perfect health and memory thanks to given to God, calling to mind the mortality of my body and knowing that it is appointed for all men once to die, do make and ordain this my Last Will and Testament. That is to say, principally and first of all, I give and recommend my soul into the hand of all Mighty God, that gave it and my body, I recommend to the earth to be buried in a decent Christian burial at the discretion of my Executors, nothing doubting, but at the general resurrection, I shall receive the same again by the mighty power of God, and as touching such worldly estate wherewith all it hath pleased God to bless in this life, I give, devise and dipose of the same in the following, manner and form: 1. I give and bequeath to Prescillia, my dearly beloved wife, the one third part of the dwelling place as long as she lives and all moveable property, save and except one horse and saddle, two cows, and a feather bed, which I give to my beloved daughter, Sinaith. Next, I give to my son, Hugh and Aaron, I give seventy five acres of land of the south west end of a nine hundred acre survey running fifty poles wider at the upper end than the lower lying and situate on the head f the Little Cliffy, and that to equally divided between them both according to quantity and quantity. My daughter, Sarah GILLILAND, Hannah and Mary Priscilla, Rebecca and Rachel they all have got their shares before this time. I give and bequeath to my son, John, two hundred and fifty acres of land after my wife's death. It being the plantation I now live on. Also, it is my will and desire that if any of my foresaid sons shall die without lawful heir, the deceased of any of them his share of the land shall be given back to the remaining brothers and equally divided amongest them. Lastly, I appoint Patrick Brown and Stephen Rollins my lawful Executors and I do hereby utterly disallow, revoke and disannul all and every other former Testaments, Wills, legacies, bequests, by me in any ways before named, willed and bequeathed, ratifying and confirming this and no other to ne my Last Will and Testament. In witness whereof I have hereunto set my hand and seal this fifth day of April in the year of our Lord one thousand eight hundred and thirteen. Signed sealed and pubickly pronounced and declared by the said Thomas GILLILAN as his Last Will and Testament in the presence of us who in his presence and in the presence of each other and in the presence of each other have hereunto subscribed our names. Tests, Jacob Vertrees, Amos Vertrees, Thomas Vertrees, Michael Fox. At a County Court began and held for Hardin County at the Court House in Elizabethtown on Monday, the 12 th day of December, 1814. The within instrument of writing purporting to be the last will and testament of Thomas GILLILAND, deceased, was produced in court and proved by the oaths of Jacob Vertress. I also found marriages of the children. And a few old queries that might help you. Will send them out later. Lynne Ditmore

I am looking for information on the Gilliland family in Hardin Co., KY. My ggggg-grandfather was Thomas Gilliland b. abt 1793 in Hardin Co., I am looking for his parents. I came across a Thomas Gilliland on the Hardin Co., KY 1810 census that had a son that would have been my Thomas' age. Does anyone know about this family or about my Thomas Gilliland? My Thomas Gilliland moved to Washington Co., IN where he married Mary Bole. They had several children and raised them in Illinois. I would appreciate any help. Tracey

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Thanks Millie for the clues to go on. I'm not great at land records. I really have been lucky with other family groups either by living near the area or having cousins living near the areas. I think the lands were sold off about 1850. I'll have to go back to the deed index and see if there is a Caldwell listed then. By 1840, the Cladwell were in Simpson and Logan COs. Genealogy: Playing hide and seek, they hide and I seek!! Lynne Ditmore

I'm looking for descendants of John Akers I am trying to locate the land owned by him in Hardin co. My great X4 grandfather's (John and Elizabeth Akers Caldwell Family) hundred acres adjoined it. I have the early deeds, but it lists a beach, a fork and a tree as location!!! That was great for 1820s but for locating in the 2000s WOW!! Thanks in advance Genealogy: Playing hide and seek, they hide and I seek!! Lynne Ditmore

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