Hi Jen, I really appreciate your interest. I wish I knew exactly where it was located. There are several towns my gggrandfather mentions in his book located in Gentry Co. One is Lone Star, one is Julesburg (which was called Ft. Sedgewick) in earlier days, and also Gentryville where he states that the widow of James Harris was buried in "1853 or 1854". The information about James' wife is found on page 20 of his book along with something I've read a million times and only today stood out. It appears that my gggrandfather knew and heard stories from the mouth of the famous Captain Kidd. That is pretty cool. Anybody else read that and catch on to it? I'm not quite certain though, from the way he wrote it, if he actually listened to Captain Kidd himself or if the older folks told him of Captain Kidd. Will someone else read this and tell me what you think? Julie ----- Original Message ----- From: "jenandgarth" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, July 08, 2005 8:27 AM Subject: Re: [KYHARDIN] John Mayhew Harris > Julie, > I live in Liberty, MO. Where is Lonestar?? Do you know the location > (close idea) of the graves?? > > Jen

Julie, I live in Liberty, MO. Where is Lonestar?? Do you know the location (close idea) of the graves?? Jen ----- Original Message ----- From: "David & Julie Keyser" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2005 11:03 PM Subject: Re: [KYHARDIN] John Mayhew Harris > Thanks Mike for making that correction with me. I'm a lot less confused > now. I wish I knew if James' wife's grave were still there in Missouri. > I haven't been to Missouri since I was eight. I long to visit Gentry Co. > someday and see the what is left of it's history that might be connected > to our Harris clan. All the Setzer searchers on this site would be > interested by it too I'm sure. Anyone on this site ever traveled to > Lonestar Missouri in Gentry Co. or the round about area? > Julie > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mike Lamb" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2005 8:48 PM > Subject: [KYHARDIN] John Mayhew Harris > > >> Hello Julie, >> >> The part of my message where it said James Harris brother to >> Samuel Mayhew Harris is incorrect and should have said James >> Harris brother to the original John Mayhew Harris, son of Samuel >> and Susanna [Mayhew] Harris. I don't blame you for being confused! >> I get confused just trying to type and keep it all straight! Thanks >> for catching that and Thanks for your William McMahon Harris for >> preserving that history in his book and thank you for sharing. >> William wrote on page 20 that James Harris's widow lived to >> be very old. She was buried in the old cementery at Gentryville >> in 1853 or 1854. She came to Missouri with her son-in-law, >> John Setzer. My question is: Do you know if her grave stone >> is still there and would you have any info on her? >> All for now. Mike >> > > > ==== KYHARDIN Mailing List ==== > If you wish to unsubscribe from the Hardin Co., KY Mailing List, send only > the word > UNSUBSCRIBE to [email protected] or if you are on the Digest > List to [email protected] > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > >

Mike and Julie After reading your e-mails several times, my one conclusion would be .... HELP!!!! Thank god I wrote down where I found all of the data I have and so far there are three main sources. Recollections, thanks to Julie, the book, "Here to Yonder" that we all have, and Jimmy Harris has a site on the web. I lost the password but if I'm not mistaken Julie still has it.. I also have almost all of the books on Hardin Co. that Ancestral Trails had for sale but they don't help for the very early years of research. By the way, I'm glad you cleared up that typo with Julie on Samuel Mayhew Harris. I wouldn't have known where to stick another "Mayhew" And speaking of Mayhew's, in my records, the original John Mayhew, did have a son named John but it was John H. Harris. Guess he thought it would get alittle too crowded with James naming one of his sons John Mayhew too. I'm going back and review all of my data, and their sources over the week-end. Maybe I can add to this confusion Mon. or Tues. Thanks for clearing up the fact that there was two other Harris clans in Hardin. I can't tell you how many hours I've spent chasing my tail and asking "could there be more than one Harris family, and if so why didn't Clifton ever mention that in his book. The reason, I guess, is because when Clifton started his research, he had access to family bibles, letters, land deeds, etc. and it just didn't occur to him that people would get lost tracing their own family line. Talk to you soon. Regards, Larry --------------------------------------------------- Letter content was scanned by WinAntiVirus 2005. No threat detected. Please visit www.winantivirus.com for more details.

Hello Julie, The part of my message where it said James Harris brother to Samuel Mayhew Harris is incorrect and should have said James Harris brother to the original John Mayhew Harris, son of Samuel and Susanna [Mayhew] Harris. I don't blame you for being confused! I get confused just trying to type and keep it all straight! Thanks for catching that and Thanks for your William McMahon Harris for preserving that history in his book and thank you for sharing. William wrote on page 20 that James Harris's widow lived to be very old. She was buried in the old cementery at Gentryville in 1853 or 1854. She came to Missouri with her son-in-law, John Setzer. My question is: Do you know if her grave stone is still there and would you have any info on her? All for now. Mike >From: "David & Julie Keyser" <[email protected]> >Reply-To: [email protected] >To: [email protected] >Subject: Re: [KYHARDIN] Some Harris corrections >Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2005 22:59:00 -0600 > >Mike, >THANKYOU!! It appears that your Jacob Harris is the brother of my John >Mayhew Harris because on page 3 of William's book, he states in the third >paragraph "My father said we were going to Gentry Co. Mo., but we had to >wait until the grass was high enough to feed our stock. We moved in with >'Uncle JACOB Harris' for two and a half months....." This was the spring >of 1855 as was mentioned earlier on the page. >William mentions on the first page that they lived in the house they rented >from Samuel Mize six years. It is very possible they missed both of the >Census' those two record years. >My John Mayhew Harris, father of William McMahon Harris, was the son of >James Harris. This is where I get confused....again. You state below >"James Harris, brother to the original Samuel Mayhew Harris..." are you >referring to the Samuel Harris that married Susannah as the original Samuel >Mayhew Harris, or to the Samuel Mayhew Harris named by his father John >Mayhew, born to Samuel and Susannah? Mike were you able to understand the >genealogy on page 28 and 29 of William McMahons book? It is very >confusing and obviously not written by William. >But what still doesn't make sense is my William, along with his siblings >Mary and Ezra showing up in the household of John A. Harris on a census >record. Like I mentioned in my last response to Sandi's e-mail.....Frank >Zappa had it right when he named his kids. >Julie >----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Lamb" <[email protected]> >To: <[email protected]> >Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2005 9:54 PM >Subject: FW: [KYHARDIN] Some Harris corrections > > >>Hello Julie, Larry and all working on these Harrises from Hardin and >>Grayson Counties, Ky. >> >>First I would like to clear the confusion on John Mayhew >>Harris born about 1761-1762 to Samuel and Susannah >>(Mayhew) Harris. Sometimes he went by the name of >>Mayhew and sometimes he is listed as John or John M. >>Harris. He also named one of his sons, Samuel Mayhew. >>This is the Harris line that moved to Arkansas. James >>Harris, brother to the original Samuel Mayhew Harris, named >>one of his sons John Mayhew Harris also. This your line >>who went to Davis Co, Iowa and then the Gentry Co, Iowa. >> >>OK, these are the John Mayhew Harris lines that we know >>of. There maybe more as we do not have a complete >>listings of children of the other brothers. Benjamin, >>Rueben, Stephen, and Samuel Jr. >> >>Usually when I am doing a query, I am working on the >>John Mayhew Harris, son of Samuel and Susannah (Mayhew) >>Harris, as he is the one that there seems to be the most >>info on. My goal is to get more info on James Harris which >>is my line. >> >>Now on the John A Harris. Here is a web site for searching >>the archives of any roots web lists. >>http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl >> >>When you get to this web page, in the name of the list >>enter harris-hunters and then when that page comes up >>go to the year 2000 and put in my name and you will see >>that I did a query that year on all of the Harris' of Perry >>Township of Davis County, Iowa. The John A Harris is not >>your line but I do recall receiving an email from descendents >>of this John A Harris. They also did not know how he fit >>in and to this day, I do not know how this family of John >>A Harris fits, but I am sure he must be related. Now >>remember our group of Harris' are living amongst two other >>clans of Harris families from Hardin and Grayson Counties, >>Ky. These being the Masterson/Harris line and the >>Samuel Merdia Harris line. It has been a lot of work to >>keep all these Harris' separated when sometimes they >>belong to the same churches. Hopefully the descendents >>of John A Harris will email us again because I don't have >>that email anymore. Your John Mayhew Harris I have >>never found in the 1850 Davis County, Iowa census. >>As I think they may have been in route to Davis County. >>Also they don't show up in the 1856 Davis County, >>Iowa census, as they may have just moved to Gentry >>County, Missouri. But we know they were there according >>to your William McMahon Harris' Recollections. >> >>I hope I have cleared up some of the confusion and >>the direction some of my querys are really going. >>Here is my line: >>Samuel and Susannah (Mayhew) Harris >>James Harris >>Jacob Harris >>James Wyatt Harris >>Wallace Henson Harris - my grandfather >> >>All for now. Mike >> >>>From: "David & Julie Keyser" <[email protected]> >>>Reply-To: [email protected] >>>To: [email protected] >>>Subject: [KYHARDIN] Some Harris corrections >>>Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2005 14:50:02 -0600 >>> >>>Mike I hate to add confusion to this whole thing, but somewhere along the >>>line we are getting some important dates confused, or names (hardly >>>surprising with this line). In William McMahon's Recollections book, >>>which >>>I think most of you have a copy of, he states on page 20, third paragraph >>>half way down, "Thus I learned that my grandfather, James Harris, and two >>>brothers, Stephen and Mayhew (the latter my father was named after) were >>>old revolutionary or colonial soldiers..." Also in the genealogy that >>>Clifford Culver sent me, in January of 2004, he has listed my >>>ggggrandfather, John Mayhew Harris, born 1807, married to Elizabeth Stone >>>in 1849. However, I don't think the marriage date is right, and I know a >>>few months ago that someone, I think you or Larry, e-mailed their actual >>>marriage date on the list. I'm ready to shoot myself for not keeping >>>track of everything well and for putting Clifford's work to the side for >>>so long that I forgot about it. I'm afraid I have confused us all, and I >>>do apologize, but I know that my ggggrandfather was indeed John Mayhew >>>Harris. What is really bizarre is that Sandi sent me yesterday a record >>>of who, from the Harris clan, was renting from Samuel Mize, in Davis >>>county Iowa, at the time my gggrandfather states in his book he was there >>>and his family staying at the rental of Mr. Mize. This is how it reads: >>>John A. Harris 45 Ky b. abt 1805 >>> >>>Isabelle Harris 44 Ky b. abt 1806 >>> >>>John M. Harris 14 KY b. abt 1836 >>> >>>James H. Harris 10 KY b. abt 1840 >>> >>>Martha Harris 7 KY b. abt 1843 >>> >>>William Harris 5 KY b. abt 1845 >>> >>>Mary Harris 3 KY b. abt 1847 >>> >>>Ezra Harris 1 IA b. abt 1850 >>> >>> >>> >>>What makes no sense here is the names of the upper four people. The John >>>A. Harris has the approximate birthdate of my ggggrandfather John Mayhew >>>Harris, but I've not seen his name before or that of Isabelle Harris, >>>plus the John M. Harris listed shows him to be more likely a brother of >>>my William M. Harris listed above (the M. is missing in his middle name.) >>> I know that has to be my William because, as Sandi pointed out, he has >>>a sister named Mary listed and a brother named Ezra listed. I don't know >>>where John M, James, or Martha Harris, referred to above, belong in my >>>ggggrandfathers family. I've not read of their names as siblings to him >>>anywhere before and I know his father was named John Mayhew Harris and >>>his mother was likely Elizabeth Stone. She had been married previously >>>and had a son named John Stone. So, I am relooking through everything >>>again. I would ask everyone to turn to page 28 and 29 of William >>>McMahon's Book of Recollections, to see if you recognize the different >>>James and Samuels as that of any of your ancestors. >>>Well I know this is all very difficult to unravel my fellow cousins, but >>>somehow, we are all related one way or the other. I think we really need >>>to find our most common ancestor and work down from there. >>>Julie >>> >>> >>>==== KYHARDIN Mailing List ==== >>>NOTICE: Posting of virus warnings, test messages, chain >>>letters, political announcements, current events, items for >>>sale, personal messages, flames,etc. (in other words - spam) >>>is NOT ALLOWED and will be grounds for removal. 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Thanks Mike for making that correction with me. I'm a lot less confused now. I wish I knew if James' wife's grave were still there in Missouri. I haven't been to Missouri since I was eight. I long to visit Gentry Co. someday and see the what is left of it's history that might be connected to our Harris clan. All the Setzer searchers on this site would be interested by it too I'm sure. Anyone on this site ever traveled to Lonestar Missouri in Gentry Co. or the round about area? Julie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Lamb" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2005 8:48 PM Subject: [KYHARDIN] John Mayhew Harris > Hello Julie, > > The part of my message where it said James Harris brother to > Samuel Mayhew Harris is incorrect and should have said James > Harris brother to the original John Mayhew Harris, son of Samuel > and Susanna [Mayhew] Harris. I don't blame you for being confused! > I get confused just trying to type and keep it all straight! Thanks > for catching that and Thanks for your William McMahon Harris for > preserving that history in his book and thank you for sharing. > William wrote on page 20 that James Harris's widow lived to > be very old. She was buried in the old cementery at Gentryville > in 1853 or 1854. She came to Missouri with her son-in-law, > John Setzer. My question is: Do you know if her grave stone > is still there and would you have any info on her? > All for now. Mike >

Hello Julie, Larry and all working on these Harrises from Hardin and Grayson Counties, Ky. First I would like to clear the confusion on John Mayhew Harris born about 1761-1762 to Samuel and Susannah (Mayhew) Harris. Sometimes he went by the name of Mayhew and sometimes he is listed as John or John M. Harris. He also named one of his sons, Samuel Mayhew. This is the Harris line that moved to Arkansas. James Harris, brother to the original Samuel Mayhew Harris, named one of his sons John Mayhew Harris also. This your line who went to Davis Co, Iowa and then the Gentry Co, Iowa. OK, these are the John Mayhew Harris lines that we know of. There maybe more as we do not have a complete listings of children of the other brothers. Benjamin, Rueben, Stephen, and Samuel Jr. Usually when I am doing a query, I am working on the John Mayhew Harris, son of Samuel and Susannah (Mayhew) Harris, as he is the one that there seems to be the most info on. My goal is to get more info on James Harris which is my line. Now on the John A Harris. Here is a web site for searching the archives of any roots web lists. http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl When you get to this web page, in the name of the list enter harris-hunters and then when that page comes up go to the year 2000 and put in my name and you will see that I did a query that year on all of the Harris' of Perry Township of Davis County, Iowa. The John A Harris is not your line but I do recall receiving an email from descendents of this John A Harris. They also did not know how he fit in and to this day, I do not know how this family of John A Harris fits, but I am sure he must be related. Now remember our group of Harris' are living amongst two other clans of Harris families from Hardin and Grayson Counties, Ky. These being the Masterson/Harris line and the Samuel Merdia Harris line. It has been a lot of work to keep all these Harris' separated when sometimes they belong to the same churches. Hopefully the descendents of John A Harris will email us again because I don't have that email anymore. Your John Mayhew Harris I have never found in the 1850 Davis County, Iowa census. As I think they may have been in route to Davis County. Also they don't show up in the 1856 Davis County, Iowa census, as they may have just moved to Gentry County, Missouri. But we know they were there according to your William McMahon Harris' Recollections. I hope I have cleared up some of the confusion and the direction some of my querys are really going. Here is my line: Samuel and Susannah (Mayhew) Harris James Harris Jacob Harris James Wyatt Harris Wallace Henson Harris - my grandfather All for now. Mike >From: "David & Julie Keyser" <[email protected]> >Reply-To: [email protected] >To: [email protected] >Subject: [KYHARDIN] Some Harris corrections >Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2005 14:50:02 -0600 > >Mike I hate to add confusion to this whole thing, but somewhere along the >line we are getting some important dates confused, or names (hardly >surprising with this line). In William McMahon's Recollections book, which >I think most of you have a copy of, he states on page 20, third paragraph >half way down, "Thus I learned that my grandfather, James Harris, and two >brothers, Stephen and Mayhew (the latter my father was named after) were >old revolutionary or colonial soldiers..." Also in the genealogy that >Clifford Culver sent me, in January of 2004, he has listed my >ggggrandfather, John Mayhew Harris, born 1807, married to Elizabeth Stone >in 1849. However, I don't think the marriage date is right, and I know a >few months ago that someone, I think you or Larry, e-mailed their actual >marriage date on the list. I'm ready to shoot myself for not keeping track >of everything well and for putting Clifford's work to the side for so long >that I forgot about it. I'm afraid I have confused us all, and I do >apologize, but I know that my ggggrandfather was indeed John Mayhew Harris. > What is really bizarre is that Sandi sent me yesterday a record of who, >from the Harris clan, was renting from Samuel Mize, in Davis county Iowa, >at the time my gggrandfather states in his book he was there and his family >staying at the rental of Mr. Mize. This is how it reads: >John A. Harris 45 Ky b. abt 1805 > >Isabelle Harris 44 Ky b. abt 1806 > >John M. Harris 14 KY b. abt 1836 > >James H. Harris 10 KY b. abt 1840 > >Martha Harris 7 KY b. abt 1843 > >William Harris 5 KY b. abt 1845 > >Mary Harris 3 KY b. abt 1847 > >Ezra Harris 1 IA b. abt 1850 > > > >What makes no sense here is the names of the upper four people. The John >A. Harris has the approximate birthdate of my ggggrandfather John Mayhew >Harris, but I've not seen his name before or that of Isabelle Harris, plus >the John M. Harris listed shows him to be more likely a brother of my >William M. Harris listed above (the M. is missing in his middle name.) I >know that has to be my William because, as Sandi pointed out, he has a >sister named Mary listed and a brother named Ezra listed. I don't know >where John M, James, or Martha Harris, referred to above, belong in my >ggggrandfathers family. I've not read of their names as siblings to him >anywhere before and I know his father was named John Mayhew Harris and his >mother was likely Elizabeth Stone. She had been married previously and had >a son named John Stone. So, I am relooking through everything again. I >would ask everyone to turn to page 28 and 29 of William McMahon's Book of >Recollections, to see if you recognize the different James and Samuels as >that of any of your ancestors. >Well I know this is all very difficult to unravel my fellow cousins, but >somehow, we are all related one way or the other. I think we really need >to find our most common ancestor and work down from there. >Julie > > >==== KYHARDIN Mailing List ==== >NOTICE: Posting of virus warnings, test messages, chain >letters, political announcements, current events, items for >sale, personal messages, flames,etc. (in other words - spam) >is NOT ALLOWED and will be grounds for removal. Consideration >for exceptions, contact Kathleen Burnett [email protected] > >============================== >Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the >areas they lived. 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Mike, THANKYOU!! It appears that your Jacob Harris is the brother of my John Mayhew Harris because on page 3 of William's book, he states in the third paragraph "My father said we were going to Gentry Co. Mo., but we had to wait until the grass was high enough to feed our stock. We moved in with 'Uncle JACOB Harris' for two and a half months....." This was the spring of 1855 as was mentioned earlier on the page. William mentions on the first page that they lived in the house they rented from Samuel Mize six years. It is very possible they missed both of the Census' those two record years. My John Mayhew Harris, father of William McMahon Harris, was the son of James Harris. This is where I get confused....again. You state below "James Harris, brother to the original Samuel Mayhew Harris..." are you referring to the Samuel Harris that married Susannah as the original Samuel Mayhew Harris, or to the Samuel Mayhew Harris named by his father John Mayhew, born to Samuel and Susannah? Mike were you able to understand the genealogy on page 28 and 29 of William McMahons book? It is very confusing and obviously not written by William. But what still doesn't make sense is my William, along with his siblings Mary and Ezra showing up in the household of John A. Harris on a census record. Like I mentioned in my last response to Sandi's e-mail.....Frank Zappa had it right when he named his kids. Julie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Lamb" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2005 9:54 PM Subject: FW: [KYHARDIN] Some Harris corrections > Hello Julie, Larry and all working on these Harrises from Hardin and > Grayson Counties, Ky. > > First I would like to clear the confusion on John Mayhew > Harris born about 1761-1762 to Samuel and Susannah > (Mayhew) Harris. Sometimes he went by the name of > Mayhew and sometimes he is listed as John or John M. > Harris. He also named one of his sons, Samuel Mayhew. > This is the Harris line that moved to Arkansas. James > Harris, brother to the original Samuel Mayhew Harris, named > one of his sons John Mayhew Harris also. This your line > who went to Davis Co, Iowa and then the Gentry Co, Iowa. > > OK, these are the John Mayhew Harris lines that we know > of. There maybe more as we do not have a complete > listings of children of the other brothers. Benjamin, > Rueben, Stephen, and Samuel Jr. > > Usually when I am doing a query, I am working on the > John Mayhew Harris, son of Samuel and Susannah (Mayhew) > Harris, as he is the one that there seems to be the most > info on. My goal is to get more info on James Harris which > is my line. > > Now on the John A Harris. Here is a web site for searching > the archives of any roots web lists. > http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > > When you get to this web page, in the name of the list > enter harris-hunters and then when that page comes up > go to the year 2000 and put in my name and you will see > that I did a query that year on all of the Harris' of Perry > Township of Davis County, Iowa. The John A Harris is not > your line but I do recall receiving an email from descendents > of this John A Harris. They also did not know how he fit > in and to this day, I do not know how this family of John > A Harris fits, but I am sure he must be related. Now > remember our group of Harris' are living amongst two other > clans of Harris families from Hardin and Grayson Counties, > Ky. These being the Masterson/Harris line and the > Samuel Merdia Harris line. It has been a lot of work to > keep all these Harris' separated when sometimes they > belong to the same churches. Hopefully the descendents > of John A Harris will email us again because I don't have > that email anymore. Your John Mayhew Harris I have > never found in the 1850 Davis County, Iowa census. > As I think they may have been in route to Davis County. > Also they don't show up in the 1856 Davis County, > Iowa census, as they may have just moved to Gentry > County, Missouri. But we know they were there according > to your William McMahon Harris' Recollections. > > I hope I have cleared up some of the confusion and > the direction some of my querys are really going. > Here is my line: > Samuel and Susannah (Mayhew) Harris > James Harris > Jacob Harris > James Wyatt Harris > Wallace Henson Harris - my grandfather > > All for now. Mike > >>From: "David & Julie Keyser" <[email protected]> >>Reply-To: [email protected] >>To: [email protected] >>Subject: [KYHARDIN] Some Harris corrections >>Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2005 14:50:02 -0600 >> >>Mike I hate to add confusion to this whole thing, but somewhere along the >>line we are getting some important dates confused, or names (hardly >>surprising with this line). In William McMahon's Recollections book, >>which >>I think most of you have a copy of, he states on page 20, third paragraph >>half way down, "Thus I learned that my grandfather, James Harris, and two >>brothers, Stephen and Mayhew (the latter my father was named after) were >>old revolutionary or colonial soldiers..." Also in the genealogy that >>Clifford Culver sent me, in January of 2004, he has listed my >>ggggrandfather, John Mayhew Harris, born 1807, married to Elizabeth Stone >>in 1849. However, I don't think the marriage date is right, and I know a >>few months ago that someone, I think you or Larry, e-mailed their actual >>marriage date on the list. I'm ready to shoot myself for not keeping >>track of everything well and for putting Clifford's work to the side for >>so long that I forgot about it. I'm afraid I have confused us all, and I >>do apologize, but I know that my ggggrandfather was indeed John Mayhew >>Harris. What is really bizarre is that Sandi sent me yesterday a record of >>who, from the Harris clan, was renting from Samuel Mize, in Davis county >>Iowa, at the time my gggrandfather states in his book he was there and his >>family staying at the rental of Mr. Mize. This is how it reads: >>John A. Harris 45 Ky b. abt 1805 >> >>Isabelle Harris 44 Ky b. abt 1806 >> >>John M. Harris 14 KY b. abt 1836 >> >>James H. Harris 10 KY b. abt 1840 >> >>Martha Harris 7 KY b. abt 1843 >> >>William Harris 5 KY b. abt 1845 >> >>Mary Harris 3 KY b. abt 1847 >> >>Ezra Harris 1 IA b. abt 1850 >> >> >> >>What makes no sense here is the names of the upper four people. The John >>A. Harris has the approximate birthdate of my ggggrandfather John Mayhew >>Harris, but I've not seen his name before or that of Isabelle Harris, plus >>the John M. Harris listed shows him to be more likely a brother of my >>William M. Harris listed above (the M. is missing in his middle name.) I >>know that has to be my William because, as Sandi pointed out, he has a >>sister named Mary listed and a brother named Ezra listed. I don't know >>where John M, James, or Martha Harris, referred to above, belong in my >>ggggrandfathers family. I've not read of their names as siblings to him >>anywhere before and I know his father was named John Mayhew Harris and his >>mother was likely Elizabeth Stone. She had been married previously and >>had a son named John Stone. So, I am relooking through everything again. >>I would ask everyone to turn to page 28 and 29 of William McMahon's Book >>of Recollections, to see if you recognize the different James and Samuels >>as that of any of your ancestors. >>Well I know this is all very difficult to unravel my fellow cousins, but >>somehow, we are all related one way or the other. I think we really need >>to find our most common ancestor and work down from there. >>Julie >> >> >>==== KYHARDIN Mailing List ==== >>NOTICE: Posting of virus warnings, test messages, chain >>letters, political announcements, current events, items for >>sale, personal messages, flames,etc. (in other words - spam) >>is NOT ALLOWED and will be grounds for removal. Consideration >>for exceptions, contact Kathleen Burnett [email protected] >> >>============================== >>Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the >>areas they lived. 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Sandi, I like your theory of a possible wrong middle initial and the possibility of three wives. I really wish I could find out for certain who is who. I do find it hard to believe though, that a marriage record and the census would both have John's middle initial wrong. This is the part that confuses me. I also find it interesting that John Stone is not listed as one who lived with them, however they have listed a John M. Harris born about 1836. I wonder if they just assumed that, that particular John M. was a Harris and not possibly John Stone. John Stone was from Elizabeth's first marriage and was written of often by William McMahon in his book as he was fond of this particular older half brother. Also interesting to note, William M. always mentions John as his "Half" brother, he does not mention that about any of his other siblings. I notice that John Stone must have been living with them when they were residing in the home they rented from Mr. Mize, because on page 2 of William M.'s book, after Mr. Mize shot Mr. Brewster, he told John Stone about it. This whole problem with names being used over and over in the Harris family (which continues to this day) leads me to believe that "Frank Zappa" had it right when he named his children things like "Moon Unit", because NO ONE will ever doubt who she belonged to. They may wonder, however, if she (Moon Unit) was a boy or a girl. Anyway, thank you Sandi for all your further investigative work, and I hope I haven't ruined this to much for all you other Harris fans out there. I'll go work on this puzzle some more, it's late, so good night. Julie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sandi" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2005 7:34 PM Subject: [KYHARDIN] John A.Harris > Hi Julie, > Here is a marriage record of John A. Harris in Hardin County and is about > right for the family whose first child was born in 1840. Also, I check > the > census again John A. was born about 1807 I needed to magnify it, not 1805. > Mize house # was 9 and John A. Harris was # 11 Jacob was # 44. A Plat map > of the county and township would tell you exactly how far away they are > from > one another. > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > 9-15-1839 Book B Page 65 STEPHENS JANE and HARRIS JOHN A00-00-00 from > the Hardin County web site. > John was over 21 years of age and Jane was the daughter of Elizabeth > Stephens who gave her consent by certificate for her to marry JOHN. > Elizabeth Stephens who signed it wrote consent on September 12 1839. > After looking at the census again Isabelle was 1 year older than John. So > Jane could have been his first wife and died in child birth after the > first > child as there is 4 years between the first and second child and then > Isabelle was the second wife and died after Ezra was born and Elizabeth > was > his third wife. Boy can I muddy the waters. > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > -- > He may have changed his middle name or maybe Isabelle didn't know it, > which > is very possible. Isabelle could have died in Childbirth as she was 44 and > then he married Elizabeth just a thought. The family didn't go to Iowa > until 1849 and to Gentry County MO. until 1856 according to William's > writings. I am just going through this and taking a piece at a time. > William said that they lived with Jacob for 2 1/2 months. > ---------------------------------------- > Jacob Lived in Perry Township, Davis County, IA > 1850 United States Federal Census > Iowa > Davis > Perry > 19 44 44 Harris Jacob 38 M Farmer 500 Ky > 20 44 44 Harris Eliza J 34 F Ky > 21 44 44 Harris Susan A 14 F Ky x > 22 44 44 Harris Harriett A 12 F Ky x > 23 44 44 Harris William B 10 M Ky x > 24 44 44 Harris Matilda 7 F Ky x > 25 44 44 Harris John O 4 M Ky > 26 44 44 Harris Richard W M > > -----Original Message----- > From: David & Julie Keyser [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2005 6:01 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: Re: [KYHARDIN] Some Marriages In Hardin County, Kentucky, > 1793-1815 > > > > > > ==== KYHARDIN Mailing List ==== > If you wish to unsubscribe from the Hardin Co., KY Mailing List, send only > the word > UNSUBSCRIBE to [email protected] or if you are on the Digest > List to [email protected] > > ============================== > Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for > ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx >

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/2AB.2ACI/4880.2.1 Message Board Post: I am also researching Tharps in Larue, Hardin, and Hart counties. My grandfather was Christopher Columbus Tharp, His father was William James Tharp. Alsp related to Jasper Tharp and others. JW

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/2AB.2ACI/5025 Message Board Post: My g grandparents, William J. Tharp and Lucinda Harkness were married in Hardin county, Kentucky. The date was 12 Jan 1873. They were on the Sonora, Hardin, Kentucky 1880 census. Any information? JW

Hi Julie, Here is a marriage record of John A. Harris in Hardin County and is about right for the family whose first child was born in 1840. Also, I check the census again John A. was born about 1807 I needed to magnify it, not 1805. Mize house # was 9 and John A. Harris was # 11 Jacob was # 44. A Plat map of the county and township would tell you exactly how far away they are from one another. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 9-15-1839 Book B Page 65 STEPHENS JANE and HARRIS JOHN A00-00-00 from the Hardin County web site. John was over 21 years of age and Jane was the daughter of Elizabeth Stephens who gave her consent by certificate for her to marry JOHN. Elizabeth Stephens who signed it wrote consent on September 12 1839. After looking at the census again Isabelle was 1 year older than John. So Jane could have been his first wife and died in child birth after the first child as there is 4 years between the first and second child and then Isabelle was the second wife and died after Ezra was born and Elizabeth was his third wife. Boy can I muddy the waters. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- He may have changed his middle name or maybe Isabelle didn't know it, which is very possible. Isabelle could have died in Childbirth as she was 44 and then he married Elizabeth just a thought. The family didn't go to Iowa until 1849 and to Gentry County MO. until 1856 according to William's writings. I am just going through this and taking a piece at a time. William said that they lived with Jacob for 2 1/2 months. ---------------------------------------- Jacob Lived in Perry Township, Davis County, IA 1850 United States Federal Census > Iowa > Davis > Perry 19 44 44 Harris Jacob 38 M Farmer 500 Ky 20 44 44 Harris Eliza J 34 F Ky 21 44 44 Harris Susan A 14 F Ky x 22 44 44 Harris Harriett A 12 F Ky x 23 44 44 Harris William B 10 M Ky x 24 44 44 Harris Matilda 7 F Ky x 25 44 44 Harris John O 4 M Ky 26 44 44 Harris Richard W M -----Original Message----- From: David & Julie Keyser [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2005 6:01 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Re: [KYHARDIN] Some Marriages In Hardin County, Kentucky, 1793-1815

John Harris m. Isabella Berry Jun 2, 1830 in Union Co., KY. In 1850 census for Madison Co., KY HH 168 170 John A. Harris 46 M KY Carpenter Isabella Harris 44 F KY Mary Harris 5 F Ky Could they have sent the older children on to Iowa with kin while they waited for Ezra to be born? This census was done on 16 Aug. 1850. Dave ----- Original Message ----- From: "David & Julie Keyser" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2005 3:50 PM Subject: [KYHARDIN] Some Harris corrections > Mike I hate to add confusion to this whole thing, but somewhere along the > line we are getting some important dates confused, or names (hardly > surprising with this line). In William McMahon's Recollections book, > which > I think most of you have a copy of, he states on page 20, third paragraph > half way down, "Thus I learned that my grandfather, James Harris, and two > brothers, Stephen and Mayhew (the latter my father was named after) were > old revolutionary or colonial soldiers..." Also in the genealogy that > Clifford Culver sent me, in January of 2004, he has listed my > ggggrandfather, John Mayhew Harris, born 1807, married to Elizabeth Stone > in 1849. However, I don't think the marriage date is right, and I know a > few months ago that someone, I think you or Larry, e-mailed their actual > marriage date on the list. I'm ready to shoot myself for not keeping > track of everything well and for putting Clifford's work to the side for > so long that I forgot about it. I'm afraid I have confused us all, and I > do apologize, but I know that my ggggrandfather was indeed John Mayhew > Harris. What is really bizarre is that Sandi sent me yesterday a record > of who, from the Harris clan, was renting from Samuel Mize, in Davis > county Iowa, at the time my gggrandfather states in his book he was there > and his family staying at the rental of Mr. Mize. This is how it reads: > John A. Harris 45 Ky b. abt 1805 > > Isabelle Harris 44 Ky b. abt 1806 > > John M. Harris 14 KY b. abt 1836 > > James H. Harris 10 KY b. abt 1840 > > Martha Harris 7 KY b. abt 1843 > > William Harris 5 KY b. abt 1845 > > Mary Harris 3 KY b. abt 1847 > > Ezra Harris 1 IA b. abt 1850 > > > > What makes no sense here is the names of the upper four people. The John > A. Harris has the approximate birthdate of my ggggrandfather John Mayhew > Harris, but I've not seen his name before or that of Isabelle Harris, plus > the John M. Harris listed shows him to be more likely a brother of my > William M. Harris listed above (the M. is missing in his middle name.) I > know that has to be my William because, as Sandi pointed out, he has a > sister named Mary listed and a brother named Ezra listed. I don't know > where John M, James, or Martha Harris, referred to above, belong in my > ggggrandfathers family. I've not read of their names as siblings to him > anywhere before and I know his father was named John Mayhew Harris and his > mother was likely Elizabeth Stone. She had been married previously and > had a son named John Stone. So, I am relooking through everything again. > I would ask everyone to turn to page 28 and 29 of William McMahon's Book > of Recollections, to see if you recognize the different James and Samuels > as that of any of your ancestors. > Well I know this is all very difficult to unravel my fellow cousins, but > somehow, we are all related one way or the other. I think we really need > to find our most common ancestor and work down from there. > Julie > > > ==== KYHARDIN Mailing List ==== > NOTICE: Posting of virus warnings, test messages, chain > letters, political announcements, current events, items for > sale, personal messages, flames,etc. (in other words - spam) > is NOT ALLOWED and will be grounds for removal. Consideration > for exceptions, contact Kathleen Burnett [email protected] > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx >

Mike I hate to add confusion to this whole thing, but somewhere along the line we are getting some important dates confused, or names (hardly surprising with this line). In William McMahon's Recollections book, which I think most of you have a copy of, he states on page 20, third paragraph half way down, "Thus I learned that my grandfather, James Harris, and two brothers, Stephen and Mayhew (the latter my father was named after) were old revolutionary or colonial soldiers..." Also in the genealogy that Clifford Culver sent me, in January of 2004, he has listed my ggggrandfather, John Mayhew Harris, born 1807, married to Elizabeth Stone in 1849. However, I don't think the marriage date is right, and I know a few months ago that someone, I think you or Larry, e-mailed their actual marriage date on the list. I'm ready to shoot myself for not keeping track of everything well and for putting Clifford's work to the side for so long that I forgot about it. I'm afraid I have confused us all, and I do apologize, but I know that my ggggrandfather was indeed John Mayhew Harris. What is really bizarre is that Sandi sent me yesterday a record of who, from the Harris clan, was renting from Samuel Mize, in Davis county Iowa, at the time my gggrandfather states in his book he was there and his family staying at the rental of Mr. Mize. This is how it reads: John A. Harris 45 Ky b. abt 1805 Isabelle Harris 44 Ky b. abt 1806 John M. Harris 14 KY b. abt 1836 James H. Harris 10 KY b. abt 1840 Martha Harris 7 KY b. abt 1843 William Harris 5 KY b. abt 1845 Mary Harris 3 KY b. abt 1847 Ezra Harris 1 IA b. abt 1850 What makes no sense here is the names of the upper four people. The John A. Harris has the approximate birthdate of my ggggrandfather John Mayhew Harris, but I've not seen his name before or that of Isabelle Harris, plus the John M. Harris listed shows him to be more likely a brother of my William M. Harris listed above (the M. is missing in his middle name.) I know that has to be my William because, as Sandi pointed out, he has a sister named Mary listed and a brother named Ezra listed. I don't know where John M, James, or Martha Harris, referred to above, belong in my ggggrandfathers family. I've not read of their names as siblings to him anywhere before and I know his father was named John Mayhew Harris and his mother was likely Elizabeth Stone. She had been married previously and had a son named John Stone. So, I am relooking through everything again. I would ask everyone to turn to page 28 and 29 of William McMahon's Book of Recollections, to see if you recognize the different James and Samuels as that of any of your ancestors. Well I know this is all very difficult to unravel my fellow cousins, but somehow, we are all related one way or the other. I think we really need to find our most common ancestor and work down from there. Julie

Hi Larry, I agree with you that we need to document the children of Samuel and Susanah (Mayhew) Harris. So far, all that I have is the info from the book written by Clifton Harris, "From Here to Yonder", which I have you the thank for. There is alot of new info waiting to be found. I have been lucky enough to do some research on the Daper manuscripts resently at a library as I was trying to document the time our Harris family spent at Corn Island with George Rogers Clark, 1776. My first 2 days were overwhelming as there are hundreds of volumes in these manuscripts. Unfortunely, I have no new info on our Harris'. Each year I stick by these "roots web" mailing lists hoping to find some new info and lost limbs of our Harris tree. I was very happy recently when Julie Keyser began her research and was able to place my Jacob Harris as a uncle of William McMahon Harris. And therefore, a brother to John Mayhew Harris who settled first in Davis County Iowa and then to Gentry County, Missouri. John Mayhew also had a brother Samuel, who married Phoebe Fulkerson. Samuel was born in 1790. John Mayhew was born 1807. Jacob was born 1810. I know from the census that we are missing many children of this family yet. I have never done anything on land grants so I'm not much help to you on that question. So basicly, I am in the same situation as you are. Hoping for new documentation on Samuel and Susannah (Mayhew) Harris and down through their son James Harris, which would be my line. As for the Molly Harris listed in the first meeting for the Beaver Dam Baptist Church in 1804, is Molly a nickname for Mary? Also is Polly a nickname for Mary? If Molly is a nickname then this could be our Mary, married to John Mayhew Harris, son of Samuel and Susannah (Mayhew) Harris? This would identify Molly!! I would like to identify Jonathan Harris and as i indicated in a previous e-mail attached below, John Mayhew harris would have turned 21 about 1782 and if married then his son would be 21 or 22 in 1804 and that could be Jonathan and Catherine [Peters] Harris listed in that first meeting of the Beaver Dam Babtist chuch of 1804 or he could be a son of James Harris. All for now. Mike Lamb >From: "L35321" <[email protected]> >Reply-To: [email protected] >To: [email protected] >Subject: Re: Re: [KYHARDIN] Some Marriages In Hardin County, Kentucky, >1793-1815 >Date: Sun, 3 Jul 2005 12:47:33 -0700 > >Hi Mike .......... Sorry for that short reply. I started an e-mail and got >called away and thought I hit the save button but I guess I was wrong. > >I think you're probably right about three wives for John Mayhew, but all of >the children of Samuel and Susanah should really be documented . It's only >hearsay and third handmedown info that everyone is working from.right now >and it's really messing things up. > >You talked about land that was granted to John Meyhew for his service in >the >revolution. I wonder if you or anyone on the board has searched for the >deeds or grants given men that fought in that war or the war of 1812. I >have >no idea how to go about it and now there is a better than "fair" chance >that >my 4th great grandfather came here from France with Lafayette. I'm almost >possitive that all the land grants that Lafayette had to give out to his >men >was in PA. Does anyone know how to go about finding out? > >Getting back to the documentation on the Harris' Mike, do you know that any >has been found for the children of Samuel? Thanks > >Regards, Larry > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Mike Lamb" <[email protected]> >To: <[email protected]> >Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2005 8:10 PM >Subject: FW: Re: [KYHARDIN] Some Marriages In Hardin County, Kentucky, >1793-1815 > > > > Hello Larry, > > > > Mayhew Harris did marry Mary (Polly) Patrick in 1791, but in the Grayson > > County deaths listed > > from 1852-1859 is Polly Cary age 70 died April 9, 1855 born Va. Parents >were > > Mayhew Harris > > and Mary Harris. This would have put her birth at 1785. Kentucky would > > have been part of > > Virginia. And it shows that Mayhew Harris must have been married to >another > > Mary before > > his 1791 marriage to Mary Patrick. The first marriage must be in the > > Virginia records and > > may be under John Mayhew Harris or John M Harris and possibly around the > > year 1782 as > > this was about when he turned 21 years old. He was probably living in >the > > Fort Nelson, Ky > > area which is present day Louisville. The marriage could have taken >place > > on the Indiana > > side of the river as he had land in the Clarksville area for his service > > during the Revolutionary > > War with George Rogers Clark. Question: Has anyone found any info on >this > > marriage? > > Question #2: Would still like to know how Catherine (Peters) Harris and > > Jonathan Harris > > might have been connected? There doesn't seem to be any info on this > > couple. > > > > Thanks, all for now, Mike Lamb > > > > > > > > >From: "L35321" <[email protected]> > > >Reply-To: [email protected] > > >To: [email protected] > > >Subject: Re: [KYHARDIN] FW: [HH] Some Marriages In Hardin County, >Kentucky, > > >1793-1815 > > >Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 09:00:34 -0700 > > > > > >Hello Mike > > > > > >Your Mayhew Harris that married Lydia Grey in 1811 was first married to > > >Mary > > >(Polly) Patrick in 1791. They had 5 boys. I don't have all of the birth > > >dates, but Jacob was born in 1803. According to my notes this data came > > >from > > >the book "From here to Yonder" which you have. > > > > > >Regards, Larry > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >----- Original Message ----- > > >From: "Mike Lamb" <[email protected]> > > >To: <[email protected]> > > >Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 2:35 PM > > >Subject: [KYHARDIN] FW: [HH] Some Marriages In Hardin County, Kentucky, > > >1793-1815 > > > > > > > > > > Hello list, > > > > I am seeking more information on Jonathan Harris and his wife > > > > Catherine [Peters] Harris. They were present at the beginning > > > > of the Beaver Dam Baptist church. First meeting was may 29th > > > > 1804, also listed at this meeting was James Harris, Mayhew Harris > > > > and possibly their wives but I don't know who to match with > > > > who as this is a gray area in rebuilding this Harris line, listed >are > > > > Molly Harris and Nancy Harris, both of these Harris wives are > > > > probably buried where that first church was in 1804 and > > > > located in present day Grayson Co., KY. In the 1810 census > > > > Mayhew Harris is listed with children and no wife and he marries > > > > in 1811 Lydia Gray. James Harris I have listed as first wife as > > > > Lydia Mellon married about 1792, daughter of Lawrence Giles. > > > > For a second marriage I have James and Ann Giles! Were Lydia > > > > and Anne Giles sisters? > > > > Info on any of these Harrises would be appreciated! > > > > Was Jonathan from a different line of Harrises and how are > > > > Molly and Nancy Harris related? James and Mayhew were > > > > sons of Samuel and Susannah [Mayhew] Harris. There is a > > > > lot of info in the Hardin Co. rootsweb archives but nothing > > > > that I could find on the questions above. > > > > > > > > Thanks, Mike Lamb > > > > > > > > >From: "Ira Harris" <[email protected]> > > > > >To: [email protected] > > > > >Subject: [HH] Some Marriages In Hardin County, Kentucky, 1793-1815 > > > > >Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 13:15:02 -0500 > > > > > > > > > >Source: > > > > >RECORD OF MARRIAGES IN HARDIN CO.,KENTUCKY > > > > >For The Period Of Years 1793-1815 > > > > >Compiled by Annie Walker Burns (Bell) > > > > >Seat Pleasant, Maryland. 1935 > > > > > > > > > >Sely Figg and Mary Kykendale, October 6, 1804 > > > > >Isaac Haris and Mary Hubback, January 3, 1799 > > > > >Hezekiah Harris and Deborah Dorsey, February 4, 1814 > > > > > Greenberry Dorsey father of bride > > > > >Mahu Harris - Liddyia Gray, May 5, 1811 > > > > >Benjamin Harris and Elizabeth McMahan, October 22, 1810 > > > > >Jonathan Harris and Catherine Peters, march 23, 1797 > > > > >Isaac Hubback and Sarah Humphrey, February 4, 1798 > > > > >Silas Twedel and Nancy Harris, June 3, 1812 > > > > >Michael Yotster and Dorothy Harris, March 19, 1797 > > > > > > > > > >What Harris family line(s) are these fine people a part of? > > > > >Any insight is appreciated. 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Hi Mike .......... Sorry for that short reply. I started an e-mail and got called away and thought I hit the save button but I guess I was wrong. I think you're probably right about three wives for John Mayhew, but all of the children of Samuel and Susanah should really be documented . It's only hearsay and third handmedown info that everyone is working from.right now and it's really messing things up. You talked about land that was granted to John Meyhew for his service in the revolution. I wonder if you or anyone on the board has searched for the deeds or grants given men that fought in that war or the war of 1812. I have no idea how to go about it and now there is a better than "fair" chance that my 4th great grandfather came here from France with Lafayette. I'm almost possitive that all the land grants that Lafayette had to give out to his men was in PA. Does anyone know how to go about finding out? Getting back to the documentation on the Harris' Mike, do you know that any has been found for the children of Samuel? Thanks Regards, Larry ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Lamb" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2005 8:10 PM Subject: FW: Re: [KYHARDIN] Some Marriages In Hardin County, Kentucky, 1793-1815 > Hello Larry, > > Mayhew Harris did marry Mary (Polly) Patrick in 1791, but in the Grayson > County deaths listed > from 1852-1859 is Polly Cary age 70 died April 9, 1855 born Va. Parents were > Mayhew Harris > and Mary Harris. This would have put her birth at 1785. Kentucky would > have been part of > Virginia. And it shows that Mayhew Harris must have been married to another > Mary before > his 1791 marriage to Mary Patrick. The first marriage must be in the > Virginia records and > may be under John Mayhew Harris or John M Harris and possibly around the > year 1782 as > this was about when he turned 21 years old. He was probably living in the > Fort Nelson, Ky > area which is present day Louisville. The marriage could have taken place > on the Indiana > side of the river as he had land in the Clarksville area for his service > during the Revolutionary > War with George Rogers Clark. Question: Has anyone found any info on this > marriage? > Question #2: Would still like to know how Catherine (Peters) Harris and > Jonathan Harris > might have been connected? There doesn't seem to be any info on this > couple. > > Thanks, all for now, Mike Lamb > > > > >From: "L35321" <[email protected]> > >Reply-To: [email protected] > >To: [email protected] > >Subject: Re: [KYHARDIN] FW: [HH] Some Marriages In Hardin County, Kentucky, > >1793-1815 > >Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 09:00:34 -0700 > > > >Hello Mike > > > >Your Mayhew Harris that married Lydia Grey in 1811 was first married to > >Mary > >(Polly) Patrick in 1791. They had 5 boys. I don't have all of the birth > >dates, but Jacob was born in 1803. According to my notes this data came > >from > >the book "From here to Yonder" which you have. > > > >Regards, Larry > > > > > > > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "Mike Lamb" <[email protected]> > >To: <[email protected]> > >Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 2:35 PM > >Subject: [KYHARDIN] FW: [HH] Some Marriages In Hardin County, Kentucky, > >1793-1815 > > > > > > > Hello list, > > > I am seeking more information on Jonathan Harris and his wife > > > Catherine [Peters] Harris. They were present at the beginning > > > of the Beaver Dam Baptist church. First meeting was may 29th > > > 1804, also listed at this meeting was James Harris, Mayhew Harris > > > and possibly their wives but I don't know who to match with > > > who as this is a gray area in rebuilding this Harris line, listed are > > > Molly Harris and Nancy Harris, both of these Harris wives are > > > probably buried where that first church was in 1804 and > > > located in present day Grayson Co., KY. In the 1810 census > > > Mayhew Harris is listed with children and no wife and he marries > > > in 1811 Lydia Gray. James Harris I have listed as first wife as > > > Lydia Mellon married about 1792, daughter of Lawrence Giles. > > > For a second marriage I have James and Ann Giles! Were Lydia > > > and Anne Giles sisters? > > > Info on any of these Harrises would be appreciated! > > > Was Jonathan from a different line of Harrises and how are > > > Molly and Nancy Harris related? James and Mayhew were > > > sons of Samuel and Susannah [Mayhew] Harris. There is a > > > lot of info in the Hardin Co. rootsweb archives but nothing > > > that I could find on the questions above. > > > > > > Thanks, Mike Lamb > > > > > > >From: "Ira Harris" <[email protected]> > > > >To: [email protected] > > > >Subject: [HH] Some Marriages In Hardin County, Kentucky, 1793-1815 > > > >Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 13:15:02 -0500 > > > > > > > >Source: > > > >RECORD OF MARRIAGES IN HARDIN CO.,KENTUCKY > > > >For The Period Of Years 1793-1815 > > > >Compiled by Annie Walker Burns (Bell) > > > >Seat Pleasant, Maryland. 1935 > > > > > > > >Sely Figg and Mary Kykendale, October 6, 1804 > > > >Isaac Haris and Mary Hubback, January 3, 1799 > > > >Hezekiah Harris and Deborah Dorsey, February 4, 1814 > > > > Greenberry Dorsey father of bride > > > >Mahu Harris - Liddyia Gray, May 5, 1811 > > > >Benjamin Harris and Elizabeth McMahan, October 22, 1810 > > > >Jonathan Harris and Catherine Peters, march 23, 1797 > > > >Isaac Hubback and Sarah Humphrey, February 4, 1798 > > > >Silas Twedel and Nancy Harris, June 3, 1812 > > > >Michael Yotster and Dorothy Harris, March 19, 1797 > > > > > > > >What Harris family line(s) are these fine people a part of? > > > >Any insight is appreciated. Please respond through HH so that others > >may > >be > > > >helped. > > > > > > > >Ira L. Harris III > > > >Evansville, Indiana > > > > > > > > > > > >==== HARRIS-HUNTERS Mailing List ==== > > > >HH Archives: http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > > > >HH Site: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~confido/hindex2.htm > > > >HH Data Base: http://wc.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=harrishunters > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== KYHARDIN Mailing List ==== > > > If you wish to unsubscribe from the Hardin Co., KY Mailing List, send > >only > >the word > > > UNSUBSCRIBE to [email protected] or if you are on the > >Digest > > > List to [email protected] > > > > > > ============================== > > > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > > > areas they lived. 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Hi Mike ......... Your right about the 10 year gap. I have Mayhew being born (about) 1761 and most boys married at 20 or 21 in that period ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Lamb" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2005 8:10 PM Subject: FW: Re: [KYHARDIN] Some Marriages In Hardin County, Kentucky, 1793-1815 > Hello Larry, > > Mayhew Harris did marry Mary (Polly) Patrick in 1791, but in the Grayson > County deaths listed > from 1852-1859 is Polly Cary age 70 died April 9, 1855 born Va. Parents were > Mayhew Harris > and Mary Harris. This would have put her birth at 1785. Kentucky would > have been part of > Virginia. And it shows that Mayhew Harris must have been married to another > Mary before > his 1791 marriage to Mary Patrick. The first marriage must be in the > Virginia records and > may be under John Mayhew Harris or John M Harris and possibly around the > year 1782 as > this was about when he turned 21 years old. He was probably living in the > Fort Nelson, Ky > area which is present day Louisville. The marriage could have taken place > on the Indiana > side of the river as he had land in the Clarksville area for his service > during the Revolutionary > War with George Rogers Clark. Question: Has anyone found any info on this > marriage? > Question #2: Would still like to know how Catherine (Peters) Harris and > Jonathan Harris > might have been connected? There doesn't seem to be any info on this > couple. > > Thanks, all for now, Mike Lamb > > > > >From: "L35321" <[email protected]> > >Reply-To: [email protected] > >To: [email protected] > >Subject: Re: [KYHARDIN] FW: [HH] Some Marriages In Hardin County, Kentucky, > >1793-1815 > >Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 09:00:34 -0700 > > > >Hello Mike > > > >Your Mayhew Harris that married Lydia Grey in 1811 was first married to > >Mary > >(Polly) Patrick in 1791. They had 5 boys. I don't have all of the birth > >dates, but Jacob was born in 1803. According to my notes this data came > >from > >the book "From here to Yonder" which you have. > > > >Regards, Larry > > > > > > > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "Mike Lamb" <[email protected]> > >To: <[email protected]> > >Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 2:35 PM > >Subject: [KYHARDIN] FW: [HH] Some Marriages In Hardin County, Kentucky, > >1793-1815 > > > > > > > Hello list, > > > I am seeking more information on Jonathan Harris and his wife > > > Catherine [Peters] Harris. They were present at the beginning > > > of the Beaver Dam Baptist church. First meeting was may 29th > > > 1804, also listed at this meeting was James Harris, Mayhew Harris > > > and possibly their wives but I don't know who to match with > > > who as this is a gray area in rebuilding this Harris line, listed are > > > Molly Harris and Nancy Harris, both of these Harris wives are > > > probably buried where that first church was in 1804 and > > > located in present day Grayson Co., KY. In the 1810 census > > > Mayhew Harris is listed with children and no wife and he marries > > > in 1811 Lydia Gray. James Harris I have listed as first wife as > > > Lydia Mellon married about 1792, daughter of Lawrence Giles. > > > For a second marriage I have James and Ann Giles! Were Lydia > > > and Anne Giles sisters? > > > Info on any of these Harrises would be appreciated! > > > Was Jonathan from a different line of Harrises and how are > > > Molly and Nancy Harris related? James and Mayhew were > > > sons of Samuel and Susannah [Mayhew] Harris. There is a > > > lot of info in the Hardin Co. rootsweb archives but nothing > > > that I could find on the questions above. > > > > > > Thanks, Mike Lamb > > > > > > >From: "Ira Harris" <[email protected]> > > > >To: [email protected] > > > >Subject: [HH] Some Marriages In Hardin County, Kentucky, 1793-1815 > > > >Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 13:15:02 -0500 > > > > > > > >Source: > > > >RECORD OF MARRIAGES IN HARDIN CO.,KENTUCKY > > > >For The Period Of Years 1793-1815 > > > >Compiled by Annie Walker Burns (Bell) > > > >Seat Pleasant, Maryland. 1935 > > > > > > > >Sely Figg and Mary Kykendale, October 6, 1804 > > > >Isaac Haris and Mary Hubback, January 3, 1799 > > > >Hezekiah Harris and Deborah Dorsey, February 4, 1814 > > > > Greenberry Dorsey father of bride > > > >Mahu Harris - Liddyia Gray, May 5, 1811 > > > >Benjamin Harris and Elizabeth McMahan, October 22, 1810 > > > >Jonathan Harris and Catherine Peters, march 23, 1797 > > > >Isaac Hubback and Sarah Humphrey, February 4, 1798 > > > >Silas Twedel and Nancy Harris, June 3, 1812 > > > >Michael Yotster and Dorothy Harris, March 19, 1797 > > > > > > > >What Harris family line(s) are these fine people a part of? > > > >Any insight is appreciated. Please respond through HH so that others > >may > >be > > > >helped. > > > > > > > >Ira L. Harris III > > > >Evansville, Indiana > > > > > > > > > > > >==== HARRIS-HUNTERS Mailing List ==== > > > >HH Archives: http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > > > >HH Site: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~confido/hindex2.htm > > > >HH Data Base: http://wc.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=harrishunters > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== KYHARDIN Mailing List ==== > > > If you wish to unsubscribe from the Hardin Co., KY Mailing List, send > >only > >the word > > > UNSUBSCRIBE to [email protected] or if you are on the > >Digest > > > List to [email protected] > > > > > > ============================== > > > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > > > areas they lived. 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This was taken from the Meade County Messenger June 29, 2005 Yesteryear 98 years ago this week: After undergoing a number of hardships on the way, Joseph Shelton, who will be twenty-four years old in October, and Miss Maud Fowler, who was eighteen a few days ago, reached Jeffersonville yesterday and were married by Magistrate Charles S. Ferguson after eloping from Rock Haven, Meade County, Ky. Part of the journey was made on foot and a portion of it on a train. For several miles they were pur- sued by the father of Miss Fowler but for some reason he gave up the chase. The bride is a pretty young woman and was attired in a white duck suit that she slipped out of her home and carried with her in a bundle until she reached Louisville, where she dressed for the wedding, says Sunday's Courier-Journal. In her hurry to get away, Miss Fowler left home without a hat but in Louisville borrowed one from a friend un- til she could get a new one, which was purchased by her prospective husband.

-----Original Message----- From: MacCay [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Friday, July 01, 2005 4:39 PM To: [email protected] Subject: KY FGS's Do you have your Kentucky families online? The Family Group Sheet Project is a good place to let everyone know what family information you have and what you are still looking for. In June we had 560+ searches in Kentucky alone. That number is growing. As the Kentucky state FGS coordinator I would like to invite everyone to send in at least one and more if you have them for your Kentucky kin. I promise to get them online as soon as possible. You will find the submission form at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~usfgs/states.html Thanks, Kay Griffin Snow

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Walker, Evans, Fox, Guthrie Classification: Obituary Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/2AB.2ACI/5024 Message Board Post: Theresa Lynn "Teri" Walker (age 47) of Reston, VA died of cancer on June 29, 2005. Teri was born May 12, 1958 in Louisville, KY. She earned a degree in fine arts from George Washington University and pursued a career as a graphic artist for De Le Rue Security Products in Dulles, VA. Surviving are her parents, Dr. Glenn A. Walker of Reston, VA and Lois Peak Walker of Columbia, MD; sister, Mary Michelle Walker of Odenton, MD; sister, Christine Walker Evans of Alexandria, VA; brother and sister-in-law, David Neil and Marci Walker and their children, Ryan and Jillian Walker of Apex, NC and grandmother, Mary A. Walker of Elizabethtown, KY. Colleen Fox of Odenton, MD and Lorraine Guthrie of Reston, VA are a part of the grieving family. A Funeral Mass will be held at St. Clare in Colesburg, KY with interment in St. James Cemetery in Elizabethtown, KY on Saturday, July 2, 2005. The family asks that expressions of sympathy be sent to support Ovarian Cancer Research Fund, 14 Pennsylva! nia Pl., Suite 1400, New York, NY 10122 or to Hospice of the Chesapeake, 445 Defense Hwy., Annapolis, MD 21401. -THE WASHINGTON POST (DC), 01 July

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: RINEY Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/2AB.2ACI/5014.2.2.1.1.1.1.1.1 Message Board Post: Pam I tried emailing it to your email address but it bounced back. Do you have another? Do me a favor and email me at: [email protected] and I'll email you the info. Nina