Dr. Kasper, You note that Gioe gives her booklet title as "Garrard County Kentucky Records #1, Wills 1796-1833 and Potpourri." The Potpourri must come from other than Garrard Co. relative to the date 1796. Garrard Co. was created on 17 Dec. 1776, but did not have a government until the first county and court organization was completed on 5 Jun. 1797. It naturally took some time for further organization. Gerald Tudor Some Wills written in Madison, Lincoln or Mercer on a date prior to the establishment of the court were probated in Garrard Co. Marriages however remained in the county where bond and/or return was made, thus some marriages of children of James and Elizabeth Baker could be in adjacent. Can you reveal any names that one might search far? Gerald Tudor ----- Original Message ----- From: "E Kaspar" <E-Kaspar@wiu.edu> To: <kygarrar@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2007 2:22 PM Subject: Re: [KYGARRAR] County data > >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "M. A. Farrell" <mafarr28@peoplepc.com> >> To: <kygarrar@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2007 3:24 PM >> Subject: Re: [KYGARRAR] County data >> >> >> >>> Elizabeth, the microfilms are of the original County records - county >>> courts, deeds, wills and probate, marriage bonds, land entries, surveys, >>> patents, etc. These are not called "vital statistics", but you glean >>> the >>> genealogical material by reading them. They are, indeed, real and not >>> farbicated films of the original, hand-written documents!! People have >>> been reading these for many years - a lot of the films I have at my >>> local >>> LDS Family History Center - the same available at the KY Library >>> Archives >>> in Frankfort, and KY university libraries - were filmed back in the >>> 1940s >>> and 50s. >>> >>> I suppose you haven't been researching long enough to have seen these??? >> HUH??? Why would you assume that? >> >>> They are the only "real proof" records, unless you have something before >>> copied by the County Clerks into the record books. >>> > Obviously, one of the first places I searched were the microfilms; I > spent dozens of hours! I also went through all available Bible records, > not only at the History Center, but the Bible records at Transylvania > College in Lexington. I have searched in Garrard Co. as well and the > library of the Filson Society in Louisville. As I pointed out, ALL > Kentucky genealogical librarians with whom I have conferred have said > that they had NEVER been able to find Gioe's sources and they report > having had had many inquiries regarding her booklets. Even the KY. > expert at the library in Salt Lake City told me that she too was stumped. > > Vital Statistics are MY term to refer to Gioe's data,: marriages, > births, wills, etc. Her booklets consist of long lists of names with > dates and events, page after page. I have confirmed from other sources > the truth 90%+ of her items that refer to my family. But in particular, > I am seeking proof of the marriage of a couple whom she names repeatedly > for each of their many children's births, "James and Elizabeth Fuqua > Baker". > > Her booklet title in which I find my ancestors listed is "Garrard County > Kentucky Records #1, Wills 1796-1833 and Potpourri." > > Somewhere she found these data! > > Dr. Elizabeth Kaspar > Retired university professor of Research Methodology and Psychology. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > KYGARRAR-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >
The earliest KY records are in VA since KY was 'Kentucky Co., VA.' -----Original Message----- From: kygarrar-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:kygarrar-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of GT Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2007 4:25 AM To: kygarrar@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [KYGARRAR] County data Dr. Kasper, You note that Gioe gives her booklet title as "Garrard County Kentucky Records #1, Wills 1796-1833 and Potpourri." The Potpourri must come from other than Garrard Co. relative to the date 1796. Garrard Co. was created on 17 Dec. 1776, but did not have a government until the first county and court organization was completed on 5 Jun. 1797. It naturally took some time for further organization. Gerald Tudor Some Wills written in Madison, Lincoln or Mercer on a date prior to the establishment of the court were probated in Garrard Co. Marriages however remained in the county where bond and/or return was made, thus some marriages of children of James and Elizabeth Baker could be in adjacent. Can you reveal any names that one might search far? Gerald Tudor ----- Original Message ----- From: "E Kaspar" <E-Kaspar@wiu.edu> To: <kygarrar@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2007 2:22 PM Subject: Re: [KYGARRAR] County data > >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "M. A. Farrell" <mafarr28@peoplepc.com> >> To: <kygarrar@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2007 3:24 PM >> Subject: Re: [KYGARRAR] County data >> >> >> >>> Elizabeth, the microfilms are of the original County records - county >>> courts, deeds, wills and probate, marriage bonds, land entries, surveys, >>> patents, etc. These are not called "vital statistics", but you glean >>> the >>> genealogical material by reading them. They are, indeed, real and not >>> farbicated films of the original, hand-written documents!! People have >>> been reading these for many years - a lot of the films I have at my >>> local >>> LDS Family History Center - the same available at the KY Library >>> Archives >>> in Frankfort, and KY university libraries - were filmed back in the >>> 1940s >>> and 50s. >>> >>> I suppose you haven't been researching long enough to have seen these??? >> HUH??? Why would you assume that? >> >>> They are the only "real proof" records, unless you have something before >>> copied by the County Clerks into the record books. >>> > Obviously, one of the first places I searched were the microfilms; I > spent dozens of hours! I also went through all available Bible records, > not only at the History Center, but the Bible records at Transylvania > College in Lexington. I have searched in Garrard Co. as well and the > library of the Filson Society in Louisville. As I pointed out, ALL > Kentucky genealogical librarians with whom I have conferred have said > that they had NEVER been able to find Gioe's sources and they report > having had had many inquiries regarding her booklets. Even the KY. > expert at the library in Salt Lake City told me that she too was stumped. > > Vital Statistics are MY term to refer to Gioe's data,: marriages, > births, wills, etc. Her booklets consist of long lists of names with > dates and events, page after page. I have confirmed from other sources > the truth 90%+ of her items that refer to my family. But in particular, > I am seeking proof of the marriage of a couple whom she names repeatedly > for each of their many children's births, "James and Elizabeth Fuqua > Baker". > > Her booklet title in which I find my ancestors listed is "Garrard County > Kentucky Records #1, Wills 1796-1833 and Potpourri." > > Somewhere she found these data! > > Dr. Elizabeth Kaspar > Retired university professor of Research Methodology and Psychology. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > KYGARRAR-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KYGARRAR-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message