I have one family member who was listed with his father in the 1870 in one county and again with his own family in another county a month later. He was helping with harvest the first time probably Connie ---------- > Hi all, > My question is, if a family were visiting relatives when the > census man came around would they be listed on that county's census or > just left off? I can understand being unaccounted for if they were in > transit, but wouldn't someone in thier home county have told the taker > that they lived there? Or was it common to be over looked altogether? > I know...I'm grasping at straws here,but these folks are making me > crazy!!!!!!!!!! lol > > Teresa > > > ==== KYGRANT Mailing List ==== > To post to this list > KYGRANT-L@rootsweb.com

Pat Abstracted County Court Records by Janet Pease Volume III page 93 Naturalization: John Flynn appeared in court and declared that he came to the United States from Ireland in 1855 and was at that time a minor under the age of 21 years. He has resided in the United States for 3 years, before he became 21 years old. He is thus declared to be a citizen of the United States. June 1860 H: 406 Page 94 Guardianship William Kaim? a minor over the age of 14 years chose Michael Flynn as his huardain. No security is named. 13 August 1860. H: 413 Settlement: Michael Flynn, guardian of the wm Kayne -guardian states that his ward has been dead for 4 years last February 16 May 1867 page 218 VolumeVIII Page 82 Grant Co KY births Flinn, M.J. born 5 July 1878 Female white daughter of J.L. Flinn and Maddonie? both born Kenton County Page 105 Farley, child born 16 November 1898 at Dry Ridge. Female white alive daughter of James Farley and Miss Flynn of Dry Ridge Father born Bowling Green, KY mother born Grant Co. Cert # 10. Page 135 Farley, child born 11 November 1900 at Dry Ridge KY male, white alive. Son of James Farley and Miss Flynn of Dry Ridge KY Father born Dry Ridge: mother born Pendleton KY cert #7 (I know this does not correspond with previous) Vol VI Grant Co KY Birth Records Reported in 1880 census Page 130 Flinn, Ira white male 4/12 February John E, (38) and Nancy A. (40) Flinn, born Ireland and Kentucky,. Page 143a Hope this helps Sandy ----- Original Message ----- From: Pat Flynn <plflynn@uswest.net> To: <KYGRANT-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, July 26, 1999 8:10 AM Subject: [KYGRANT-L] Look ups > Dear "Look Up Ladies": > > I too would like to ask you a favor. Judging by the internet > traffic, I can tell you have been keeping very busy helping > others. If you don't have time or simply need a break I > understand completely. If you are willing to tackle more > work I would very much appreciate your help. I am seeking > information on the parents, siblings, and children of John > T. Flynn and Bridget Agnes Flynn (maiden name "Madden".) > John T. Flynn was born 5/10/1837 In Ireland. He died June > 24, 1918. Bridget Agnes (Madden) Flynn was born 2/29/1848 in > Ireland. She died 3/10/1924. They are both buried in the > cemetery at Frankfort, KY. Their children were: > > * John (Died as an infant) > * Dora (Died as an infant) > * George 1874-1953 > * Isabelle > * Katie > * Ed > * James 1870-1923 > * Tom 1872-1926 > * Walter > * Mary Ellen 1876-1944 > * Elias Otis 1883-1940 > * Florence 1887-1918 > * Francis Leo 1890-1919 > > I believe at various times in their lives they lived in > Grant county, Scott County and Boone county. > > > > ==== KYGRANT Mailing List ==== > Genealogists do it for the memories! > Genealogists never lose their jobs, they just go to another branch!

I have been out of town for past two days so be patient in your requests, I promise I am not ignoring you guys. There is no order to my response other that as it is human nature to answer the easiest ones first. To Barry, There are several John Johnson of different generations: Abstract County Records by Janet Pease Voume V Grant Co Kentucky Marriages pg 9 Johnson, John and Rosanna Lawrence Bond Date: 11 December 1845 Bondsman Sam'l R.Lawrence The groom is of lawful age Consent of the father of the bride was personally given. Bond Book: 1838-1847 page 159 They were married Dcember 18, 1845 This is possibly his father in Harrison County Harrison County KY Probate Abstracts 1815-1832 Vol I Page 137 Will of John Johnson being weak in body wife: Lydia- the farm that I now live on mentions that he needs to get a deed for that farm (above mentioned) from Fielding B. McDuffee. son: John- the farm he now lives on son: Hugh the farm he now lives on 5 daughters: margaret Jinkins, Mary Miller, Betsy Parman, Jane Johnson and Lucinda Casey my mills are to be sold. son: William Daughter Nancy Key- money which Daved Ogles owes me for my mill in the year in 1830 daughter Sefrona who is now an infant- when she becomes 21 executors: friends David Snodgrass and Benjamine Snodgrass witnessess: Lawson Myers, James Dunlap written 20 October 1827; probated February 1828 Volume B page 352 Harrison County KY minute Book H 1835-1839 Vol IV page 49 Apprenticeship: John Johnson an infant orpahn (no parents are given) is bound to Josiah Whitteeker, farmer until he becomes 21 yrs old. September 1837. H: 183 Volume III Grant Co Order Book Guardianship B.F.Day appointed guardian to John HIner Johnson infant orphans of Sarah Jane Johnson, dec's he being under the age of 14 yrs Security: Gero. Norton March 1855 C: 604 Page 50 Court Order: It is ordered that the lands of Pendleton Collier are to be divided among: to the widow Helena Collier; to the heirs John H. Johnson, Robert Collier, Wm T. Collier and Emeline Collier. May 1855 C;621 ----- Original Message ----- From: <BLJRADM@aol.com> To: <burbridg@sr66.com> Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 1999 8:10 AM Subject: Request for Assistance--JOHNSON surname > Sandy, > > I would very much appreciate your assistance in locating any information > about John Johnson, who appears in the 1830 through 1860 U.S. census for > Grant County. (I can find no mention of him after 1860, although my search > of Owen County records is incomplete.) Ben Benson very kindly searched old > Grant County tax records and found John Johnson paid taxes in Grant County in > the 1830s and 1840s. > > I am also interested in any information about Jacob Johnson, who is the only > Johnson who appears in the 1820 census. Thank you for considering my request. > > Barry L. Johnson > Atlanta

Bonnie, Thanks so much for looking. Va

Hi all, My cousin emailed me a marrige bond thingy from the Rootsweb Archive, it's for Henry Ashcraft and Nancy King. Thought someone else might like to have it, but wanted to check before I forward it on to the list. Teresa

Judie and Bonnie, Did I miss something? Who are they? Teresa

Debby and Bonnie: I haven't figured it out yet either. It is most distressing that it doesn't have the Williamstown Cemetery listed. Ben BonSnow@aol.com wrote: > > Hi Debby, > > No, I didn't know that you can get a print-out of the cemetery! Would be > wonderful if true! But, I kind of doubt it. If you click on the little > cross it will tell you where the cemetery is located. Dr. Ben Benson is the > one to ask. He posts to this list so hopefully he will see your query and > let us know. > > Take care, > Bonnie > > ==== KYGRANT Mailing List ==== > FLOOR: (n) The place for storing your priceless genealogy records. > Genealogy is my hobby. I collect ancestors & descendants.

Oh, Bonnie - those are my guys. Teresa will like this,too. I hope everybody is having a good day! Judie in Oregon where the heat wave has finally arrived

Hi Judie, Who are your guys?? Bonnie

Sandra, Jez!!! I'm so sorry...brain dead this morning!!! My ggg gf was George Turner m/ Elizabeth ?? After his death in 1815 Culpeper Co she moved to Harrison Co where she died in 1819, George's will was probated for a second time(1st. in Culpeper Co) in Harrison Co Ky. Teresa

Sandra, Have a major favor to ask...I'm looking for a few Turner's who were married or died in Harrison Co Ky, hoping to get a lead on my ggg gf. These are the ones I know for certian were there, Ezekiel Turner m/ Elizabeth King 1805 Rachel (Turner) Bryant d/ 1852 (sp. Jesse Bryant) Thorton Turner d/ 1859 (sp. Elizabeth Van Deren) a possible: William Turner m/ Rachel King, Rachel d/o of Joshua T. King and Hannah Canady/Canaday, Joshua d/ 1832 died in Harrison Co. Will be forever grateful for any info you find! Teresa

Grant County Deaths: February 2, 1852 - J. E. Groves, age 65; male; married; occupation, farmer; parents, Samuel & Mary Groves; residence, Grant Co.; place of birth, Prince William Co., VA; place of death, Grant Co. Hope this helps someone! Bonnie

sorry i haven't been answering my mai but my motem had been hit by lightening , i am currently usind a dinosaur (so slow) i'll have a new one in about a week thank you ... i have saved most of my mail....

Hi Janice, This you're lucky day!!! I found the death record for Martha Turner Ashcraft!!! DEATHS, 1852 January 7, 1852 - Martha Ashcraft, age 21; married; parents, James & Sarah Turner; residence, Grant Co.; place of birth, Campbell Co., Ky.; place of death, Eagle Creek, Grant Co. Janice, it doesn't say what the cause of death was, but I feel it is safe to assume that it was complications of child birth. Now you know where she was born and you know the Sarah on the census was her mother! Since she was born in Campbell Co., I would start looking there. Good luck to you! Bonnie

Hi Debby, No, I didn't know that you can get a print-out of the cemetery! Would be wonderful if true! But, I kind of doubt it. If you click on the little cross it will tell you where the cemetery is located. Dr. Ben Benson is the one to ask. He posts to this list so hopefully he will see your query and let us know. Take care, Bonnie

Hi Judie, The only ones I remember are Elenore Clark and her husband, William Montjoy Ashcraft. I know there are others, I'll ask my daughter for you. May take a couple of days, she is always on the go! Take care, Bonnie

Sandra, I wrote re the Robert Ashcraft being married to Martha Turner and Catherine a year later. It was Robert W. Ashcraft and the question was regarding a recorded date for Martha Turner's death or where one could find such. Rosetta Ashcraft was there only living child, my g-grandmother, and on the 1860 Grant Co census she is living w/her father and his 2nd wife, Catherine, plus their four children. Rosetta Ashcraft married R. N. Morehead in 1868. Their children were Edgar, Oden and Ida (my grandmother). On the 1870 census Richard Morehead, Rosetta, Edgar and a Sarah Turner, age 74, are shown. Sarah was possibly her grandmother. By the 1880 census, the children are living w/relatives as both parents died. Finally, my question - how can I find out what happened to Richard N. Morehead and Rosetta Ashcraft Morehead and would their children be recorded in the books of county records since they were orphaned? I have corresponded w/Bonnie Snow re this. Thanks, Janice Oliver -----Original Message----- From: Sandra Burbridge <burbridg@sr66.com> To: KYGRANT-L@rootsweb.com <KYGRANT-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Wednesday, July 28, 1999 1:57 AM Subject: Re: [KYGRANT-L] Re: County Records >Someone wrote inquiring about the two Robert Ascrafts one with Martha >and one worth Cathy/ a year later. Somehow I lost the message. But I >think I know the question. It is possble that Martha and baby died and >Robert remarried very soon . It is also possible that there were two >Robert Ashcrafts in the county. Please note that one has an H. I >personally have no way of knowing just typing the info but it is not >unusal to have two to three people in same county with same name. That >is why we it is important to compare records. In this case my >suggestion would be to look at the 1860 census and see if these two >Robert Ashcrafts are there with these wives and children. >There maybe deaths published somewhere, I don't have them. Remember >the state was not required to keep them until years later. The fact >that we have these is very fortunate. > >Sandy >----- Original Message ----- >From: Sandra Burbridge <burbridg@sr66.com> >To: <KYGRANT-L@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 1999 6:33 PM >Subject: Re: [KYGRANT-L] Re: County Records > > >> >> Ashcraft >> Grant County Abstracts by Janet Pease >> Vol V Grant Co Ky Marriages >> Page 108 >> >> Vice, James M and Elizabeth J. Clark >> Bond Date: 11 Sept 1855 Bonds Wm a. Clark >> Bond Book 1847-1855 >> page 229 >> LDS micorfilm only >> Marriage Date: 2n marriage book 1854-1890 >> James M. Vice was married to Elizabeth J. Clark by Wm. H. s >> Sipple on 19 Sept 1855 >> witnesses: Wm M. Ashcraft, Elanor Ashcraft >> Sutton Register: >> James Vice of Grant Co Ky age not given, single born Grant Co KY >> ES Clark of Grant Co, Ky age not given, single born Grant Co, ky >> Married 19, Sept 1855 >> >> Parapharsed and brief >> Rev William Ashcraft performed ceremony for Moses McClure and Mary >> Worman May 1854 >> James Ashcraft was the bondsman for Elizabeth Moody her age was >sworn >> to by James Ashcraft SR. she married Richard M. George Dec 1851 >> >> Grant Co KY Marriages page 28 >> Ashcraft, Samuel H. and Caroline A. Hutchinson >> Bond Date; 27 Dec 1847 Bondsman: John Hutchinson >> the groom made oath that from from all information which he has from >> his parents, he believes he is over 21 yrs of age. >> The father of the lady was personally present and consented >> Bond Book 1847-1855 pg 14 Marraige Date: Samuel H. Ashcraft married >> Caroline Hutchinson on 30 Dec 1847 >> >> Page 21 >> Clark, william and Susannah Jane Ashcraft. >> Bond Date: 24 March 1847 Bondsman Wm. M. Ashcraft >> the grooom made oath that he is of lawful age. >> The consent of the father of the lady was personally given. >> Bond Book: 1838-1847 page 190 >> Marriage Date 24 March 1847 >> >> Page 102 >> Ashcraft, William H. and Elizabeth Morris >> Bond Date: 28 March 1855 Bondsman: thomas Morris >> Bond Book 1847-1855 pg220 >> Marriage Date: 2nd marriage book 1854-1890 >> William H. Ashcraft was married to Elizabeth Morris on 29 March 1855 >> by DA Clark >> Sutton Rdgister: william Ashcraft of Grant co KY aged 20 yrs single >> born Grant Co KY >> Elizabeth Morris of Grant Co KY aged 21 yrs single bor Gallatin Co >KY >> Married 29 March 1855 >> >> Ashcraft, William Jediah and Amanda Billiter >> Bond Date: 13 January 1851 Bondsman: Tully Sewards. >> Bond Book: 1847-1855 page 95 >> Marriage Date: Wm J. Ashcraft married Amanda Belleter on 13 January >> 1852 >> >> Page7 >> Harrison Co KY Order Book A August 1794-1800 >> In ejectment: John Den on demise of John Hunt vs Richard Fen. >> Attorney: Richard Henderson >> affadait of william Hinkson who state that Jacob Ashcraft tenant in >> possession of the premises, has been served with a copy of the >> plantiff's declaration >> May 1795 >> A: 16 >> >> Volume VI Grant Co Kentucky Birth Records >> Page 47 >> Ashcraft, Child born 16 May 1856 at the residence of the parents. >> Female, white, alive. Daughter of Jed and Amanda (Seward) Ashcraft >> 1856 births pg 1. >> Page1 >> Ashcraft, child Born 2 Jan 1852 male, white alive >> Son of Robert Ashcraft and Martha Turner both of Grant Co 1852 >> births pg1 >> Page 7 >> Ashcraft, Benjamine Born 20 July 1852 Male white alive >> son of Job Ashcraft and Susan Rodgers of Grant. >> 1852 births page 2 >> >> Page 11 >> Ashcraft, william born 7 August 1852 male white alive >> son of Richard Ashcraft and Mary Jane Ashcraft of Grant Co. 1852 >> births page 3 >> Page 19 >> Ashcraft, child born 11 July 1853 female white alive >> Daughter of Robt H. Ashcraft and Catherine Cook or Grant Co. 1853 >> births pg 2 >> >> Ashcraft, Eugine born 14 October 1853 female white alive >> Daughter of Henry Ashcraft and Sally Hicks of Grant co >> 1853 births pg 2 >> >> Sipple, Lewis Harper Born 17 November 1853 male white alive son of >Wm. >> H, Sipple and Nancy Ashcraft of Grant co. 1853 births pg 2 >> >> page 31 >> Clark, child born 22 Sept 1854 on Broad Ridge.female, white alive >> Daughter of James c. Clark and Sally Ann Ashcraft of Broad Ridge. >1854 >> births pg >> Page 136 >> Ashcraft, Asa boy 18 Dec 1881 Ledger pg 637 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ==== KYGRANT Mailing List ==== >> The Schmidt Honeycutt Family Homepage >> http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Lane/6681 >> includes the Jump and Rankin Family > > >==== KYGRANT Mailing List ==== >To post to this list >KYGRANT-L@rootsweb.com > >

Hi All, I have the cd also. I have not been able to get a layout of a cemetery either. All I have come up with is that you can click on the cemetery name and it will give you location info and some other numbers. If I come across anything, I will post it. Carolyn

For those who want to know: A BONDSMAN is 'a person, sometimes referred to as a surety, who pledges a sum of money as bond for another'. This is the definition in "A TO ZAX, A Comprehensive Dictionary for Genealogists & Historians" by Barbara Jean Evans, published 1995 by Hearthstone Press. As for marriage bondsman, it can be a family member (almost always male) or friend. It is not unlike a bail bondsman. In the case of marriage bondsman, the bondsman 'swears' on potential loss of bond money before the county court that the persons wanting to get married are indeed who they say they are and that they are legally able to be married. If the opposite is the case, the bondsman is to come forth with the bond money. If you have ever seen an original marriage bond, you will see that a sum of money is mentioned. Ben in Ft. Worth, TX

Bonnie - can you say any more about the six Clark graves? Thanks for the tip on the CD - I'm going to town on Friday and I'll stop by Walmart! Judie in Oregon where it is 78 and sunny