Greenup Researchers, I have just updated the Greenup County, KyGenWeb site at http://www.rootsweb.com/~kygreenu The automated obituary system is now available as well as several other new items. I will be converting some cemetery records today or tomorrow to HTML for inclusion on our site. Thank you, Darrell Smith -- Darrell L. Smith - dsmith@mis.net Greenup County KyGenWeb Coordinator http://www.rootsweb.com/~kygreenu View the Web site for instructions on joining our Discussion List!

Greenup Researchers, The automated query system is experiencing a few problems. The application that makes the technology work was written in Perl language. From my personal experience I can tell you that sometimes Perl can become a system resource hog which is the case on the RootsWeb server at this time. I have been notified by our state coordinator that the query system will be moved to a more powerful system very soon. I suspect everything will be in working order again by Wednesday or Thursday. You should however expect some "down" time during this transition. The Greenup County KyGenWeb site is running behind schedule for site updates. I spent this past week and part of the weekend moving to my new home. We are in the new location now, but still have a few boxes to unpack before everything is back to normal. I plan on updating the Greenup site tomorrow. We will have quite a few surnames to add to the list, some database changes that folks have submitted, a link to the Greenup County War Memorial, a new automated obituary system (provided they have this resource back online) and more, so stop by tomorrow evening if you have a chance. Thank you for patience. Darrell -- Darrell L. Smith - dsmith@mis.net Greenup County KyGenWeb Coordinator http://www.rootsweb.com/~kygreenu View the Web site for instructions on joining our Discussion List!

Seeking info on parents of George Ernest DARBY b. in Ashland Ky area in 1865.George married Helen Virginia THOMAS b. 1878 in Stinson,Ky dau.of William and Sarah Thomas THOMPSON. Helen and George later divorced and she married an Unknown CLINE. Children of George and Helen are: Sarah Darby m. Dock ENGLAND Earl Darby Ernest George Darby m. Bessie May COLLINS Sherman Darby m.Margaret COLLINS May Darby m.Roland CAMPBELL John Curtis Darby m. Bessie Inez SMITH Claude Darby Pearl Darby Sherry Crawford Dansher@tkdyer.com

Greenup researchers (now 72 of us), I wanted to let the group know that I will be adding an automed obituary page to the Greenup County KyGenWeb site sometime tomorrow (probably evening). This new service will work exactly like the automated query system. Everyone is encouraged to "dig-up" those old Greenup County obituaries and to post them to the new automated system. I will also be updating the surname list tomorrow and answering some Greenup-related email that I accumulated during the big snow storm in Eastern KY. Happy Hunting! Darrell -- Darrell L. Smith - dsmith@mis.net Greenup County KyGenWeb Coordinator http://www.rootsweb.com/~kygreenu View the Web site for instructions on joining our Discussion List!

Hi All, I am the Lawrence Co., OH Genweb Coordinator and I have started a Mailing list for Lawrence co., OH! This will give you another avenue to share our common lines with all who have ancestors who were in Lawrence Co., OH. So please pass the word around! I appreciate all your support! To subscribe to the Mailing list for Lawrence co., OH email: OHLAWREN-L-request@rootsweb.com In the body text only type the word Subscribe. Once you are subscribed you will get email comfirming that. You will receive every messeage that is posted on this list. If you perfer the digest mode, which means several messeages that are posted will be combined in one email. Then email: OHLAWREN-D-request@rootsweb.com In the body text type the word Subscribe. Heather W. Bowers

I am looking for a David White who was born in VA owned property on the Big Sandy River m. a Sarah Osborn or a Sarah Parsons was listed in the 1820 Greenup Census removed to Johnson Co. IN and bought two tracts of land in 1824 and listed Laurens KY as his residence. He was listed in the 1830 Census of Johnson Co. IN, He was to remove to Dewitt Co. Il abt 1843 and died. I have one Abstract that listed a David White m. a Sarah Osborn Sep 22, 1814 in Greenup Co. Sarah is also listed as m. a Daniel White. Sarah's father was william Osborn and his will list Sarah White. Problem: Threre is a Bio on this couple that list Sarah as a Parson. I have attempted but have been unable to receive the original marriage record. Did David marry Sarah Osborn or Sarah Parson or maybe Sarah was a widow. Any information out there? Joe osborn@airmail.net

Hi, I'm looking for anyone with information about the following Phelps lines, Abram's wife is listed as widowed in the 1880 Greenup census, Andrew and family are gone in 1880, whereabouts unknown: on the 1870 Greenup Co. KY. Census, pg. 28 : 385 Phelps, Andrew J. age 40 M W Collier Born in Ohio. Mary " 35 F W Housekeeping OH. Samantha E. 15 F W Attending School David H. 13 M W Attending School William A. 12 M W Attending School Findley 10 M W Attending School Effidee 6 F W At Home Bradley, Ira T. 32 M W Iron Ore Miner 386 Phelps, Abram 42 M W Collier Born in Ohio Anna 36 F W Housekeeping OH. Caroline 18 F W Seamtress Ohio Evaline 16 F W Attending School KY. Isabells 14 F W Attending School KY. Newton 12 M W Attending School KY. James V. 10 M W Attending School KY. Jennie 8 F W At Home KY. Harrison 2 M W At Home KY. Thanks for any help. Ron in IL -- Ron Phelps r-phelps@uiuc.edu

Greetings to: Fellow Boyd, Carter, Greenup, and Lewis County Genealogists My queries are for following families: LEE, RICHARD b: 1760 Washington Co., PA d: 01-18-1888 Wood Co., VA m: JENNINGS, NANCY b: 1779 (?) d: 07-12-1853 Wood Co., VA LEE, WILSON b: 1799 Wood Co., VA d: ? (?) m: D(?)), SARAH b: 1804 Wood Co., VA d: 1880 (?) LEE, GREENBRIER "GREEN" b: 05-05-1825 Wood Co., VA d: 02-1886 Greenup Co., KY m: TUMBLESON, LUCINDA b: 1827 (?) d: 03-28-1883 Greenup Co., KY LEE, HELEN VIRGINIA b: 08-1858 (?) d: (?) Greenup Co., KY ....................................... WOOTEN, CHARLES b: (?) Ash Co., NC d: (?) (?) m: SMITH, FANNY b: (?) (?) d: (?) (?) Issue: WOOTEN, RANDALL WOOTEN, JONAS WOOTEN, VICE WOOTEN, SARAH WOOTEN, JANE WOOTEN, JONATHAN WOOTEN, PRESTON WOOTEN, ALBERT WOOTEN, STEPHEN WOOTEN, THOMAS WOOTEN, MARY b: 1809 (?) d: (?) (?) m: HORSELY, WILLIAM b: (?) (?) d: (?) (?) m: KNOX, MARY ANN b: 1777 VA d: (?) Issue: HORSELY, RACHEL HORSELY, ELIZABETH "BETTY" HORSELY, TALITHA b: 06-17-1817 HORSLEY, FIELDEN CALUMINISE b: 06-17-1824 HORSLEY, HIRAM b: 1809 Carter Co., KY d: (?) Pike Co., OH m: WOOTEN, MARY b: 1809 (?) Issue: HORSELY, AMANDA b: 1831 HORSELY, EMILY b: 1833 HORSELY, MARY LOUISA b: 1835 HORSELY, CYNTHIANA b: 1837 HORSELY, STEPHEN C. b: 02-01-1838 HORSELY, SILAS b: 1841 HORSELY, DAVIS W. "D.W." b: 06-12-1855 Carter Co., KY d: 1926 Pike Co., OH m: CARPER, EUGENIE b: 09-18-1872 New Castle, Craig Co., VA d: 1945 Portsmouth, Scioto Co., OH Issue: HORSLEY, ALBERT HORSLEY, BYRD HORSLEY, EULAH HORSLEY, OLLIE HORSLEY, WILLIAM ARTHUR "WILLIE" HORSLEY, CHARLOTTE "LOTTIE' HORSLEY, PAYTON A. b: 04-02-1902 HORSLEY, MALLIE MARIE "MARIE" d: 11-07-1906 HORSLEY, DOVIE HELEN b: 05-29-1909 I would be glad to share my information. Thank you for your time and effort. Cheryl Felty-Bush Jacksonville, FL originally from Greenup Co., KY

Reference query posted by Frances Gillis Gossett, on several surnames, which one of them was Hall. Send me a full name of your Hall with birth date and i will see what i can do. I have surnames of Greenup, Carter, Elliott, Lawrence Counties of Eastern Kentucky. I have a lot of Evans, Maggard, Pennington, (My Leadingham) Stewart, Fannin, Adkins of Carter co., Well of Wells Branch Carter co. some Robinson, Roberts, Hamilton, Parsons, and Allied families of Eastern Kentucky. I am Paul Leadingham of Frederick, MD., but born and raised in Eastern Kentucky. I am retired so i can help rsearchers with their Eastern Kentucky surnames. It is nice to see so many researchers placing their information in this discussion Web Page. Paul Leadingham, Leadingham Family Historian for Leadingham's every where.

I am looking for info on Jacob CAIN and his daughter, Mary CAIN. Mary married Andrew HOOD on October 19, 1805 in Greenup. I have info on the HOOD line but I can nothing on the CAINS. Thanks, Carolyn Wright

Greetings! I am researching the IRWIN surname, which appears to have settled in Old Town, in Greenup County back in the late 1800s. I show my branch of the family there in the 1870 census, but not in the 1850 census. I have traced my gr-gr-grandfather James C. IRWIN Sr. back to his birth in Ross County, Ohio in 1823. He was married to Sarah A. WILSON, who was born in 1829 in Pennsylvania. James C. Sr.'s father's name was supposed to have been James Hughes IRWIN (spouse as yet unknown), born in 1802 in Ross County, Ohio. James Hughes Irwin's father's name was supposed to have been John IRWIN (b. 1770). John's spouse was Anna STEELE. I would really like to make the link backwards from James C. IRWIN Sr. more concrete, and maybe identify when my family came to America. I am also looking into the CURRY and CAUDILL surnames. Any help appreciated. Thanks, Mike Irwin (mirwin@cinergy.com) http://www.geocities.com/heartland/2717/ (personal home page) http://www.geocities.com/heartland/meadows/2717/ (genealogy)

Hello, I'm looking for info on the following surnames: GILLIS NOYES SHURTLEFF RAILSBACK FARRIS McCULLOCK FENSTIMAKER DAUMBAULD HARBOUGH HALL WEBBER MANLIEF CHASE MERRILL WHEELER MILLIKEN KETCHAN PRINCE STATEN KUNSHIER GROSS or GRACE Most of these names are end of the line names I would like to Thank any one for any help what so ever. Frances Gillis Gossett grams@ohiovalley.com

Glad to hear the list is off and running! You've all been a big help to me, since I live near San Francisco, and even though the Mormon Family History Center in Oakland is one of the biggest outside Salt Lake City, it still has little information from eastern Kentucky. Nothing beats having help right in the neighborhood you're trying to study..... I'm a descendant of John Haymond and Cassandra Wilcoxin NICHOLS/NICHOLLS, who are said to have arrived in Greenup around 1800. Like Carolyn Kemp in Michigan, I believe our line came through Reuben or Joseph R. NICHOLS born about 1814, in Virginia or Kentucky. who married Rebecca Stevens or Stephens about 1835. The family appears in Morgan County for the 1850 and 1860 census - under the incorrect spelling in their case of NICKELL - but later records show most of the family in Greenup County. Much of the family mystery surrounds Rebecca STEPHENS. She is sometimes said to have been Indian, part Indian, or perhaps a captive of Indians. One researcher believes she may be a descendant of a Stevens family from early Jamestown, VA who were shown then as "mulatto." We wonder if they may not have been Melungeon and Powhatan or Pamunkey Indian. But, my GGrandfather was Riley NICHOLS - in younger years often shown as William R. - who married Maggie BROWN of the Morgan County BROWNs 27 Mar 1876 in Greenup County. My BROWN family cousins tell me that the family freely acknowledged that they were Melungeon and Lumbee Indian, and family photographs make it quite credible. I believe Riley was born Mar 1850 in Morgan County. He died June 15, 1922 in Greenup and was buried at the Caroline Cemetery in Russell. Maggie or Madge was the daughter of Alford T. and Sarah or Julie FANNIN BROWN of Morgan and Magoffin counties. I gather the relationship between Riley and Maggie was a stormy one....Maggie was granted a divorce from Riley in 1906, and a year later, she married Hiram or Henry MOORE, but it appears she and Hiram/Henry already had three daughters ... Maud, Nanny and Dovie May MOORE. My grandmother was Dora Bell NICHOLS, born 26 Nov 1878, apparently in Greenupsburg. She traveled with other family members to Michigan, and while there, married her cousin Jesse NICHOLS, son of her uncle, Jessie NICHOLS, Sr. on 27 Feb 1900 in Antrim County, MI. The couple appears to have had two sons ... Emery Jackson NICHOLS, b. 1900, who may have died young, and Cecil John Rhodes NICHOLS, born 1902. Family notes say Cecil was born in Jackson, Ohio, but no one has ever been able to find a record of his birth there. I'm wondering now if it might have been Jackson, Michigan or Jackson, Kentucky? We also have no idea what happened to Jesse, Jr. - he appears to have left that area of Michigan in 1902. But, in 1906, Dora Bell married again, to Ebenezer - "E. E." - PETERS of Kanawha County, WV and the couple settled in Washington state by late 1908. Ebenezer, born 1878, was the son of John W. and Virginia STANLEY PETERS of West Virginia ... the family seems to have been in the Cabin Creek area for many years before the 1880 census. I need to explain that my mother, Virginia Lee PETERS, who died earlier this month, was estranged from her family as far as we knew from the late 1920's, and suffered from a severe dissociative disorder. She apparently had psychogenic amnesia for most of her childhood ... it was so horrendous that her mind had just blanked out most all of her memory up until the time she married our father. After her death, what papers and photographs she had not destroyed in those last few weeks seem to show that she carried on a secret correspondance with at least some distant family members, but that seems to have stopped sometime in the 1980's. But, when I began attempting to research her family several years back, she could [or would] tell me nothing more than her mother's name of Dora Bell NICHOLS and her birthplace as Green something, Kentucky... which as you locals know, could be at least half of the state! Her half-brother Cecil NICHOLS died in the 1960's in Portland, OR, and she never saw or heard from her older sister Edith Irene PETERS after about 1927 ... we located Edith's last address, but she and her husband had both passed away ... and their one daughter had known absolutely nothing about her mother's true background ... she'd even had her name legally changed when she was 18 from Edith Irene Peters to Dawnaline GRAY. We know that some descendants of Maggie and Riley, through their daughter Amanda NICHOLS, live in the Chicago area and have been there since the early 20's, at least, but they will not answer my letters. I understand that members of the family still live in the Greenup area, or across the river in the Portsmouth area, but have not been able to gain any information from those I've tried to contact. I believe that the children of Riley and Maggie NICHOLS were Dora Bell, Minnie, Edward R., Amanda and possibly Anna S. [Mrs. Harley GATES of Cincinnatti]. Would be happy to share what I have found in my searching with anyone else researching these lines. My main research is for AUXIER, BROWN, CLAY, COFFEY/COFFEE, FANNIN, HAYMOND, NICHOLS/NICHOLLS and NICKELL - 2 different lines, PETERS, PRATHER/PRATER, STANLEY, STEPHENS/STEVENS and WILCOXIN as well as CHRISTOPHER, EDMONDSON/EDMONSTON, GOLDSMITH [1630], HORNBECK, LACEY, MARTIN, NEVILLE, ROSS, WALKER and YATES [abt 1670] Jeannie Vaughan PO Box 365 Byron, CA 94514-0365 _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. 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When we were reading cemetery stones not to long ago, we used shaving cream which was great and made them very readable. When I got my pictures back, they were really bad. So for me the shaving cream is best for reading but I'll stick with the old "sandstone trick" for pictures, they turn out great. Melissa

Seeking any information about MARTIN SMITH who came out of Prince Edward Co., VA in the 1790s and settled near the town of Greenup, either on, or not far from the Ohio River. His wife was Nancy (or Margrete) PRICE. They had only one daughter, Elizabeth, known as Betsy, who married John C. KOUNS. # In Prince Edward Co. the family lived near the campus of Hampden Sydney College. John Culley jahno@pipeline.com

Greenup Researchers, You will be happy to know that our list is growing very nicely. I checked our status this morning and discovered that we now have 19 subscribers in digest mode and 41 in mail mode, bringing our total to 60! Now is a perfect time to start posting those queries! I have already heard a couple of success stories with subscribers who are now sharing family related information with one another. This is great news. If you make a connection via the list, drop us a note and tell us about your success. Often times another's success story is the motivating factor for a query from someone who would not normally not post to the list. I would also like to take this opportunity to offer a topic of discussion. This topic is not necessarily focused at just Greenup County, KY, but should certainly be of interest to the majority of researchers. What methods do you use to read cemetery markers? I have heard a lot of interesting input in this area and I would like to see what our subscribers have tried in the past. What has worked the best, what has failed and what kind of tips would you recommend for those just getting started reading cemeteries? Awaiting your replies to KYGREENU-L@rootsweb.com Thank you, Darrell -- Darrell L. Smith - dsmith@mis.net Greenup County KyGenWeb Coordinator http://www.rootsweb.com/~kygreenu View the Web site for instructions on joining our Discussion List!

Thanks, Patricia ..... I have to agree with you. It may be boring and time-consuming for many subscribers to read these personal letters, but it was through a personal memorial to her great grandmother that I was able to find the one link in my lines that had had me up against the proverbial wall for years. I answered the woman that her GGM sounded so much like the mystery woman in our own collection of family photos ... even to her unusual style of dress and jewelry. And after a few electronic conversations, I went on, to scan that photograph and send it to her. And, her family recognized the photo immediately ... It was great grandmother's favorite cousin, and that same photo had sat on her mantel as long as they could remember! Same name, same age and same general locality as the woman I was searching for all these years. One little comment on a civil record had directed me to the wrong county, and I'd wasted years, looking in the wrong place. Suddenly, I had a whole county full of relatives! Jeannie _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]

Hello all, Since we have a good discussion going on the BROWN family right now, I'll post a query related to my BROWN family. I have a direct ancestor (which I haven't researched much yet) named Caroline BROWN (26 Oct 1854 in KY - 10 Jan 1926 in Greenup Co., KY.) Caroline is the daughter of Christopher BROWN and Rebecca GILES/JILES. She married David Russell ENGLAND (28 Jun 1854 in KY - 14 Jan 1929 Greenup Co., KY) on 20 Oct 1877 in Greenup Co., KY. David Russell ENGLAND is the son of Samuel ENGLAND and Rebecca [maiden listed as BROWN on death certificate, but I'm skeptical]. Caroline, David, Samuel and Rebecca are all buried in the Rude Cemetery, Flatwoods, Greenup Co., KY I have more information on the ENGLAND family for those interested. However, I would like to learn more about Caroline's father Christopher BROWN. Based on the 1860 to 1880 Greenup Co., KY Census, Christopher would have been born about 1824 in KY. Does anyone have information on this BROWN line? Thanks, Darrell -- Darrell Smith dsmith@mis.net

Hi Mary, Jean and all, This is going to be my last note on this subject before someone gets mad and tells me notes of this type should be sent privately, rather than to the list. And they're probably right. As you both said, our roots normally take a lot of different turns, and usually reveal some ethnic backgrounds and disreputable or unsavory ancestors that some people, even today, would like to deny. Facts are facts, everyone's ancestors were not officers during the Civil War or during the Revolutionary War, most were privates, and all were not heroes, many were cowards or deserters. Great grandma didn't really have a child at 54 and then another at 58, did you notice she had daughters in their 20s? Back to the subject of genealogy, my eastern KY families are BLAIR, DAY, FANNIN, ELLINGTON, MCBRAYER & GILLUM. My gr gr grandfather, David BLAIR, died in Greenup Co. sometime between 1870 & 1880, anybody know more about this? Jean, I'm going to send a separate note with what I have on Sarah Fannin's ancestors. . -- Dave Dollard e-mail: dollard@cdmnet.com or dollard@primary.net Dollard Family Genealogy Page: http://www3.primary.net/~dollard/

Dave dollard@cdmnet.com (Dave Dollard) wrote: >This is going to be my last note on this subject before someone gets mad and tells me notes of this type should be sent privately, >rather than to the list. And they're probably right. I, for one, really like to see things like this on the list. Many times I've found good links in seemingly irrelevant to me posts to a list. Often, too, they sometimes jog a memory or give a different slant to an issue or give clues for searching that you may never have considered......just my opinion. :) Patricia pjston@aol.com