Actually, Cathy, its more of a Clark Family Bible. Sara Frances Clark b. 23 Mar 1847 (2 Ely L. Clark; 1 James Clark) + Simon McKendry Sipple b 10 Mar 1846 (6 James M.; 5 John Sipple, Sr.; 4 Caleb Sipple; 3 John Sipple; 2 John Sipple; 1 Garrett Sipple). Sara Frances and Mack, as he was called, moved to California in 1878. Sara Frances kept a bible of her generation of Clarks. It lists her siblings (including two who died in infancy), the death dates of her parents, their marriage date. All stuff I have already posted to the list. She also had a wonderful tin type picture of Ely with his beard and his long rifle. Lots of pictures of women but I can't identify them - she, of course, didn't mark them. Just like she wrote her mother's name as "Mary E." She didn't have to fill in the rest because she knew. My grandmother, Susie Mae Sipple Elder, was their daughter and she had the Bible until I absconded with it. It fascinated me and I repeatedly ask her about her family and the trip to California (she was 8) and what she remembered about Grant County. She would not answer. Tight lipped. Closed mouth. Huffy expression: "You better not. You just don't know what you might find back there." Later, one of my Aunts tells me that Grandma told her that there was a murdered in the family back in KY on the Sipple side. Now Mack was born in Harrison Co. His dad, James, was the only one of the crew who settled there. But Mack removed to Grant County and stayed there until he removed again to Tulare Co., CA. So I think the infamous ancestor may have been one of his siblings. If it had happened in Grant Co. one of you cousins would have heard about it. I sure wish I had access to the Harrison and Grant County criminal court records. It would be so much fun to know. I just love being descended from Garrett Sipple who committed an unspecified misdemeanor in court and repeated busted for drunk and riotous behavior. So much more fun that all those preachers... Cheers. Cousin Judie ll those preachers... Cheers. Cousin Judie=20

When did this murder take place, you all must be talking off this site, or I am not being sent all messages? I know about a murder, not mentioning either surname, that happened in Grant Co., this century. I know several people connected with this family (alive and doing well) and would never comment. Just wondering, Bonnie

Judie, You have a Sipple Family Bible? Cathy Judie French wrote: > Well, Joy...I have a photocopy of the census and I went over to Kinkos and > blew it up a million percent so I could really read it, the reason being > that bad handwriting gave me fits. > > I was looking for my GGrandfather and could not find him anywhere. I have > the family bible and it says that his name was McKendry Sipple and he was > born in Harrison Co. Practically went blind from looking and zip, nada, > nothing. So, I finally hired this really nice researcher. She had some > trouble, but finally found him in the 1850 and 1860 census just like I knew > he was supposed to be. Except he was listed as Simeon Mc and the c was so > little and up high near the top of the M that it looked like Simeon M. > > In the three birth records we could find, his mother's name looked like Mary > McGuire and several people accepted this and posted to LDS files. My > professional said, "Nope. It's McGuin." I blew it up and she was right, sure > enough. > > Also, folks. Earlier today I posted a marriage bond for Ely L. Clark and it > was correct except that the bride was Mary Elizabeth Draper. Sorry... > > Judie in Oregon where it is 78 and wonderful... > > ==== KYGRANT Mailing List ==== > At last a chance to make my skeletons dance! > Genealogy goes on... and on... and on...

Andy details on Sarah Ashcraft or Eleanor Ashcraft? Judie in wonderful Oregon

Dear Sandy, I am sorry that it took me a couple of days to get back to you. Thank you so much for the lookup. The Margaret and James you found with infant George is spelled Beech on the 1880 Census. This is my family. James had a brother named John Beech (or Beach born ca. 1844/5). I have no idea of what happened to him. He had two sisters named Susan and Catherine. An older sister born ca. 1839/40 married a man named Birch (or Burch) and they had a son named Stephen who was living with James Beech in 1880 in Jonesville. James parents were Dinah Stafford born 1822 (I believe in Woodford County, KY) and Henry Beach born 1810 either in Woodford or Fayette Counties. Dinah Stafford's mother was named Mary Stafford and she was born somewhere in KY in 1800. Both Dinah and her mother died in Elliston sometime between 1870-1880. The Webster side is easier to find. John Christopher Webster was in a fight in Grant County in 1856/7 and I believe hauled into court. Someone bit off his ear. He was born in 1825 in Jessamine County and was married to Elizabeth Kennedy born 1832 in Woodford County. They moved to Grant County in 1853. Margaret had an older brother born in 1849 named John Taylor Webster and a twin sister named Alonza Webster who was also born in 1851. She had 13 other siblings including Lewis Christopher Webster who was married in Grant County. If you come across anything else on these people I sure would love to have it. There is much confusion on this line because of the Beach Book and the author connected my line back to the wrong James Beach. There were two of them one in Gallatin County who married Nancy Collins and my line in Grant County who married Margaret Webster. Thanks again. I appreciate all you effort and help. Take care, MichaelAnne

Hi Bonnie and all list members, As promised here is my data and sources for the descendants of Rev. William Harrison Sipple and Nancy Ashcraft. I know it will take me a few days to add all the new information which was generously provided over weekend. Warren Generation One 1. Rev. William Harrison1 Sipple; born 25 Feb 1813 in HarrisonCounty, Kentucky;<1>,<2>,<3>,<4>,<5> married Nancy Ashcraft, daughter of Ichabod Ashcraft and Elizabeth Wharton, 4 Jul 1833 in Grant County, Kentucky;<6>,<7> married Elizabeth Brown Medley 11 Dec 1855 in Owen County, Kentucky;<8> died 4 Aug 1873 in Calloway County, Missouri, at age 60.<9>,<10> His Ancestral File Number is CRF5-9J.<11> He lived in 1857 in Tuscola, Douglas County, Illinois.<12> Children of Rev. William Harrison1 Sipple and Nancy Ashcraft all born in Grant County, Kentucky, were as follows: 2 i.Amelia Elizabeth2 Sipple; born 28 May 1834;<13> married William Beverly;<14> died 13 May 1877 in Grant County, Kentucky, at age 42;<15> buried in Sipple Cemetary, Grant County, Kentucky.<16> 3 ii.Martha Ann Sipple; born 6 Feb 1836;<17> married W. A. Ashcraft;<18> died 13 Jan 1914 in Williamstown, Grant County, Kentucky, at age 77.<19>,<20> 4 iii.Caleb Walker Sipple; born 8 Sep 1837;<21> died 21 Nov 1850 at age 13.<22>,<23> 5 iv.William Henry Sipple; born 22 Jan 1839;<24> died 1896 in Oklahoma Land Rush.<25> 6 v.John Ichabod Sipple; born 1 Oct 1841;<26> died 7 Oct 1919 in Parsons, Kansas, at age 78.<27> + 7 vi.Gilby Kelly Sipple, born 12 Mar 1844; married Naomy A. Pribble; married Mollie Brady. 8 vii.Mary Beverly Sipple; born 14 Apr 1847;<28> died 22 Nov 1850 in Grant County, Kentucky, at age 3.<29> 9 viii.Sarah Jane Sipple; born 3 Sep 1850;<30> married Rev. (--?--) Barnett;<31> died 17 Sep 1927 in Fayette, Howard County, Missouri, at age 77.<32> + 10 ix.Lewis Harper Sipple, born 17 Nov 1853; married Anna Railey Mildred. 11 x.Child Sipple; born 9 Dec 1854;<33>,<34> buried in Sipple Cemetary, Grant County, Kentucky.<35> His Ancestral File Number is 19TQ-W5X.<36> 12 xi.Baby Girl Sipple; born Jun 1855;<37> buried in Sipple Cemetary, Grant County, Kentucky.<38> Children of Rev. William Harrison1 Sipple and Elizabeth Brown Medley were as follows: 13 i.Albert Breckridge2 Sipple; born 23 Jan 1857 in Grant County, Kentucky;<39> died 7 Oct 1925 in Parsons, Kansas, at age 68.<40> 14 ii.James Medley Sipple; born 26 Nov 1858 in Tuscola, Douglas County, Illinois;<41> died 28 Nov 1946 in Mexico, Missouri, at age 88.<42> 15 iii.Bowman Dewease Sipple; born 27 Feb 1860 in Douglas County, Illinois;<43> died 30 Oct 1940 in Thomasville, Georgia, at age 80.<44> 16 iv.Charles Wesley Sipple; born 29 Jun 1863 in Douglas County, Illinois;<45> died 5 Jul 1941 at age 78.<46> 17 v.Herman Grant Sipple; born 6 Oct 1865 in Douglas County, Illinois;<47>,<48> died 27 Feb 1950 at age 84.<49> 18 vi.Marvin Bright Sipple; born 19 Dec 1867 in Douglas County, Illinois;<50> died 9 Oct 1945 at age 77.<51> Generation Two 7. Gilby Kelly2 Sipple (William1); born 12 Mar 1844 in Grant County, Kentucky;<52>,<53> married Naomy A. Pribble 18 Nov 1867 in Douglas County, Illinois;<54> married Mollie Brady, daughter of Henry Brady and Carrie (--?--), 3 Jan 1871 in Tuscola, Douglas County, Illinois;<55>,<56> died 4 Apr 1924 in Neodesha, Wilson County, Kansas, at age 80.<57> There were no children of Gilby Kelly2 Sipple and Naomy A. Pribble. Children of Gilby Kelly2 Sipple and Mollie Brady were as follows: 19 i.Ida B.3 Sipple; born after 1871;<58> married W. A. Rankin.<59> 20 ii.Elmer W. Sipple; born after 1871;<60> died circa 1874.<61> 21 iii.Hulbert L. Sipple; born after 1871.<62> 22 iv.Clarence E. Sipple; born after 1871.<63> 10. Lewis Harper2 Sipple (William1); born 17 Nov 1853 in Grant County, Kentucky;<64>,<65>,<66>,<67> married Anna Railey Mildred, daughter of Daniel Hustler Mildred and Tabitha Thomas Barnes, 29 Oct 1879 in Audrain County, Missouri;<68>,<69> died 1 Jul 1931 in Fayette, Howard County, Missouri, at age 77.<70>,<71> His Ancestral File Number is 4MDN-KC.<72> He appeared on the census of 1 Jan 1920 in Fayette City, Howard County, Missouri.<73> Children of Lewis Harper2 Sipple and Anna Railey Mildred were as follows: 23 i.Leslie Blakey3 Sipple; born 19 Sep 1880 in Stevens Store, Calloway County, Missouri;<74> married Jessie Maxwell 27 Apr 1904 in Rush Hill, Audrain County, Missouri; died 14 Sep 1955 at age 74. His Ancestral File Number is 4MDN-ZF.<75> 24 ii.Olive May Sipple; born 19 Jun 1883 in Albany, Gentry County, Missouri;<76>,<77> married Everett Ham 30 Dec 1914; died 1 Aug 1949 at age 66. Her Ancestral File Number is 4MDP-0K.<78> 25 iii.Thomas Daniel Sipple; born 11 Mar 1886 in Rush Hill, Audrain County, Missouri;<79>,<80> married Gladys Weil, daughter of Joseph Joel Weil and Charlotte Lenore Moody, Nov 1912; died 29 Jan 1975 in Kansas City, Missouri, at age 88.<81> His Ancestral File Number is 4MDP-1Q. 26 iv.Martha Eva Sipple; born 12 Sep 1888;<82> married Orville Monroe Manion, son of Lionell Biggerstaff Manion and Mary Elizabeth Settle, 21 Aug 1912 in Fayette, Howard County, Missouri;<83> died 12 Sep 1983 in Idaho Falls, Idaho, at age 95.<84> Her Ancestral File Number is 4MDN-DH.<85> 27 v.Zella Blanche Sipple; born 22 Jan 1893 in Rush Hill, Audrain County, Missouri;<86>,<87>,<88>,<89> married Warren Luther Duffie, son of Abe Gardner Duffie and Ella Margaret Hayward, 7 Jun 1917;<90>,<91> died 7 Dec 1987 in Jefferson City, Missouri, at age 94.<92> Her Ancestral File Number is 4MDP-2W.<93> 28 vi.Zola Ruth Sipple; born 22 Jan 1893 in Rush Hill, Audrain County, Missouri;<94>,<95>,<96> died 20 Dec 1969 in Mound City, Missouri, at age 76.<97> Her Ancestral File Number is 4MDP-33.<98> **ENDNOTES** <1>:Larry G. Manion, compiler, "Ancestral File Submission AF83-046501"; William Harrison SIPPLE (AFN: CRF5-9J), Ancestral File Family History Library, Salt Lake City, Utah. Hereinafter cited as "AFN Submission AF83-046501". <2>:Doris Duffie Finley, "Duffie Ancestral Chart", 10 Nov 1977 (St. Joseph, MO). Hereinafter cited as "Duffie Ancestral Chart". <3>:Family History Library, Temple Records for Deceased Individuals: Recorder's Certificate: 00034-0281; Record File # 1RP7B7W; 1985611, Family History Library, Salt Lake City, Utah. Hereinafter cited as FHL Microfilm 1985611. <4>:Dorothy L. Nichols, World Family Tree Vol. 10, Tree 290., CD-ROM (Broderbund Software, Inc., Release date: May 6, 1997), Garrett Sipple Descendants. Hereinafter cited as WTF Vol. 10, Tree 290. <5>:Kansas and Kansans: Volume 4, online [link verified on 26 Jul 1999] http://skyways.lib.ks.us/genweb/archives/1918ks/bios/sipplegk.html. Hereinafter cited as Kansas and Kansans: Volume 4. <6>:Doris Duffie Finley, "Duffie Ancestral Chart". <7>:Letter from Doris E. Duffie (Springfield, MO) to Warren L. Duffie, 13 Jan 1999; (77 Spring Lake Drive, Stafford, Virginia). <8>:International Genealogical Index Source 216837; (Salt Lake City, UT: Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints, Copyright 1980, 1997). Hereinafter cited as IGI Source 216837. <9>:Doris Duffie Finley, "Duffie Ancestral Chart". <10>:Garrett Sipple Descendants, WTF Vol. 10, Tree 290. <11>:Larry G. Manion, "AFN Submission AF83-046501," Ancestral File, William Harrison SIPPLE (AFN: CRF5-9J). <12>:Kansas and Kansans: Volume 4. <13>:Family History Library, FHL Microfilm 1985611: Recorder's Certificate: 00034-0281; Record File # 1RP705R;. <14>:Kansas and Kansans: Volume 4. <15>:Letter, Doris E. Duffie to Warren L. Duffie, 13 Jan 1999. <16>:Ibid. <17>:Family History Library, FHL Microfilm 1985611: Recorder's Certificate: 00034-0281; Record File # 1RP77K74;. <18>:Kansas and Kansans: Volume 4. <19>:Ibid. <20>:Letter, Doris E. Duffie to Warren L. Duffie, 13 Jan 1999. <21>:Family History Library, FHL Microfilm 1985611: Recorder's Certificate: 00034-0281; Record File # 1RP6WBB;. <22>:Kansas and Kansans: Volume 4. <23>:Letter, Doris E. Duffie to Warren L. Duffie, 13 Jan 1999. <24>:Family History Library, FHL Microfilm 1985611: Recorder's Certificate: 00034-0281; Record File # 1RP6WCJ;. <25>:Letter, Doris E. Duffie to Warren L. Duffie, 13 Jan 1999. <26>:Family History Library, FHL Microfilm 1985611: Recorder's Certificate: 00034-0281; Record File # 1RP7B9B;. <27>:Letter, Doris E. Duffie to Warren L. Duffie, 13 Jan 1999. <28>:Family History Library, FHL Microfilm 1985611: Recorder's Certificate: 00034-0281; Record File # 1RP6WFX;. <29>:Letter, Doris E. Duffie to Warren L. Duffie, 13 Jan 1999. <30>:Family History Library, FHL Microfilm 1985611: Recorder's Certificate: 00034-0281; Record File # 1RP704K;. <31>:Kansas and Kansans: Volume 4. <32>:Letter, Doris E. Duffie to Warren L. Duffie, 13 Jan 1999. <33>:Gladys Carlena McAllister, compiler, "Ancestral File Submission AF95-101954"; Child SIPPLE (AFN: 19TQ-W5X), Ancestral File Family History Library, Salt Lake City, Utah. Hereinafter cited as "AFN Submission AF95-101954". <34>:International Genealogical Index Microfilm 1985713; (Salt Lake City, UT: Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints, Copyright 1980, 1997). Hereinafter cited as IGI Microfilm 1985713. <35>:Letter, Doris E. Duffie to Warren L. Duffie, 13 Jan 1999. <36>:Gladys Carlena McAllister, "AFN Submission AF95-101954," Ancestral File, Child SIPPLE (AFN: 19TQ-W5X). <37>:Family History Library, FHL Microfilm 1985611: Recorder's Certificate: 00034-0281; Record File # 1RP7JSG;. <38>:Letter, Doris E. Duffie to Warren L. Duffie, 13 Jan 1999. <39>:Family History Library, FHL Microfilm 1985611: Recorder's Certificate: 00034-0281; Record File # 1RP7_6P;. <40>:Letter, Doris E. Duffie to Warren L. Duffie, 13 Jan 1999. <41>:Family History Library, FHL Microfilm 1985611: Recorder's Certificate: 00034-0281; Record File # 1RP7JTM;. <42>:Letter, Doris E. Duffie to Warren L. Duffie, 13 Jan 1999. <43>:Family History Library, FHL Microfilm 1985611: Recorder's Certificate: 00034-0281; Record File # 1RP7JVV;. <44>:Letter, Doris E. Duffie to Warren L. Duffie, 13 Jan 1999. <45>:Family History Library, FHL Microfilm 1985611: Recorder's Certificate: 00034-0281; Record File # 1RP7JW3;. <46>:Letter, Doris E. Duffie to Warren L. Duffie, 13 Jan 1999. <47>:International Genealogical Index Microfilm 1985255; (Salt Lake City, UT: Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints, Copyright 1980, 1997). Hereinafter cited as IGI Microfilm 1985255. <48>:Family History Library, FHL Microfilm 1985611: Recorder's Certificate: 00034-0281; Record File # 1RP7JX9;. <49>:Letter, Doris E. Duffie to Warren L. Duffie, 13 Jan 1999. <50>:Family History Library, FHL Microfilm 1985611: Recorder's Certificate: 00034-0281; Record File # 1RP7JZN;. <51>:Letter, Doris E. Duffie to Warren L. Duffie, 13 Jan 1999. <52>:Family History Library, FHL Microfilm 1985611: Recorder's Certificate: 00034-0281; Record File # 1RP6WDQ;. <53>:Kansas and Kansans: Volume 4. <54>:International Genealogical Index Source 1295955; (Salt Lake City, UT: Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints, Copyright 1980, 1997). Hereinafter cited as IGI Source 1295955. <55>:Ibid. <56>:Kansas and Kansans: Volume 4. <57>:Letter, Doris E. Duffie to Warren L. Duffie, 13 Jan 1999. <58>:Kansas and Kansans: Volume 4. <59>:Ibid. <60>:Ibid. <61>:Ibid. <62>:Ibid. <63>:Ibid. <64>:Larry G. Manion, "AFN Submission AF83-046501," Ancestral File, Lewis Harper SIPPLE (AFN: 4MDN-KC). <65>:Doris Duffie Finley, "Duffie Ancestral Chart". <66>:Family History Library, FHL Microfilm 1985611: Recorder's Certificate: 00034-0281; Record File # 1RP6W94;. <67>:Louis H. Sipple household, 1 January 1920 U.S. census, Howard County, Missiouri, population schedule, Fayette City, enumeration district (ED) 100, supervisor's district (SD) 7, sheet 5A, farm 89, family 104; National Archives micropublication T625, roll 917listed age is 66 years. <68>:Doris Duffie Finley, "Duffie Ancestral Chart". <69>:Family History Library, FHL Microfilm 1985611: Recorder's Certificate: 00034-0281; Record File # 1RP91JN;. <70>:Doris Duffie Finley, "Duffie Ancestral Chart". <71>:Letter, Doris E. Duffie to Warren L. Duffie, 13 Jan 1999. <72>:Larry G. Manion, "AFN Submission AF83-046501," Ancestral File, Lewis Harper SIPPLE (AFN: 4MDN-KC). <73>:1 January 1920 U.S. census, Howard County, Missiouri, population schedule, Fayette City, ED 100, SD 7, sheet 5A, farm 89, family 104. <74>:Larry G. Manion, "AFN Submission AF83-046501," Ancestral File, Leslie Blakey SIPPLE (AFN: 4MDN-ZF). <75>:Ibid. <76>:Ibid., Olive Mae SIPPLE (AFN: 4MDP-0K). <77>:Family History Library, FHL Microfilm 1985611: Recorder's Certificate: 00034-0281; Record File # 1RP7BC0;. <78>:Larry G. Manion, "AFN Submission AF83-046501," Ancestral File, Olive Mae SIPPLE (AFN: 4MDP-0K). <79>:Family History Library, FHL Microfilm 1985611: Recorder's Certificate: 00034-0281; Record File # 1RP6W8W;. <80>:Social Security Death Index, Vol. 2, Ed. 5., CD-ROM (n.p.: Broderbund Software, Inc., Copyright 1997). Hereinafter cited as Social Security Death Index, Vol. 2. <81>:Ibid. <82>:Larry G. Manion, "AFN Submission AF83-046501," Ancestral File, Martha Eva SIPPLE (AFN: 4MDN-DH). <83>:Family History Library, International Genealogical Index Source 1395979 (Salt Lake City, UT: Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints, Copyright 1980, 1997). Hereinafter cited as IGI Source 1395979. <84>:Letter, Doris E. Duffie to Warren L. Duffie, 13 Jan 1999. <85>:Larry G. Manion, "AFN Submission AF83-046501," Ancestral File, Martha Eva SIPPLE (AFN: 4MDN-DH). <86>:Ibid., Zella Blanche SIPPLE (AFN: 4MDP-2W). <87>:Doris Duffie Finley, "Duffie Ancestral Chart". <88>:Warren Luther Duffie household, 6 January 1920 U.S. census, Adair County, Missouri, population schedule, Kirksville, enumeration district (ED) 8, supervisor's district (SD) 1, sheet 6A, dwelling 118, family 130; National Archives micropublication T625, roll 902listed age is 26 years. <89>:Private-birth certificate living person. <90>:Doris Duffie Finley, "Duffie Ancestral Chart". <91>:Private-birth certificate living person. <92>:Letter, Doris E. Duffie to Warren L. Duffie, 13 Jan 1999. <93>:Larry G. Manion, "AFN Submission AF83-046501," Ancestral File, Zella Blanche SIPPLE (AFN: 4MDP-2W). <94>:Ibid., Zola Ruth SIPPLE (AFN: 4MDP-33). <95>:Family History Library, FHL Microfilm 1985611: Recorder's Certificate: 00034-0281; Record File # 1RP7BBJ;. <96>:1 January 1920 U.S. census, Howard County, Missiouri, population schedule, Fayette City, ED 100, SD 7, sheet 5A, farm 89, family 104, listed age is 26 years. <97>:Social Security Death Index, Vol. 2. <98>:Larry G. Manion, "AFN Submission AF83-046501," Ancestral File, Zola Ruth SIPPLE (AFN: 4MDP-33).

Well, Joy...I have a photocopy of the census and I went over to Kinkos and blew it up a million percent so I could really read it, the reason being that bad handwriting gave me fits. I was looking for my GGrandfather and could not find him anywhere. I have the family bible and it says that his name was McKendry Sipple and he was born in Harrison Co. Practically went blind from looking and zip, nada, nothing. So, I finally hired this really nice researcher. She had some trouble, but finally found him in the 1850 and 1860 census just like I knew he was supposed to be. Except he was listed as Simeon Mc and the c was so little and up high near the top of the M that it looked like Simeon M. In the three birth records we could find, his mother's name looked like Mary McGuire and several people accepted this and posted to LDS files. My professional said, "Nope. It's McGuin." I blew it up and she was right, sure enough. Also, folks. Earlier today I posted a marriage bond for Ely L. Clark and it was correct except that the bride was Mary Elizabeth Draper. Sorry... Judie in Oregon where it is 78 and wonderful...

Joy, Thank you much mam' am most grateful!!!! About that census index...Do you need a county? I have a missing person(s) Alfred Brewer, wife Catherine, children Mary, Paulina/Pauline. John, Rice B, Rhoda/Roda A, Alfred D. and Nancy(may have been Catherine) They were in Bracken Co in the late 1840's and in 1860 but have dropped off the planet so to speak in 1850's. Would love to find them!!! Teresa

Judy, Looks like it!!! James Clark was my ggg grandfather, married to Sarah Ashcraft. I love this list!!!!!!! I see Eleanor Ashcraft as a heir to gggg granddaddy Clark, must have been my James sister. Bonnie is looking for Eleanor, you don't by any chance know how thier connected to the Howe's do you? Teresa

Judie, I am glad you had someone who was able to read it, some of it was very hard to read.Some page are very easy,but the census taker on the page with James Clark wrote very sloppy.I love actually being able to see the census on my computer without ever having to leave the house.It may be a little sloppy,but there is just something about looking at the actual image that is great.I sent you the copies before you said you already had it.I would like to know if you got it,so I can tell if I sent it right. I am very happy with the way the list is going right now and you are a big part of the traffic on here, I sure appreciate all of your posts,keep up the good work. Joy ----- Original Message ----- From: Judie French <JWFrench@cpros.com> To: <KYGRANT-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, July 26, 1999 4:08 PM Subject: Re: [KYGRANT-L] 1850 Kentucky Census look-up > Joy - I have a copy of the Clark census. My researcher sent it to me and > thank goodness she could read the writing, I sure have trouble with all > those squiggles... > > Judie, happy in Oregon > > > ==== KYGRANT Mailing List ==== > Add to your Genealogy the fun, easy way, Have Grand Children! > Genealogy - a search for the greatest treasures - our ancestors. >

Joy - I have a copy of the Clark census. My researcher sent it to me and thank goodness she could read the writing, I sure have trouble with all those squiggles... Judie, happy in Oregon

I forgot to mention on the offer to do look-ups that even though gennealogy.com only gives images for 1850(and only on some states,however Kentucky is one of them),it does list census indexes for all states. If you know of a probable year and state your ancestor lived in,let me know and I can send you the census roll # and page #.Please try to be as specfic as you can and give as much information as you know. I will be very happy to do the look-up. Talk to you later. Joy Schmidt Honeycutt Owner Rankin Surname Mail list Owner Eaglin Surname Mail List Owner Jump Surname mail List Owner Lacey Surname Mail List Owner Gallatin County KY. mail list Owner Grant Co. KY. Mail List The Schmidt Honeycutt Family Homepage http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Lane/6681/index.html

Judie, I just started using it but , so far I really like it.I doesn't have all of the census images uploaded yet,but it does have IN,KY,MASS,NC,PN,RI, and VA. images for 1850. It also has genealogy books and census indexes for all states from 1790-1880. I have found a few branches of my family on it and it great to see the actual images online. I will send you a copy of the image with the Clark name on it if you like.I can post it to the list however,I wish I could but.. it is a no no. You do have to pay to use it , $99.00 a year or$ 9.95 a month. I will send you the copy and you can see if you like it. Joy ----- Original Message ----- From: Judie French <JWFrench@cpros.com> To: <KYGRANT-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, July 26, 1999 3:13 PM Subject: Re: [KYGRANT-L] 1850 Kentucky Census look-up > Joy - please tell me about genealogy.com. Thanks. > > Judie in beautiful Oregon > > > ==== KYGRANT Mailing List ==== > Genealogists do it generation after generation. > Genealogists should also consider the handsome neighbor... >

Judie, I gave her the same info you already have. Joy ----- Original Message ----- From: Judie French <JWFrench@cpros.com> To: <KYGRANT-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, July 26, 1999 3:10 PM Subject: Re: [KYGRANT-L] 1850 Kentucky Census look-up > Joy - post to the list, please. I could use that info, too. > > > ==== KYGRANT Mailing List ==== > FLOOR: (n) The place for storing your priceless genealogy records. > Genealogy is my hobby. I collect ancestors & descendants. >

Teresa, I am not sure I sent you the right copy so, I will do it this way. The Grant County 1850 census roll 201,page 344 has this family HH# may be 766 & 767 ( it is very hard to read). James Clark age 36 (may be 34) M farmer? born KY. Sarah 28 F KY William(hard to read) 10 M KY Mary E. 8 F KY James I(?) 11 M KY Louisa I (?) 4 F KY Sarah 3 F KY Lucinda E. 1 F KY I hope this is of some help and it is the right family, Joy

Joy - please tell me about genealogy.com. Thanks. Judie in beautiful Oregon

Joy - post to the list, please. I could use that info, too.

Teresa - I could reach out and hug you. I didn't know that anybody else was working on this line. <G> I have a copy of the part of the 1850 census that you need and it says: James Clark, 36, farmer, KY, 1540 acres Sarah, 28, KY William M, 11, KY Mary E., 8, KY Samuel, 6, KY Louisa I., 4, KY Sarah, 3, KY Lucinda E. 1, KY Henry Ackerman, 18, KY,Laborer It also says, surprise, that living next door was: Eli Clark, 38, farmer, KY, 1200 acres Mary E., 34, KY Martha, 12, KY Samuel M., 7, KY William T., 5, KY Sarah F., 4, KY *my GGandma* Allen ,1, KY John, 14, KY I also have a copy of the will of the senior James Clark dated 28 February 1843 (probate May, 1844). It lists his children as Eleanor Ashcraft Ely Clark James Clark Louisa Buskirk and Wm. Clark's children, my grandchildren, John Riffle Clark and Elizabeth Jane Clark. I also have the marriage bond for Ely Clark and Sara Frances Sipple which states that they were married in the home of James Clark (probably the elder) and that one of the ministers was James Clark (not clear which). So...are we cousins? What do you have? hat do you have?=20

Teresa , I found a possible match, so I am goin to forward it to you privately. Hope it works. Joy ----- Original Message ----- From: Teresa Carter <tacarter@surfsouth.com> To: <KYGRANT-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, July 26, 1999 2:04 PM Subject: Re: [KYGRANT-L] 1850 Kentucky Census look-up > Joy, > Thank's for your offer, I'm looking for James Clark, will have an > 8 yr. daughter names Mary E. in his household. > Thank's again, am most grateful for your time and help. > > Teresa > > > ==== KYGRANT Mailing List ==== > To post to this list > KYGRANT-L@rootsweb.com >

Joy, Thank's for your offer, I'm looking for James Clark, will have an 8 yr. daughter names Mary E. in his household. Thank's again, am most grateful for your time and help. Teresa